How does I set up teh linux?
1- you dont know anything about linux. go ubuntu. we will tweak it after that. version 10.xxx (cant remember exactly).
2- you've used linux before and feel comfortable when thinking about it. go ubuntu/fedora.
3- no worries. you can troubleshoot alone when leenucks acts funny, you su everyday. go arch linux.
bottom line, it all comes to a few package versions.
make, python2, git, jdk, maybe a few others, need old versions. even in ubuntu, if you would like to start from a more updated base image, you'll need to downgrade. arch linux allows this with more freedom, since its more modular.
i havent used fedora for a few years now. used it back when red hat quit doing desktop images, didnt stay long and switched to slack.
i prefer archlinux because it's 300mb'ish iso, allows lvm, luks from live cd, doesnt have a text-based installer but install scripts, rolling release system (prebuilt packages/packages built from src using abs/aur, testing repo), customizable/modular, cli package manager (pacman ), systemd, grub2..
basically, if you like bleeding edge and power to yourself, try archlinux. read the wiki, begginer guide, install guide. first time i did it, i used another pc to help me go through all the steps.
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When you're interested in Linux you can take a easy to use Distro like Ubuntu.
Packetmanagement resolves dependencies autocratically and nearly each software is available as a precompiled Packet
Also such Distros are running 32 and 64bit Programms out of the box.
If you want to learn linux in deep (and have enough time to solve issues) i recommend a Distro like Arch or Slackware.
I use Slackware64 and learned a lot about Linux and the packet and library dependencies.
Because the Packetmanagement does not resolve dependencies.
Even GUI Tools are rare on this Distro, you have to struggle with config files.
Slackware is a pure 32 or 64bit Linux (can be build to a Multilib Linux).
For Example the Android SDK mainly uses 32bit.
Maybe you should try some Distros and use that one you feel familiar with.
Also there are good Resources out in the net which you should read (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, File Permissions, Basic Shell Tools)
Google and en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LPI_Linux_Certification would be a good starting point.
You could also try some Live-CDs, mess with it and when all went wrong only reboot.
Good Luck
Indeed, start Ubuntu, you can even stay with it if you like. But Arch and the install guide give you a good grasp on how Linux works.
Of course, you can develop apps in Windows or OSX, and OSX and Linux are the only two that allow you to build Android from source (basically ROM development). You also need to know Java to develop Android apps, less fun than screwing around with Ubuntu lol.
Good luck!
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Thanks for all the replies guys! Wish me luck lol.
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Thanks for all the replies guys! Wish me luck lol.
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Just to give one final thought, I think Slack would be a better learning experiencing, since it's even more close to Unix than Arch. With Arch you learn a lot, that's a fact, but with Slack you understand even how libraries and dependencies work, kinda the hard way, since you don't have a package manager to take care of it for you.
I think both might be a steep (maybe too steep) learning curve, and Ubuntu will be easier but, Ubuntu does things more their way. It's Linux, but things are different. Eventually, you'll know what i mean.
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Thanks for the input. That's something to look into for sure. I am in no rush to just jump in and try it. I'd really like to learn everything on a basic level like that first.
I'm trying to get the research down before I start messing with the development.
[Guide] Compiling your own nightly kernels Quark/Blechd0se & Essential Git commands
Well Hello again another day, another do it yourself guide for the people like me with ORD
Search it up to see what am on about
Today there will be two guides they are very easy I promise - One on how to compile just the kernel image(zImage) and the other on how to use some common git commands.
Kernel Guide
1. Downloading the sources & packages needed :
Before we start we need to make sure you have the necessary packages required for you to compile the kernel.
If you already have an android build environment setup then we are good to go
If not then you can either use my guide and get an android build setup going just incase you want to compile your own nightly later on or you can just download the necessary packages required for compiling the kernel.
