guyz,what is you opinion about this,, can it be run at the same time?
a2sd darktremor/a2sd is a fast and easy process. It can be done with 2 clicks in a2sd darktremor app or 3 commands in better terminal emulator. But it is limited, you cant store unlimited apps using a2sd darktremor as it doesnt move the entire library files and only moves the dalvik cache to sd card. You can use a max of 150-200 apps with a2sd with 30-40 games in it as you will run out of internal memory due to the library files size growing.
Link2sd is a more complicated and time taking process but you can store virtually more than 2x times the apps stored by a2sd darktremor. It involves the linking of application,library and dalvik cache to sd card and is more stable than a2sd. You can often face very slow booting times with a2sd but link2sd is a lot faster as you have the option to link background running apps , launchers and some stuff which needed to be in internal memory so as to minimize battery drain and perform faster and you can link the other apps (games,non background apps etc) to sd card and thereby having a maximum performance + major storage ability. You can store 400+ apps using Link2sd (Im having 340 odd with 40 apps in internal memory and 84 mb internal memory left).
You cant run both at the same time. It makes fcs and boot loops. So imo link2sd>>>a2sd.
loud and clear,, thanks man,
one more thing when i try to link apps, library and dalvik, usng link2sd
the application icon itself gone in my screen,, what should i do
kimerika said:
loud and clear,, thanks man,
one more thing when i try to link apps, library and dalvik, usng link2sd
the application icon itself gone in my screen,, what should i do
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just re-add the widget to the home screen
kimerika said:
loud and clear,, thanks man,
one more thing when i try to link apps, library and dalvik, usng link2sd
the application icon itself gone in my screen,, what should i do
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You can add widgets in home screen using link2sd in two ways.
1) Move it to internal memory(phone) (recommended as it takes more battery to load widget from sd card rather than from internal memory at first boot/for apps which need constant refresh/flow of data)
2) Link the entire thing to SD card and re-select the widget from home screen.
I think s2e is a better option
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hitme987 said:
a2sd darktremor/a2sd is a fast and easy process. It can be done with 2 clicks in a2sd darktremor app or 3 commands in better terminal emulator. But it is limited, you cant store unlimited apps using a2sd darktremor as it doesnt move the entire library files and only moves the dalvik cache to sd card. You can use a max of 150-200 apps with a2sd with 30-40 games in it as you will run out of internal memory due to the library files size growing.
Link2sd is a more complicated and time taking process but you can store virtually more than 2x times the apps stored by a2sd darktremor. It involves the linking of application,library and dalvik cache to sd card and is more stable than a2sd. You can often face very slow booting times with a2sd but link2sd is a lot faster as you have the option to link background running apps , launchers and some stuff which needed to be in internal memory so as to minimize battery drain and perform faster and you can link the other apps (games,non background apps etc) to sd card and thereby having a maximum performance + major storage ability. You can store 400+ apps using Link2sd (Im having 340 odd with 40 apps in internal memory and 84 mb internal memory left).
You cant run both at the same time. It makes fcs and boot loops. So imo link2sd>>>a2sd.
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then why guys from evriwer keep asking abt "does this kernel/rom supports a2sd or a2sd darktremor" lik dat wen it isnt the nice option to choose than link2sd app for evri new rom in threads????
this is closed
it seems that no one here use a2sd darktremor to its maximum potential (lol)
a2sd darktremor/a2sd is a fast and easy process. It can be done with 2 clicks in a2sd darktremor app or 3 commands in better terminal emulator. But it is limited, you cant store unlimited apps using a2sd darktremor as it doesnt move the entire library files and only moves the dalvik cache to sd card. You can use a max of 150-200 apps with a2sd with 30-40 games in it as you will run out of internal memory due to the library files size growing.
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cache2sd is only one of option can be used with a2sd darktremor. another option, we can use data2sd. in this way, there's no limit with max app we could use. there's also another method of using a2sd darktremor. try to use help menu of a2sd and you'll get all the method used.
Link2sd is a more complicated and time taking process but you can store virtually more than 2x times the apps stored by a2sd darktremor.
