[Q] Can I do the maintenance update with different kernel? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

Hopefully it's not a dumb question but I can't find the answer anywhere else.
I have a rooted phone w/ CWM and faux's kernel.
No 3rd party ROM installed.
I got the update today. Can I install the update with the kernel or will that do bad things to my phone?
Do I have to go back to a stock kernel and recovery to do that update or is going back to a stock kernel good enough?
I don't mind losing root, I can always reroot it. I just don't want to do something stupid to my phone.

knurdle said:
Hopefully it's not a dumb question but I can't find the answer anywhere else.
I have a rooted phone w/ CWM and faux's kernel.
No 3rd party ROM installed.
I got the update today. Can I install the update with the kernel or will that do bad things to my phone?
Do I have to go back to a stock kernel and recovery to do that update or is going back to a stock kernel good enough?
I don't mind losing root, I can always reroot it. I just don't want to do something stupid to my phone.
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You definitely have to go to stock recovery...i also went back to stock kernel too..then applied them back without error after update
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Thanks, another possibly stupid question.
Is there only one stock recovery or are there different versions between the UVKL1 and UVKID recovery?
Will this recovery work with my UVKL1 phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319830

It's the same. To prevent having issues, I recommend doing a factory reset before flashing back to stock.
Just back up whatever you don't want erased. You don't have to worry about the external sd, the reset won't touch that.
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Can you flash a different kernel after installing the latest update? Yes. Should you if you want a flawless ICS update this Monday and possibly avoid a brick? Probably not. Up to you.

Simply put, NO. As mentioned above Odin fully back to unrooted stock for he update to flash properly. Otherwise you'll have a soft brick on your hands.
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Can we just flash a stock rom and Odin the update? Is their a tutorial somewhere on the easiest way to get the uvdle update
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tdizzle404 said:
Can we just flash a stock rom and Odin the update? Is their a tutorial somewhere on the easiest way to get the uvdle update
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You can just Odin the update from where you are now. Just super wipe first.
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Towle said:
You can just Odin the update from where you are now. Just super wipe first.
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everytime i odin the update i have to pull battery cuz it bootloops..then boot into recovery wipe cache and dalvik then reboot and it boots. is that normal?

tdizzle404 said:
Can we just flash a stock rom and Odin the update? Is their a tutorial somewhere on the easiest way to get the uvdle update
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Also, if you're on ICS right now, you may get boot loops after flashing back to stock. Just do a factory reset in recovery and you're good to go.
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k786 said:
everytime i odin the update i have to pull battery cuz it bootloops..then boot into recovery wipe cache and dalvik then reboot and it boots. is that normal?
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It depends what you're coming from and how/if you wiped your phone.
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Towle said:
It depends what you're coming from and how/if you wiped your phone.
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i was gonna follow these steps..
superwipe
wipe cache dalvik
power off
go to download mode
odin stock
are those fine? or do you recommend some other steps?

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k786 said:
i was gonna follow these steps..
superwipe
wipe cache dalvik
power off
go to download mode
odin stock
are those fine? or do you recommend some other steps?
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That looks fine. If you're on ICS and reboot after wiping to get into download mode, some apps will automatically install on first boot so you will get boot loops after you flash back to stock. That's fine if you do, just do a factory reset in recovery.
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Just as a follow up to my own thread.
I followed this guide to go back to stock and then did the maintenance update.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/16727-howto-restore-stock-rom-recover-bad-flashes/
I backed up everything just in case but I didn't lose any data and it took about 10 minutes to do everything.
I'm just going to run stock until I get ICS and then reroot again.

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Will flashing CWM recovery affect getting an OTA?

