I previously did a review on the Nokia BH-214 almost 2 years ago. Loved it & now I saw they have a newer version out: BH-221
First, some pictures compared to the 214 (white):
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A lot of what I loved about the 214 remains and what annoyed me about the 214 was resolved. Namely the clasp. The 214 was fixed, could never rotate. With the 221, the clasp rotates 360! One of the coolest new features of the 221 is NFC. You can power it on simply by holding the Nexus up to it! (I've not had much luck getting it connected via this method yet though.)
You can *STILL* use whatever earphones you prefer. The headphones plug in in the middle, opposite of the screen, not on the edge like previously. It charges via micro USB (same as Nexus) unlike the standard Nokia micro pin plug on the 214.
They've also added an OLED screen that will show you caller id, track names (if the device it's connected to supports it), and displays the FM channel it's tuned to. OH YEA! It has a built in FM tuner! If your phone was like the EVO, it used the ear phones plugged in for an antenna.
It also supports mutilpoint connectivity, allowing it to be simultaneously connected to two devices. To initiate a search for a phone, press the Start/End Call button for about a second. Same thing for a media device, except you press the Play/Pause. Here you can see it searching for a phone or music device:
I use it in the car as a hands free (via the Aux In) connected to my EVO (as a pure media device) and my Nexus for phone. Works great. The only aspect that I miss is that all notifications on the Nexus won't be heard because they're played over the media connection, not phone. Also, I believe the mic to be improved as I used to get complaints about echos when on a phone call while plugged into the stereo.
It took me about 30 minutes to figure out how to connect a 2nd device. It's not intuitive and the manual has NO INFORMATION on it at all. It required a lot of button holding after initiating a search. Hold the Prev/Next buttons simultaneously & options menu is scrollable via the Prev/Next buttons. The options are:
- Adjust Bass/Treble
- Connect 2nd Device
- Language
- Factory Reset
(NOTE: I didn't realize that the 214 could connect to multiple devices as well! I don't know how I decided to try, but it works essentially the same was as the 221. Press & hold the phone to connect to a phone device, Play/Pause for a media device. You don't get a screen to show the search, but it worked. I can connect to both my EVO & Nexus at the same time with no music apps running on my Nexus, but music playing on my EVO that I can hit next/prev & the songs change and take a phone call on the Nexus. Thought that was neat!)
One of the greatest things I loved about the 214 was the battery. It seemed to last longer than advertised. The 221 seems to last about what's advertised & seemingly shorter than the 214.
The other issue is price. I paid about ~$30 more than I paid for the 214. Another cool thing for the 221 is now it comes in 5 colors (White/Black/Blue/Green/Pink, but it's just the controls, the body is still black). The 214 comes in 2 (white or black, I believe maybe a blue too?). I bought it for about $75 at Expansys.
(NOTE: I haven't found a North America 221 for sale yet, they only have the EU version. You can tell by the plug, but Expansys included a US/EU plug adapter! I almost threw the box away my order came in & while verifying it was empty, I found the adapter! Works great.)
The volume is about the same, if not the 214 being a tad louder than the 221. The call clarity is as good as your phone & I've not had any complaints about noise or whatever from others when on a call.
I keep the 221 in the car because of it's better mic capabilities & the 214 (that used to stay in the car) now is around my neck full time again. Either make a great hands free/media interface for my car. The stock stereo was severely lacking & the 214/221 is a pretty good stop gap.
Thanks for your review. I purchased the 214 based on your review.
I've liked my 214. My issues have been connectivity - I'd say about 1/3rd of the time my key presses on the 214 are not registering with my phone. Do you notice any increased responsiveness with the 221?
If you haven't noticed any change there, I'm not sure I'll upgrade. I haven't found the need for a rotating clip. I also don't think I need two connections.
sparhawk6 said:
Thanks for your review. I purchased the 214 based on your review.
I've liked my 214. My issues have been connectivity - I'd say about 1/3rd of the time my key presses on the 214 are not registering with my phone. Do you notice any increased responsiveness with the 221?
If you haven't noticed any change there, I'm not sure I'll upgrade. I haven't found the need for a rotating clip. I also don't think I need two connections.
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I've not noticed the connectivity issues with my 214. Sometimes I do, right when I make the first connection, but it's usually pretty reliable.
As for the 221, I haven't noticed it either, other than when I power it on via NFC. I still have to hit the Send/End to get it to pair with Nexus, so it's not really saving much. I think as far as music is concerned, sometimes (with ether 214 or 221) it immediately fires up a music app by hitting Play/Pause, sometimes it doesn't.
As for a dual connection, the 214 supports it, which I didn't realize until having my EVO be the primary media device on the 214/221 (unchecking the "Connect to Phone" option under EVO's BT Settings) & making the Nexus the primary phone device (unchecking the "Connect to Media" option). Since I don't have any cell service on the EVO, I can't verify that it'd connect to the phone anyway, but I know I can get my Nexus to connect to both phone/media if the EVO BT isn't on or near.
audio clarity
how is the Bass and Audio Clarity? do you think it is good enough for gym?
Thanks for the review. It would be great if they put all these into a watch format with an extra speaker phone function.
Not so sure about the smart watch thing, but a Bluetooth headset in a watch format would be awesome.
Mindgrinder said:
how is the Bass and Audio Clarity? do you think it is good enough for gym?
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Subjective. It works for me & I'm using Shure SCL2 IEMs (professional level). Either the 214/221 is plenty loud enough with good sealing in ears. If you want to further it, you could use a FiiO E5 headphone amp. It's about the exact same size as the 214 & will boost the audio fine. I use one on my desktop or when traveling on a plane.
shinji21 said:
Thanks for the review. It would be great if they put all these into a watch format with an extra speaker phone function.
Not so sure about the smart watch thing, but a Bluetooth headset in a watch format would be awesome.
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I imagine you could just clip it to a wrist band or jogging arm band to get that.
One of the coolest aspects I've noticed lately of the 221 is how much easier it is to power on/off. Anyone with a 214 will tell you how hard it is to push that tiny button.