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actually it depends on the ext partition size and the method used in a2sd. with data2sd you can even use almost zero internal memory. don't forget that link2sd only have linking option. while with a2sd we can also manage our system including our memory management. we can set our ram setting to be more powerfull for games or run a multiple app at same time.
to be concluded, there's no one better. both of them has positive and negative side.
link2sd (+) easy to use. (-) the function is limited
a2sd (+) more function, more method, more system setting (-) only for experienced user
kurotsugi said:
it seems that no one here use a2sd darktremor to its maximum potential (lol)
cache2sd is only one of option can be used with a2sd darktremor. another option, we can use data2sd. in this way, there's no limit with max app we could use. there's also another method of using a2sd darktremor. try to use help menu of a2sd and you'll get all the method used.
actually it depends on the ext partition size and the method used in a2sd. with data2sd you can even use almost zero internal memory. don't forget that link2sd only have linking option. while with a2sd we can also manage our system including our memory management. we can set our ram setting to be more powerfull for games or run a multiple app at same time.
to be concluded, there's no one better. both of them has positive and negative side.
link2sd (+) easy to use. (-) the function is limited
a2sd (+) more function, more method, more system setting (-) only for experienced user
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Yeah. Data2sd is ONLY for experienced users. But it consumes A LOT of battery cuz it links the WHOLE data partition to sd card. Where as in Link2sd we can manage the apps which needed to be on internal memory and link the rest of stuff to sd card. So ENTIRE Data partition stays in INTERNAL Memory! Background processes, widgets, launchers and running processes need to be in internal memory in order to have LESS battery consumption . Link2sd is a TIME TAKING process where as a2sd+data2sd is just 5-6 clicks.
I used a2sd(data2sd) before. It doesnt matter for people who use about 50~150 apps but having 300+ apps definitely causes A LOT of drain with a2sd. I am using the same (having 360~ atm) with link2sd and the battery drain is way less. Also, data2sd degrades the sd card life since those running processes need to access all the time. Where as in Link2sd , background stuff stays in internal memory so SD card life is more, battery drain is less and PROFIT!
Regarding Link2sd how can you say the function is limited, I am having ~370 apps with more than 60 games in it and about 30 apps in internal memory.
I am having a problem with LINK2SD ... Have just tested with the Zombiebooth App ...
The app is 30mb was on the SD card (APP2SD standard method), moved it back to internal it took up 30mb, and then LINK2SD it over to the EXT4 partiton on my sdcard .. it shows the memory space is still using 26mb internal .. WTF .. why is the app still using 26mb ? surely LINK2SD should move all 30mb over and just create a small link on the internal memory ?? What is being left behind, why, and how can this be resolved.
After moving many of my apps over with LINK2SD a large chunk of internal memory is still being used ?!
EDIT: Just read FAQ's of LINK2SD ... some internal files of an app are still left behind on internal memory under \data\data folder ...
Wonder if it is still possible to move these files over ?
Omg you gues are having so.much apps installed....
I have total 120 apps
Can u give.me.ur app list...lol
"Addicted to XDA more then facebook.....lol"
link2SD is tough to use for me even after the guide. A2SD is way to go.
Link2sd. Much much better.
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a2sd if you want 200-300 apps and bigger and better internal memory management on SGY
link2sd if you want performance, deepsleep, and more battery
a2sd for me saves lots of internal memory. although the way to install this is via patch
Integrate sys dalvik in the Rom with titanium backup and Link2sd is the option i have been using with my class2 memory card and with this method i have much internal memory free and phone is never laggy even with a class2 sdcard. Otherwise with such a memory card no other option seems to be promising.
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Gauravdgamer said:
Omg you gues are having so.much apps installed....
I have total 120 apps
Can u give.me.ur app list...lol
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Even i would like to have that list.
Related
So, you are thinking 'not again the *** apps2sd n00b question', but here I am
I did some research on XDA and the rest of the internet though, but nobody seems to have this problem.
I have a rooted Desire with DeFrost 6.0. With it, it is very easy to install your apps on the SD-card. I have only 8 apps on the ROM itself, but those are widgets and apps with notifications like Facebook (notifications don't work if they are installed on de sd-card is my experience).
The rest of my applications are installed on the sd-card (around 80 apps). But the problem is that all apps also have a piece of dalvikCache on the ROM as well. You all know that of course. For instance, I installed Documents To Go (5MB) on the sd-card. It also has 5MB dalvikCache on the ROM, so thats double the price .
Now if people ask here 'is it safe to move the cache to the sd-card', most of you say 'unless you want to show off how much empty space you have on your phone, I would just keep it on the phone'. But I do not have any free space.
With DiskUsage I can see that I have around 150 MB of data: 26MB system data, 15MB free space (and he is already nagging the telephone is running out of space), and more than 100MB of applications, with most of it is dalvikCache.
So is this normal? Is 80 apps really the max you can have?
