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To ROOT or not to root?

Just got my desire friday. It's awesome! But the lags are killing me! I'd like JIT, SetCPU, power managment, cool themes and better music player, that's all! It should be easy, just to hack android to get access to ROOT...
But seriously, I don't want to lose any settings and apps I've set-up. Also the process is complicated, and there is nothing like "one click ROOT access". Although I already have Android SDK(for testing purposes), I am maybe just a bit lazy
So what do you think, to root or not to root.

had to bump so fast!? is here anyone reading this?!

Desire forums seem kinda dead today. Everyone's probably got the World Cup fever lol
I personally would say no, but that's my opinion - I wouldn't wanna risk bricking my new device, I should also say though that I have no previous Android experience, so I don't know about you. So I'm waiting, hopefully an official release isn't too far off, and if my carrier doesn't release it quick, I will be goldcarding

I would go ahead and do it, even though the above poster stated that there is a strong possibility of bricking your device, this is true, but there have been recent developments made for this kind of issue - there are now complete guides in the ROM dev section detailing how to unbrick your device, or even run recovery from your phone without connecting to the PC lessening your chances of bricking it, and there is a Recovery mod also, so I would say it's safe to go ahead and root/flash.

Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.

Dany0 said:
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, if you attempt to a flash a custom rom that includes Apps2SD/A2SD, then you should backup the data on your SD card. The reason for this is because, with many (if not all) custom roms, excluding the Froyo roms, come with Apps2SD baked/cookef into the rom, requiring you to partition the SD card (which will also format your SD card, wiping everything) after flashing a custom rom. new rom then this will remove all data and apps, but nothing will be deleted on the sd card. I suggest you try backing up your sd card data to some storage media before attempting root and flashing to another rom.
You will notice that before flashing the rom of your choice, it is advised to wipe storage, cache, etc before flashing in recovery mode. After flashing, you can always perform a hard reset if you like, especially if you encounter any niggling bugs.
Yes, flashing will replace your stock rom image with the custom rom image.
You can flash Richard Trip's modified kernal, which allows you to perform undervolting and overclocking of the processor to run at faster or slower speeds. Overclocking will result in better performance but drain the battery quicker, Underclocking will save battery life.
Please read the second link in my sig for an in-depth explanation for rooting, flashing, and Apps2SD.
Note: if your phone is network branded then you will also be required a Gold Card and have an additional Micro SD card.
Note: if your rom comes with Apps2SD preinstalled, then do not install Apps2SD, only partition your sd card after flashing thr rom while still in recovery mode.
The process is:
Backup
Create Gold Card (if necessary)
Root
Place rom in root of sd card
Boot into recovery
Wipe everything
Flash rom in recovery
Partition sd card in recovery
Reboot
Restore backup to sd card.

That's all just too complicated, why is there no wizard application for it? I may make one, but it's still too complicated.
Can't you just open up cmd and type login: root pass: root?

To be honest, it's not too complicated, daunting at first, but when you read the nimbu guide (see my sig for Windows only method) for example, it makes perfect sense and it easy to follow. Just try it step-by-step and you will do it no probs.
All you have to remember is...
Dont install Apps2SD if it is already included in the custom rom you want to flash.
Create a Gold Card only if your phone is software branded. If it is generic, then you will not require a Gold Card.
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Ok I get myself a class 6(maybe class 10) 8gb card and try it, then I'll pick up wxPython and try to make a wizard

Just to add, for the Gold Card itself, you dont need to buy a large capacity sd card, even a 2GB one will do fine.
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I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
EDIT:
Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...

Dany0 said:
I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
EDIT:
Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
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Ok matey, that sounds absolutely fine. You could even go for a Class 2 SD Card. I currently have a Transcend 8GB Class 6 but to be honest, I have not really noticed any differences in speed with the applications.
Yes, it's not so bad when you read the guide first, it's looks a lot at first but it's just because all the steps are appropriately broken down, which makes things easier to understand. Give it a stab and if you get any problems, just post back here and I will help you out, if necessary.
Good luck

Dany0 said:
It's awesome! But the lags are killing me!
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag

in future froyo 2.2 will there be root option?

