I am on amon ra 2.3. What are the benefits of updating to the newer(4.1?) recovery?
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I am like you and am using an older version of Amon ra. I thought about updating to the newer version but since everything works great the way it is I decided to leave well enough alone. What I have does what I want without any problems.
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If you search the development thread, you will find the changelog for ra recovery...I don't remember all of the additions, but the changelog will fill you in and you can decide from there if it is worth staying with something that works, or have something else that works with more options.
i was the same way and thought i would change phones before i needed a recovery different from Amon_ra 2.3. I did make the switch to smelkus and it is very very good. The batch wipes alone are worth the change.
Give it a try, it's not like you can't change back...
The automatic rebooting after backups is nice.
To change to the new amon ra recovery do I just place the new .img file in the root directory and then go to the bootloader to update right?
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To change to the new amon ra recovery do I just place the new .img file in the root directory and then go to the bootloader to update right?
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Easier way is to download the PC36IMG.zip off of smelkus's thread then boot into bootloader, it will read it like it does an ruu and then you hit the volume up button to install. Thats it
Edit: to save you some time, here is the zip from Smelkus's thread, remember to rename the file to PC36IMG
Love Smelkus version. No problems so far.
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There's a lot to be said for how trick TWRP is, but...
The second I booted into this I remembered how great AR backups are. Simple, smart, easy on the eyes, easy to use... and yes, I agree, the WIPE menu in this version is so excellent that alone makes it worthwhile.
It would be perfect if the settings ("x"s) in NAND BACKUP held from one backup to the next.
Great work, highly recommended!!
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Can Someone Customize it to be able to go through folders to flash zips instead of having to drop everything on the root of my sd card it's looks really unorganized and I always forget to put the zip on the root of my sd after wiping everything then trying to flash something. I wouldn't mind donating for that and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that wouldn't mind donating for that being put in there.
The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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Clockwork doesn't back up radios
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The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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Can Someone Customize it to be able to go through folders to flash zips instead of having to drop everything on the root of my sd card it's looks really unorganized and I always forget to put the zip on the root of my sd after wiping everything then trying to flash something. I wouldn't mind donating for that and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that wouldn't mind donating for that being put in there.
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You would have to go to Amon_RA and talk to him. i believe i heard he was busy for a while. Maybe check with him on updating RA from 1.8.0 to something like 1.8.1. We defiantly need it!
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The first recovery agent i had, clockwork or whatever, it let me go through folders. I'm not sure why the more recent version doesn't let you.
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Clockworkmod is for the noobies once first after rooting and using rom manager....unless you have RA, you wont wipe data nor dalvik or even battery stats correctly with clockwork. Clockwork needs a major overhaul. Clockwork and RA are two totally different recoveris. RA's feature is for there to not be so much clutter. so its scans /sdcard just for roms.
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Yeah and also can anyone enable loop devices in it because I think it is one of the reasons why the dualboot doesnt work.
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not understanding your question....pleasse be a little more descriptive.....
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Clockwork doesn't back up radios
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right clockwork has a ton of issues. i agree that it needs to be updated....or that someone needs to come along and try to combine both RA recovery style and clockworks style into one recovery....except do it right! (not halfassing it) but still......clockwork is always good for searching those folders. RA is good for wiping and stability and outrageously good for the nand backups!
First, amon recovery has its own thread and this request has been asked many times before.
Second, amon has the ability to mount the sdcard to your pc while in recovery. Honestly if you are doing any kind of flashing on your phone (besides nands) you really should be near a pc the whole time.
Last, if you read the amon thread, amon himself said that writing recoveries is a hobby and not his profession. Make your request be known in his thread and be patient although this request has been made many times like I said even by me. But when you realize how valuable the usb ms toggle option is (along with apps like astro, root explorer, etc) you will eventually get into the habit of triple checking your steps prior to flashing anything.
I agree with bmx añd lovëtheevo
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For the folder issues, I just use ASTRO file manager to move the file I want to flash to the root of my SD. It's not hard, and can be done in a few seconds.
I see that a lot of the "experienced" android users prefer Amon_Ra recovery over Clockwork. I have to say that I personally have used Clockwork with no problems what so ever. Even a chicken**** noob like myself can use ROM manager w/o a problem. I never had a problems backing up my current ROM, restoring it or downloading and installing a totally new ROM.
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I see that a lot of the "experienced" android users prefer Amon_Ra recovery over Clockwork. I have to say that I personally have used Clockwork with no problems what so ever. Even a chicken**** noob like myself can use ROM manager w/o a problem. I never had a problems backing up my current ROM, restoring it or downloading and installing a totally new ROM.
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Make sure you have at least one amonra nand backup squirelled away though. Clockwork doesn't back up the wimax image or rsa keys. Amonra does.