My biggets app is by the way Documents To Go (5MB), and I had to delete it. So I don't have very big apps.
Just want to know how much apps you guys have
Thanks.
How have you forced the Dalvik Cache to stay on the phone memory and why/how have you copied your widgets on your phone memory?
PS: Do you use an EXT3 Partition or the Froyo legacy A2SD?
It's not unusual to move dalvik cache as well as the app. You will need root though, and then just partition your sd-card and install a rom with a2sd+. The only /data/data will take up space on the phone.
UpSpin said:
How have you forced the Dalvik Cache to stay on the phone memory and why/how have you copied your widgets on your phone memory?
PS: Do you use an EXT3 Partition or the Froyo legacy A2SD?
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I didn't do anything to force the cache to stay on de phone. But it's normal the dalvikCache is on the phone memory right?
I use defrost 6.0 and in it you can go to settings > applications > manage applicatons, an you can move all your apps to the sd-card. I'm not sure what kind of A2SD that is.
I move any applications with widgets to my phone memory, because otherwise widgets don't work anymore if you reboot your phone.
@mortenmhp: But also a lot of people do not recommend to move the dalvikcache. Is it safe to do?
you're confusing a few things:
APPS2SD:
There are two methods used at the moment.
The Froyo method, made by Google, which you use at the moment. It installs the app on the phone memory and is able to outsource a small amount of data to the FAT32 partition on your SD-card. It does create failures with apps that use widgets or run in the background.
The A2SD+ method, integrated in DeFroST and almost every other custom ROM. You have to create an EXT3 partition on your SD card (use ROM manager for this) and then reflash the rom. After that it gets activated automatically. All apps and also the dalvik cache gets moved on the EXT3 partition on your SD card. You don't have to and you shouldn't move any apps around afterwards with the Froyo A2SD described above. Only some small data gets stored by the apps itself on the internal phone memory.
Moving the dalvik cache is safe. Maybe you confuse it with SWAP? Which isn't necessary on the HTC Desire.
ok, this is a little confusing
I'm running defrost
let's suppose that I installed the firefox app.
the diskusage tool tells me that it takes 13,4 MB in internal memory.
in applications settings, I have the option to move the app to sd card.
When I do this, my available memory does not change (102 mb)
Does that mean that firefox was already on the sd card ?
In that case how do I know what eats up my data storage ?
Thanks for precisions ?
Do you use A2SD+ together with an EXT3 partition.
If so, every app you install will get installed on the EXT3 partition on your SD-card together with the Dalvik cache, instead of your internal phone memory. If you move this app with the Froyo A2SD tool to the SD card then you'll move the app from the EXT3 partition to your FAT32 partition, stupid.
However, every app, while running, creates some temporary data files. Those files remain on the internal phone memory. And maybe Firefox mobile creates some huge data files, but the main app is installed on the EXT3 partition, now, because you moved it with Froyo A2SD, a small part is installed on the EXT3 partition and some part, the moved on the FAT32 partition. The created data remains untouched.
I had 106 MB free internal memory. Then I installed Firefox and still had 106MB free. I started Firefox, 103 MB free.
Diskusage tells me Firefox needs 2.81MB internal memory. 2.81MB of this is data.
In the Android app settings android tells me Firefox occupies 16.19 MB, 13.38 MB for the app, 2.81 MB data.
So those 13.38 MB are located on the EXT3 partition. If I move Firefox now, parts of the 13.38 MB get moved from the SD card to the SD card.
Ah, I get it now. Thank you very much. I did everything you said, so it should be ok now. So there is no need anymore to move apps, with widgets for instance, to the memory of the phone?
Thanks!
If you use app2sd with the ext partition now, then no, you don't have to move any app or widget around, and you shouldn't.
With Quick System Info you can check how much free space is left on your ext partition.
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Hi all,
I want any sense rom with data2ext because then i got many MB free for apps.
How do i do this and is the speed acceptable?
Thank you!
Nick
easy:
1. root(if you havent already)
2. format sd-card with ext partition(like with a2sd but mybe a bit bigger partition)
3. install any rom with data2sd installed
and from my experience, no the speed is not acceptable. You will be much better off using a2sd+ which also gives you plenty of space..
mortenmhp said:
easy:
1. root(if you havent already)
2. format sd-card with ext partition(like with a2sd but mybe a bit bigger partition)
3. install any rom with data2sd installed
and from my experience, no the speed is not acceptable. You will be much better of using a2sd+ which also gives you plenty of speed..