I doubt it, HTC and Google would not want to have you "hacking" their phones... not that we do that on XDA
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jimlad said:
is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
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unbranded
lagging everywhere, menus, camera, gallery, videos, games(especially), apps, market, browser, settings, sdcard explorer, music player, and when you swipe over the trackball in home screens fast... LAG
Okay I got stuck at error 170, where do I download the drivers? I don't even know which do I need, do I need the HTC Sync or what? Or should I uninstall some drivers?
thanks

Yes, you need HTC Sync installed (this is on your sd card or you can download the latest version via HTC website). Also, ensure that you have USB debugging enabled (Menu > Settings > Applications > Development).
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Hi All,
my 2p worth (for what it's worth)
I rooted my desire and installed apps2sd and all was going well, until I discovered dust (a lot)under my screen and it has to go back to voda.
As there still isnt an RUU for voda uk I have had to install a generic wwe rom. It took me 6 hrs, and the fantastic help I received at modaco, to unroot and reflash the rom.
To say it was brown trouser time is an understatement lol
The only reason I rooted was for apps2sd and seeing as FroYo is going to include that facility, I don't think I will root again in the future.
I'm not saying don't root, but just make sure you can unroot if you need to.
I hope this helps?
Daz.

I rooted the same day it came out but only because i wanted paid apps available. And now its there i definately do not wanted to unroot
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got 155 unkown error
What!?
EDIT:
not bricked.... phew
EDIT2:
Okay got to the wiping, tried to do the flash but it said I had no zip file on the sd card, so I thought that in the end I need a goldcard, btw can someone tell me what happens if you have branded phone but no goldcard? thanks, so back to what I was writing, so I downloadedthe hex editor, almost got to inserting the image, when i remembered that I already formatted the card already... boom! Of course it wasn't there! soo.. loading up hoping that FAT32 is still okay...
EDIT3:
phew... ROOTING!! yay ^^

[Q] newbie has rooted, which Rom is best for a newbie ?

Hi all, my first post here, i cant help it but i am nearly 65, bald and retired !.
I treated myself to a Desire last week, un-branded, £10 month with Tescos.
I have been Rooted a few days now, i want to Flash a Rom next, but with so many out there, where do i start ?.
At a guess i do believe i should try CyanogenMOD 7 , but please bear in mind i am completely new to this Smartphone business and i am slow in picking things up, so is "CM7" a bit too much for my grey matter, or am i putting obsticles in the way that dont really exist !
I was very pleased with my faultless rooting, and i have rehearsed the Rom Flashing continuosly using Rom Manager which looks as if it does all the dirty work for me.
If there is a ROM for noobies i havent found it yet !!!!
Tim

You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.

TheGhost1233 said:
You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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Hi Mr Ghost, i am well pleased somebody replied, CM7 is simply the one that crops up the most. The word Sense, does this by any chance mean HTC Sense ? so if a Rom doesnt have Sense that must mean it doesnt have many or any of the features that make my current ROM more friendly to use.
If CM7 doesnt have SENSE does that mean that the keyboard doent do Landscape mode ?
LEEDROID yeah i could have a go at that one, TA ......... i dont really want to have to partition my SD card, i read about a Goldcard if you partition etc. which doesnt sound v. good.
O yes, i found that Rom Manager Backs Up my original ROM and Wipes, does it ONLY wipe the phones memory ?
thanks for you help
tim

Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)

TheGhost1233 said:
Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Thanks, so it is LEEDROID for starters thanks buddy, i still dont know what a Goldcard is though, perhaps i dont need to know LOL.
One small problem, LEEDROID isnt available in the list of roms in Rom Manager, i suppose i shall have download it "manually" and get it in the relevant Rom Manager Folder, great sorted i should be able to do that.
I have Titanium Backup Pro as well so its best if i Backup "All user apps" that should be sufficient, yeah ? and itll be no good Backing up ANYTHING ELSE, becuase if restored it would mess up LEEDROID, am i correct with that assumption ?
tim