Packages needed - git-core, gnupg, flex, bison, gperf, libsdl-dev, libesd0-dev, libwxgtk2.6-dev, build-essential, zip, curl, libncurses5-dev, zlib1g-dev, ia32-libs, lib32z1-dev, lib32ncurses5-dev, gcc-multilib, g++-multilib.
So for ubuntu based system it will be -
$ sudo apt-get install git-core gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl-dev libesd0-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev build-essential zip curl libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev ia32-libs lib32z1-dev lib32ncurses5-dev gcc-multilib g++-multilib
For arch linux -
$ sudo yaourt git-core gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl-dev libesd0-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev build-essential zip curl libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev ia32-libs lib32z1-dev lib32ncurses5-dev gcc-multilib g++-multilib
Most of the packages are found in the AUR repository so you need a frontend to AUR like yaourt.
Once you have the packages installed we are going to clone the kernel tree into our computer.
I feel it's best you make a new directory for which you will use to compile kernels.
Once you are in your directory of choice we can now download the kernel sources
For Quarx kernel - $ git clone https://github.com/Quarx2k/jordan-kernel
For Blechd0se kernel - $ git clone https://github.com/Blechd0se/jordan-kernel
One thing to note is after the git clone command you can name the folder in which the sources will be saved to.
For example git clone https://github.com/Blechd0se/jordan-kernel blechd0se. This will renamed the folder to Blechd0se which the kernel sources will be saved to instead of the default name of jordan-kernel.
2. Downloading the toolchain/s
If you have one of the rom sources (CM10, SB, CNA) synced up then you can just point the cross compile to that directory.
$ git clone https://github.com/Quarx2k/platform_prebuilt
Here you have a choice of two toolchains either the default google one (4.4.3) or the recently added linaro toolchain(4.5.4) by Quarx
3. Setting up configuration
Now cd into the kernel folder so for me -
$ cd ~/Kernel/Blech0se
Then run the follwing commands -
$ export ARCH=arm
$ export CROSS_COMPILE=~/<location of toolchain>
- For the linaro toolchain it will be export CROSS_COMPILE=~/Kernel/arm-eabi-4.5.4-linaro/bin/arm-eabi-
- For google's iw will be export CROSS_COMPILE=~/Kernel/arm-eabi-4.4.3/bin/arm-eabi-
make mapphone_defconfig
If you are compiling Blechd0se kernel then you can choose what process schedulers you want BFS or CFS the default is CFS.
To enable BFQ you need to do the following things
make menuconfig this will bring up a menu which you can use to customise the kernel if you know what you are doing this can also be used on Quarx's the difference is you don't have as much choice as in Blechd0se's.
Scroll down and select enable block layer then IO schedulers the scroll down to BFS and type "Y" a star will appear in the checkbox showing it will use BFS now.
Once that's done you can compile own kernel image using the make command
make -jx <maximum number of jobs>
Replace the x with the amount of jobs you want. I usually use -j8 but you can use higher but it can slow down you PC.
Read this post for more info on effectively using make -jx
You kernel will be finished into a couple of minutes to hours depending on the amount of jobs you used and how many cores you have in your processor.
Now we need to package the kernel into a zip to flash recovery.
I recommend you download one of Blechd0se's zips and modify it.
You need to delete the config folder if you don't want your overclock settings getting overwritten and also you can modify the updater script found in META-INF/com/google/android.
Then replace the zImage in the folder system/2ndboot/ with your new one.
You can find your zImage into the arch/arm/boot folder in your kernel source folder.
4. Updating and rebuilding -
To update your sources with the latest changes you can use the git pull origin command from the kernel source folder.