My understanding is that recovery stays in a separate partition and whatever you do to it does not affect getting an OTA, is that right?
Also, what if my phone is rooted using the Zerg exploit or whatever method, can I still get an OTA?
So basically I think my questions is, what ultimately decides whether my phone can get an OTA, or not?
if you are on stock ROM, you will get it just fine
but you might loose ROOT after it finish the upgrade
if you are on Custom ROM, you wont get OTA
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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mikeyinid said:
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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You can flash stock recovery using odin
Towle said:
How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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I'm sure within a couple days there will be a custom rom with the new features. that's an assumption but its always been like that on other phones I have had. Hopefully that's the case with this phone also.
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
513263337 said:
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
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you will get the notification for the ota, your phone will download it but when it boots into recovery to flash it and its not the stock recovery, it will just give an error and you will probably have to pull the battery to reboot. i did this on the nexus s. if i remember right i never got the ota notififcation again either after it failed.
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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jasontx said:
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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It goes to data/cache if I remember right. And there will be rooted roms posted within hours of the ota so its really nothing to even worry about
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513263337 said:
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
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There is a stock recovery posted in the dev section you can flash in Odin
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Found that and it works. Thanks!
you can keep your phone more up to date by flashing roms as opposed to waiting for an OTA. galaxy s4g is still stuck on froyo. Epic 4g just got gingerbread.
Has has anyone received the update?
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Has has anyone received the update?
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Not yet. I went back to stock last night just in case so I hope its today like Tmobile said
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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They tweeted it a while back. Today our phone and the amaze are suppose to get an update
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Last I heard it was the 13th, oh well who knows lol
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What is the update supposed to do or fix?

[Q] Phone stuck on Samsung boot after stock restore help?

Hey my samsung galaxy s3 was bricked when I tried installing a kernal for a jb rom and I restored it to stock in odin.
Right now its just stuck on the Samsung Boot logo and the blue led is shown but it wont boot up. What do i do?
Reflash. By chance, can you get into recovery?
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No, not at all. When i hold volume up + power + home it vibrates twice and turns off and does the same thing when I hold it which makes it turn on. I can get to download mode though
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Use the ota in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895100
It's lg1 then just accept the ota after you do it to get to lh9.
Sounds like you just flashed a bad ota.
smokin1337 said:
Use the ota in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895100
It's lg1 then just accept the ota after you do it to get to lh9.
Sounds like you just flashed a bad ota.
Ok i have an AT&T galaxy s3 so i just download the Calg1 and then download a Bell image and follow the instructions?
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Ok so ive finished the installation of the CALH1 on odin but my phone is still on the boot logo. What do i do now?
Not lh1 here:
Flash this in odin: http://d-h.st/u2B <<< AT&T lg1
Thats the image i used to get back to stock with root. After that flashes the system will boot and say there is an update if you want the latest os then install rootkeeper from play store and run it that will preserve root. Once you run rootkeeper accept the update and that will get you to lh9 the latest os.
smokin1337 said:
Not lh1 here:
Flash this in odin: (had to remove the link to post) <<< AT&T lg1
Thats the image i used to get back to stock with root. After that flashes the system will boot and say there is an update if you want the latest os then install rootkeeper from play store and run it that will preserve root. Once you run rootkeeper accept the update and that will get you to lh9 the latest os.
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The install finished and my phone is still on the samsung boot logo after it rebooted from flashing the image the. I've been waiting for it to come to the home screen but it hasn't done anything but glow. Any other options..?
Did you try to flash the stock rooted kernel for your phone?
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liltitiz said:
Did you try to flash the stock rooted kernel for your phone?
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No, not yet i cant really get into clockwork recovery at all if you read my post above. I got into this whole mess by flashing a kernal on a jb rom whe i was rooted and i probably shouldnt have because it bricked my phone. But ive done almost everthing above and now im willing to do anything to get my phone back up and running. Will flashing the kernal for it fix it?
Yes, if you can find a way to enter download mode flash a stock rooted kernel and a stock ROM. You may need a jig to enter download mode
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liltitiz said:
Yes, if you can find a way to enter download mode flash a stock rooted kernel and a stock ROM. You may need a jig to enter download mode
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I can enter download mode without a problem all i need is the kernal you said which would possibly fix my phone.
The lg1 update i gave you has the boot.img (kernel) with it. It is everything, boot.img, system, modem, etc. Sounds bad but are you sure you are using odin correctly ?
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The lg1 update i gave you has the boot.img (kernel) with it. It is everything, boot.img, system, modem, etc. Sounds bad but are you sure you are using odin correctly ?
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Yes I think so, i run odin with administator tick auto reboot and F. Reset time click PDA and located the root69.stock_ATT_I747UCALG1.tar (the old boot img you gave me) and connect my phone while it is in downloading mode and press start. Is that right?
You need to find a way to wipe
Data and cache and dalvik
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liltitiz said:
You need to find a way to wipe
Data and cache and dalvik
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Can you even do that on a bricked phone? Is there a program I can do it through? I can't load my clockwork recovery at all.
Did you try the toolkit?
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Hope this helps. I had a similar issue once where the phone gets stuck at the Samsung logo. What I did was booted into stock recovery and did a wipe cache and wipe data. The phone booted up successfully after that.
U can also flash CMW through ODIN and do all the wipes (dalvik,cache and data) and I'm pretty sure ur phone will boot up.
liltitiz said:
Did you try the toolkit?
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A toolkit for the phone? Im still a little new to the android terms but could you link me to the toolkit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28175077
Here you go
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Jelly Bean HELP! Please Help! :)

