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Hi everyone,
New GN,
ITLF41
19250UGKL1
yakjuux
4.01
I've only unlocked it, haven't done anything else.
I was only replying to a text message and in the middle of text, GN froze and the screen went black with a white line across top of screen.
Seemed to occur while the auto-rotate function was trying to rotate screen.
I also noticed the auto rotate on my GN does not work well at all. Sometimes it does, sometimes it will not no matter how long I wait.
Nothing worked, had to pull battery.
Seems fine after replacing battery.
I wouldn't be concerned but for the fact that I was not using 3rd party apps or a different rom. The force 2d option is off.
Is maybe something funky with the GN auto-rotate feature in 4.01?
test4echo said:
Hi everyone,
New GN,
ITLF41
19250UGKL1
yakjuux
4.01
I've only unlocked it, haven't done anything else.
I was only replying to a text message and in the middle of text, GN froze and the screen went black with a white line across top of screen.
Seemed to occur while the auto-rotate function was trying to rotate screen.
I also noticed the auto rotate on my GN does not work well at all. Sometimes it does, sometimes it will not no matter how long I wait.
Nothing worked, had to pull battery.
Seems fine after replacing battery.
I wouldn't be concerned but for the fact that I was not using 3rd party apps or a different rom. The force 2d option is off.
Is maybe something funky with the GN auto-rotate feature in 4.01?
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Yes, versions 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 fix a LOT of little issues with the GN. They really should've released the phone with one of those 2 versions rather than 4.0.1.
I don't think you should be too worried about battery pulls unless they happen more often than you like.
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
sent from my Nexus Prime
Simer03 said:
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
sent from my Nexus Prime
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? when do you pull a battery out of a computer?
... haven't received a reboot since day one.
OJ in Compton said:
Yes, versions 4.0.2 and 4.0.3 fix a LOT of little issues with the GN. They really should've released the phone with one of those 2 versions rather than 4.0.1.
I don't think you should be too worried about battery pulls unless they happen more often than you like.
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Ok great!
This is my first smart phone EVER....lol
Its a tough go catching up with all I've missed.
Thanks!
Simer03 said:
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
sent from my Nexus Prime
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You really shouldn't be forcefully pulling the battery every week, that's terrible advice!
Goddamn it.....that's why I said "reboot" first! Lol!
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Simer03 said:
Just like a computer...rebooting or pulling the battery at least once a week is recommended!
sent from my Nexus Prime
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I'm a Network Admin for a large School Board. I know its strange I know nothing about smart Phones but I do know much about Wireless/Routers/switches and Computers.
If your rebooting computers once a week something is amiss....lol
I have servers and clients that have uptimes of 1 year+ before an update requires me to down a server or re-image a client.
In my case, if what had happened to my NEW GN happened on one of my OES2 Linux servers, Id be scrambling until the issue was found and fixed and i'd be none to happy.
But alas, a server is not a cell phone.
I hope it was a just a freak isolated incident.
You guys...I wasn't saying that u HAD to...if u HAVE to, then there's problems....but if u do it just because, it'll get rid of the little things, like the bug he has
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Simer03 said:
You guys...I wasn't saying that u HAD to...if u HAVE to, then there's problems....but if u do it just because, it'll get rid of the little things, like the bug he has
sent from my Nexus Prime
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LMAO...agreed!
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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Simer03 said:
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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One very simple reason: If you pull the battery in a bad moment, e.g. right when the hardware is writing something to the Flash memory, you might (soft-) brick your phone and lose all the data on it.
Simer03 said:
I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
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Well because,
If I have to keep pulling the battery (which is NOT occurring thankfully so far) then I would say something is wrong and its not just a software bug. I would call it a blue screen of death in computer terms.
That could be anything from a hardware fault (Memory/CPU/IO sub system..etc) That would for me, mean taking it back.
A hard reset may temporarily fix the issue. But it doesn't solve the underlying problems.
I'm hoping the error was a one off. If it never occurs again, then we're good to go.