If your Galaxy Nexus has stock 4.0.4, can you please tell me whether it has a lag to play any sound other than the google music player and videos? MW600 is driving me nuts with this lag, I know it is 4.0.4 specific but I'm not sure if it is specific for the MW600 or if it affects other bluetooth headsets. The simplest way to test it is playing a game, audio lag is easily noticed while playing games...
P.s.: if you are listening to FM radio, is the phone audio still routed to the headset, and can you easily answer a call, or is it like MW600 where you need to manually switch the headset to the bluetooth mode and then answer the call?
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Subjective. It works for me & I'm using Shure SCL2 IEMs (professional level). Either the 214/221 is plenty loud enough with good sealing in ears. If you want to further it, you could use a FiiO E5 headphone amp. It's about the exact same size as the 214 & will boost the audio fine. I use one on my desktop or when traveling on a plane.
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thanx, how good does it work with Lumia phones any idea?
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If your Galaxy Nexus has stock 4.0.4, can you please tell me whether it has a lag to play any sound other than the google music player and videos? MW600 is driving me nuts with this lag, I know it is 4.0.4 specific but I'm not sure if it is specific for the MW600 or if it affects other bluetooth headsets. The simplest way to test it is playing a game, audio lag is easily noticed while playing games...
P.s.: if you are listening to FM radio, is the phone audio still routed to the headset, and can you easily answer a call, or is it like MW600 where you need to manually switch the headset to the bluetooth mode and then answer the call?
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SGS2 A403 (Litening Rom) ... in game it totaly have lag - delay is about half the second ... I got big delay even in MX player but only sometimes ... mostly it was with the "standard" delay
there is FM mode and bt mode ... switched with one position button ... it will automatically switch to BT when calling
Im missing android app for that device to bind buttons and more (like display managment) maybe I will write it but it wont be soon ... nokia.com/support also missing that devices (only mono headsets)
maybe bug but voice recording uses phone mic to record ... the sophisticated app is really needed
when someone calling with "turn on/off" you answer the call
its small but have own weight ... the watch option is good idea
Hi Laygo,
I just bought this device from expansys, and it is working great with music player but I keep losing connection when it works as a headset for calls. If I am 1 meter away from the phone it will connect and disconnect every few seconds. The main reason I bought this was to use it for calls
My phone is an htc Titan. Have you even encountered this issue? Any way to fix it or shall I just return it to expansys?
Many thanks.
The only problem I have is with NFC: when I power it on via NFC, it won't actually connect. I have to hit the phone button for almost a second (until you hear the single beep), let go & then it connects. Once connected, I do not have ANY issues with media or phone. Works flawlessly.
Multipoint
So can I receive calls on both the devices I connect or only one device can be used to receive calls ??
I have the model bh-214 and a galaxy I9100.
When I connect it to the aux in the car who is calling me hears echo. Is there a solution? Has tried it in the car as bluethooth handsfree?
Thanks.
Well, after awhile, the screen on my 221 has not legible at all. It might have something to do with the Texas summers or not, but I rarely use the screen. It is needed to pair/configure, but I've not used it hardly at all.
Still connects flawlessly with both my Evo/Nexus with my Evo purely as Media & Nexus as Phone and/or Media (if I have the Evo off).
Hey,
I've been looking for a decent bluetooth stereo headset to use with my own earphones and I like the look of the Nokia BH-221 but I've got a couple of concerns maybe you can help with:
Low volume issue
I've read that some people are having issues with the device not pushing out enough volume, some suggest even with the stock earplugs. Apparently the issue is even worse with mid range impedance headphones like I'd planned to use (70 ohms). Anyone here having similar issue with this device?
Track ID
I've been looking at headsets with a display (this one, MW600 & MW1) as I want to be able to control my music and see track names on my commute without getting my phone out. I've read that Nokia didn't implement AVRCP 1.3, instead they've implemented v1.0 then done some black magic to make the track information work with certain handsets (mainly Nokia's). This seems like a bit of a deal breaker for me as I want a BT headset that's standards compliant so even if the track ID doesn't work on my Nexus 4 & Nexus 7 now, when stock android updates the BT profiles to support AVRCP 1.3+ then it should all start working. What are your experiences with the track ID support?
If the two points above are real problems with the device then I'll probably pick up a MW600 or MW1 as an alternative. I just think the Nokia BH-221 looks so much nicer!
Thanks
A word of warning: This bluetooth device has serious compatibility issues with the Lumia 920.
Read more: http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nokia-Lumia/L920-amp-BH-221-Playback-issues/m-p/1676684
Based on the reasons I mentioned above I went for the older device: MW600 - I'll post a youtube review once I've had a week or two with it.
jimmyff said:
Based on the reasons I mentioned above I went for the older device: MW600 - I'll post a youtube review once I've had a week or two with it.
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Send it back now!
The worst designed headset ever and the quality is dreadful.
I got one to replace my 7 year old Nokia BH - 500 and thought it would be great after reading some reviews.
How wrong i was!
Whoever designed it needs sacking.
When you want to turn volume up it never works but when you don't want to touch it you will.
It is infuriatingly bad.
Then there is the sound
I took it back and got an exchange because i thought it was broken.
But it wasn't as the new one was the same.
Anything over 3/4 volume distorts and it is not even loud anyway.
100% on that is like 50% on the Nokia for loudness and in a completely different league for quality.
To the OP in your review of the 214 you mention numerous times how Loud it is but then you have just said in this review you use something else to bump up the volume?
So.. Why would you need to if its so loud?
Ever tried Nokia BH-500?
Its great, quality and loudness are amazing (with different headphones but how does it compare to 214?
This site says it is brilliant, i have just ordered another BH-500 from Amazon and am now wondering if i should change?
http://www.gadgetnutz.com/2010/07/12/nokia-bh-214-review/
Edit, tested back 2 back with same songs and earphones and BH-500 is better.
LAYGO said:
Well, after awhile, the screen on my 221 has not legible at all. It might have something to do with the Texas summers or not, but I rarely use the screen. It is needed to pair/configure, but I've not used it hardly at all.
Still connects flawlessly with both my Evo/Nexus with my Evo purely as Media & Nexus as Phone and/or Media (if I have the Evo off).
