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Quick Question, I have full root with credit due to the many people that helped me get there ; )
If i backup with Nandroid and use Titanium backup to back up my files and setting.
Can i then flash a differnt rom like (Fresh) to check it out?
Then
If i want to restore my previous rom can i just run nandroid to restore my backup?
Nandroid restores everything. Its complete in every way.
Backups like my backup and titanium can get most of your apps and some settings on any rom you install but most of your setup settings trend to not restore. Some apps can have issues from time to time. Any issues are easy to fix just install and reinstall from market.
Also you can have multiple nandroids and switch back and forth. So if you like two roms get them set as you like and nandroid. Do the same with any others and you can go back and forth. You can also rename them on your sd card.
yup , thats primarily why i use nandroid, and why its so friggin great. i think clockworkrecovery has the option to automatically create nandroid backups on a timely basis. i havent tried it out, but if you wanna make sure you backup your data frequently to prevent any loss of info, sounds like a good option to check out too.
what rom are you on? I was on fresh, and its a great rom but it got slow on me after a few days. i would suggest damagecontrol, cause its known to give a increase in battery life and was completely stable and fast on mine
Damage's rom is great. I'm also running v7 of froyo I forget who is doing it though.
Aridon said:
Also you can have multiple nandroids and switch back and forth. So if you like two roms get them set as you like and nandroid. Do the same with any others and you can go back and forth. You can also rename them on your sd card.
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That is great, thanks a ton guys!
A few of my friends thought it would be amusing to attempt to guess my lock code, which was all fun and games until I realised I had neither my wifi nor my data connection enabled (for the sake of battery life) so I could not unlock my phone using my google account as it could not get a connection.
What should I do? I have no nandroid backup as I've only been running this for a few days and do not want to have to restore back to my old rom then re-restore all my files again!
I am running Virtuous Quattro RC3 for HTC Desire HD
Thanks,
Alex
EDIT: I think that the problem would be solved if there was someway to enable data or wifi while the phone is locked. If anyone knows of such a work around, please help!
flash the same ROM again, if you are willing to have the applications installed again. Btw, do u have any backup of apps/data through apps like titanium?
Yep, I have a 2 day old backup, though it takes about 9 hours to restore the files and there are some things I'd rather keep that i've added in the few days so ideally i'd need another solution.
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Yep, I have a 2 day old backup, though it takes about 9 hours to restore the files and there are some things I'd rather keep that i've added in the few days so ideally i'd need another solution.
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Ok first if it takes 9 hours to restore files man there is something wrong. I hate to say it but a factory reset and reflash maybe your only option
It really shouldn't take 9 hours... Are you restoring the entire SD card content?
Just flash the rom again and wipe only your cache
I just installed CM9 to try and get the link to cell on my home phone to work. The Stock ICS would pair with my home phone but not connect up correctly. I was hoping the the raw build of CM9 might fix this bluetooth issue, but i guess not. Seems like the only way my phone will connect is under GB. How can i go back to GB without brickiing my phone? Can i use sfhub's one click odin to EL29? Do i have to wipe anything first??
EDIT: In addition, now i have a triangle on my phone, i want to use triangle away, but it does make me nervious. In any case, would i use this before going back to GB or after?
I was able to go back to GB using one click odin EL29. That worked just great! The problem is now when i tried to restore my apps from titainium backup it complains that my android id change? I dont know how to change it back since im not using the pro version? Is there a way to do this? I have an app for my work that requires restoring uses the same ID, otherwise i need to contact IT department again to get my mail working again
Hopefully you made a nand back up of your previous before you flashed cm9, I would just restore that.
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yeah that would have made sense, but i didnt. I figured that you cant really restore but i guess you could have. i didnt think i would have to go back
In tibu under preferences choose manage android ID and try restore id from backup see if you can restore it I think it saves your id to sd
Edit: not sure if that works without pro I've had pro version for over 2 yrs :shrug: but worth a try
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I didn't nandroid backup because I thought it was a waste of time since you can't really restore them on different roms. I just assumed that since everything was backed up with TB that I could just restore the apps and data. I had no ideas that the android ID would change. I'm not quite sure what that really is. I wouldn't think a factory reset would change it but I guess I was wrong.