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yeah ok.
but i want many apps installed.. likely big games. and some games MUST be installed to the phone.. so with 10 apps my phone is fully full.
i always got like ~130mb internal.
but i want data2sd cause then you got many many mb free for apps.
+ when i installs an app and move it to my sd ext. it still leaves something on my internal memory wich takes space. so apps2sd still takes quite much space on internal memory.
so you all got this problem?
You are not understanding the difference between a2sd and froyo apps 2 sd. The last one being the one, where you can move apps freely.
The oldstyle a2sd+ moves both apps and dalvik cache to ext, so even though it says you have only gotten 130 mb, it will fill up very slowly. I myself have around 100+ apps installed including google earth and some games, and i have no problem..
edit: and no you cant move apps to ext. The app2sd in froyo is moving them to a special folder on the fat32 partition, while the oldstyle a2sd+ have the /data/app and /data/dalvik symlinked to the ext-partition, so apps will always be installed to ext using this method.
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You are not understanding the difference between a2sd and froyo apps 2 sd. The last one being the one, where you can move apps freely.
The oldstyle a2sd+ moves both apps and dalvik cache to ext, so even though it says you have only gotten 130 mb, it will fill up very slowly. I myself have around 100+ apps installed including google earth and some games, and i have no problem..
edit: and no you cant move apps to ext. The app2sd in froyo is moving them to a special folder on the fat32 partition, while the oldstyle a2sd+ have the /data/app and /data/dalvik symlinked to the ext-partition, so apps will always be installed to ext using this method.
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ok so i took leedroid.
and posted this in his thread:
hi all,
i got the apps2sd version.
and i got ext3 876MB.
But at the first page it says: lots of free internal memory! on the apps2sd version.
but i only got 133 mb internal mb free.
So i dont think thats much?
cause my apps cant move to sd.
some can but not all games.
so my space is limited and i really need much internal memory!!!
please someone help me!
Greetings,
Nick
EDIT: and how can i check if my apps and dalvik cache are thruly on my sdext?
OMG!
Please read my post over again.....
a2sd works by symlinking some folders to your sd-ext partition. This will NOT mean that your system will measure plenty of space. Just that those 2-3 folders will not take up space on the /data partition, so installing apps only leaves a little bit of data and thus only decreases the free space a tiny bit. 2 see this better try installing "quick system info" which will let you see how much of the sd-ext partition is used. Then go install a lot of apps and see, if this fills your phone. It should not(only a2sd storage in quick system info should be filling up).
and to check, if they are there, install an app like root explorer and check /system/sd which should show the folders present on the sd-ext partition("app","app-private" and "dalvik-cache")
Are you using a2sd+ at all or are you manually moving apps to SD via application manager?
data2ext still has not matured enough with relatively high risk of data loss atm. I have no doubt the devs are working hard on it, but it is not ready yet to go mainstream. AuraXTsense sported data2ext in 8.1., yet it has returned to good ol' a2sd. It simply is not stable enough.
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mortenmhp said:
OMG!
Please read my post over again.....
a2sd works by symlinking some folders to your sd-ext partition. This will NOT mean that your system will measure plenty of space. Just that those 2-3 folders will not take up space on the /data partition, so installing apps only leaves a little bit of data and thus only decreases the free space a tiny bit. 2 see this better try installing "quick system info" which will let you see how much of the sd-ext partition is used. Then go install a lot of apps and see, if this fills your phone. It should not.
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oke thanks man!!
trying now
erklat said:
Are you using a2sd+ at all or are you manually moving apps to SD via application manager?
data2ext still has not matured enough with relatively high risk of data loss atm. I have no doubt the devs are working hard on it, but it is not ready yet to go mainstream. AuraXTsense sported data2ext in 8.1., yet it has returned to good ol' a2sd. It simply is not stable enough.
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I dont know. just the leedroid 2.3b A2SD version.