If it does, its goin back.
Same thing happened to me, the weird thing is it happened right after I completely reset the phone...
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big samm said:
Same thing happened to me, the weird thing is it happened right after I completely reset the phone...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Yea its strange...
In my case the Auto rotate feature seems to be the common theme for funkyness.
Sometimes its quick, less than a second, sometimes it doesn't move at all.....
Then, a hard lock.
I realize that 4.02 and .03 fix some bugs but I have the Canadian ver. and google is not gonna update OTA for my NG.
I'm not ready for the whole, flash to "google's" stock rom yet. I just learned to unlock it...lol. If it locks again i'll try that. If it don't i'll leave well enough alone.
Oh by the way, to the Admins, sorry for not posting in the Q&A section. I though i was in the Q&A, my mistake.
Please by all means move the thread.
zephiK said:
? when do you pull a battery out of a computer?
... haven't received a reboot since day one.
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Actually, I have to replace cmos batteries all the time.
Usually they are good for 4 or 5 years but sometimes not.
Some people don't know what "Hit F1 to continue" means and I get calls all the time.
So yes, its quite common to have to pull a bad battery when dealing with 2,000+ PC's ...
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I work for tmobile, at&t and Verizon! I've dealt with dumb little bugs that people have....pulling the battery is the first thing I tell them to do and 99% of the time, it fixes their bug! So why not just save yourself the time and be one step ahead of the phone!?
sent from my Nexus Prime
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Because I use a otterbox with my Galaxy Nexus and it's not very pleasent to keep taking my phone out of it's hard shell case and putting it back in?
Pulling the battery is always a last resort. If the phone is frozen, that is fine to pull the battery or you can hold power on the phone and it'll turn off by itself (not sure if this is in the GN but it was in Galaxy S1).
@test4echo: That's not the experience of a daily person. Not everyone deals with 2,000+ people on computers.
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@test4echo: That's not the experience of a daily person. Not everyone deals with 2,000+ people on computers.
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You are correct. Its not a common everyday thing for most.
I was just suggesting a legit reason for why anyone would need to pull a computer battery.
On another note, i agree with you that having an otterbox case makes it even more of a pain to have to pull the battery.
I just had another freeze up while trying to get back to the main page using the launcher.
Im getting worried now. I've had this phone for 2 weeks and it was great until today....
I think I'm gonna bring it back to virgin just to be safe before my 30 days is up.
If its just software then the new one will do it as well but at at least I'll know thats what it is and either wait for samsung updates or update manually.
Again....nowhere in my response did I say u HAVE to pull the battery every week....I simply said its best if u do, nobody is gonna force u to! But when u do get a bug...pull that battery, and if it keeps happening, send it for warranty...simple
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allright guys. After reading the whole thread i see this is truely crazy how much people have this probem. Yesterday i got my second one. And with my second one i have the same issues...I am pretty sure it is a software related issue:
OR
The phone's kernel is ****ed up (battery issues, bad voltage on screen)
OR
there is something wrong with the G-sensor:
Go to your screen settings, and on the bottom of the you can calibrate your G-sensor. When you do this, you see both of the green dots go insane like the screen do!
What do you think guys?
The green dots don't go insane on mine, just slightly up and down. I was waiting for something a little more interesting hehehe
twistedh said:
The green dots don't go insane on mine, just slightly up and down. I was waiting for something a little more interesting hehehe
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Why? I'm just trying to make a statement on this problem. And try to solve this. Monday i get my third HTC One X. The first X, suffer from screen flickering, mostly on greyish fields the second one, has it too. Both HT23 devices. Both problems.
Personally i'm studying IT, so i only try to get a possible statement with the knowledge i have, and with the custom ROM flash knowledge i have during very very much flashings with my Galaxy S.
I'm just trying to get a possible solution. Is this software or hardware? I dont' know for sure. Maybe Paul O Brien can say something about this problem. I'm out of thoughts.