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I have the same problem with my BH-221 in India. I just bought it yesterday. Did you find a solution for the brightness issue?
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Ok so I took back my Motorola s9 because of skipping problems with mt T Mobile Wing & now ive got the perfect headset, Its a Insignia Ns-Bthdp paid $53.49 @ Best Buy.
Ok it charged in 3 hours ,paired up nice and re paired when I shut off the device with no problems.Its SUPER LOUD ...wow I couldnt believe how loud these things are ..but its not as clear as the s9's were, I think if I add the EQ to my phone, I can fix that.
On a call it had a small echo effect for the the other party but on my end the call is in stereo(yes).These sit on the ear not in it and wrap the neck like the s9's.
The controls will take some getting use to, it will beep when theres an incoming call so you can answer, and you can return the last call as well.
So wing lovers there you have it a cheap stereo bluetooth headset that wont SKIP and its loud,light,and did I say it dosen't (SKIP)...lol
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Ok so I took back my Motorola s9 because of skipping problems with mt T Mobile Wing & now ive got the perfect headset, Its a Insignia Ns-Bthdp paid $53.49 @ Best Buy.
Ok it charged in 3 hours ,paired up nice and re paired when I shut off the device with no problems.Its SUPER LOUD ...wow I couldnt believe how loud these things are ..but its not as clear as the s9's were, I think if I add the EQ to my phone, I can fix that.
On a call it had a small echo effect for the the other party but on my end the call is in stereo(yes).These sit on the ear not in it and wrap the neck like the s9's.
The controls will take some getting use to, it will beep when theres an incoming call so you can answer, and you can return the last call as well.
So wing lovers there you have it a cheap stereo bluetooth headset that wont SKIP and its loud,light,and did I say it dosen't (SKIP)...lol
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residentEvil said:
Ok so I took back my Motorola s9 because of skipping problems with mt T Mobile Wing & now ive got the perfect headset, Its a Insignia Ns-Bthdp paid $53.49 @ Best Buy.
Ok it charged in 3 hours ,paired up nice and re paired when I shut off the device with no problems.Its SUPER LOUD ...wow I couldnt believe how loud these things are ..but its not as clear as the s9's were, I think if I add the EQ to my phone, I can fix that.
On a call it had a small echo effect for the the other party but on my end the call is in stereo(yes).These sit on the ear not in it and wrap the neck like the s9's.
The controls will take some getting use to, it will beep when theres an incoming call so you can answer, and you can return the last call as well.
So wing lovers there you have it a cheap stereo bluetooth headset that wont SKIP and its loud,light,and did I say it dosen't (SKIP)...lol
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Hi Evil:
Sorry to ask a stupid question, but you may be able to save me some research, for what I believe may be an easy question. I just got the headphones you mentioned. They are great.
I was able to easily pair them with my Tilt, but once I turned off, next time I went to use them, I turned on bluetooth, and nothing.
Is there some additional step I need to take to get them working?
Basically all I did was make sure the headphones were on, then turned on bluetooth on phone. Am I missing something?
Thanks!
PS: Please forgive my ignorance. I have never used a bluetooth device, and it doesn't explain anything beyond pairing in the manual for the headphones
I also have the Tilt (TyTN II), but have the i-Tech BlueBand R (which I love).
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but one annoyance with using this BT headset with my TyTN II is the need to go into the BT menu and manually activate the pairing every time, i.e., go to BT settings, turn on BT, go to Devices, long click on the i-Tech and choose "set as hands-free" and/or "set as wireless stereo."
Am I expecting too much? Or is this just that way BT stereo headsets work?
cincy1020 said:
Hi Evil:
Sorry to ask a stupid question, but you may be able to save me some research, for what I believe may be an easy question. I just got the headphones you mentioned. They are great.
I was able to easily pair them with my Tilt, but once I turned off, next time I went to use them, I turned on bluetooth, and nothing.
Is there some additional step I need to take to get them working?
Basically all I did was make sure the headphones were on, then turned on bluetooth on phone. Am I missing something?
Thanks!
PS: Please forgive my ignorance. I have never used a bluetooth device, and it doesn't explain anything beyond pairing in the manual for the headphones
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My HTC Touch Cruise and my Samsung SBH-170 connect automatically as soon as the headphones are turned on. Pressing play on the headphones starts my music only if either HTC Audiomanager or Windows Media Player are already running. My older Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) however would also start Windows Media Player on its own once I pressed play on the headphones.
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rigelstuff said:
I also have the Tilt (TyTN II), but have the i-Tech BlueBand R (which I love).
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but one annoyance with using this BT headset with my TyTN II is the need to go into the BT menu and manually activate the pairing every time, i.e., go to BT settings, turn on BT, go to Devices, long click on the i-Tech and choose "set as hands-free" and/or "set as wireless stereo."
Am I expecting too much? Or is this just that way BT stereo headsets work?
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Well, as it turns out, I had a defective headset. After exchanging it, it is no longer necessary to pair each time.
Regel, you are correct, it is VERY annoying to have to go in each time, and select "set as hands-free" and/or "set as wireless stereo."
Does anyone have a workaround for this, so that it will automatically use as stereo , and headset?
Sonus:
You are lucky that yours connects automatically, I sure wish mine did too. Those are very nice looking headphones! Better looking than my new Insignias, but the Insignias were cheap, and I'm broke
Thanks!
EDIT: Sonus: You were right! If I turn on music and bluetooth BEFORE turning on headset, it does automatically connect. Thanks for the tip!
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Sonus:
You are lucky that yours connects automatically, I sure wish mine did too. Those are very nice looking headphones! Better looking than my new Insignias, but the Insignias were cheap, and I'm broke
Thanks!
EDIT: Sonus: You were right! If I turn on music and bluetooth BEFORE turning on headset, it does automatically connect. Thanks for the tip!
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I'm happy it worked out, I usually keep bluetooth on all the time, as battery drain is very minimal. As long as the bluetooth is already on before you turn on your headset, you can turn the music player on at any time you want without any issues.