Check my edit in the other post on how to check, if the folders are moved probably
hey everyone
i have rooted my phone and installed cyanongen mod7, the fact is that i followed the noobprrof tutorial, and as he stated i partitioned my sd card, i left 1 gb ( its a 4gb memory now its divided to 3 and 1 ), but i didnt know where did it go and why i did partition my sd card, i thought it would add up to internal memory but it didnt...
please can anyone tell me whats the purpose of paritioning it ?? and how can i let apps get installed on this paritioned part if its purpose is so...
thanks in advance
It's for a2sd, it doesn't add up in internal memory, if you want to check if it's there download quick sytem info from the market, it's purpose is to store apps on your sd(mainly, there's always some data left.) for example when i had stock 2.2 froyo on my desire non rooted, i couldn't have more than 165-170 apps, now i have 379 and ext is also for the rom itself, like a sense rom doesn't fit totally on the system partion, so the part which doesn't fit is on your sd
Hope you understand it
thank u, i actually understood wut ur saying
for instance, i have downloaded games and stuff, now the phone says that the phonememory is on low storage, i still have like 30 mb... i tend to move apps from phone to sd card...
incase all internal memory is used will it conitinue installing on the 1gb i have paritioned... and is it just a notification that doesnt effect anything...
i also would like to ask if i can i can automatically download & install the apps from the market on the sd card...
thanks again
ps: i checked the system info and yes it is there... a2sd 0.96gb and 0.9gb free
It's not just like that
If you install an app for instance google earth, it's around 24mb, 300-400kb will stay on your phone and the rest will go to that partition automatically, although some apps like this iBeer i installed is fully on sd, it depends, but if you're low on memory just move some apps manually to your sd(this doesn't make them move to the ext but fat32 partition(the part that windows can see). If you just insert a SD and applt android's app2sd not a lot of the app will go to the sd, on the other hand the a2sd implied in rom's doesn't give you limitless place till you sd is full. If you want that apply data2sd, that adds to the internal memory as you thought
the max apps you can put on your desire with a2sd is max 400 i think, as i can't move any app manually to sd, and i have 35mb left with 379 apps
hope u understand it even better now
ok i did move the apps 2 sdcard, but they are moved to the 3gb partition and not the 1gb partition which i cant see, i only want to know what is the purpose of this 1gb that i made due to the tutorial... since i cant move apps to it or even put files on via usb ( as music and stuff )... then why is it created... ??
ps : the 1 gb is ext4 the 3gb is the fat32
i really wish there was some thread explaining all , maybe i would have let ur life easier hehe, im sory but im new on android...
thanks again
What did you use to create the 1gb partition? Did you use something like mini partition .. under windows?
I had a hell of a time trying to get it to work this way (if you did) the solution i found was to get the gparted live cd (google it) and run the partitioning wizard on that and the auto apps2sd will work.
The point of doing it is that some roms need more space than the desire has, I'm using insert coin and it needs a proparly formatted ext3 to work to fit the whole rom onto the phone.
Have you checked using quick system info to see if the a2sd storage is being recognised?
hey amriving
actually i did divide my sd card with gparted, everythings going great, but the fact that i cant use the 1000 mb ext2 partition (app2sd) is wut im asking about... (total of 4gb memory)
i mean when i move the apps to sd card they go to the 3gb fat32 space i have, and not the 1gb i partitioned...
so what i want to know is what is the purpose of this (app2sd) 1gb ext2 partition, how can i use it
i checked the system info and i found that there is 0.96gb of the app2sd partition and there is free 0.9 gb,
i have cyanogen mod7 rom
and thanks for the reply
Don't move it to sd, i think you didn't understood me, it does it automatically, just install a app, look at it's size, then delete it, you'll see that not that size went away from your memory but much less
You can't use it through windows, only if you have linux you'll be able to see inside the ext also with root explorer( go to recovery and then mounts then press mount EXT )
And they go to the 1GB partition. There will be an android.secure in your sd with apps, but if it wouldn't work, i wouldn't have 55mb android.secure with 390 apps now! and just 100mb free on 1.4GB ext, Just don't question this anymore, download 100 apps, you'll see it very well then if you don't then you obviously have a problem
thanks everyone
android.secure is on 3gb fat32 not the 1 gb ext...
i also went to recovery its on mount sd ext...
guys what i want to know is why when moving the apps to sdcard, they are going to 3gb fat32 partition instead of 1gb ext4 partition...
is nt it supposed to go to 1gb ext4 partition ?! which is the reason every android user is doing for ... ?
i have checked the ap2sd and yes it is there
android.secure file is in 3gb partition not the 1gb ext4 partition
No no you didn't understand me, look normally with 160 apps would your phone memory be full, and your android.secure(on the 3gb partition) be large, now it shouldn't be very big anymore, because for example city story is 23mb, 1mb on phone memory and 22 on ext. normally this would be 5-10 mb on phone memory and remainder on the 3gb(fat32 partition) now this is most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
answer
F*S Even i, a noob understood it 3 times allready..
btw this answers my final question here
listen(more like read), i'll try to resimplify the answer for you, think of an android app as a windows app.
a windows app is Commonly installed in 3 - yes THREE seprate location at once!
