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I no longer root, or modify anything deep like roms. I'm all default right now. However, I really am disipointed with Androids ablitiy to back up. I recently did a hard reset and can not believe how many customization's I did unit I had to recreate everthing.
My question.
Is there still no real solution to make a backup of your Android Devcie that includes system settings and App data without rooting?
If a root is required, Is there a simple minimal root procedure that would give me the ablitly to make full backups using something like Titanium Backup?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24910351&postcount=21
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Maybe I should not have posted my question here. I'm not a developer and this is all greek to me.
RDabate said:
Maybe I should not have posted my question here. I'm not a developer and this is all greek to me.
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If you want to ROOT then there's a lot of one-click root options out there. You just have to search. Its quite easy.
I would recommend rooting if you're trying to do a full system backup. Titanium backup will backup all the programs+data but it won't backup your home screens and all that stuff. Nandroid backup will, however. For that you will need a custom recovery. Either CWM (through ROM manager, it's the easiest way, or TWRP).
RDabate said:
Maybe I should not have posted my question here. I'm not a developer and this is all greek to me.
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Please....for the love of god/bubba/spaghetti monster.... read read read. Then do some research, and read some more before rooting. The guide mentioned here will teach you all you need to know. Just be sure to follow it. If your new to rooting I would NOT use a one click method. You don't learn anything that way.
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VTENGR said:
If you want to ROOT then there's a lot of one-click root options out there. You just have to search. Its quite easy.
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for the love of god, dont use toolkits or 1 clicks.
My last post may have been a little long winded, so I'll keep this one short. Has anyone here successfully used the ta backup and restore function in flashtool? And is it similar to a nandroid? I've searched everywhere for info on this, but it's a fairly new feature.
Thanks
What about an adB restore. Does that work like a nandroid?
split2th said:
What about an adB restore. Does that work like a nandroid?
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Any specific reason, you don't want to use the Backup & Restore feature of CWM Recovery?
ganeshbiyer said:
Any specific reason, you don't want to use the Backup & Restore feature of CWM Recovery?
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My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
split2th said:
My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
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Right ... rooting and flashing cwm does not require unlocked boot loader.
split2th said:
My bootloader is not unlockable. Hopefully it will be soon.
Edit: Reading the cwm thread, doesn't say anything about needing an unlocked bootloader. However there are a ton of people saying it is not very stable. In the mean time I'd like to modify the remove bloatware script on here in case i need to restore from ftf.
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CWM v4 is stable. I use it often with no problems.
jeriku said:
CWM v4 is stable. I use it often with no problems.
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Will a pc companion or flash tool ftf remove it? Cause then I have no reason not to test it.
Flashing stock ftf does I'm sure repair in companion will
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split2th said:
Will a pc companion or flash tool ftf remove it? Cause then I have no reason not to test it.
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Yes, flashing with a full wipe will return it to factory, CWM, initd and root will be gone.
jeriku said:
Yes, flashing with a full wipe will return it to factory, CWM, initd and root will be gone.
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Cool. Does it matter what rooting method I used?
split2th said:
Cool. Does it matter what rooting method I used?
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No. You'll just have to start from scratch if you end up doing that.
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No. You'll just have to start from scratch if you end up doing that.
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Thanks. Will give it a go.
CWM flashed. No issues. Clear cache, dalvik, fix permisions, did nandroid. All seem to work.
Thanks again.
split2th said:
CWM flashed. No issues. Clear cache, dalvik, fix permisions, did nandroid. All seem to work.
Thanks again.
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Excellent.
i'm about to root my galaxy S3 using mrRobinson's method.. and i want to know if backing up the phone's NV and data is necessary before i root it.
iranz said:
i'm about to root my galaxy S3 using mrRobinson's method.. and i want to know if backing up the phone's NV and data is necessary before i root it.
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Not necessary as in if you do not do it it will not work. It is optional you can do it if you want to or not up to you.
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I don't know why you wouldn't, it can't hurt anything and better safe than sorry, right?
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I don't know why you wouldn't, it can't hurt anything and better safe than sorry, right?
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Exactly, plus it is only a about a 15 minute or less process.