Yes i would say start with Leedroid.
Best thing is to only back up user apps, i never back up anything else. Most likely it will mess something up.
The goldcard is only needed when using a RUU with branded devices, for normal flashing you don't need one.
Just download the Leedroid noA2SD version and put in on your sd, not in any folder just on the sd. Then in rom manager go to install rom form sd and find the zip file.
Edit: looks like the site went down, here's another link. http://db.tt/FBKcMZD

Thanks for that info pal, youre a star.
I havent seen any mention on this site (although i havent searched for it yet) of the battery not lasting very long, however, off topic i suppose, and you can bollock me for that if you like,:-
for internet on my Desire at home i always use my home WiFi, my off topic question is, does WiFi take more out of the battery than using my Providers GSM/WCDMA connection ? i have hardly made a dent on my Providers Data allowance.
tim

What uses more power depends a bit on how strong your 3g signal is, if it's weak it will probably use more power on mobile data and if it's strong, wifi will use more data but this is no gonne make a significant difference on your battery life.
Usually the battery life gets better after some time, also let your battery drain once until the phone powers itself off and then charge it, while it's off, till it's full. Then use it normally again.

Absolutely brilliant Pal, thanks for sticking with me answering my questions for the last hour or two, it was really good of you thanks.
I will definitely try that with my battery next time it needscharging up, thanks.
I will report back tommorrow whether or not i still have a fully functioning phone, LOL. i feel far more confident about "doing it" now, afterall i'm not likely to be "doing it" with anything else ROFL !!!
tim

phew i had difficulty in locating the file, i eventually found the Leedroid Rom here
http://leedroid.com/bravo-roms
I also saw a "radio" file for the same Rom, dam, i have downloaded the latest version and will put it on my SD card the same place as the Rom file in the ROOT directory.
Until i got an Android Phone, i had only used Windows in all it's various versions, of course in Windows, the word ROOT simply means the Top (or bottom?) of the Folder Tree
but of course the same word can mean several hundred pounds when getting it wrong
PS.. do i need to do anything with this extra feature:-
•Re-added “Mod install location” to No A2SD build•
Tim

Root of the sd means not in a folder.
If you are currently on android 2.2 there is no real need to change radio. If you do change radio make sure you are absolutely sure what you are doing.
And you shouldn't have anything to do regarding the mod installation location.
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Thanks that is what i was trying to say !.
Ok on the other two things, ta
Tim

Leedroid Flashed yippee
Thanks for all your help Mr Ghost, i am happily using the Leedroid Rom now, all went smoothly, the battery is still going down preety quickly, i am getting a new battery from HTC any day now, which may perform better than my original ?, but at least i shall have a spare LOL.
Tim

Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?

germsandbugs said:
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!

williamj1 said:
Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim

timmy toad said:
Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html

williamj1 said:
No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim

timmy toad said:
Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples

williamj1 said:
Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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AAAhhhh, Now you have completely befuddled me !, i dont know what you mean by N1 table table scripts in terminal etc.
I think i will stay as i am thanks, i am not quite so serious at getting my hands dirty as most of you are !. LOL
tim

LeeDroid Problem

Hi everyone i rooted my phone last night for the first time with LeeDroid, all that seemeed to happen was that it went back to the way i got the phone in the first place
I dont have Market, and if im honest i have no idea what to do
Can anyone help at all please ?
Thanks
Phil

Would i be better just downloading the 2.4 rom and trying that ?
How will i know that the ROM is installed correctly as like i said before it just seems like a new phone i got straight out the box ?
thanks

When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?