1. Main Program Files - C:\program files\<APP NAME HERE>
this contains all the app's inner working, modules, GUI, sound, pictures and stuff - most of the app is located here so this folder is 'heavy'
2. appdata - C:\Users\<USER NAME HERE>\appdata\<Local \ Roaming>\<APP NAME HERE>
this may contain any setting, saves, projects, and temp files for the app to use.
so only some parts make it here - litewight but still takes up space..
3. Registry - run>regedit.exe
this is sort of a log file for all windows operation, installaions, apps location and sometimes even app settings
again litewight but takes place..
SAME WITH ANDROID - sort of..
an android app contains Resource Data - like program files, the 'exeutable', settings, modules, critical data for the exeutable and more..
and so when you use the traditional APPS2SD that comes Froyo+ ( settings>apps>google earth>move to SD/PHONE )
all the non-critical data and resources move to the SD fat32 patition.
all the remaining critical data, 'exeutable' and stuff remain on the internal memory which still takes up valuable internal space, that's where a2sd+ comes in, as mentioned before, a2sd+ again moves to rest of the remaining appdata to the ext, and only tiny critical part of the app remains on the internal memory - therefor you get to install many apps until you internal memory fills up or the ext fills up, this time only the absolute critical app files that cant be moved to the ext OR the fat32..
as TopGear63z said:
most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
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data2sd extends your internal storage..
a2sd+ lets you install more aps
EXPERTS: Please verify my answer as i am also a noob and this is my understanding on the subject, i maybe very wrong or very right
PS: Why double post
thankyou asaf400
actually i know all this and i really appreciate ur reply
but wut i wanted is to install apps on ext, and actually i found it i downloaded simple2ext app and now i have 150mb free internal memory, see now all apps are on ext part of the memory card... this is what i wanted to know...
thanks all
or you could just flash a data2sd based custom rom like droidzone's starburst or gingerburst... you'll get upto 2gb of internal memory from the start
Ok, i have just finished re-installing all my apps after flashing AceSMod007-3D, the first A2SD+ ROM i have used, and i am already running out of space. I have noticed that any "phone only" apps i download seem to be placed on the internal memory whilst anything movable seems to be placed on the EXT partition and doesn't decrease internal space at all. Is this how A2SD+ is supposed to work? Is my only option to free up more space to delete some of my phone only apps?
I've just rooted and installed AceSMod007 (v33) and im also confused by what goes to SD-Ext4 vs Internal... so far it is hitting Internal, although one app does have the SEND 2 SD option but not sure if that means to the FAT32 or Ext4 partition.
so well confused so far... im holding off customising the phone until i have a better idea.
Open titanium backup, it should show u system memory, internal memory, sd-ext memory and sd card memory..If the app2sd is working u should see that sd-ext is not empty
Leave away the SEND 2 SD option..this is the android stock move to sd, not the app2sd
Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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Its definitely sending apps that were already movable to the EXT partition, but i was under the impression that A2SD+ meant that apps that previously weren't movable would now be able to be spread over the EXT partition as well. If all it does is send the movable apps there automatically then its basically the same as stock A2SD, just without the need to move them yourself
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NO, that is the stock move to sd: mean a part of the app can be moved on the sd card fat32 partition, it doesn't allow every app to be moved, and the app is partially on the sd card
The a2sd move every app u install on the ext partition, is not in ur sdcard fat32 partition..it move completely the apk on the ext partition..so the space saved is enough (u will STILL see that the app can be moved on the sd card..but u HAVE to leave it on the internal memory to make the a2sd/a2sd+ fully work)
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
kazgor said:
ok .. but why does the Internal Memory indicate decrease (by megs) if it is installing on EXT. I can see my game is on SD-EXT/APP but Internal went down by 3megs.
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The data saved from each app (settings, preferences) is still on the internal memory /data/data so that probably is normal if the games need to save a lot of things
Btw how much is ur free internal memory?
its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
quick system info will show the a2sd size
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its now 108MB of 148MB, with only Mini Info and HyperJump Installed
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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Its definitely not just the data. one of the apps i install is 7.5mb and 450kb of data. it decreases the internal space by 7.95mb in total after an install, NONE of the app what so ever is going to the EXT partition, and i suspect there are several other apps doing the same thing
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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then? even if u uninstall hyperjump and mini info, u will see that u will never have 148 mb free!
try installing all of ur apps...u will see that it does't decrease too much
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yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
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yes.. from a fresh install of the ROM it started with around 111mb free, so yeah you are correct never will get the 148mb back.. but then the Stock Rom DID have 148mb free so that like 37mb lost from the get go.