So for me it will be -
$ cd ~/Kernel/Blechd0se
$ git pull origin
Once it's being updated we need to first use
$ make clean
$ export ARCH=arm
$ export CROSS_COMPILE=~/<location of toolchain>
$ make mapphone_defconfig
$ make -j8
Credits & Thanks-
To XDA as always for being an awesome resource and playground
To Google for all they awesomeness
To Blechd0se for being an awesome kernel dev
To Quarx for his amazing work on the kernel so far
To thewadegeek for his guide which I have adapted this from Thank him here
Git Commands
The following git commands are the essential ones are feel that are needed to be able to use git effectively allowing you to help contribute back to the community...... With these commands you can help with things such as rom translation, bug fixes etc......
Commands -
1. git clone
This is used to clone a remote repository like here onto your local drive allowing you to edit/add files.
e.g
$ git clone https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_device_moto_jordan-common
This will clone the repository android_device_moto_jordan-common into a new folder called android_device_moto_jordan-common but if you want the folder to be called something else just add the name after the url like so....
$ git clone https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_device_moto_jordan-common Defy-common
Additionally, you can also specify downloading one branch by using the -b command you can also still has a custom name for the folder by putting the name at the end of the branch name. E.g
$ git clone https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_device_moto_jordan-common -b jb_2ndboot Defy-common
2. git
HAHA again
Last one for a party
I just finished syncing CM10 sources, I'll do this one too now
Thanks, you rock!
mark，thanks
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Thank you Kayant for this nice guide Hope to see some additional dev's soon
Maybe you can add how to push a commit
And if you only want to rebuild modified modules you can simply run the "mmm" command, safes time
Btw: BFQ and CFQ are I/O-Scheulders, CFS and BFS are process schedulers
When I used to have defy (good old days) this was something I want to share with everyone but I couldn't because I lost my defy when I have doing some progress in custom kernel. Then I lost track of this great community and stop to make things for defy. It's great to see this kind of tutorials for help other users as well. As always, very thanks kayant!!!
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Thought I might add. on that make -jx command, x should be your max threads + 1 -- eg, I have a quad core w\o hyper threading so I use 5.
use the "nproc" command to find out how many threads you have
the make jx is different than sync jx, where sync jx is how many files you'll concurrently download. I figure most of us know that, but I figured I'd make the distinction.
number of cores + 1 is recommended on a lot of faqs; your results may vary, but using j5 (my recommend setting) versus not setting it (j4 by default, i think -- needs fact checking) speeds up compile time by 20-30 minutes (Quarx CM 10). using too many threads will slow you down and using too little is inefficient and thus slower.
Thank you very much for your informative guides Kayant always learn something from it and really appreciate it:thumbup:
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Thought I might add. on that make -jx command, x should be your max threads + 1 -- eg, I have a quad core w\o hyper threading so I use 5.
use the "nproc" command to find out how many threads you have
the make jx is different than sync jx, where sync jx is how many files you'll concurrently download. I figure most of us know that, but I figured I'd make the distinction.
number of cores + 1 is recommended on a lot of faqs; your results may vary, but using j5 (my recommend setting) versus not setting it (j4 by default, i think -- needs fact checking) speeds up compile time by 20-30 minutes (Quarx CM 10). using too many threads will slow you down and using too little is inefficient and thus slower.
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Thanks for the infromative post as always
In this situation I feel it doesn't matter too much since it takes minutes to compile just the kernel even on my core 2 duo but I will add your hint your post to the OP. Thanks again ^_^
Kayant said:
Thanks for the infromative post as always
In this situation I feel it doesn't matter too much since it takes minutes to compile just the kernel even on my core 2 duo but I will add your hint your post to the OP. Thanks again ^_^
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You're completely right about the kernel and time -- but for full rom builds and a Funtoo "emerge -uDNav world" it helps. I just saw that j8 and thought "My dual core Athlon 64 would hate me if I did that".
Great guide as always
That does it.
I'm studying Linux in earnest. Enough of this dabbling around the edges... :cyclops:
renoob said:
That does it.
I'm studying Linux in earnest. Enough of this dabbling around the edges... :cyclops:
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That's the best thing I ever did. I hated XP, wish it was more like Win2k -- I'd gladly pay for Win8 if it had a 2kPro interface. Win2k was awesome, and the only Windows OS I'll give praise to.