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That's what I do for the time being but I like to organize my stuff in folders and sometimes o end up forgetting to move them and then wipe everything at work and be without my phone until I get home
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For the folder issues, I just use ASTRO file manager to move the file I want to flash to the root of my SD. It's not hard, and can be done in a few seconds.
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Amon_RA has said that v1.9.0 will have folder navigation. Simple as that.
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Amon_RA has said that v1.9.0 will have folder navigation. Simple as that.
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Thanks for letting us know. Do you have a link so some of us can keep and eye out for the update?
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I'm curious, who uses which and why?
*Amon. Oops
I personally use cw...but many people on this forum swear by amon bc they say it is more reliable... some roms require you to use amon to flash. ...I personally have never had issues flashing with cw...
Bottom line is that we have two good choices if you are a flashaholic
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Amon-ra is my preference 0 errors. Clockwork is nice also, has its own app but people have reported a couple of flashing errors. Both are awesome all I can say is try out both see which one you like better.
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I was kind of tempted with the features and GUI of Clockwork, but after reading a bit on here, it seems like Amon Ra is the reliable way to go. I'm new to Evo rooting and roms, but when I had my Nexus One, AR was absolutely the way to go. Rock freakin' solid.
Currently if you have a evo with hboot 2.02 or 2.10 the only recovery u can use after rooting is amon ra...just a fyi
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Amon by far.
Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
I use Amon_ra because it backs up the wimax rsa keys. That's the only advantage I saw
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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The solution is to place your flashable .zip files to the base sdcard directory and not within a subfolder.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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Like the person above said, Amon_RA 1.8.0 can only use ZIP files which are on the root of your SD card, not in a sub-folder. Version 2.0 (which Amon_RA has suggested will be coming soon-ish) will have folder navigation.
Amon Ra currently but I have used both. The reasons are clear it backs the RSA keys, and does clear when wiping.
Btw try #grep RSA /sdcard/nandroid/HT065HL*/(name of nandroid file)/wimax.img
You'll see where your RSA keys are stored in your nandroid.
I go back and forth.... I use amon ra for nandroid backups and serious flashes like radio pri nv all that jazz. I like clockwork for ease sometimes. I don't use app2sd. I use titanium to wipe davlik and repeat in either cw or amon ra just to be sure... They both have their good points. and bad
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OK.
I need some serious help!
I have an EVO that I rooted with UNREVOKED about a month ago
This afternoon, I tried to flash to the new Synergy Rom with the cool Sense UI, BUT!! Dumb me, who was up working all night long was not reading correctly and flashed the INCREDIBLE ROM.
Yeah Yeah I know, dumb thing
I obviously got an error and then tried to restore my Nandroid backups that I had previously made.
These caused errors too..which they never had before.
I pulled the battery and then couldn't even get into clockwork mod.
I was thankfully able to flash Clockwork MOD to at least be able to get into a recovery screen.
I did so, and flashed my Myn 2.2 ROM which thankfully installed.
Tonight, I went back to try to flash the ROM that I had originally wanted to flash and the flash was complete.
HOWEVER, when I rebooted, it just kept going to the white HTC screen, hanging and then rebooting to the white HTC screen over and over.
I tried to start all over but doing a data wipe/factory restore and to wipe the Dalvik Cache..
When I did this, I got an error:
E:Can't mount/dev/block/mmcb1k0p2
File exists.
I was able to get back to my Myn 2.2 but things like Google navigator don't work,
I hope I have explained this well enough for you guys to understand.
If there is anyone out there that can help me, I would appreciate it!!!
Thanks
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You did not brick your device.
Try this out and tell me it works.
Download EVO version of your preferred Rom. Place on SD card.
Search for amon ra supersonic.
Go to the xda link once you search for it.
Download the PC36IMG.zip version of amon ra.
Place on sdcard, but not in any folders.
Make sure the file name is "PC36IMG.zip", it is case sensitive.
Turn off phone.
Reboot into hboot, by holding the volume DOWN key and power button.
Let the hboot find the PC36IMG image.
When it asks whether you want to update/flash...say yes.
It will unload the recovery image into your phone.
It will ask you if you want to reboot, say no.
Then, go to where it says recovery and click to boot into recovery.
Now you should be using amon ra v2.3.3 supersonic.
Go to wipe and wipe everything, factory reset, data, ext, android secure, everything!
If you feel frisky, wipe again!
Now, proceed to flash from zip.
Choose the Rom you downloaded in step one.
That should do the trick. Also...clockwork mod nandroid backups will not work with amon ra backups, and vice versa. Keep this in mind.
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So you think it is the clockwork? I hear that most people like Amon RA better.
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So you think it is the clockwork? I hear that most people like Amon RA better.
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Well, when I first purchased my Evo I used clockwork mod for about a day. It caused me issues, personally, which could also be attributed to my lack of knowledge at the time. So I tried amon ra and have always been happy. My issue with cwm was that it did wipe correctly.