Its all new to me this apsd+ stuff so i'll start install Apps and see how far i get, on stock i HAD to use Froyo "Send to SD" to get everything installed.
thanks.
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could it be you have a few extra bits thrown in (app wise) with your rom that is taking up extra space?
afaik apps2sd+ you should leave everything on internal
ok this was a good read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7458565&postcount=8
it kind of implies that because there a symbolic link from NAND/Apps to sd-ext/apps, the phone thinks apps are still internal so will reduce the freespace indicated in Settings --> SD & Phone Storage
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if u install from the market an application, it will be downloaded on ur internal memory..that the space that u see probably
restore all ur apps, and stop looking for a mb more or less..u will have lots of space available..if this is not the case then u did something wrong.
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Well obviously something is wrong, as i have installed around 30 apps and i'm already out of internal memory.
Space is limited. (at least the space in our phones)
so I always read about apps2sd, data2sd, link2sd. I'm confused about how all they work, which ist best way to go. the information to read is very diffuse so don't blame me if I open a thread to understand the backgrounds.
So, I installed an app called App2SD (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=de) and moved supported apps to SD.
Now there I have root, I want to get to know about alternatives. So what are the methods out there, what to stick to best?
thanks for your help in advance.
theq86 said:
Space is limited. (at least the space in our phones)
so I always read about apps2sd, data2sd, link2sd. I'm confused about how all they work, which ist best way to go. the information to read is very diffuse so don't blame me if I open a thread to understand the backgrounds.
So, I installed an app called App2SD (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=de) and moved supported apps to SD.
Now there I have root, I want to get to know about alternatives. So what are the methods out there, what to stick to best?
thanks for your help in advance.
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I prefer link2sd based on practical experience with all three methods.
I find it the most customizable and fastest although unlike the other two it's not a set it and forget it solution it allows for some definite benefits in terms of file placement and speed.
data2sd and data2whatever tend to bog down over time for some reason where as link2sd keeps up to speed. Lot's of nice features and a great user interface as well.
It's also easily reversible if you don't like it. I can't say the same for the other two.
Here's a link to the original developer's thread and a little tutorial.
Same, Link2sd never worked for me haha
just installed link2sd, after a lengthy process getting stock rom back from a bad CM7 experience....now have a happy healthy stock rom, perm rootedm with link2sd and virtually all apps on the 2nd sd partition. i've basically gone through the "my apps" list on my market account and "linked" everything that's on the market, and kept the rest (pre-installed/not available on the market?) on the internal memory.
internal mem is reporting 108mb free, and i have a little under 1gb on my sd's 2nd partition.
so far so good...touch wood....fingers crossed
so yeh, i'd vote for link2sd.....it also does seem fairly "automated" to me....whenever i download a new app, it automatically links it and moves it to the 2nd partition (although you can manually move it back to internal if you get roblems with a specific app).
Installed Link2SD now. I like it. thx +1 for you 2
I'd like to know how Data2SD handles over time. Using a single file seems a little monolithic but if it works you can't argue with results.
Haven't anyone tried S2E? It's completely automatic and you don't need to set up anything.
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Hey Dan,
I've never heard of the app, but a quick google search suggests it's made primarily for CM7. Link2SD does work well for the most part so I think it would be foolish to jump into something else. I've not seen the battery drain that some people have complained about too. The only real alternative for those trying to avoid custom ROM's is Data2SD, which I've heard mixed reviews about.
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Installed Link2SD now. I like it. thx +1 for you 2
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Huh? I thought your phone was bricked.
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Another +1 for link2SD
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Link2SD works fine except for the fact that some apps like maps and gmail cause problems when moved..
And when I start up my phone (no fastboot) it always says low internal memory and then Link2SD starts to link all apps which gives me about 60MB free space
mattio,
gmail causes problems? ive not observed a problem with gmail as of yet, what kind of problems?
Gloris said:
just installed link2sd, after a lengthy process getting stock rom back from a bad CM7 experience....now have a happy healthy stock rom, perm rootedm with link2sd and virtually all apps on the 2nd sd partition. i've basically gone through the "my apps" list on my market account and "linked" everything that's on the market, and kept the rest (pre-installed/not available on the market?) on the internal memory.
internal mem is reporting 108mb free, and i have a little under 1gb on my sd's 2nd partition.
so far so good...touch wood....fingers crossed
so yeh, i'd vote for link2sd.....it also does seem fairly "automated" to me....whenever i download a new app, it automatically links it and moves it to the 2nd partition (although you can manually move it back to internal if you get roblems with a specific app).