Thanks, I actually had first bought the headset over a year ago for $100, but someone stole them a few months back, and I was able to get a set on eBay for like $16 plus shipping...so the moral is that they can be bought cheap if you're really interested in a pair.
Hi!
I am in the market for a set of stereo BT headphones for the gym, S9 seems to get lots of bad reviews..especially for getting them wet which is a problem as I sweat like hog in a blast-furnace...any luck with any of the sets you have actually being sweat-resistant and not interfering with running/lifting? TIA!!
cincy1020 said:
Regel, you are correct, it is VERY annoying to have to go in each time, and select "set as hands-free" and/or "set as wireless stereo."
Does anyone have a workaround for this, so that it will automatically use as stereo , and headset?
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All bluetooth headphones I have used, have automatically connected as hands free, but there is nothing to show this on the phone; just the flashing on the headphones shows it is connected.
Then pressing play on the headphones starts wireless stereo, and the headphone symbol appears on the screen, and the headphones make the little beep tone.
Heya,
for a long time i have been looking for some decent bluetooth stereo headset.
now it has come down to two models. well, actually one only
my choice: motorola s9
and the second possibility: Motorola T820
from reading the comments on amazon on those devices i realize that my phone needs to be A2DP compatible to get the best sound out of the headset.
i use s2p as music player and i know it is A2DP compatible... but is real question is: is my phone (HTC P3300 WM6) compatible with this tecnology
also: if you can suggest any other good headsets, please do so.
key features i seek:
- able to use on my phone and pc
- a2dp
- good sound and microphone quality
a2dp not working
Hi,
I have HTC artemis. I recently purchased wireless bluetooth stereo headsets (Jabra bt325)
I cannot connect it to use as wireless stereo. Its working fine as handsfree. After pairing, I cannot see wireless stereo option. Its Greyed. I know that artemis is A2DP compatible.
But i am sure that headset is fine because I tested it with n95 and it worked fine.
Please give me a solution.
Try this:
Start - settings - connections - bluetooth - and add new device
If your headset is already added, use your stylus and press on the bluetooth headset name until the following menu comes up:
Edit
Delete
Set as Hands-free
Set as Wireless Stereo
Choose no. 4
yes it is.
I'm using Dopod M700 which is the P3300 w/o the GPS module.
It works with dell BH200 BT stereo headset and also the o2 BT stereo earphones.
It works on joint stereo in WM5 and since its now running WM6.1 its real stereo.
Dell BH200
Hi thanks for the suggestion even after setting the Bluetoot head set as "set as Handsfree" it did not work, as soon as I receive or make a call the head set goes off, looks like its some compatibility with A2DP not sure, if some one has done some development or found a patch to make this work would be a great help
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Hi thanks for the suggestion even after setting the Bluetoot head set as "set as Handsfree" it did not work, as soon as I receive or make a call the head set goes off, looks like its some compatibility with A2DP not sure, if some one has done some development or found a patch to make this work would be a great help
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might be a specific problem of your headset model.
i use a motorola s9 and it's quite nice. fits nice, does not disturb after hours, controls work fine, calling works fine...
BUT (and there's always a but) it has some major drawbacks i found out. while it's still nice to listen music without wires, i encounter this problems. which MIGHT be due the phone, not the headset... but i have no way to test that.
so, basicly, P3300 + motorola S9 through A2DP:
- insides works like a charm. phone in my belt, headset on. music cuality nice with some small music interrupts every now and then (maybe once per 5 minutes). phone calls nice and i can hear and they can listen me well.
but my oh my when i get on the street...
- constant music interrupts every 15 seconds. i have hang the phone around my neck so it's where my chest is to not get interrupts so often (still get one every 2-3 minutes)
- as the mic is where the ear is, if i have a call, it's impossible to hear me due the background noise. this also applies to the underground/metro. it's not that bad in a bus
and well. without A2DP enabled my music player uses so little resources the phone still works fine...
if A2DP is enabled, the phone gets REAL slow and the battery drain is MASSIVE.
when this motorola S9 break... i'll get another model to test. and when that breaks i'll probably get back to some nice wired ones (unless the CPU issues and the battery drain on the phone gets solved) ... but maybe i actually change the phone before that happens. who knows.
Hello,
I think I have found the best FM transmitter for HTC devices (with EMU port).
Here is a description of the product: http://www.e2mate.com/flash/en/index.htm
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Here are information about the price:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Car-FM-Transmitt...M_Transmitter_Handsfree_with_car_charger.html
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=3019
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FM-Transmitt...0776832QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL080714091a36236
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/206172966/FM_Transmitter_Handsfree_with_car_charger.html
I only have 2 questions about it:
- Does it also charge the HTC device when you use it ? I mean is the PocketPC charged through the FM transmitter device ?
- Does it also works without the car charger ? I mean is it powered up by the PocketPC device ?
Chris
Why do you even need an FM transmitter when you can stream* almost any radiostation out there via mms, pls or rtsp protocols using free TCPMP player, for instance. All of them have links of that sort on their websites.
*Assuming that you have a decent data plan, of course.
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Why do you even need an FM transmitter when you can stream* almost any radiostation out there via mms, pls or rtsp protocols using free TCPMP player, for instance. All of them have links of that sort on their websites.
*Assuming that you have a decent data plan, of course.
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Transmitter.... not reciever. However I kinda agree why do you need to connect the phone to the radio? Isn't that the point of the speakerphone? Thats what I use when driving,
this is supposed to be the best?...please get that outta here...try this the motorola t505..fm transmitter and bluetooth speaker phone all in one..and its wireless....google it..I just bought one and IT IS THE BEST hands down!
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this is supposed to be the best?...please get that outta here...try this the motorola t505..fm transmitter and bluetooth speaker phone all in one..and its wireless....google it..I just bought one and IT IS THE BEST hands down!
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I agree. I bought this one about a month ago and it is the best FM Transmitter I have ever used. The signal is so strong that I hardley ever hear any static, even if I am streaming to a live radio station. I use mine every day as I am always on the road for my job - average 5 hours a day connected through bluetooth and streaming music from my phone to my stereo using the FM transmitter and only have to charge the thing once a week. This is the best one I have found so far and I have tried dozens of different ones.