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Not necessary as in if you do not do it it will not work. It is optional you can do it if you want to or not up to you.
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cool.. thats what i originally thought.
kingston73 said:
I don't know why you wouldn't, it can't hurt anything and better safe than sorry, right?
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Exactly, plus it is only a about a 15 minute or less process.?
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hi guys.. yeah i guess but everytime i try to backup my phone with this method i get an error. all the drivers are installed properly. but when i start the NV application for it to read my phone, it gives an error that it cant read it.. i dont get it. can anyone help?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T. I'm thinking about rooting it but i don't know if i will mess up, and i don't want to brick it. I read that the efs folder is very important, not sure why entirely, but i should back it up. I searched but still am not sure if i am supposed to back it up before or after rooting, also if there is anything else i should do/backup. If anyone could give me some help, or tell me what thread to find the info in, it would be greatly appreciated . I am entirely a noob on Android, so i may be clueless on stuff.
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Oh ok, thanks, i knew i was going to mess up some way, and posted in wrong thread lol
I recommend EFS Professional (requires root). Make sure you do an NV backup! If you flash an AOSP ROM, you might lose your IMEI. It's a PITA to fix, unless you've already made a backup.
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I recommend EFS Professional (requires root). Make sure you do an NV backup! If you flash an AOSP ROM, you might lose your IMEI. It's a PITA to fix, unless you've already made a backup.
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Ok thanks a bunch for the reply, so i have to root first. Do i have to do anything or just let the GS3 Toolkit root it?
JoseGR52 said:
Ok thanks a bunch for the reply, so i have to root first. Do i have to do anything or just let the GS3 Toolkit root it?
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I just used mskip's Toolkit & let it do its thing. If you're concerned about the flash counter, you can use mrRobinson's method.
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I just used mskip's Toolkit & let it do its thing. If you're concerned about the flash counter, you can use mrRobinson's method.
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Ok, yup thats the toolkit i got. I'm not too worried of the counter because i read that it could be reset if needed, please correct me if im wrong.
Yes, generally the only reasons you'd want to clear the flash counter is if you're going to claim warranty, or selling the device. There are some apps, though, which won't work if the flash counter is > zero, like AllShareCast. In that case, you'd definitely want to avoid tripping the flash counter.
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post-mortem said:
Yes, generally the only reasons you'd want to clear the flash counter is if you're going to claim warranty, or selling the device. There are some apps, though, which won't work if the flash counter is > zero, like AllShareCast. In that case, you'd definitely want to avoid tripping the flash counter.
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Ok thanks a bunch, greatly appreciate the quick responses. That won't be so bad because i don't use Allshare, and thinking of flashing the Hyperdrive ROM, which i think will trip the counter either way, all i need now is to learn what ADB is (read it is useful if you mess up and get in a tight spot) and learn how to use a recovery, which i'm clueless on. Again, thanks a bunch!
No prob.
ADB is part of the Android SDK (get it here, then click "Download for Other Platforms" & choose "installer_r22.0.4-windows.exe"). If you haven't installed a custom recovery yet, the mskip's toolkit will do it. If it's not the latest version, you can get them here: (CWM, TWRP, instructions for manual flashing on the TWRP page).
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No prob.
ADB is part of the Android SDK (get it here, then click "Download for Other Platforms" & choose "installer_r22.0.4-windows.exe"). If you haven't installed a custom recovery yet, the mskip's toolkit will do it. If it's not the latest version, you can get them here: (CWM, TWRP, instructions for manual flashing on the TWRP page).
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oh thanks for the links! Do you know if ADB is actually useful? Have you used it? Also when i try to get the Android SDK it gives me a 404 error.
Yes, I have used adb. It's incredibly useful if you get yourself into a situation where your phone won't boot. For example, it quite common that people decide to edit their build.prop file without making a backup, then their phone won't boot. Using adb, you can pretty painlessly restore that file, or edit the changes. Note that you should go to the settings on your device & enable USB Debugging! Adb is capable of doing many things, but I've only used it for file transfers & for opening a shell.
Interesting about the Android SDK, it looks like Google changing something around...