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http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=PC36IMG.zip
cm7, darkhorse, tiamat4.05, oc'd to 1.228 Ghz...
What is this a file for? Is this Amon RA?
Looks like link to amon ra
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Thanks for the file
I have read that it is possible that you can lose your 4G keys with AMON RA. That makes me nervous...is there anyway to avoid this?
No one can guarantee that you won't lose your WiMax keys with either recovery. I have never used Clockwork on my EVO, but my keys are intact with AMON RA, and it is easy to back them up with AMON RA.
Thank you so much!!!
I have company in town and not a lot of time to play...so it is SAFE to wipe everything?
Is there anything that I shouldn't be wiping?
Android security? What is that? And is it Safe? I am just a bit nervous...but THANK YOU for your help!
Don't wipe your SD card. Yes, wipe android secure.
Android secure is a directory used by Google apps2sd, capable on froyo and above. It is where Google stores your apps once you move them to SD card. You can wipe it.
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unfortunately, this did not work. I did everything that you said. I install the amon ra, and deleted everything and wiped everything that you said. I installed the new ram that I thought was a successful install. it booted to the white htc screen, and then turned itself off and right back on it went right back to that same white htc screen. It kept doing this.....other then this being a bad rom can you think of anything else I could be causing this? HELP!
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I agree to use amon ra. Try formatting the system partition. I know that the new sense roms are large.
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How do I go about doing that and what does that do? Will that mess up anything on my sd card?
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And I did want to say, that I can reload Myn Warm 2.2... but it too is having problems..
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Can someone please tell me how I can format my system partition please?
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What version of RA do u have? I had a version that have options for clearing a bunch of partitions. I'm pretty sure its there under advanced or something... Clear system partition? Out won't hurt anything, but you have to flash a rom after that or there will be nothing to boot to
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2.3.3 Supersonic Amon RA
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sorry I am not rooted right now. I received a replacement phone because of a broken micro USB and it came with 2.3.3. Do you see an option for wipe system partition? or format system partition?
I also think that the mikg rom runs a script during flash that wipes the system. Kind of aamikiam's way of taking the end user mistakes out of the equation I guess...
I have a feeling it will be fine but I just want to ask and be sure amon ra is compatible with Rom manager right?
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No, rom manager will not work with amon_ra recovery. You have to have cwm recovery for it to work.
You don't need ROM Manager anyhow, except to fix permissions and even that you can do with Amon Ra and with terminal.
I just wanna be able to flash easier is their an equivalent for ra?
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OK, well ROM Manager may make flashing easier, but there is no end to the posts on here from people who had problems using it.
It's really not that hard to go to Recovery and do proper wipes so your flashes give you less problems
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OK, well ROM Manager may make flashing easier, but there is no end to the posts on here from people who had problems using it.
It's really not that hard to go to Recovery and do proper wipes so your flashes give you less problems
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Good to no, yea I chose ra from jump street cause I read clockwork dosent always wipe completely, I really just wanted to flash over the air but now it dosent sound so appealing anymore, thanks
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Hi, I'm new to the whole rooting scene, and I rooted my phone for the first time yesterday. Had Fresh Evo installed and everything was nice,but i saw a sense 3.5 update as well, so i tried to flash that, and now my phone won't go past the white Evo screen. I can boot into recovery, but i cant do anything else! Freaked out, please help!
I'm not too familiar with sense. Did you try and flash another updated rom? Or did you accept some ota update? If it was a .zip, wipe cache, wipe davlik, then reflash.
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Just restore your backup that you should have made
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Also make sure your using amon ra and not clockworkmod everyone uses amon ra
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See the link to my guide in my signature. I'm guessing you did not wipe properly but my guide should help
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+1 on the amon ra recovery
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Thanks!
Turns out, i didn't wipe properly, and now my phone is back to where it should be. I don't have a copy of my original backup, for some reason, i couldn't read it in recovery. I'm thinking about restoring it to out of box settings and starting the root again...but anyways, I do use clockwork mod...can someone inform me as to how to go about getting Amon Ra? That's an awesome name, btw. Amon Ra....
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Turns out, i didn't wipe properly, and now my phone is back to where it should be. I don't have a copy of my original backup, for some reason, i couldn't read it in recovery. I'm thinking about restoring it to out of box settings and starting the root again...but anyways, I do use clockwork mod...can someone inform me as to how to go about getting Amon Ra? That's an awesome name, btw. Amon Ra....
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Here you are brutha
Just rename it to
PC36IMG.zip
Place on the root of your SD Card
Boot to Boot Loader
Follow on screen prompts
Volume up to update
Volume up to confirm
Finished!
TrevE Supporter!
Thanks! I'd press the thanks button, but I'm on the app...unless there's a way to do it here, but anyways thanks! I flashed the sense 3.0 with Beats audio from the HTC rhyme, and its pretty sweet.
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You just touch as if your gonna reply and there should be an option to thank