I recommend starting out with Ubuntu or Mint (Mint based on Ubuntu, not Debian). There's better support for Ubuntu and distros based on Ubuntu. After about 4-6 months, once you start learning apt, the command line (bash), and some Linux basics; switch to Pure Debian or Mint Debian -- much better than Ubuntu, but not as user friendly (or AptoSid\Sidux -- they're based on Debian Unstable (Sid) -- which is actually pretty stable, ya just gotta be able to fix it if it breaks). I've found that the easiest way to learn it is to just do it. Reading up on it only goes so far without putting it to practice.
After a year or so, try out Gentoo\Funtoo and you'll learn a lot about Linux -- but those distros are not for the faint hearted and require time and dedication to get a GOOD working environment. Once you have it how you like it, it WILL be the fastest desktop you can use with the fastest compile time -- well, WILL should be shall or can. I'm about to turn my old compile PC into a generic x64 Funtoo box (one of my 64's is AMD, the other Intel). A generic build will allow me to use the same base system on both PC's and allow me to rebuild them to they're specific architecture after its all set up. It took me 3 tries to get a good Gentoo box running -- miss one step in that install guide and you can be up that creek.
11 years on Linux now, 9 years with only maybe 25 boots into Windows -- past 10-15 were to flash an sbf and to reboot back to Linux -- so glad I stumbled across the sbf_flash Linux tool. Last time I booted Windows was after installing Win7 and its drivers....seriously, all I've done is installed it and the drivers and haven't booted it up since. I've used Red Had, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, Mint, Debian, Suse, Mandrake, Gentoo, Funtoo, Sabiyon, Aptosid, Sidux -- after using all of them, I find that I prefer Debian\based systems (not Ubuntu\based systems -- I actually don't like Ubuntu, well, since 0910 -- it was a good distro up until then imho). And I like Funtoo for the source based distros -- I've messed around with other source based ones (Sorcerer, Arch) and like Futnoo over Gentoo and the rest in the end.
//You might already know enough Linux, I'm just posting what I think is the easiest way to start using and, therefore, leaning Linux.
///I'm also surprised that there isn't an XDA based Linux distro -- designed by XDA members to make it easier to get into Linux\rom hacking
rom compiling with all the tools we all need an apt-get away.
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I've been meaning to ask, Do any of you programmers have any good books to recommend? I'm finding myself of the border of power user and programmer and need to start learning some code skills to cross over. I'd like to learn something C, Python3, and Java; but there are a ton of books on them and I'd like a recommendation from someone HERE who knows a bit of programming and what they'd use to learn nowadays. I'm sure I'm not the only one with that question either. Something C and Java for Android, Python3 for Linux (maybe Android if that project has gained some ground). Thanks.
/Bolded that so it sticks out.
@skeevy
I use Arch Linux ATM and a love it but yh I have read about gentoo and how you can build it to your system.... Once I get a new PC in the near future hopefully very soon am going to try that and freebsd... Thanks for the advice
Let's Go ^_^
Kayant said:
@skeevy
I use Arch Linux ATM and a love it but yh I have read about gentoo and how you can build it to your system.... Once I get a new PC in the near future hopefully very soon am going to try that and freebsd... Thanks for the advice
Let's Go ^_^
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Never tried BSD. Arch was OK, but I started on Debian, jumped around different ones for a few years, stuck with Ubuntu 7.10 for 6 months, hated their update, and been on Debian or Mint Debian ever since; testing or Sid usually -- I transcode my DVD's and stable has older codecs . Arch was a year ago for a month -- if I gave it more of a chance I'd probably like it as much as I do Debian. I've used almost all major distros, desktop environments, window managers, etc; but I always find myself back with Debian\XFCE -- it just works for me.
