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Hi guys,
My battery life is really strange so to say.
It seems that when the device is in deep sleep, it drains very little battery. However, as soon as I start using it, the battery just goes.
For example, last time the device was on for 20 hours but screen on time was just 90 minutes. I figured put that it doesn't matter what I do woth the device.
I have tried resetting, charging it over night etc but the problem seems to persist. Also, sometimes the battery charges to full capacity too quickly and then discharges within like three hours..
Do you think its a battery fault??
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same! .. hope 4.2.2 to improve its battery consumption
Battery was one of my concerns with the note 8 but im finding it not too bad . My tips for greatly improved battery are...
Turn off gps
Turn off bluetooth
Turn off reading mode
Turn off mobile data (when on wifi)
Keep screen brightness to a low level
Dont use live wallpapers
Remove all unused widgets
Remove all apps you dont use
I also have sync off at the moment
All can be easily turned on and off with the top dropdown menu, but leaving some of the above on all the time will DRAIN the battery of any android phone/tablet very quickly.
Also keep your battery in good condition by letting run down no lower than 10-20% ocasionally and give it a nice full overnight charge, try to do this at least once a week. Constantly topping up the battery or leaving it connected in a dock or to a charger will shorten the life of your battery.
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Yes, I'm on 4.2.2 and battery management went from "apocalypse" to "accettable".
I own 5120 LTE version.
b4d5h0t said:
Turn off gps
Turn off bluetooth
Turn off reading mode
Turn off mobile data (when on wifi)
Keep screen brightness to a low level
Dont use live wallpapers
Remove all unused widgets
Remove all apps you dont use
I also have sync off at the moment
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Thx for the advice. Do the reading mode drain battery? It supposed to reduce the Brightness?
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lautunno said:
Yes, I'm on 4.2.2 and battery management went from "apocalypse" to "accettable".
I own 5120 LTE version.
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kindly let us Know about average improvement in battery life by percentage compared to 4. 1. 2
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Reading mode does improve battery when your using it for reading. My overall point is turn off everything your not using because having things active in the background wont help battery. But yeah when u need directions use gps when reading a book use reading mode... just disable when not in use. You will be surpised how much longer u can make your device last if your battery concious.
The screen is the biggest drain, go into settings/battery and you will see what is using most battery listed in percentages.
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Battery calibration anyone succeded?
Hi I have a battery calibration problem on my GT-N5110 Note 8.0 that I bought refurbished through amazon. I know it is the calibration since the battery usually drains pretty fast and when it gets to 1% it stays there for around half to one hour of continuous use. Also sometimes when I'm charging it, it jumps from around 60% to 100% and "charged" shows up right after that happens, when I unplug it and use it, then it goes down normally (fast) 1% at a time, even though that big jump while charging happened.
I have tried several "full cycles" without success and haven't been able to find a real way to calibrate the battery meter, neither here or on google, and since I didn't buy it in my country, local samsung support say they can not help me.
I'm on 4.2.2 leak rooted and the drain has been present since I was on 4.1.2 stock.
If someone can get a hold of how to calibrate, it would be really nice if you could share it! Thank you!
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Can someone Help us in this Thread? Pls.. I have the same issue. Dunno if its cos the SD maid I installed deleted my batterystats.bin.. Pls help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469389
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I tried the battery calibration app before, and really didn't do a thing for me...
I also suffer this weird battery behaviour with the device charging, it will take ages up to about 60%, and then instantly its at 100%
I also get this on the way down... when im using it, the battery drains fast, but when I get to 35 -40%, I then suddenly get the low battery 15% warning flash up, and then im all out of juice.
This is the same whether im on 4.1.2 or 4.2.2 custom or stock firmware
I rarely get more than an hour screen on time, and thats with fairly low brightness and power saving mode on
If someone could some how contact Samsung and ask them about the real calibration it would be very helpful for us having this issue... Since some don't live in the US and don't get the correct support :what:
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I don't have the same issue,so I couldn't help. Sorry.
I need help with this too!
Battery decreases so quickly when wifi is on! hardly get a days use out of it...:crying:
One method described in the battery performance thread which I've found effective:
"I wanna share my trial of battery calibration that really make a significant different at least till now .. I used to make calibration by discharge / charge cycles, but this time i add an official instruction of Apple:
- discharge the battery by ur normal usage till 1% then let the device play an HD movie till it shut down (that may take some time as it for me takes 4 hours!!) then turn it on to make sure the battery read 0% (my previous calibration the battery always shut down at 1% and I never see that 0% as I was discharging it vigorously) after making sure it is 0% it will turn off by itself anyway.
- now leave ur device turned off for extended time (about 5 hours or more is better according to apple "u could let it while u r sleeping"
- after that turn the device on and plug it in as it is on
- left it charges as it likes (for my trial it takes 7 hours and didn't say charged!! but I had to unplug it as I had to leave the work!)
till now my battery is really significantly improved, hoping to continue like that and I will keep u updated
Hope that helps :good:"
Discharging it completely, leaving it dead overnight then giving it a full charge by plugging in as a soon as it powers on has yielded good results for me. However I've also discovered a severe battery drain bug in stock Kitkat which has nothing to do with battery calibration; using wifi on certain routers causes Android OS wakelock which persists in deep sleep. I use my old Galaxy W as a hotspot for my Note 8 and consistently my battery drains overnight in deep sleep with wifi on. At my workplace we have a Linksys E2500 router, I leave the tablet on wifi throughout the day and don't notice the Android OS wakelock. So if you're having inexplicable battery drain test your Note 8 on different routers.