Hi everyone. I am on the stock rom UVALH2, rooted, with a custom kernel. Can someone please help me flash back the proper kernel so I can update to JB?!
I will be in debt to you forever..
I just tried the OTA update to the newest kernel which failed and brought me to CWM. What do I need to do here?
You must be UVALJ4 to use the ota.
I suggest using odin w/ the fw I have in my fw/ota thread.
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Chicago281 said:
Hi everyone. I am on the stock rom UVALH2, rooted, with a custom kernel. Can someone please help me flash back the proper kernel so I can update to JB?!
I will be in debt to you forever..
I just tried the OTA update to the newest kernel which failed and brought me to CWM. What do I need to do here?
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Just Odin to the rooted JB. TMO T999UVDLJA. Make sure you do factory wipe after install!!!!
You can get it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
mattedwards2686 said:
Just Odin to the rooted JB. TMO T999UVDLJA. Make sure you do factory wipe after install!!!!
You can get it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
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I've never used ODIN before. Can you give me the newbie play by play book? Download Odin, flash the TMO T999UVDLJA 4.1.1 image?
Chicago281 said:
I've never used ODIN before. Can you give me the newbie play by play book? Download Odin, flash the TMO T999UVDLJA 4.1.1 image?
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My FW thread has step by step instruction.
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I'll have to try that. I flashed my old UVALH2 kernel back and then went to update. Downloaded the 335mb file but the signature verification failed and it booted to CWM. Is it because I am rooted or not on the latest UVAXXX?
Just go to Samsung updates download the whole Odin tar and just Odin it.. That's the best way
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Faster to download it from my thread. Plus root66 is out too!
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Found the FW thread. Need help extracting the .tar from the .7z file I downloaded. I also have Odin ready to go as well.
I'm a little confused here guys. I'm on Doc's Firmware thread and I've downloaded Odin. I also have downloaded root66_TMO_T999UVDLJA.7z . However I'm stuck on how I extract the .tar file from that?
Www.7zip.org
Download and install 7zip and use it to extract.
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Okay doing that now. Now it seems when my phone is in CWM odin doesn't pickup/recognize the phone. However when the phone is on normally odin detects it.
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Going to do a full rundown so anyone can help me here. When I originally rooted the phone I used some type of tooklit (Looked like a green version of MS-DOS). I've always had the stock rom. I've always used CWM to flash different kernels. Right now in About Phone I'm on baseband T999UVLH2 with kernel version [email protected] #1
I'm trying to get Jelly Bean 4.1 as a clean install. Not worried about keeping root at the moment either. I have root66_TMO_T999UVDLJA.tar.md5 downloaded which I am trying to push through Odin. However when I reboot my phone into CWM and connect the USB cable Odin doesn't recognize my phone. I'm willing to try anything at this point as this is frustrating me beyond belief.
You need download mode not recovery.
Same procedure but vol down instead.
Hold volume down, home and power to boot into download mode. Press vol up when prompted. Then odin will work.
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I feel so stupid.. Thank you for that as well! (Can I buy you a beer?) Okay I did that Odin is now pushing root66_TMO_T999UVDLJA.tar.md5. After this is done will Jelly Bean be on the phone? Should I wipe anything to get rid of the old firmware/files?
Success! Android 4.1.1 is now running with what appears to be the most updated kernel/baseband! Now should I do any type of wipe to get rid of any old files that could slow the phone down? What happens to the old firmware stuff?
Chicago281 said:
I feel so stupid.. Thank you for that as well! (Can I buy you a beer?) Okay I did that Odin is now pushing root66_TMO_T999UVDLJA.tar.md5. After this is done will Jelly Bean be on the phone? Should I wipe anything to get rid of the old firmware/files?
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factory wipe after install, then u should be good to go.
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factory wipe after install, then u should be good to go.
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Factory wipe under CWM? Will it make me lose my apps/contact info? I suppose I could always do a titanium backup.
Factory reset wiil wipe apps and user data. Not necessary but I do recommend it when updating android. Just makes for reduced potential for problems.
Reset in cwm or twrp does not wipe internal sd. Stock recovery will though.
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If you downloaded the root66 zip file you just use winrar and choose extract. It will or at least should unzip to its own folder. After that just follow the directions to use Odin.