We don't know, some phones have it some don't. Nothing indicating any differences between phones that have it and phones that don't.
Difficult to tell at this stage. We need a brave soul to check for loose connections but I bet no one will tear their HOX apart to find out.
Knock on wood my second one has no screen strobing as of yet 1 day old so far.
Keep replacing until you get one that doesn't flicker is the only solution for the time being.
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We don't know, some phones have it some don't. Nothing indicating any differences between phones that have it and phones that don't.
Difficult to tell at this stage. We need a brave soul to check for loose connections but I bet no one will tear their HOX apart to find out.
Knock on wood my second one has no screen strobing as of yet 1 day old so far.
Keep replacing until you get one that doesn't flicker is the only solution for the time being.
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What we need is HTC to pull their finger out of their arse, and rip one apart that was sent back doa, and then tell us what it is, tbh they probably are doing this, but need more samples of the problem to be 100% sure of it
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I have been searching forums the past few weeks or so for a fix or a workaround for this. One workaround exists but it does so by disabling the suspect menu button. There's lots of evidence that this is a hardware issue, but there are lingering variables that remain unanswered, the main one being why some phones develop this problem after a period of time (say a year or so) of good behavior. Some people have taken the phone apart and cleaned it and it went away, some suggested the wi-fi (really?). Try those things first if you'd like, but they didn't work for me. This is the result of my experimenting and some observations i made. Because of the relative ease of getting a used E4GT on ebay/craigslist (I scored one in very nice condition from ebay for 50) some people don't really have the option of walking into a store and getting their phones swapped and like me probably were getting annoyed at getting the menu popping up in low signal areas and don't want to resort to workarounds.
If your phone is within warranty, don't bother trying these suggestions. Easiest to get it swapped out. (unless you have already done that multiple times) :laugh:
OPTION 1:
Here is a hack that sounds like a solid fix, it makes a lot of sense though, you are essentially using a small magnet strip as a crude RF shield on the flex connector which inhibits RF interference apparently - ingenious if you ask me!!.
Since the fix I offered is firmware based (meaning it still may not work, although I haven't had mines fail yet. YMMV, these phones have their own personalities ) it sounds logical that this one will address the bigger problem, which as jdsingle76 mentioned, is the hardware, so if you're feeling brave I'd do this fix.
This fix requires you take apart your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44639715&postcount=8
(This is for informational purposes, as the first fix pretty much negated this one - although it worked for me, it requires having to go back to a modem that could possibly have worse performance than your current one...)
OPTION 2:
If you want to stay with the stock TW 4.1.2 ROM, this won't help you.
Do this at your own risk! This fix assumes you know how to flash firmware to the phone!
1. Grab the stock ICS rom http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.php?dir=Files/Devices/ here (the Boost/Sprint/Virgin ones)
2. Flash it to your phone using ODIN (This will erase everything, so back up your data!)
3. Now that you are back to ICS, what we are going to do now is flash different modem firmware. On rwilco's website, go to your respective carrier (come to think of it since it's the same hardware they're all the same?) and in the GB subfolder download the One Click EL26 firmware. Reason is that one user reported that the phantom menu problem incidents started after the EL29 firmware had been rolled out. I do agree that updates to firmware is supposed to 'enhance' the performance of hardware, but for my purposes I'd take stability over a menu button gone crazy :good:. So yes, this might hurt your phones performance a lot or a little...In case you are wondering why a GB modem for an ICS build? Thankfully, GB and ICS modems are interchangeable but not JB (you won't have data at all).
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...sung Galaxy S2 (Sprint) (SPH-D710)
/Modems/GB
4. Flash that modem. Reboot and check data still works. Update Proflie / PRL (don't really need to do this if there is data, but just to cover your bases) Done.
For a week now I have been running this, driving to fringe coverage areas and even the server room surrounded by walls and walls at work to get it to go mad. Hasn't..... yet. (observations still in progress - I'll try and run a network signal info app and document it)
UPDATE: Yesterday before my commute home I decided to give the EL29 modem a shot, so I flashed it and off I went. Driving through the fringe areas, what do you know - the pesky menu button problem that I had not missed came back! Reflashed EL26 and all was good again..