If you didn't know, Debian has a freeBSD based distro as well. That'll make it easy to try out BSD in an Debian style environment.
Hoped I could say the same. School is a real Linux killer.
Even for software that has a linux port, they only give us the installer/license for the Windows version. :/
PLC and robotics software tend to only run on Windows anyhow. As 3D drawing.
Always have the need to change my partition setup Linux-Windows after installing such an application on my laptop.
I am now using Ubuntu for 3 years. I like the look and don't want to spend time on my PC installation so it's good for me . I can imagine that it's different if you really want to get to know Linux or Unix.
What I hear most for learning to program (me not so much) is just try to do what you plan to do with it(an android application, ...) and searching how to get there. Don't know many that read books. Except for guidelines for memory management and security for example later on.
I've been programming for nearly 20 years. Only had a few classes in the basics. The rest has been trial by fire. Use Google a lot to figure out how to do stuff, but I can't really TALK about code as I don't know what to call some of the things I do. I highly recommend taking formal classes and reading books.
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I compiled my own kernels on my phone and it's running
ps:My english is not so good:crying:
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Hoped I could say the same. School is a real Linux killer.
Even for software that has a linux port, they only give us the installer/license for the Windows version. :/
PLC and robotics software tend to only run on Windows anyhow. As 3D drawing.
Always have the need to change my partition setup Linux-Windows after installing such an application on my laptop.
I am now using Ubuntu for 3 years. I like the look and don't want to spend time on my PC installation so it's good for me . I can imagine that it's different if you really want to get to know Linux or Unix.
What I hear most for learning to program (me not so much) is just try to do what you plan to do with it(an android application, ...) and searching how to get there. Don't know many that read books. Except for guidelines for memory management and security for example later on.
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That's what I've been doing up until now, but Google only helps so much -- I can do a search on learning Java and come up with 1000's of faqs, guides, ect -- weather its worth reading or full of it is unknown too me since. A good book can be worth its weight in gold. With a bad internet faq, ya might as well change the faq's a to a u and bend over, cause that's what you're doing to yourself by learning from bad sources.
While I don't know what apps you're using, I know that some apps have a license isn't limited to the platform -- the Win License works on Linux\Mac\Unix as well. Or just use the Lin version and not feel guilty since you have the Win license .
Ubuntu was great until it started getting too bloated for my tastes -- and they're XFCE editions usually use much more resources than doing the same thing with Pure Debian installed from the command line up. On compile\dev boxes you want as little running as possible for obvious reasons. Not to mention the UI can greatly change from release to release with Ubuntu. Buntu was my 2nd Linux to run; Debian first -- Learned more on Ubuntu then went back to Debian. Pure Debian can be daunting if its your first distro.
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I've been programming for nearly 20 years. Only had a few classes in the basics. The rest has been trial by fire. Use Google a lot to figure out how to do stuff, but I can't really TALK about code as I don't know what to call some of the things I do. I highly recommend taking formal classes and reading books.
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Thanks. I'd be taking classes if I could. I don't qualify for any grants and I don't want to go for a loan because of the uncertainty of being able to pay it off.
Something I'm seriously thinking about doing is this -- free online classes from MIT. That has to be good information.
@All
I'm thinking of starting a generic x64 Funtoo box and get it to where XFCE is working, Nvidia graphics (all I buy is Nvidia Cards ), Android SDK is up and running, and all the required scripts, apps, udev rules, etc are already installed set up (repo, sbf_flash, apktool, etc). Then upload that as a zip so all you'd have to do is extract the zip to a blank partition, edit its fstab, update grub, set the build environment variables to your own, reboot, set users\passwords, and recompile the system.
I'm already going to do all of that except for the upload as a zip part -- I have 2 64 bit pc's -- one amd, one intel -- so I have to build it as a generic 64 in order to use the same system on both boxes. I was just wondering if anyone else would be interested in something like that once its all done.