My GS3 is really having problems.

I took my stock GSIII and rooted and installed hyperdrive, but texting was really awful, and battery was bad so I proceeded to reinstall. Didn't work. So I flashed one of the rooted stock firmwares from the root no tripping flash counter thread. Now its worse. i cant get in to the app drawer it always just says that android.core or something like that has stopped and proceeds to kick me out. At this point I am done and just want to have rooted stock then use triangle away and then flash pure stock and end up with a good warranty, pure stock phone, any help?
Did you wipe your cache/data factory reset every time you flashed?
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Yes.... Even Odin flashes give me that same trouble
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blu422 said:
Yes.... Even Odin flashes give me that same trouble
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So did you do a factory reset when you Odin back to stock with the rooted stock .tar file?
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So did you do a factory reset when you Odin back to stock with the rooted stock .tar file?
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Yeah...
repeat the process: wipe data and cache in recovery then boot into download mode. flash the correct stock firmware via odin with "auto reboot" unchecked. when you get a "pass", pull the battery. reinsert the battery and immediately press the recovery button combo. once in, wipe data and cache again. reboot. report back.

[Q] flashing a rom without bricking?

I cant flash a rom and have it work. I have tried several ROMS like aokp, jedi, smooth, jellybeans, etc and they almost always brick. Jedi worked but google services crashed back to back to back to the point where i couldnt even use the phone. does anyone know of a 4.3 rom that works on att sgh-i317?? i basically went down the list on galaxynote2root.com and tried them all but no success.
I have root, have TWRP installed and flash the rom and it bricks. i factory reset first, then install and nothing.
any ideas?
All of the roms on this forum work.. What are your exact steps?
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Kreateablaze said:
All of the roms on this forum work.. What are your exact steps?
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Have they been tried on sgh-i317?
I did these exact steps:
Rooted phone and installed TWRP recovery
put AOKP Rom on SD card and booted into recovery mode
Wiped/Factory reset through recovery
rebooted into recovery
installed AOKP ROM
booted and bricked- hangs at "X" aokp bootup screen
Have you installed gapps after flashing an aosp rom? I am running carbon rom right now... Earlier today I was on aokp. I have used them all and I have a I317. An att note 2
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Kreateablaze said:
Have you installed gapps after flashing an aosp rom? I am running carbon rom right now... Earlier today I was on aokp. I have used them all and I have a I317. An att note 2
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does not having the gapps installed prevent the phone from booting? ive booted a rom before without gapps and it booted.
was there something wrong with my steps? did you use the aokp milestone or nightlies? where did you get the carbon rom? its all good?
I used the latest aokp nightly. And right now I'm running the newest carbon nightly. I got it from the op of the carbon thread.
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I used the latest aokp nightly. And right now I'm running the newest carbon nightly. I got it from the op of the carbon thread.
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What were your steps? what recovery were you using? im just so confused why my phone bricks every time
I'm using the latest version of twrp recovery. Try updating it?
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Download your rom and gapps again using a PC...
Then place the files to your SD using a card adapter if no USB connection is possible...
Then fully wipe the device again from within the latest version of TWRP recovery and flash the new downloads ...
You may have a bad flash ...and you are not bricked...g
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gregsarg said:
Download your rom and gapps again using a PC...
Then place the files to your SD using a card adapter if no USB connection is possible...
Then fully wipe the device again from within the latest version of TWRP recovery and flash the new downloads ...
You may have a bad flash ...and you are not bricked...g