I always backup before and after. Just in case.
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Yes, I have used adb. It's incredibly useful if you get yourself into a situation where your phone won't boot. For example, it quite common that people decide to edit their build.prop file without making a backup, then their phone won't boot. Using adb, you can pretty painlessly restore that file, or edit the changes. Note that you should go to the settings on your device & enable USB Debugging! Adb is capable of doing many things, but I've only used it for file transfers & for opening a shell.
Interesting about the Android SDK, it looks like Google changing something around...
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sounds like something i should probably have just in case, any other way to get it? Or am i getting 404 for a reason?
JoseGR52 said:
sounds like something i should probably have just in case, any other way to get it? Or am i getting 404 for a reason?
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You can download the .zip just above the missing .exe. You'll have to uncompress the file somewhere, then run the installer (probably something like setup.exe).
Childs said:
I always backup before and after. Just in case.
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Nandroid backup, right?
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You can download the .zip just above the missing .exe. You'll have to uncompress the file somewhere, then run the installer (probably something like setup.exe).
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oh ok, thank you, i'll do that right now, also, will my phone be wiped when rooted? , so i backup pics and stuff, or nothing gets deleted?
Is it normal for it to auto close when i run it? It shows something similar to a command prompt then just exits
JoseGR52 said:
so i backup pics and stuff, or nothing gets deleted?
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That depends on the method you use to root.
Is it normal for it to auto close when i run it? It shows something similar to a command prompt then just exits
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Try running it as administrator.
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That depends on the method you use to root.
Try running it as administrator.
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I am using the mskips toolkit method, and thanks the administrator thing worked, thanks. is it SDK Manager or AVD Manager?
JoseGR52 said:
I am using the mskips toolkit method, and thanks the administrator thing worked, thanks. is it SDK Manager or AVD Manager?
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Ok with what you already told me I went ahead and rooted. I got Superuser instead of SuperSU and I got the CWM Recovery, though I might change to TWRP because they say it is better, and I think I got Busybox which is some tool for rooters. I made a CWM backup (i think thats what you call Nandroid backup) and the EFS Pro backup. Is there a way I can make sure the EFS was backed up correctly?
Also I tripped the counter like 5 times because it didn't work at first.
I had a backup of stock before root but when i tried to back up to it today it gave me a md5 mismatch so i couldnt back up to it. From what I seen in beaups thread that I need to be on a stock rom and stock kernal for his s-off method to work. Is there a stock rom that I could flash to use the s-off method?
I'd like this answered as well. I think andy's stock rom near the bottom of the page works, but I haven't had a confirmation yet. Also wondering if odex versus deodexed versions matter.
Same boat im in just waiting for somebody to say which one we can use when we are already rooted and unlocked. I dont know how my md5's mismatched on my stock before root backup but I can't go back to it so Im kinda stuck here until we get a answer.
Aggies1288 said:
Same boat im in just waiting for somebody to say which one we can use when we are already rooted and unlocked. I dont know how my md5's mismatched on my stock before root backup but I can't go back to it so Im kinda stuck here until we get a answer.
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Just heard andy's bonestock works trying it myself to confirm.
EDIT: Downloading the 1.1 download not the newest. Under old downloads. I would think the more stock the better.
cstrife999 said:
Just heard andy's bonestock works trying it myself to confirm.
EDIT: Downloading the 1.1 download not the newest. Under old downloads. I would think the more stock the better.
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Just tried v1.0a..... No dice.
I'd test 1.1 but for some reason it won't let me copy the zip over to my phone... Keeps saying the device has stopped working or has been disconnected. Tried many different USB ports.... Going to have to bluetooth it which is going to take even more time...
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I'd test 1.1 but for some reason it won't let me copy the zip over to my phone... Keeps saying the device has stopped working or has been disconnected. Tried many different USB ports.... Going to have to bluetooth it which is going to take even more time...
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Im downloading 1.1 now. Ill get back with y'all on how it went.
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Im downloading 1.1 now. Ill get back with y'all on how it went.
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I found VZW_Stock_Rooted_deodex from Andy
Trying that now..
mcampos7 said:
I found VZW_Stock_Rooted_deodex from Andy
Trying that now..