Matty Matt said:
When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?
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Honest answer , dont know
i think i rooted it correctly using Revoked, or it appeared like it did
in the software info on the phone it has this which to me means nothing but to someone it will
android 2.2
kernel version
2.6.32.15_leedroid_2.3 [email protected] # 1
software number
LeeDroid_V2.3d
Can you help ? thanks

That is a successful flash mate by the looks of it. Of course you lose all apps and settings after flash, and as far as I know leedroid is a sense Rom, so it looks very similar to what you got out of the box, but now you can mod it and flash different kernels and scripts, like data2ext.
Oh, and regarding market, just search for market apk and install it the way you'd install any app.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

LeeDroid looks and feels like a stock rom but with added extra bits, and speed.
you can overclock or underclock with setcpu run rooted apps.
the good thing about LeeDroid is that it looks familiar so it's a good starter rom to play about with. if you want something other than sense try a Miui rom or Redux.

Ive got 2.4 now but i have 2 issues
1. the market force closes when i select an app
2. when adding the htc people widget it lists no people in where they usually
Thanks

Now my SD card is saying Mounted Read only ?
any ideas ?

did you make an ext partition and a full wipe?
I don 't have any issues with this rom

Yes and i just tried to go back to delete and redo a new partition but its not showing only my pc is ???

i just reset it and now im getting the leedroid background i wasnt getting before , ive had to setup everything back from the beginning , facebook passwords etc
market is now working but im still getting the mounted read ony error

Either corrupt card or bad partitioning. Just partition it in recovery and search for ext align tool on Baadnewz blog. Google is your friend.
If partitioning doesn't help, try different card.
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ok sorted that last issue but how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.47gb
and on the internal it only says 129mb
why is this ?

What was the fix for the last issue? If you don't provide full info we won't know where it could have fine wrong.
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tinky i partitioned it as you said in recovery but then i couldnt get past the loading screen with the joker on it aftwerwards
So i went back into recovery and i had to do a restore that was the only way i got it working and the memory card issue also vanished
Now its working properly should i backup my current ROM in ROM manager ?
what else do i need to do to make sure i dont **** it up in future ?
Also how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.46gb
and on the internal it only says 116mb

How much space you assigned to ext? Also, not all roms support ext4, so if you did use align tool, then quite possibly that your Rom just can't see ext partition. Solution, partition again but this time don't use align tool which will convert any ext partition to ext4.
Regarding not loading after partitioning that is sort of expected, restore done the trick for you. Regarding not getting into this situation again, once you get it right just use recovery to do nandroid and ext backup, and keep it safely on pc, in case you need to change SD card. Then you just partition new card and do restore.
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Brilliant , thanks Tinky

Did it work?
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Anyone having issues on the latest Leedroid 2.4 with apps that have been updgraded from in-app billing?
Have one app (quota) which is now disabled due to the fact that the upgrade is now in progress whereas it worked fine on 2.3d.
The app dev suspects it is ROM and market related as other stock ROM users haven't had the same issue.

[Q] MT Slide3G w mod9 no sd card cant download apps help pls!