The cool thing is, you're not stuck with ICS going this route. You can further this and root the phone and go beyond 4.1.2 and install 4.2.2. But that is where it ends - 4.3 has no support for WiMax. XDA has some great 4.2.2 roms - I am running SlimBean, but Dirty Unicorns and Carbon are good IMHO. Keep in mind that data speeds won't be anywhere near TW speeds if you choose not to stay with the stock TW ICS rom. Additionally, make a nandroid backup of your system before installing a new ROM, if you need to go back for some reason.
I ran some tests on the ICS build / EL26 modem combination and quite honestly the performance was decent (If I have time to flash back to it I'll post some numbers)
I hope this helps some of you to not throw your phone across the room. Also spread the word as it seems like people search the forums but they never seem to find the fix because of varying key words they search on (I found the magnet hack just the other day).
Credit to michaelalanharlow & jc.m for their observations
This sounds interesting, but everything I've read, and having personally sent my phone back to Sammy twice gives all indications that this is a hardware issue and not a software issue. It has something to do with a faulty heat shield that causes some type of heat exchange. The reason you may not be having issues at the moment is that the older, less robust GB build doesn't put as much strain on the phone, thus not heating it up as much? Just a thought, but great observations nonetheless.
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This sounds interesting, but everything I've read, and having personally sent my phone back to Sammy twice gives all indications that this is a hardware issue and not a software issue. It has something to do with a faulty heat shield that causes some type of heat exchange. The reason you may not be having issues at the moment is that the older, less robust GB build doesn't put as much strain on the phone, thus not heating it up as much? Just a thought, but great observations nonetheless.
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That sounds right to me. From what I have read online the 3g chip in low signal areas strain to contact the towers and in its high powered frenzy it triggers the neighboring chip on the board that controls the softkeys, making it think that the menu button was pressed and hence the menu button craziness. I'm thinking the older firmware didn't ramp up the modem activity as much in low coverage areas, so it never reaches that threshold. This would suggest that the phone's range takes a hit, as the chip doesn't get too aggressive seeking out a signal; however, where I live my range didn't seem to change. I may even try going beyond the EL26 firmware to see where exactly is the threshold for my phone is in this area, as the one downside I noticed is my 4g speeds are not that great (but better than 3g that's for sure :laugh
I am curious as to why you made a thread on this when there is multiple threads on this topic. One of which I created that does not require half the steps you have nor does it require downgrading or sacrificing data performance... My point is, this thread is more or less, unnecessary.
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graydiggy said:
I am curious as to why you made a thread on this when there is multiple threads on this topic. One of which I created that does not require half the steps you have nor does it require downgrading or sacrificing data performance... My point is, this thread is more or less, unnecessary.
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Just my observations. I used the search function on several words to find a way to retain the use of the capacitive buttons as the threads that I read presented workarounds and there was individuals that didn't want to give up the button functionality (something about having a button there and knowing it doesn't do anything kind of makes some people crazy). I didn't find any reference to the magnet hack until yesterday when I typed in 'ghost menu' instead of 'phantom presses' or 'random presses'.
Also didn't want to necro post /hijack existing threads. Sorry if I offended you :good:
Thanks for the thread. My ebay phone w/sero hack was deferentially not up for warranty service. I had never seen the fridge magnet mod before. I just spent 5 min installing it myself, and I will see if it resolves the issue. :good: So far so good. I will report back if it fails for me.
BTW for anyone trying that hack. The first time the phone is opened it is a royal pain, almost feeling like impossible. A tip is to get the side started, then to to the bottom/usb area. The headphone jack extends just a little further into the case making it a bit longer and better for the last part to take off because of that. After the first time taking the phone apart is much less painful.
Oh and really tighten those screws down super tight. The screws not making the case super tight will cause the contact antenna points to make poor connection leading to signal and gps loss.