Also - No interferance from the phone when you get a call unlike many of the other FM Transmitters I have tried - (NO Buzzing at all like you can sometimes get when phone call comes through when your phone is near a speaker or using a cheap fm transmitter) I use mine with my HTC Touch and Love it.
For my 2 questions, I have contacted the product manufacturer, the response it NO, for the 2 questions :-(
But they are thinking about making a new version, with charging capability of the HTC.. so maybe good new in the near future.
ljinsane said:
this is supposed to be the best?...please get that outta here...try this the motorola t505..fm transmitter and bluetooth speaker phone all in one..and its wireless....google it..I just bought one and IT IS THE BEST hands down!
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Looks nice, but I have already ordered (and waiting for it) this:
http://www.tekfun.com.tw/eng/product.php?mode=show&cid=2&pid=193
It is also a FM transmitter for HTC that is able to charge the PocketPC at the same time ! but do agree I would have prefered a smaller device than this.
booblik2009 said:
Why do you even need an FM transmitter when you can stream* almost any radiostation out there via mms, pls or rtsp protocols using free TCPMP player, for instance. All of them have links of that sort on their websites.
*Assuming that you have a decent data plan, of course.
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Guess what!!! there is a world outside of the US or Europe too...
For such a world something like this makes immense sense!
mirage22 said:
Guess what!!! there is a world outside of the US or Europe too...
For such a world something like this makes immense sense!
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Guess what ?
I live in Europe (France) and i have only a 5 MB data plan... Other things to do than spending a lot of money in my phone to receive the FM OTA !!!
So i use ONE FM X-Mitter with both of my cars...
You're not alone, in India !
PS : I use a GRIFFIN 6106-TRPUNPLS as i don't want to activate A2DP on my Prophet
ljinsane said:
this is supposed to be the best?...please get that outta here...try this the motorola t505..fm transmitter and bluetooth speaker phone all in one..and its wireless....google it..I just bought one and IT IS THE BEST hands down!
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THis looks great, but i already have a factory built in bluetooth carkit, would it be possible to simultaniously connect to my factory built in carkit and to this T505 only for the music?
WDawn said:
THis looks great, but i already have a factory built in bluetooth carkit, would it be possible to simultaniously connect to my factory built in carkit and to this T505 only for the music?
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OK I just tested it and this is what I did. I went into my bluetooth settings and for the T 505 I unchecked the box for handsfree and then paired it with my phone. I played my music and it streamed perfectly through the T 505 to my stereo. I then paired my bluetooth headset and placed a call to myself. The music still paused automatically when the call came through and the call was sent to my bluetooth headset and not to the T 505. After I disconnected the call, the music on the phone resumed and continued streaming through the T 505 to my car stereo. So I was able to connect and use multiple bluetooth devices at the same time with my phone and specify which device will do what - Stream music to T 505 and calls to Headset. You should be able to do the same - Stream music only through the T 505 to your stereo and your calls to your built in factory Bluetooth carkit it you want. Really there would be no need to use the built in car kit though unless your factory carkit displays caller ID information. The T 505 does not : However, I think it might speak the caller ID Number to you when a call comes in. I do not subscribe to caller ID to keep the cost of my cellular plan down so I can't really tell you how that works.
Let me know if this was helpful.
Rod
hotrod101 said:
OK I just tested it and this is what I did. I went into my bluetooth settings and for the T 505 I unchecked the box for handsfree and then paired it with my phone. I played my music and it streamed perfectly through the T 505 to my stereo. I then paired my bluetooth headset and placed a call to myself. The music still paused automatically when the call came through and the call was sent to my bluetooth headset and not to the T 505. After I disconnected the call, the music on the phone resumed and continued streaming through the T 505 to my car stereo. So I was able to connect and use multiple bluetooth devices at the same time with my phone and specify which device will do what - Stream music to T 505 and calls to Headset. You should be able to do the same - Stream music only through the T 505 to your stereo and your calls to your built in factory Bluetooth carkit it you want. Really there would be no need to use the built in car kit though unless your factory carkit displays caller ID information. The T 505 does not : However, I think it might speak the caller ID Number to you when a call comes in. I do not subscribe to caller ID to keep the cost of my cellular plan down so I can't really tell you how that works.
Let me know if this was helpful.
Rod
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Very helpfull thanx. Just ordered one of those.
I am new in motorola and was hoping someone can help me out with this small problem.
I have purchased 2 Moto T505( one for me and one for my GF). Whenever we receive a phone call, the T505 rings its own ringtone along with the phone ringtone. How can i disable the Moto ringtone(ennoying ascending tone and keep my phone ringtone to ring only)
Thx a lot
Any help is appreciated
bteljuice said:
I am new in motorola and was hoping someone can help me out with this small problem.
I have purchased 2 Moto T505( one for me and one for my GF). Whenever we receive a phone call, the T505 rings its own ringtone along with the phone ringtone. How can i disable the Moto ringtone(ennoying ascending tone and keep my phone ringtone to ring only)
Thx a lot
Any help is appreciated
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I just assumed that it could not be done since it is built into the T505. I actually prefer it though as the phone ring tune is sometimes not loud enough to hear, but you will never fail to hear the Moto T505 ring
but they ring togetherrrr
At first, it worked only phone ringtone. then the moto ringtone came along.EXTREMELY ENNOYING. i mustve pressed something
bteljuice said:
but they ring togetherrrr
At first, it worked only phone ringtone. then the moto ringtone came along.EXTREMELY ENNOYING. i mustve pressed something
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Yeah, They have always rang together for me. If you can figure out how to get my ring tune to come throught the Moto nice and loud rather then the default moto ring, that I would really be interested in.
hmmm.well i use my car speakers, so its always loud.
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hmmm.well i use my car speakers, so its always loud.
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That's what I mean. Currently, the Moto default ring is what comes thorugh the car speakers and my phones ringtone only plays through the phones built in speaker (Not loud enough for in the car)
i wish it was the contrary.i will try one more thing and see if it works out.But im almost 100% sure it can work without the moto ringtone.I just want to either set the moto to be either headphone or speaker via bluetooth.maybe thats the clue.
will try it tomo and tell u
chris247 said:
Hello,
I think I have found the best FM transmitter for HTC devices (with EMU port).