Hello all, I have refered to this site many times and now need assistance with my MT3G
First off, thank you zeubea and the rest for all your work. I tried to ask my question in the developers section but...
I hope you see this post and can guide me along.
Background: I'm ok w pc's, have built and repaired/recovered my own for sometime. But this phone stuff is new teritory to me.
I got my slide mebbe 3 yrs ago? But as phones go I have yet to find one that I like as much. The key board captures my hunt n peck thumb style intuitivly. The weight and feel, and size, seems as right as can be, for me. The only thing I disliked was the carrier
I had studied, and studied this site and others trying to learn how to root. This isnt the best phone to learn on huh lol. So after asking several associated at outlet malls (soory, we can't assist you with that type of request) I found a guy at a pc store that confidently said "no problem, we can take care of that for you." Awesome! The price, $120 US. worth it to me.
2 weeks later, my phone was ready. He did great, I will lay out the specs below. But, when I asked if he could now do it again for less having done it once, his reply was " man, that was a @#$&^, I wont do it again, you have the only one that will come from our shop, but I assure you that you wont find anything like it at starbucks..." Wow...
So first, heres what I have, and then my problem..
Build number is: cm_espresso-userdebug 4.0.4 IMM76L
eng.zuebea.20120618.005058 test-keys
Version: 9-20120617-UNOFFICIAL-espresso
That probably tells you alot of where the phone is. In its apps screen I see dev toolsrom manager and superuser, along with several others.
The phone appears to function as described by the others at the same stage ie: the fn key works as long as it is held when using, no keyboard backlight wifi calling f/c's 4 times upon boot up (I LUV that little guy ) Screen keyboard a bit cut off etc...
So my problem: I was not provided a sdcard when I received my phone. Coulda sworn there was an 8 gb in it when I left it, but oh well. I have a new 8 gb sd card, sandisk. but dont know what to do. I dont want to lose the work that went into this phone. But I cant seem to download any apps from the market or play store
ALSO, I dont currently have a sim card, I plan on getting a pay as I go plan when I get this figured out.
I am unsure about the whole partitioning the sd card thing, as well as how to do it, and wether it is done with cwm or what? The guy who did it suggested titanium back up, but again, cant download. ( Yes I do have wifi at home and it connnects and browes internet superbly)
I have formatted the sd card to fat32, and see all sorts of apps running in cache.
I believe that is about it. I know this is a long read, but I wanted to be clear so you could assist. Thank you...
EDIT: I was assured that we did get S off..,.

update
New guy still here, and for all my reading, I dont feel my confidence level has increased any as far as messin with this phone. I kno I can do it once it all makes sense and maybe after a run thru it will seem easy.... "sigh", any input from you who have been there done that will be greatly appreciated.
Since my above post (this makes #2, 8 to go ), heres whats progressed.
I bought a T-Mob pay as you go SIm card and can now call and text with my phone. That much seems to work fine. I have a 8 gb micro sd card installed which was formatted fat 32 on my pc first. Befor I got the sim card, the phone would appear to download apps but they would never actually load, just went thru the motions. Now, with the sim installed, I get this dialog box from google stating several possible reasons that I'm not getting nothing from them at this time. Well I think I know what the problem is, just dont know how to fix it, which brings me to the last bit of update to include. I was able to get a reply from zeubea himself, and tho it was short and sweet, and I appreciate that he took time at all to assist, I am in need of help understanding what to do...
zeubea said:
it is possible you have to reinstall the last version of cm9 for espresso and gapps, with proper wipes of /data /system and dalvik chache an /sdcard partitioning is no necessary for a testing setting. /sdcard partitioning is made with CWM
check in CWM thread in espresso threads or in other more active thread of similar devices as legend, wildfire s or aria.
I am working at ///////////// and this is the help I can give you. Greets.
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So I am guessing its gapps that is preventing me from downloading apps. What I am asking for is a step by baby step proceedure, taking me by my hand and guide me thru all this so I learn without messing up. Please, if anyone can make sense of all this and assist, I'll be the most humble student ever...:angel:
Thank you...

As far as I am aware you don't need to root the phone after its been rooted (unless you flash T-mobile's kernel .. but lets not get ahead of ourselves). Rooting unlocks the phone's admin and allows you to install and uninstall things you wouldn't be able to without admin control. However, rooting does NOT unlock a network locked phone. There are some ways to do this I'm sure, but rooting a phone itself would not automatically unlock it from a network if it was locked to begin with. Now lets assume your phone is both rooted and network unlocked. Now you can install custom ROMS (Operating Systems), etc.
I would highly recommend you download Cyanogenmod over other custom ROMs in terms of stability, ease of use and beginner-user friendly. You can get it here -> link. This guide by the CM team gives full instructions -> link.
Most custom ROMs come without the Google Apps. To download and install apps, you need Google Play Story (previously known as Google Market), though other ways to install exist as well but are slightly more complicated. When you install a custom ROM, in most cases, you also need to install Google Apps AFTER installing the ROM. You do this the same way as installing a ROM, through CWM (Clockwork Mod recovery). Do you know how to do this? Read the guide above for details. Depending on what Android Version you have, you need to download the appropriate gapps (Google Apps) file and flash (i.e install) that after the ROM. This should install Market (or as its now known, Play) on your phone and will let you install apps.
You don't need an SD card to install. But this phone is notorious for its small space. Just turn the phone off (to be safe), take the battery cover off and insert an SD card into the phone. After boot, it should recognise and be able to use your card normally. It will not effect anything and you can move some apps to your SD card to save some space. However, this doesn't save as much as possible and so some users partition the SD card and use Apps or scripts to make the phone use the SD card as an extension of its phone memory and free up space.
I know whats a lot of information but do have a look at the link and then if you have any more questions, ask. Its quite easy to root and you really shouldn't have to pay someone (especially such a high amount) just to root your phone.
I hope I've been helpful. If so, don't forget the Thanks button!