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I did those exact steps and it did not work. i tried flashing pac man rom the last time and it got stuck in a boot loop too. I think there are some files that are corrupt or some temp files somewhere that are preventing a successful flash. my binary flash count was 9. and that was just on this run, ive tried flashing several times before. each time the only way to recover it is hooking the phone up to a pc and using kies to flash back to stock firmware. this sucks.
What version of twrp are you using? I have never had this issue you are having and I have flashed every rom on this forum for our device.
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I did those exact steps and it did not work. i tried flashing pac man rom the last time and it got stuck in a boot loop too. I think there are some files that are corrupt or some temp files somewhere that are preventing a successful flash. my binary flash count was 9. and that was just on this run, ive tried flashing several times before. each time the only way to recover it is hooking the phone up to a pc and using kies to flash back to stock firmware. this sucks.
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9 counts ??
Uh....yeh...not right ...
Have you messed with device partitions in ODIN ??
If so...something is definitely wrong ...
At this point ...you may want to consider a full return to stock and allow the PIT to properly restore your partitions..
Just follow the return to stock guide (sticky )...in the general section ..
Once restored to stock with a corrected flash counter you can begin again using CF auto root as your root method..
It sounds as if you have root issues and possible partition damage...
One other step you can try first is to boot into download mode and re-root using CF...
That may help....but certainly won't hurt anything...then attempt a clean flash again..
If it fails ...then the return to stock and rooting again seems prudent ...g
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Ok ill try that. When I do the sticky method is that different than using kies to flash to stock? Kies is supposed to wipe everything and reload stock firmware. I agree the partitions are corrupt somewhere
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igotta67bug said:
Ok ill try that. When I do the sticky method is that different than using kies to flash to stock? Kies is supposed to wipe everything and reload stock firmware. I agree the partitions are corrupt somewhere
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Are u wiping data and system as well in recovery. If you're running TW and u switch to AOSP without wiping everything.....the results most likely wouldn't b pretty
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I'm doing a factory reset--> "swipe to wipe". Do I need to do something else?
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Kies is not the method I use in returning to stock...as I don't trust it..
Odin is my first choice ...
Using Odin to flash a factory rom will wipe everything as well ...and is far more reliable ...IMHO...g
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9 counts ??
Uh....yeh...not right ...
Have you messed with device partitions in ODIN ??
If so...something is definitely wrong ...
At this point ...you may want to consider a full return to stock and allow the PIT to properly restore your partitions..
Just follow the return to stock guide (sticky )...in the general section ..
Once restored to stock with a corrected flash counter you can begin again using CF auto root as your root method..
It sounds as if you have root issues and possible partition damage...
One other step you can try first is to boot into download mode and re-root using CF...
That may help....but certainly won't hurt anything...then attempt a clean flash again..
If it fails ...then the return to stock and rooting again seems prudent ...g
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OK, so i followed these steps perfectly and it did not work. GOt Stuck in a boot loop again. something is corrupt. i used the latest version of clockwork mod and tried to install the latest AOKP nightlies. :crying:
Alright ...
Do you mean that you returned to stock ??
And have rooted again ...??
If yes ..we can dig deeper ...and if not ...proceed with full unroot...g
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I used the sticky on turning your phone back to stock which used odin. I followed that list perfectly which said to flash stock using odin, root using cf then using triangle away, then super user to fully unroot. Then I installed clockword mod recovery, booted to recovery mode, cleared all cache and davlik and factory reset again, then installed the aokp and it got stuck in a boot loop
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Here's what I do with twrp when flashing a rom.
Go to wipe menu and then advanced wipe and select dalvik, cache, data, system and internal(optional). I do it three times to make sure. then flash your rom with gapps (if aosp)

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