Here is a description of the product: http://www.e2mate.com/flash/en/index.htm
Chris
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Any good site to buy this in the usa
thxs
I've been looking into those today but found out it doesn't charge the phone? Thats really odd.
They can be had on Ebay for 15 bucks CDN
Has anyone used one of these devices - ebay item 330270408584
How well does it work with a PPC ?
I would take a punt and get one, but apparently I will need adaptors to connect to my car (audi) which bumps the price to £61 !!!
In view of that, I want to know if the sound is crystal clear, connects automatically etc
XCarLink?
hays said:
Has anyone used one of these devices - ebay item 330270408584
How well does it work with a PPC ?
I would take a punt and get one, but apparently I will need adaptors to connect to my car (audi) which bumps the price to £61 !!!
In view of that, I want to know if the sound is crystal clear, connects automatically etc
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I have been looking at these on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160283183151
£75 and you get an MP3 player that interfaces to a standard Audi head-unit (see the list) and emulates a 2nd CD-Changer. It also has a BlueTooth adapter that allows you to stream audio from your phone to it (A2DP?) as well as apparently acting as a hands-free car-kit.
I use TomTom Navigator on my HTC Kaiser and would like to know about how functional it is when used in this combination - i.e. Use Media Player or Audio Manager on the PDA to play music whilst running TomTom and also use it as a hands-free kit for the phone. I have verified that using the internal speaker you can play music and also use TomTom and the the instructions are just played over the music. I just don't want to get one and find out its cr4p.
I have asked the question on a couple of forums but not had any good responses yet. I have a 20% off voucher for eBay (as long as PayPal is used) so I can get £15 off the £75 which brings it down to £60. However £60 is still £60 and if it's rubbish......
Andy
looks good
I've got an Audi too. Here are a few pics of my iO Play setup which supports the handsfree and headset profies (HSF/HSP) as well as the stereo music and remote control profiles (A2DP/AVCRP). In all honesty though, this was a custom (ie non plug and play) setup. So I did do some custom wiring to get this to work. I think though, if you have an older non-Bose Audi, this might be plug and play.
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IO play looks good but is gonna be about £150
I like the look of xcarlink but it doesn't say much about its bluetooth operation
I want to keep using S2P as my preferred MP3 software because the cover flow is superb
Therfore I dont want to reorganise my folders as xcarlink suggests, but if the bluetooth A2DP works, I shouldn't have too
Can you take a punt on the xcarlink as you have the 20% voucher
I'm sure if it didnt work out, you could resell on ebay for the purchase price as you bought it for less money
ADB100 said:
I have been looking at these on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160283183151
£75 and you get an MP3 player that interfaces to a standard Audi head-unit (see the list) and emulates a 2nd CD-Changer. It also has a BlueTooth adapter that allows you to stream audio from your phone to it (A2DP?) as well as apparently acting as a hands-free car-kit.
I use TomTom Navigator on my HTC Kaiser and would like to know about how functional it is when used in this combination - i.e. Use Media Player or Audio Manager on the PDA to play music whilst running TomTom and also use it as a hands-free kit for the phone. I have verified that using the internal speaker you can play music and also use TomTom and the the instructions are just played over the music. I just don't want to get one and find out its cr4p.
I have asked the question on a couple of forums but not had any good responses yet. I have a 20% off voucher for eBay (as long as PayPal is used) so I can get £15 off the £75 which brings it down to £60. However £60 is still £60 and if it's rubbish......
Andy
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I'm very tempted to try the xcarlink
Bluetooth Module?
As far as I can work out the Bluetooth module is an afterthought and is entirely external. The XCarLink doesn't actually have any Bluetooth intelligence as the module just plugs into the AUX port - like a 'dumb' MP3 player connected directly with a stereo jack plug (I assume there has been some minor modification to get power to the module though?).
I have been searching for a manual or installation guide and can't find anything useful. I am tempted to just get one with my 20% discount and see how it works - its still £60 though
If anyone has any experience with one of these or has any links I would be grateful.
Andy
bluetooth car audio
A good solution to hear your favorite songs and call your friends from your car ...
Clarion FB288/FB289 BT !!!
very simple : Radio, SD slot (2Go max), AUX in, and bluetooth A2DP...
installed last week...
Pompei1888 said:
A good solution to hear your favorite songs and call your friends from your car ...
Clarion FB288/FB289 BT !!!
very simple : Radio, SD slot (2Go max), AUX in, and bluetooth A2DP...
installed last week...
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I don't want the hassle of having to remove the front panel off a standard sized stereo evertime i leave the car
THe feedback for the xcarlink seems really good
If I had a 20% code, I would order now - any ideas where theses codes can be found
ADB100 said:
As far as I can work out the Bluetooth module is an afterthought and is entirely external. The XCarLink doesn't actually have any Bluetooth intelligence as the module just plugs into the AUX port - like a 'dumb' MP3 player connected directly with a stereo jack plug (I assume there has been some minor modification to get power to the module though?).
Andy
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It does appear to be a different unit than the non bluetooth version. It looks like a mini usb socket for the bluetooth module, while the non BT version has a 3.5mm headphone input
hays said:
It does appear to be a different unit than the non bluetooth version. It looks like a mini usb socket for the bluetooth module, while the non BT version has a 3.5mm headphone input
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Yes, thats what I thought. If you look at the cables that get supplied with it there is a mini-USB to 3.5 stereo audio jack as well. I assume they have just used the extra pins in the mini-USB (if that's indeed what it is?) to power the BT module.
Still not sure whether to get it or not
Andy
If I get one I will be happy to post a full review with some decent pictures and you tube vid
I'll let you know how well it works
I'm biting the bullet and getting one
Stand by for a full review when it arrives
Hays
I use one of these and would never consider living without it. It works fantastic with S2P and most other software I have.
AJ
ajbopp said:
I use one of these and would never consider living without it. It works fantastic with S2P and most other software I have.