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Thanks for the thread. My ebay phone w/sero hack was deferentially not up for warranty service. I had never seen the fridge magnet mod before. I just spent 5 min installing it myself, and I will see if it resolves the issue. :good: So far so good. I will report back if it fails for me.
BTW for anyone trying that hack. The first time the phone is opened it is a royal pain, almost feeling like impossible. A tip is to get the side started, then to to the bottom/usb area. The headphone jack extends just a little further into the case making it a bit longer and better for the last part to take off because of that. After the first time taking the phone apart is much less painful.
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Keep me posted! I wish i found that post sooner, searching on this topic is lots of reading (and mostly 'return to Sprint' or 'remap keys')... if it goes well I'll do it to my phone as well (heck, I might as well anyways, that hack pretty much negated my month's worth of research! LOL)
a loyal SERO holdout! that's pretty awesome - I dumped my SERO a year ago. No 4g in your area?
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Keep me posted! I wish i found that post sooner, searching on this topic is lots of reading (and mostly 'return to Sprint' or 'remap keys')... if it goes well I'll do it to my phone as well (heck, I might as well anyways, that hack pretty much negated my month's worth of research! LOL)
a loyal SERO holdout! that's pretty awesome - I dumped my SERO a year ago. No 4g in your area?
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Well at ~$28/m including tax (still have employer discounts on top of the $30/mo rate) w/unlimited 3g data I can't find a better deal than my old sero plan. I did get a letter from sprint last month when I downloaded 60GB of data over that. oooppps.
Well it has been more than 24 hours, and I have not seen a single ghost touch since installing the magnet. :good:
Hopefully it is fixed for good.
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Well it has been more than 24 hours, and I have not seen a single ghost touch since installing the magnet. :good:
Hopefully it is fixed for good.
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How's data speeds? I stuck one in mines yesterday as well. It was bulging a lil, however, and I also noticed my data speeds wasn't that great. took out the magnet, took out the cushioning in that square region, and trimmed the magnet a lil more so it was thinner and voila'! I even went back to stock 4.1.2 ROM to 'increase' the chances of it flipping out. So far so good..:good:.
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How's data speeds? I stuck one in mines yesterday as well. It was bulging a lil, however, and I also noticed my data speeds wasn't that great. took out the magnet, took out the cushioning in that square region, and trimmed the magnet a lil more so it was thinner and voila'! I even went back to stock 4.1.2 ROM to 'increase' the chances of it flipping out. So far so good..:good:.
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Well if your case was bulging then there is a good chance that one of the antenna contacts was not making good contact. That could kill your speed. I would say that you used way to thick of a magnet. I used a piece that was probably as thick as a piece of poster board. It fit inside of the little square of plastic on the case cover next to the screw hole quite nicely.
Still no ghost touches to date.
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Well if your case was bulging then there is a good chance that one of the antenna contacts was not making good contact. That could kill your speed. I would say that you used way to thick of a magnet. I used a piece that was probably as thick as a piece of poster board. It fit inside of the little square of plastic on the case cover next to the screw hole quite nicely.
Still no ghost touches to date.
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Yeah, the piece of magnet i stuck in there was a tad too big
Well, I guess this means this fix works! It's working for mines as well, even on the stock ROM. I drove through the fringe areas and no symptoms yet.
I think I may have cut the magnet a little too small (slightly smaller in size than the OE peace it is covering) as the instances are greatly reduced, but still happened twice. Looks like I need to go back to the bench and put in a bigger piece. I never use those buttons though, so I wouldn't mind removing them via the software mod posts, but I'm lazy and find it a lot easier to open the phone and put this 'shielding' in vs. trying to figure out software mods.
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I think I may have cut the magnet a little too small (slightly smaller in size than the OE peace it is covering) as the instances are greatly reduced, but still happened twice. Looks like I need to go back to the bench and put in a bigger piece. I never use those buttons though, so I wouldn't mind removing them via the software mod posts, but I'm lazy and find it a lot easier to open the phone and put this 'shielding' in vs. trying to figure out software mods.