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Hi,
what is the ext that you have on the 2nd partition?
I have ext4 and the Link2SD don't recognize the 2nd partition.
Cump,s
I've been using Link2SD ever since I started using CM. It has been working well for me. No issues with Gmail or Maps. Even my home screen app and keyboard are on the external partition. I just set CM to always keep the home screen in memory. The SD partition is formatted as ext2 because I don't see the need for a journaling filesystem (ext4).
Edit - to contribute to the original question.
I'm not so sure about the other options but I can explain a bit about Link2SD.
Basically what it does is move your application files to the external partition and then create symlinks where those files originally were. Symlinks are tiny files that arejust pointers to where the actual files are. The good part is that the OS does not care. It just sees the symlinks as the actual files. Seeing that it is the actual files that are symlinked, means that you can fine tune it to your needs... as opposed to linking whole directories or mounting a partition to something like/data/app/.
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skezza said:
mattio,
gmail causes problems? ive not observed a problem with gmail as of yet, what kind of problems?
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When I move Gmail to 2nd partition (EXT2).
After reboot the app renames itself to com.google.android.gmail in the appdrawer
Gloris said:
just installed link2sd, after a lengthy process getting stock rom back from a bad CM7 experience....now have a happy healthy stock rom, perm rootedm with link2sd and virtually all apps on the 2nd sd partition. i've basically gone through the "my apps" list on my market account and "linked" everything that's on the market, and kept the rest (pre-installed/not available on the market?) on the internal memory.
internal mem is reporting 108mb free, and i have a little under 1gb on my sd's 2nd partition.
so far so good...touch wood....fingers crossed
so yeh, i'd vote for link2sd.....it also does seem fairly "automated" to me....whenever i download a new app, it automatically links it and moves it to the 2nd partition (although you can manually move it back to internal if you get problems with a specific app).
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Whenever I link a app to 2nd Partition it also reduces some of my internal memory. My Internal memory is now showing 81MB free. Can someone please guide what to do for increasing internal memory (i am a noob with rooted WFS)
ibne101 said:
Whenever I link a app to 2nd Partition it also reduces some of my internal memory. My Internal memory is now showing 81MB free. Can someone please guide what to do for increasing internal memory (i am a noob with rooted WFS)
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That's normal, some apps don't tell the internal memory that they were linked to the SD card.
Simply turn your phone off (hibernate) and turn it on again , this should give you the additional free memory
Link2SD
I've tinkered with Data2SD and A2SD also but just don't understand how they work. Wasted time restoring my SD card after wiping it out. Link2SD works perfectly but I see some ROM photos showing a ton of free internal space and can't seem to figure out a way to get that little bit of extra space.
ibne101 said:
Whenever I link a app to 2nd Partition it also reduces some of my internal memory. My Internal memory is now showing 81MB free. Can someone please guide what to do for increasing internal memory (i am a noob with rooted WFS)
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Try these steps:
1) Using Link2SD uninstall all the stock htc application that you dont like and dont need ( Most of them can be removed without any problem -> All widgets, google search, twitter, facebook , facebook for htc sense, plurk, htc likes, htc hub, xms ebuddy, stocks and many more, i forgot the names ).
You can always backup these using titanium backup if you are apprehensive.
2) Backup every application , contact and sms on your phone because we will cleanout our phone.
3) Now when you are ready boot into recovery and clean Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache. If possible also backup your sd card and format both fat32 and ext2 partitions .
4) Reboot and install Link2Sd, Mount ext2 partition and setup to link your files ( from settings ) then reboot and freshly install everything. You will find a hugh difference in internal memory
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I had 80mb internal memory free with 52 application installed, I did the above things and now i have 110mb free space with 60 apps installed which also includes updates of the remaining stock applications. However after doing all this dont move anything to sd card using your a2sd or applications will get corrupted
cyclonus00210 said:
I've tinkered with Data2SD and A2SD also but just don't understand how they work. Wasted time restoring my SD card after wiping it out. Link2SD works perfectly but I see some ROM photos showing a ton of free internal space and can't seem to figure out a way to get that little bit of extra space.
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Please follow my above tutorial, I am sure you will unleash true power of Link2SD
always lags when I use data2sd, it's very very slow. I use link2sd, no lags anymore
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