At some point last night I was able to get the apps to show up in TB list. That's said the one app I need for work did restore but does not sync with our servers anymore. I can only guess it has something to do with the android ID. In order to see the apps again I redid ODIN el29, which changed my android ID yet again. I thought that was something that was burned into the phone somehow. TB is still asking if I want to restore not the original one but the 2nd one if that makes sense.
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First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way. This is when I found out that my old Blackberry and even iPhone had much more complete backup solutions that non-rooted Android. I have totally recovered the other devices without losing anything in the past so I thought Android would be a snap as well.
Any way to the point now. After searching I have found great work done by the members and I feel pretty comfortable proceeding to root my stock ICS and getting Titanium to do a full backup. I will fix my keyboard and few other things while at it.
My questions are:
1. When the next official release comes from ATT / Samsung will I have to reflash to the stock boot.img (found in another thread) to be able to get the upgrade and then root my phone again?
2. Once rooted, is it better to just come back here and get the updated ROM and flash manually?
3. Is the best way to achieve the complete backup solution I am looking for?
I am pretty happy with the stock ROMs but I want to be able to get a good and full backup going forward since it takes so long to reinstall everything. I could even live with the bloatware if I was confident I could completely restore at anytime.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Roy
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
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Shawn said:
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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A nandroid backup is more like an image backup of the flash, so you would have to restore the whole thing to get back any files you may have lost. It's mostly for backing up prior to flashing a new ROM, so if you don't like it you can go back to what you had easily.
If you want to back up pictures and things like that you should be able to plug the phone into a computer and mount the flash as a drive (I've done this on my Linux and Windows systems many times). Then you can copy the files you want to save to your computer, or copy a new ROM to the phone so you can flash it with CWMR.
You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
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You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
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mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
VideoRoy said:
mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
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You will need to root again once you update. Replacing stock recovery with CWMR will not make you lose any data.
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VideoRoy said:
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way.
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It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
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It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
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I am with you all the way.
I have installed CWMR now and completed a nandroid backup. After tracking down the backup I copied to my laptop for safe keeping. Also installed the keyboard fix only and it worked fine. Later tonight I will give root a try with Titanium.
BTW I was having SMS issues with the stock ICS. No alerts and basic funky things. I have loaded Go SMS Pro and am happier not only fixing the app issues but giving me Group text mode so I am not an outcast with the rest of my iPhone family
Thanks for helping me get going here.
ICS has a bunch of issues, including the bad notifications.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
As others have posted. I back up all my information per app via Titanium backup and every few months I make a new Nandroid backup. This gives me the best of both worlds. A full backup that I can get back to via Nandroid backup and little backups from Titanium backup if I choose to uninstall and re-install an individual app later on in the future.
Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Great information thanks!!
The backups I am most worried about are all the system settings, app settings and data mostly. I am probably older than most folks here and I do not really text much except family and a few co-workers. I honestly never worried about backing up my SMS / MMS but I will check on my APNs because I had that problem on a Blackberry once. Email is where I store most important stuff and talk about paranoid I have multiple copies of my emails on different computers on different operating systems. 20 years working in storage will do that to you
I believe that if Google or Samsung even came up with a backup solution that did what Blackberry or Apple could do it would solve a lot and I probably would not even be working on this. Blackberry saved my bacon more than once with the complete backup they do in their clunky software and last year when my daughters iPhone would no longer power off, I was able to use iTunes to do a complete backup and she was up and running on a new phone in 15 mins exactly where she left off.
Thanks for the advice!
Just wondering what everyone else is using for backups (apps, app data, internal storage, sms/mms, etc.), particularly if you're switching between ROMs or anything else that involves wiping periodically. I love experimenting with custom ROMs but I hate the wipe/restore that goes with it, and I almost always lose data when I soft-brick. I also often lose data when intentionally wiping to flash a different ROM and my app data fails to restore. Anyone have a flawless solution for always staying backed up (preferably on a schedule) and always restoring successfully?