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I normally don't post my PM's, but the last half on this one I sent out might be useful to some of you looking for the essential git commands
I have a couple of good sites I use for github reference. Here & here
Typing "man git" in the command line has helped me a lot as well. I've learned most of my Linux knowledge by typing "man name_of_program" and Googling what it said that I didn't fully understand -- especially with video encoding, ffmpeg and mplayer are some long reads, so is git. Git also has a "git help name_of_git_command" program that's helpful as well.
There's also a few threads on the Defy forums dedicated to helping out people trying to do exactly what you're wanting to do. The nightly builds link is a really good place to start with -- contains pretty much all you need to know to be able to compile roms. Kayant's an awesome dude and really helpful. His threads are great for users wanting to learn and\or contribute back.
[Guide] Compile your own nightly builds - AOKP, CM10, CM9, CNA, Slim Bean, P.A.C
[Guide] Compiling your own nightly kernels Quark/Blechd0se & Essential Git commands
I learned git from forums like the ones above, those reference sites and man pages\help program. Took about a week of trial and error before I got the hang of it. I still have a hard time remembering to start a branch before editing crap after the initial sync .
Honestly, the hardest thing to do, in regards to PA, is adding in FM. Almost everything else Defy\Bravo related just cherry picks right in with no\ very little and easy to fix conflicts. The FM commits are old and those files have changed a lot from when Quarx & Maniac did the patches -- especially between Quarx's and PA's current.
Cherry picking is pretty easy, navigate to the base directory -- like frameworks/base -- then its "git cherry-pick a_ton_of_hex" and it'll either pick right in or you have conflicts. If I get conflicts, I use the app "git-cola" ran from command line in the /frameworks/base directory; and its a gui app that'll list what files have conflicts (and a lot more) -- I then open up the conflicting file with tkdiff (or whatever diff you like) and fix the conflicts, "git commit -a" (saves changes), and push to github. If you don't get conflicts, just commit and push. Btw, the ton of hex is all the hex code next to the commit on github.com, review.cyanogen-mod.com.
Making changes on your own is done simply be navigaitng to the base directory -- frameworks/base for the android_frameworks_base repo, device/moto/mb520 for the Bravo repo -- and opening a terminal, starting or pointing to a branch (git checkout -b name_of_new_branch is a good command to run before you do anything -- checkout -b n_o_b creates a new branch and places you on it), then do what ever changes you need to do, then do "git commit -a", enter a description, and push. Once you have different brances going, you can use "git checkout name_of_branch" to switch between them. Read up on branching, cause theres a lot to it.
There's a lot of different ways to do git, and my way might not work for you.
Good luck and have fun reading -- you'll be doing a lot of it :silly:
Hi Visionaries,
I've decided to start meddling in proper dev. stuff, so thought it would be good to start with attempting kernel compilation. I cloned the Andromadus htc7x30-3.0 kernel and did all necessary steps, cleaning, pointing towards ndk, etc., and compilation goes fine up until I get the errors which are attached as a screenshot of my terminal window below.
I guess my question is what's going wrong and how do I fix it?
I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 32bit, and am a total newbie at this sort of stuff (don't worry, I can use a linux terminal though!) but would really appreciate some help thanks a lot.
HTCDreamOn said:
Hi Visionaries,
I've decided to start meddling in proper dev. stuff, so thought it would be good to start with attempting kernel compilation. I cloned the Andromadus htc7x30-3.0 kernel and did all necessary steps, cleaning, pointing towards ndk, etc., and compilation goes fine up until I get the errors which are attached as a screenshot of my terminal window below.
I guess my question is what's going wrong and how do I fix it?
I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 32bit, and am a total newbie at this sort of stuff (don't worry, I can use a linux terminal though!) but would really appreciate some help thanks a lot.