AJ
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That looks good but suffers from the same issue (albeit opposite) as the XCarLink does emulating a CD Changer - i.e. if you are not listening to the radio (i.e. your BT kit) then you won't be notified that a call is coming in.
I have also bitten the bullet and ordered an XCarLink with BT, with my 20% discount I got it for £59.80 (unless customs hit me for any import duty....).
I'll post a review when I manage to get it fitted...
Andy
ADB100 said:
That looks good but suffers from the same issue (albeit opposite) as the XCarLink does emulating a CD Changer - i.e. if you are not listening to the radio (i.e. your BT kit) then you won't be notified that a call is coming in.
Andy
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On the other hand, if you are not listening to the radio via the BT kit, then you probably haven't got the phone currently paired with the device anyway, in which case you will be notified just like normal. Also, if you set the phone to vibrate you will always be notified that way regardless.
In my experience, this device doesn't "suffer" from anything.
AJ
ajbopp said:
On the other hand, if you are not listening to the radio via the BT kit, then you probably haven't got the phone currently paired with the device anyway, in which case you will be notified just like normal. Also, if you set the phone to vibrate you will always be notified that way regardless.
In my experience, this device doesn't "suffer" from anything.
AJ
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OK, but with a 'proper' car kit interfaced with the Phone input on the head unit you would be notified regardless of what you were listening to. In my experience if Led Zeppelin or AC-DC gets played on the radio station I am listening to I immediateley up the volume which will drown out the phone ringer. With either the XCarLink or the Motorola BT device you use there will be no interuption which there would be with a regular car kit like a Parrot dur to the way it interfaces with the HU.
In Manchester (UK) we now have a classic Rock station (Rock 106.1) and Led Zepellin and AC-DC are on quite often....
Andy
All received and almost there
I have the sound working via the line in socket
I'm struggling to get it talking to my phone
I've plugged the bluetooth module into the xcarlink (nothing else connected)
I pressed the button on the bluetooth module. Some beeps came through the stereo and a partnership was set up, however no music or phone calls
Any ideas - think it's likely to be a feature of wm6 than a fault with the xcarlink
hays said:
All received and almost there
I have the sound working via the line in socket
I'm struggling to get it talking to my phone
I've plugged the bluetooth module into the xcarlink (nothing else connected)
I pressed the button on the bluetooth module. Some beeps came through the stereo and a partnership was set up, however no music or phone calls
Any ideas - think it's likely to be a feature of wm6 than a fault with the xcarlink
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Replying to my own post...
I have to go to
Settings/Bluetooth then tap and hold the xcarlink device until the menu appears
Then select "set as wireless stereo"
Seems I have to do this each time. Which is a shame, but I know this is the XDA rather than the xcarlink. Does anyone know an automatic way ?
Perhaps a task for Mortscript - but that will be a whole learning curve
Acually, it may be the xcarlink that's your issue, I have some A2DP accessories that search for my phone as soon as they are turned on, and I have some that don't.
However, how is the xcarlink's A2DP sound quality? Do all AVCRP remote control commands work properly? Also, does it have any handsfree capabilities?
hays said:
Replying to my own post...
I have to go to
Settings/Bluetooth then tap and hold the xcarlink device until the menu appears
Then select "set as wireless stereo"
Seems I have to do this each time. Which is a shame, but I know this is the XDA rather than the xcarlink. Does anyone know an automatic way ?
Perhaps a task for Mortscript - but that will be a whole learning curve
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Others have probably figured this one out, but from my searches I found no other posts.
I am somewhat of an audiophile, and i wished to use the in-ear headphones which came with my Sony Ericsson Walkman W810i (old phone) to listen to music on my universal. unfortunately, these earphones have a 15cm cord, which won't even reach into my front pocket. To fix this issue, I decided to get a handsfree adaptor (why pay ~$5 for a plain old extension cord?). Mine cost ~4.50 AUD on ebay from hong kong, and was originally designed for an iPhone. Many people have assumed that these (plain 1 button + mic + headphones/headphone socket) iPhone headsets will work with the Universal. this is not the case. After pluggin this in with my wonderful sony heaphones I noticed taht the sound was tinny and sounded very washed out. I realised that this was because the ground pin and microphone pin on the universal are in opposite locations to those on the iPhone. The ground wire (feeding the power back from the headphones to the Universal) was going through the microphone first, and it's semi-conducting nature was screwing up the sound. Holding in the button (completely analog, just provides a fully conductive bridge on the mic channel) fixed the problem. So to fix this whole issue, I opened up the case of the headset adaptor (where the mic is) and swapped the wire from the headphone socket ground to the other side of the switch (which connects to the other wire (iPhone mic/Universal ground)) with my soldering iron. It took me only about 5 seconds of soldering and it was done. After snapping the case shut again, the headphones now provide excelent quality for my hardstyle beats.
I do have a question still though. On the iPhone (and Universal) the mic pin is grounded to provide a button click. This pauses and plays the music and answers phone calls on the iPhone, and a double click skips to the next song. Does this button answer phone calls on the Universal (I don't have a Universal headset and never have. I think it has a button, but correct me if I'm wrong). Is there any software/driver I can install to let this button pause/play and/or skip tracks in media player/pocket player? This would be very usefull software, and should be easy enough to write if anybody has the skill/desire to make this software (since the microphone is accessible to software, isn't it?). The signal should change from the mic having lots of resistance to having effectively none (showing a constantly high signal for microphone (not wave)). Maybe it could just be programed to run as a hardware button so that other software (such as voice command) can use it.
I'm unsure if this software exists already but I havn't found anything in searches.
Thanks for any help you can give regarding this software, and also happy modding to anybody looking to convert an iPhone headset, I hope this info helps.
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If the phone uses the headset button as the "green button" then maybe this software is still possible. Call Of Duty 2 for pocket pc uses the green and red buttons as game controlls, which doesn't change to the phone applications.
Blufires said:
Maybe it could just be programed to run as a hardware button so that other software (such as voice command) can use it.
I'm unsure if this software exists already but I havn't found anything in searches.