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This is what I've been on since launch day. Curious if this will work.
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This is what I've been on since launch day. Curious if this will work.
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Actually I'm having more problems with this than I did trying it on 1.0a and NOS...
I'm trying to find my nandroid of stock rooted but I think it was on a drive that failed.
Linux boot, next???
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Actually I'm having more problems with this than I did trying it on 1.0a and NOS...
I'm trying to find my nandroid of stock rooted but I think it was on a drive that failed.
Linux boot, next???
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Yea i got made fun of when using that lol...
SUPER MEGA ULTIMATE DISCLAIMER: IIRC = IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF THIS DOESN'T WORK/SCREWS UP YOUR DEVICE/BRICKS/ETC. YOU ARE WARNED. THIS WORKED FOR ME IN THE PAST WITH MY GALAXY NEXUS BACKUPS USING CWMTOUCH 6.0.3.6 AND 6.0.4.3.
YOU ARE WARNED.
I HAVE NEVER USED TWRP FOR BACKUPS. IT IS A MERE SUGGESTION THAT THIS METHOD WILL WORK WITH SIMILAR RESULTS. I HAVE NEVER BROWSED A BACKUP FOR TWRP. ANY ATTEMPT YOU MAKE USING A TWRP BACKUP IS OF YOUR OWN COGNIZANCE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
YOU ARE WARNED.
YOU ARE WARNED.
IIRC: If you have an md5 mismatch while trying to restore in a recovery, try this process:
IF YOU HAVE A BACKUP I HIGHLY SUGGEST STORING THE BACKUP FILE ON YOUR DESKTOP JUST IN CASE!!!!
Boot into whatever ROM you're on ATM.
Browse to your ClockworkMod (or TWRP backup must have an accessible folder for it's backups) using a Root file explorer, which I happen to use "Root Explorer" and open the backup file you just made.
Inside of that will be a nandroid.md5.
Delete that file and reboot into recovery, and try restoring again.
SUPER MEGA ULTIMATE DISCLAIMER: IIRC = IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF THIS DOESN'T WORK/SCREWS UP YOUR DEVICE/BRICKS/ETC. YOU ARE WARNED. THIS WORKED FOR ME IN THE PAST WITH MY GALAXY NEXUS BACKUPS USING CWMTOUCH 6.0.3.6 AND 6.0.4.3.
YOU ARE WARNED.
YOU ARE WARNED.
YOU ARE WARNED.
This method did work for me several times on several backups, but root and S-Off being so new, I cannot attest that it works for the One. YOU ARE WARNED**!!
cstrife999 said:
Yea i got made fun of when using that lol...
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For using what? Linux? NOS?
mcampos7 said:
For using what? Linux? NOS?
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The sojo app called my issues dumb lol. It's hard to get frustrated when humor is involved with the errors.
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The sojo app called my issues dumb lol. It's hard to get frustrated when humor is involved with the errors.
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Looks like we may have to flash the boot.img that they are talking about in the s-off thread anybody have a guide for doing that?
I take it nobody tried deleting the nandroid.md5?
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I take it nobody tried deleting the nandroid.md5?
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I just tried looking for where the nandroid file was. I went to my sdcard on root explorer then to clockworkmod and didn't find any of my backups there. Is there another spot that i need to look in to do that?
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I just tried looking for where the nandroid file was. I went to my sdcard on root explorer then to clockworkmod and didn't find any of my backups there. Is there another spot that i need to look in to do that?
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If using CWM, they will be under the /data/clockworkmod/backup directory, not /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
I tried the odex stock rom, but it won't flash... Anybody have this issue?
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If using CWM, they will be under the /data/clockworkmod/backup directory, not /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
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Ok i found it it was under /data/media/clockworkmod/backup but i dont see any files inside of that that are a md5 file im going to look in the data.ext4.tar file and the system.ext4.tar.a. Does any of those ring a bell? i see the boot.img, data.ext4.tar.a, recovery.img, system.ext4.tar.a, and system.ext4.tar.b. Thats all the files inside the backup i made before i rooted.