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use the compiler from the ubuntu repo, then it should compile
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apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
then use
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CROSS_COMPILE=gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi-
when compiling
RE: [Q] Andromadus htc7x30-3.0 kernel - compilation errors
Thanks, although I'm pretty sure I already am anyway, it compiles for a fair amount of time (10 minutes possibly) before the errors are thrown up and I'm using the cross compile and directing it to the kernel gcc binary in the kernel directory (sorry if my terminology's a bit off).
I'll try what you've said above although I thought you were supposed to use the gcc from the kernel anyway?
First of all let me start off by admitting that I am crazy and a noob programmer so maybe I don't understand the problem and am asking a rediculus question.
I was wondering if there was any way of converting C/C++ source into python that could be run on Android. Mostly command line stuff that would be done over adb or maybe even the terminal. I have got the python interpreter google provides running on the command line, I can access it from adb, terminal IDE, Terminal emulator, it seems everywhere, I moved the files into my /system directorys and add PYTHONHOME and ""PATH to my bashrc and mkshrc files located in the "/system/etc" section and now I can call them from those shells. For instance I can call "bash" and get bash, or/and I can call "python" to get python2.6 ( I have no idea how to implement the "Alternative" method of linking executables like in debian on android so it just has to be thought out, i tested with 2.6)
So with that all being said, if the C/C++ bindins for python ( I don't really even know how those work) were ported to android would we be able to use that to port C source?
And a second question. Does the python interpreter googlecode offers run on top of the Delvik VM?
Sounds pretty complicated and interesting, seen a lot of crazy things happen here over the years so I wouldn't say anything is impossible lol I recommend you ask this in the Q&A section though. Or maybe the Android Development and Hacking section, there's a lot of talented programmers over there as well.
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To answer the question you asked: no, that's not a reasonable endeavor.
To answer the one you didn't: it's actually not hard to build most console programs from source to run on Android. You should be able to grab yourself a cross-compiler toolchain, and build the programs yourself. If you're running Linux on your computer, most distros have a tool to build such toolchains, or you can use e.g. MinGW and a Windows toolchain (Linaro might have one) to compile. In general './configure --host arm-linux-androideabi' should set everything up for you.
Obviously, there is a learning curve to building like this, but it's certainly not impossible to do.
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To answer the question you asked: no, that's not a reasonable endeavor.
To answer the one you didn't: it's actually not hard to build most console programs from source to run on Android. You should be able to grab yourself a cross-compiler toolchain, and build the programs yourself. If you're running Linux on your computer, most distros have a tool to build such toolchains, or you can use e.g. MinGW and a Windows toolchain (Linaro might have one) to compile. In general './configure --host arm-linux-androideabi' should set everything up for you.
Obviously, there is a learning curve to building like this, but it's certainly not impossible to do.
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Right on, I just started reading the Linux From Scratch book and it has helped me understand the process behind it all a bit, I still need to finish reading the book and build my own Linux system for the my laptop first as that is what they are talking about.
I actually just got msfconsole or Metasploit running on Android, I ran started it up from ADB. I posted another thread about it with more detail.
I am just mounting the filesystems from the kali.img file that I made a few days ago, I basically just did a reverse chroot and brought those directories into Android's "/" directory and then exported the path variables that you normaly would but since I didn't change root and all the apropriate directories where in their proper place it ran.
My next step is to obtain a method for building the Kali Linux for arm system on a ROM, probably a blend of Cyanogenmod and Kali Linux core or rather just the command line programs. I am assuming that once the tools are available to the Android system folks could build gui's that call those programs and return their values and then bundle it in an apk for installation across devices running the modified ROM.
My end goal is basically a version of the Kali Linux distro that runs Android as its "desktop" instead of kde gnome pxe or some of the others. Then hopefully, maybe, if its deemed worthy, a specialized repository can be maintained for this version of the distro that wouldn't include any of the original gui programs for normal Linux Desktops, but only specialized apk's (instead of .deb or .rpm) that install gui's for android.
Thats what I would like to see, a Super Droid.
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