Things I've tried:
* Migrate: Earlier versions had restoration problems, but these days it's more reliable. I do a full backup before any intentional upgrade or ROM flash, then copy to a computer manually, and it usually restores successfully
* SwiftBackup: Limited options, but the nightly schedule keeps most of my data backed up to the cloud and has restored successfully about 95% of the time
* Titanium Backup: Was beyond perfect, but discontinued
* OAndXBackup: Seemed like an okay replacement for TiBu but the only time I tried to restore it failed
* AlphaBackup: Flexible manual backups but limited auto backup options. Haven't tried to restore
What else is out there? I especially miss the options for TiBu where I could back up everything once a week and then backup "apps with modified data" nightly. Nothing else I've found has that specific option.
Powerful, efficient, configurable, scheduled https://github.com/VR-25/migrator
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Powerful, efficient, configurable, scheduled https://github.com/VR-25/migrator
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Looks great! I'll definitely give it a try. As a Linux person I love that the help section is written like a man page. How's actual real-world success in restoration?
I have searched on github for a zip to install, but nowhere to be found, so no magisk installable zip.
Then I saw that there is an issue that after using the app for a backup it breaks every app on the device.
So this is both not installable nor stable.
I may have used Titanium since Android 7, until Android 12 Titanium is still running well
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I may have used Titanium since Android 7, until Android 12 Titanium is still running well
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TiBu development was stopped at least a couple of years ago and I've had all sorts of issues since Android 10. App freezes when it encounters certain apps, it can't handle split apks, restored apps tend to crash, etc. Glad it's working for you, but that hasn't been my experience the last couple of years.
Titanium still has some usefulness, but is definitely outdated!
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Just wondering what everyone else is using for backups (apps, app data, internal storage, sms/mms, etc.), particularly if you're switching between ROMs or anything else that involves wiping periodically. I love experimenting with custom ROMs but I hate the wipe/restore that goes with it, and I almost always lose data when I soft-brick. I also often lose data when intentionally wiping to flash a different ROM and my app data fails to restore. Anyone have a flawless solution for always staying backed up (preferably on a schedule) and always restoring successfully?
Things I've tried:
* Migrate: Earlier versions had restoration problems, but these days it's more reliable. I do a full backup before any intentional upgrade or ROM flash, then copy to a computer manually, and it usually restores successfully
* SwiftBackup: Limited options, but the nightly schedule keeps most of my data backed up to the cloud and has restored successfully about 95% of the time
* Titanium Backup: Was beyond perfect, but discontinued
* OAndXBackup: Seemed like an okay replacement for TiBu but the only time I tried to restore it failed
* AlphaBackup: Flexible manual backups but limited auto backup options. Haven't tried to restore
What else is out there? I especially miss the options for TiBu where I could back up everything once a week and then backup "apps with modified data" nightly. Nothing else I've found has that specific option.
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How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
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How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
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I'm not familiar with the options in TWRP other than making a full nandroid or partition backup (which is huge since I keep a lot of data on my phone). Are there other options? Does it have a way to back up apps and app data? I also assume TWRP doesn't support Android 12 on this device yet?
It should work regardless of the Android version, but I'll stop myself from making assumptions.
Some custom recoveries like OrangeFox have app specific backup, though it's quite unstable. So a full nandroid backup may be your best bet. Try compression, it may reduce the backup size.
TWRP isn't available for 12 yet that I'm aware of. The last update that went official stated in the changelog that the recent update should make it easier to port it for A12. Flashing/booting it on an A12 rob will send you straight back to bootloader.
Titanium is indeed old, discontinued and had a terrible UX, but still works (Android 11).
Swift Backup has matured a lot, I believe is the complete replacement for Titanium.
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How come nobody's mentioned custom recoveries and their backup options? TWRP has some solid backup options, though I will mention it's far from perfect.
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Because twrp cannot use my external USB flash card, it's unusable. I have to make a full backup on internal data and then export that, but how could I ever restore if needed?
I wished twrp would work, had that half of my life on my phones, but not on this one until this works. Twrp on oneplus9 I'm seeing too much problems atm.
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Because twrp cannot use my external USB flash card, it's unusable. I have to make a full backup on internal data and then export that, but how could I ever restore if needed?
I wished twrp would work, had that half of my life on my phones, but not on this one until this works. Twrp on oneplus9 I'm seeing too much problems atm.
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Ah I see. Thank you for clarifying.