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I have have experienced phantom touches on my phone if the gold contacts on the motherboard and on the back of the phone are dirty; as well as loose connectors on the motherboard. I would suggest cleaning the contacts and re-attaching and cleaning the motherboard connectors, try those methods before trying the software hacks, and you may not even need the magnet either.
Good Luck!
Has anyone noticed that, for all its pixel density, there is some really poor-looking emphasis on edges? Lots of places throughout the stock UI, fonts, icons, etc, will have their edges brighter than the rest of the object. What's more is this is not uniformly applied, so you wind up with some words or icons having this edge detection going on, and in other places, things look properly "flat".
Frankly it makes this "beautiful" screen look really ugly, since the UI it displays looks really ugly.
You may be talking about the over sharpening issue that's been discussed to death on these forums. Hopefully LG fixes it with an OTA update, or we get it fixed with ROMS.
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You may be talking about the over sharpening issue that's been discussed to death on these forums. Hopefully LG fixes it with an OTA update, or we get it fixed with ROMS.
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Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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Glad you like it.
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Glad you like it.
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courtlandj said:
Hoping for an OTA fix is a pipe dream. LG will not fix this since they will consider that they put a lot of hard work in to over sharpen their UI. Not your UI, their UI, for their phone. Not your phone. So that will never get fixed.
That, combined with the hilarious decision to put the buttons on the back, which no software can address, just kind of leaves some glaring issues. Issues? No, too soft a word. Let's just call them what they are. Errors. Errors in judgment, errors in design, whatever. They got it wrong.
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You knew the buttons were on the back before you bought it so the error is yours if you find there placement an issue.
I think the screen is fantastic and don't have the problem you speak of.
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Lol, buying a device with buttons on the back...just to come on xda and complain about buttons on the back? Okie
As far as the screen sharpness, they do need to address it somehow because black text are indeed awful (not to the point i will complain about them awful though)
Should have done your homework before buying a device that OBVIOUSLY came with buttons on the back though...considering it was flashed all over the internet so you cannot say "oh i bought it and realized buttons were on the back" lol
MaximoMark said:
You knew the buttons were on the back before you bought it so the error is yours if you find there placement an issue.
I think the screen is fantastic and don't have the problem you speak of.
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You have it, it just doesn't bother you. Good for you, my eyes are pretty sharp though and don't need LG's help in that regard. Button placement? Sure. Sure I knew that beforehand. That does not mean it's my error. It's still LG's error. See, I can't really use this thing before I purchase it. They have display models in stores, but the backs (and often the sides) are covered in whatever anti-theft anchoring the store uses. It's not until I get the device home, have it in my pocket, that these usability errors can really make themselves felt. It didn't bother me while the device was in my hand, I thought, well, maybe I will just learn, in time, where my fingers should go. Fine.
But then, and imagine this scenario as being one I cannot replicate in a store with a demo model, the phone was laying face side up on my desk, and I wanted to turn the volume down. Or I wanted to turn the screen off. I can do that without picking the phone up with just about all other phones in the world. Inconvenient. This is a small issue! This is not a big deal. But. But I paid $600 for this, I am not supposed to have to put up with some minor inconvenience, is how I see it. For their flagship phone, the top of LG's current heap, they shouldn't have got any "small issues" wrong. But they did. They got this wrong. And while people replying to this thread seem to want to forgive LG, and that is your prerogative, I refuse to do so.
Doesn't your phone have knock code to switch the screen off? Or have volume controls in the notification area?
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Anyway, the screen looks terrible and the big beautiful screen is the biggest selling point (or am I wrong on this? some argue camera...).
I wouldn't return the phone because the buttons were on the back and yes, "lol", I knew they were there before, during, and after purchasing it.
The big beautiful screen turning out to be not very beautiful, now that, that I could return a phone over. There's not even an option to disable the over-sharpening. Tell me that is not a design failure.