[Q] Space usage on internal phone memory

Hi, So I got a new HTC One x yesterday (32 GB.
When I go to the storage menu, I can see that 4.98 GB out of 6.76 GB of the total App storage has been used.
For the used space it says:
Apps 289 MB
Other 4.70 GB
Available 1.78 GB
My question is, what is under the space for Other (4.70 GB!). It seems a lot and I can not find a way to check whats there.
The phone storage is fine with 1,25 GB used from 25,24 GB.
Thank you.

The ROM takes some space I think.

Wow, I did not realize that the ROM is that large - almost 5 GB. :crying: Thanks.
TToivanen said:
The ROM takes some space I think.
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haitnz said:
Wow, I did not realize that the ROM is that large - almost 5 GB. :crying: Thanks.
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Yeah that's shocking never noticed that till now, I though the rom would only be around 1gb.
Sent from venom injected one x

Ok, so I guess this 8 GB is not so much and soon I will have to start installing apps to the 32 GB phone memory.
I guess the full rOM data shoudl stay there, at least until I root the phone?

Even with a custom ROM installed it comes up with "misc" taking up 3.88gb, when the rom was only ~ 180mb. Strange!

Thats even more strange! Perhaps its just a hoax to hide the fact that there is actually less memory in the phone . Well that's a joke ... probably, hopefully ....
I am sure there must be folks around here, who can and would be interested to get to the bottom of this and also find out if it is possible and reasonable to somehow free more space from under the "mysteriously" occupied "misc" line.
I tried to access the data directories in the phone own memory using simple browsing tools (ES File explorer) but with the factory ROM and without root, I could not make much sense of this.

Is there anybody, who has further input to this? Thanks in advance.

Same problem
I have the same issue. Just did a full wipe then installed latest ViperX rom and get the same result: 4.73GB of 'Other' storage, and cant work out what its used for
Is this normal?

Finally find this section...
Recently got an HOX (very cheap,) so decided to gave the HTC another chance. Had before issues with One S and few other devices.
Back to topic. Installed all my favorite apps and then, browsing phone came to Storage and saw this "Other" with 4.69GB taken out from Total.
First I thought some of my stuff, but realised that phone is brand new and nothing else installed except apps.
Also when turned it on , it was on 4.0.3 and within 24 hours got several updates (vary btwn 8MB to 369MB) until it stopped on 4.1.1 (JB-WOW).
I haven't look at Other when first booted up, so can't say it was same size or not.
Now I see you guys have same "issue" so I am ok for now...
But if this space is for OS, I hope the Android 5.x will fit in to reserved 6.61GB ?
Oh, and one more thing; the Storage is 26.58GB (phone is clean yet as nothing installed).

Every form I have read on this issue, people have said they have at most 7gb used up by "other" mine on my HTC one is 23.3GB but I can't where that is I have the VIPERONE rom. Any help is welcome

Dafer12 said:
Every form I have read on this issue, people have said they have at most 7gb used up by "other" mine on my HTC one is 23.3GB but I can't where that is I have the VIPERONE rom. Any help is welcome
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Wrong phone...wrong forum...old thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115