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HI the software exist but it didn't work that good for me well search in devs and hack section and you'll find it and it can only function with some other 3rd party music player not WM player..
and yes uni did come with wired headset with button in it just to answer the call nothing more and it might be because uni is old and had wm5 as original rom....
Cheers
Rajiv
ah that's what the button was for. I never could figure it out, it didn't seem to do anything!
on another note, I got a nice BT headset. Seems a bit agressive, but you could buy a cheap headset that has AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile) and rip off the earbuds to be left with the remote control.. (then again I'm unsure if you're wired headphones would fight with A2DP on the BT headphones, and you may need a way around disabling that)
(or for less agressive, look up AVRCP on dev and hacking and see if anyone has another suggestion).
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on another note, I got a nice BT headset.
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hey jonny can you map a program in any key in your motos9 ????
I use my bluetooth headset and a long press gets me Voice Command, the only difficulty is working it with Pocket Player. I got it setup to work with Voice Command instead of Media Player which I don't use at all, but it only works for starting the music and getting your media selection (album/artist/genre or anything), but once you have your music playing there is no way to make another selection or advance to next or revert to previous. Still... not a bad going, I say.
enigma1nz said:
I use my bluetooth headset and a long press gets me Voice Command, the only difficulty is working it with Pocket Player. I got it setup to work with Voice Command instead of Media Player which I don't use at all, but it only works for starting the music and getting your media selection (album/artist/genre or anything), but once you have your music playing there is no way to make another selection or advance to next or revert to previous. Still... not a bad going, I say.
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thanx a lot dear... that was what i was after... i wanted music control + voice command to be operative from headset... thanx again for valuable information....
rajivshahi said:
hey jonny can you map a program in any key in your motos9 ????
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I haven't really tried... mostly because it does exactly what I want
I have hands-free-phone controls on one side (volume +/- and pick-up call/make call button, can be used with hands-free dialing etc), and media-player controls on the other (next/prev song, play/pause button) (nb, yes, other volume +/- control also controls music volume).
I don't see why not extra mapping if you really wanted it. Perhaps make search on AVRCP.
Hope this helps.
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thanx a lot dear... that was what i was after... i wanted music control + voice command to be operative from headset... thanx again for valuable information....
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Glad i could help.
However, if you don't want your music over bluetooth and prefer it playing over Uni's speakers, there is no problem using BT for commands, it's only becomes problematic when you send audio over BT. Starting programs and apps with Voice Command over BT works fine as well. Doesn't have to be A2DP either, a single mono BT headset works just as well.
enigma1nz said:
Glad i could help.
However, if you don't want your music over bluetooth and prefer it playing over Uni's speakers, there is no problem using BT for commands, it's only becomes problematic when you send audio over BT. Starting programs and apps with Voice Command over BT works fine as well. Doesn't have to be A2DP either, a single mono BT headset works just as well.
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Thanx . i want music... i'm just music freak and watch lots of video... but i also want be able to call my contacts, open programs without taking my uni out using voice Command so i just wanted to map Voice Command into one of buttons so i can leave my uni in my pocket... and for music purpose moto s9 seems to be irresistible...
rajivshahi said:
Thanx . i want music... i'm just music freak and watch lots of video... but i also want be able to call my contacts, open programs without taking my uni out using voice Command so i just wanted to map Voice Command into one of buttons so i can leave my uni in my pocket... and for music purpose moto s9 seems to be irresistible...
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Yep, you can definitely do all that. For me the primary purpose was to get the music going while my Uni is in my bag in the backseat, I just select 'Anything' and Voila!
Basically, a long press will get you a Voice Command prompt, no need to map anything specifically, and you say what it is that you want. I amuse my friends by asking my Uni all sorts of inane questions, like what time it is etc. The worst thing is when I don't have my BT on - the blasted thing reads all my txts and e-mails out loud. So people now send me all sorts of **** on purpose, just so that people around me look at me and my talking bag funny.
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Yep, you can definitely do all that. For me the primary purpose was to get the music going while my Uni is in my bag in the backseat, I just select 'Anything' and Voila!
Basically, a long press will get you a Voice Command prompt, no need to map anything specifically, and you say what it is that you want. I amuse my friends by asking my Uni all sorts of inane questions, like what time it is etc. The worst thing is when I don't have my BT on - the blasted thing reads all my txts and e-mails out loud. So people now send me all sorts of **** on purpose, just so that people around me look at me and my talking bag funny.
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Thanx for the lovely advice about the text part... so i should be more careful about the txt and to stop my bag from being a center of attraction .LOL
rajivshahi, just a thought. the S9's are great, but they don't have a microphone. so only really great for listening to music, or your sat-nav! but answering calls, the Uni must be seomwhere near your mouth!
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rajivshahi, just a thought. the S9's are great, but they don't have a microphone.
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Hey Jonny wait a second... i think moto s9 has built in mic... look at the following picture....
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Hey Jonny wait a second... i think moto s9 has built in mic... look at the following picture....
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rajivshahi, you're the man! Yes, I looked it up in my little book that came with the S9, and you're right. 6: microphone: used when placing or receiving a calls (embedded inside right ear housing)
I haven't tried a phone call on them/voice command. I will do so. Oh, this makes them my most wanted item... eh, what am I talking about, I own it
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I haven't tried a phone call on them/voice command. I will do so. Oh,
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ok can you tell me hows the sound quality of the mic... can the other party hear clearly... as its bit far from mouth and embedded inside ear bud.... and would love to know how smoothly voice command runs in it ...
Handsfree Headset Pinout
I'm making a car cradle for my Uni that uses usb charge, and a 3.5 mm splitter to plug into the car stereo and an ext mic. I have no idea how this will sound with no extra noise correction (I have very loud speakers and a crappy freebe test mic), but I was trying to find the pinouts for the headset jack. the first post in this thread is as close as I could find, and after cross referenceing the iphone headset, the pinout for the Uni is left (tip), right (next ring up), mic(3rd ring up), gnd (closest to the wire coming out). really I'm doing this post so I can find it later; once I confirm this info as true, I'll add it to the wiki with a nice little picture.