Why is this thread even in existence? This topic been covered elsewhere and not to mention the rest of the post are off topic.
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shook187 said:
Why is this thread even in existence? This topic been covered elsewhere and not to mention the rest of the post are off topic.
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Not in terms of the screen looking not very great.
courtlandj said:
Not in terms of the screen looking not very great.
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You mean the sharpening?
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shook187 said:
You mean the sharpening?
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I have found that the stock theme/wallpapers/icons etc don't do the device any favors. Tweaking these things made the phone much more tolerable for me.
shook187 said:
You mean the sharpening?
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Including but not limited to. Sharpening is an issue, but since you cannot disable it, and since it is not by default enabled across all text rendering, not in all apps, etc, it's not uniform. The UI winds up non uniform. The entire graphical feel of it seems mixed and weird. So it made me feel like the display itself was not that great. I actually wondered if there was something physically wrong with my screen. Or, since it was not a uniform problem, was it only one part of the screen that was perhaps damaged or something.
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You have it, it just doesn't bother you. Good for you, my eyes are pretty sharp though and don't need LG's help in that regard. Button placement? Sure. Sure I knew that beforehand. That does not mean it's my error. It's still LG's error. See, I can't really use this thing before I purchase it. They have display models in stores, but the backs (and often the sides) are covered in whatever anti-theft anchoring the store uses. It's not until I get the device home, have it in my pocket, that these usability errors can really make themselves felt. It didn't bother me while the device was in my hand, I thought, well, maybe I will just learn, in time, where my fingers should go. Fine.
But then, and imagine this scenario as being one I cannot replicate in a store with a demo model, the phone was laying face side up on my desk, and I wanted to turn the volume down. Or I wanted to turn the screen off. I can do that without picking the phone up with just about all other phones in the world. Inconvenient. This is a small issue! This is not a big deal. But. But I paid $600 for this, I am not supposed to have to put up with some minor inconvenience, is how I see it. For their flagship phone, the top of LG's current heap, they shouldn't have got any "small issues" wrong. But they did. They got this wrong. And while people replying to this thread seem to want to forgive LG, and that is your prerogative, I refuse to do so.
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First, to your last post, the hardware buttons no software can address?
Tweaksbox can, they are hardware buttons like all others, it doesn't matter where they are on the device.
Turning the device off while flat on the table? Double tab the statusbar (yes, works with every launcher and in any app).
Sound: volume slider within notifications?!
If it's that much of an issue for you, swap it, simple as that, i do like having the buttons on the back, why? I can't press them by accident while gaming and i love the feel of having just the edges while in hand.
Last but not least, the oversharpening is your point, i don't really notice it and really like the screen, but that doesn't matter, that's just me, but anyways I'm pretty sure there will come an update for it, if not, that's xda, the bootloader unlock is almost released, there will be a fix for that, because, you know what, it's our device and we can mod the hell out of it if we like to. Every flagship has it's flaws, there isn't any perfect device on the market, if those of this device bug you too much, swap it for another, maybe those flaws you can stand.
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Buttons on the back is not an ERROR its lg DESIGN go to the lg 2 you will see, it wasn't thought over night...do not place your dislike on lg "error"
over sharpness been talked to death as it is. I never understand why people complain, don't like something return it. Its that much of an issue? return it. since I have gotten the phone I have only touched the volume keys for one, and only one thing....to take screen shot. Knock on puts the phone on for me, a simple double tap. If I want to be fancy, I can use the knock code or w.e the hell they call it. I only need my volume on two things, silent, vibration and sound...if its too loud notification is there to reduce it or voila...the buttons on the back a simple press will fix it.I do not need to move my hand in any weird kind of a way to do anything, I do not accidently have to press on the volume keys like i have done so many times.
The screen is beautiful without auto brightness. The oversharpness is batter of taste...you will either like it or you will hate it. You obviously hate it so very simple, return the phone instead of beating on the same dead horse. The screen is awful? we knoooooooooooooooooow from xda and all over the net and all over google + and every social media....the text are sharp? we knoooooooooooooooooooow...go return the phone.
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Buttons on the back is not an ERROR its lg DESIGN go to the lg 2 you will see, it wasn't thought over night...do not place your dislike on lg "error"
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I feel that it is an error.
mgbotoe said:
over sharpness been talked to death as it is. I never understand why people complain, don't like something return it. Its that much of an issue? return it.
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You are complaining about my complaints. I never understand why people complain about other people complaining. Don't like my complaint, ignore it. It's that much of an issue? Close your browser. :silly:
And with that, reported. We don't need another repetitive, argumentative thread that goes nowhere.
Than get rid of the error and return the phone like you said, no custom rom will fix that itch for you. Stop being a statistic of the list of people beating on the same dead horse.
Good luck on your future ventures I HOPE you do far more research on your next phone hunt huh? You rarely post in this forum as it is according to your junior status, member of 2011. Let hope the next post you choose to do about that phone wont result in something like this
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And with that, reported. We don't need another repetitive, argumentative post that goes nowhere.
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Thanks, i got lost in this lil banter. Lol see ya
Hi I own a LG G2 and planning to upgrade. So I am researching into worthy upgrades and their common issues faced by people regularly.
So please mention the common and uncommon issues you faced while using this device or heard about.
Any other suggestions regarding my upgrade is also welcome.
Thanks
in_core said:
Hi I own a LG G2 and planning to upgrade. So I am researching into worthy upgrades and their common issues faced by people regularly.
So please mention the common and uncommon issues you faced while using this device or heard about.
Any other suggestions regarding my upgrade is also welcome.
Thanks
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Common issue:
People that don't know what they're doing and are to lazy to read up messing up and soft bricking their devices.
Not so common issues but has been reported:
Lettering falling out on the back of the device
Camera showing some purple tint in low light
SIM cards not being picked up / read. Possibly not making proper contact
Some reports of camera lenses cracking
Have seen some people say that they have some dropped calls and/or SMSs not sending
Any other issues might possibly have been discussed in the Build Quality Concerns thread, might want to drop there and have a look at it.
BerndM14 said:
Common issue:
People that don't know what they're doing and are to lazy to read up messing up and soft bricking their devices.
Not so common issues but has been reported:
Lettering falling out on the back of the device
Camera showing some purple tint in low light
SIM cards not being picked up / read. Possibly not making proper contact
Some reports of camera lenses cracking
Have seen some people say that they have some dropped calls and/or SMSs not sending
Any other issues might possibly have been discussed in the Build Quality Concerns thread, might want to drop there and have a look at it.
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Pink Tint again? Like the M7? Oh Boy :/
Why can't giant manufacturers like HTC and Sony get things perfect even for once :/
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Pink Tint again? Like the M7? Oh Boy :/
Why can't giant manufacturers like HTC and Sony get things perfect even for once :/
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Yeah like the M7 though I haven't seen a lot of reports of it and I haven't noticed a problem like that on my device either.
And yes, it would be nice to have things perfect if you take into consideration the price we pay for these devices. :good:
BerndM14 said:
Yeah like the M7 though I haven't seen a lot of reports of it and I haven't noticed a problem like that on my device either.
And yes, it would be nice to have things perfect if you take into consideration the price we pay for these devices. :good:
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Exactly. Just about 10 months back I bought this G2 wi the same price the HTC One M8 is offered now in my country and after 7-8 months of usage suddenly i get this weird touch sensor issue and then after weeks it come to a point i cant even operate the phone properly and end up spending around $130 to change the whole display for it.
Thats the main reason I am changin this phone to get something which is reliable for a long period. Orelse i really loved my G2 and intended to keep it for atleast a Whole year more.
one common problem is the camera lens... even if you keep the phone in a case all the time, u are likely to get scratches on the lens, causing blur/soft pictures. but fret not! turns out its just some coating on it and can easily be removed with car polish or toothpaste.