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Calibration is a myth... google stated calibration tools do not help with how Android functions with battery management.
I posted my thread about battery and charging cables, and replied an a few topics like this one, yet nobody will search on Samsung DVFS disable or take note of it as being the cause.
Root with saferoot if you have not rooted, install xposed framework if not done so, and Wanam Xposed or Wanam DVFS disable. Since over 10 months now, my battery stats and performance are trouble free.
I was having severe battery drain for a while until I tried something I read about. What you do is carefully open the note up and disconnect the battery for about 15 minutes (they recommend a longer time but I don't see the need). Connect it back up and put the note back together.
It worked for me.
Google it, there's even a video on how to do it.
I was down to 3 hours or so of battery time but bought a replacement battery from a company called New Power 99. Cost $65-ish US and now I can go all day and still have at least 25% when I hit the sack at night. Huge improvement for me! I"m not a heavy user but I take notes at work, do some surfing, then read and surf alot at home at night. So far it's been great! Might think of a replacement battery. Probably cheaper one's out there but I wanted to get what I paid for so shelled out the extra.
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I was down to 3 hours or so of battery time but bought a replacement battery from a company called New Power 99. Cost $65-ish US and now I can go all day and still have at least 25% when I hit the sack at night. Huge improvement for me! I"m not a heavy user but I take notes at work, do some surfing, then read and surf alot at home at night. So far it's been great! Might think of a replacement battery. Probably cheaper one's out there but I wanted to get what I paid for so shelled out the extra.
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Hi! Thanks for the info! That's great to hear, one question, did you change the battery yourself? If so, could you provide a hint on which guide you used, that would be verry helpful:good:
The battery came with a DVD that explained it (with really bad music) but the bottom line is you pry the back off, take the 8 screws off, unplug the old - plug in the new and replace everything. Not really hard but, as I said, nerve-wracking! I was afraid I'd screw it up but it was pretty straight forward.
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The battery came with a DVD that explained it (with really bad music) but the bottom line is you pry the back off, take the 8 screws off, unplug the old - plug in the new and replace everything. Not really hard but, as I said, nerve-wracking! I was afraid I'd screw it up but it was pretty straight forward.
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That's awesome I would like to buy the same one in case something goes weird and need instructions to follow. Do you remember anything about the seller/model/site you got?
Yeah, just go to Amazon and search for "new power 99 battery replacement kit". Then pick Note 8 from the list. eBay has them too.
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Actually, here is the URL http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXZ8KRA/ref=pe_385040_127541850_TE_item
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Yeah, just go to Amazon and search for "new power 99 battery replacement kit". Then pick Note 8 from the list. eBay has them too.
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Actually, here is the URL http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXZ8KRA/ref=pe_385040_127541850_TE_item
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Will do! Thank you very much! [emoji4] [emoji106]
Any time. Hope this works for you. It did for me.
I. Had the same issues, I just took off the back cover and disconnected the cable that connected the battery. I did not need a new battery. The toughest part for me was disconnecting the battery cable... I actually had to take out the 8 screws that held the battery in place, so I could get some leverage. I only had my battery disconnected for only 5 minutes and it solved the problem for me..... Good luck!
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Bigger capacity doesn't always mean better performance and battery life. I've read many opinions that custom batteries are in 99% of cases are worse than original even if they have 500 or more Mah than stock. So it would be great if someone shares his opinion about this model but I don't think anyone will want mess with opening phone etc.
Believe me or not, You'll never find a battery better that LG original one. LG 800 charge cycle itself makes a big difference.
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Believe me or not, You'll never find a battery better that LG original one. LG 800 charge cycle itself makes a big difference.
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yeah maybe you are right but the battery is a big problem so i want a bigger battery capacity and stock battery is not the best.
spytgm said:
yeah maybe you are right but the battery is a big problem so i want a bigger battery capacity and stock battery is not the best.
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as you wish. But I suggest you to do a factory reset and with a bit of simple settings you can have a battery as great as mine. I've had calls, text messages, wireless connection, taking about 50 photos in a party, sending over 100 megabytes via bluetooth, calculator and... with 63% of screen brightness. Eco mode was first off for a day and on after.
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as you wish. But I suggest you to do a factory reset and with a bit of simple settings you can have a battery as great as mine. I've had calls, text messages, wireless connection, taking about 50 photos in a party, sending over 100 megabytes via bluetooth, calculator and... with 63% of screen brightness. Eco mode was first off for a day and on after.
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Screen time..hours?
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Screen time..hours?
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with 2 hours and 10 minutes screen on. That's what normal use is.
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with 2 hours and 10 minutes screen on. That's what normal use is.
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I get about 4,30h screen time,charging every night
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well, gaming and watching videos can easily drain the battery. This is true about every phone. considering the hardware, LGOG benefits from a OK battery. With similar specifications, Xperia ZR has a 2300 mah which doesn't make that much difference although it has a 0.1.5 inch smaller screen.
Yeah I would also like to have a better battery in this phone, I'm regularly killing the battery at the end of the day even though I charge it every night. Granted I work in a bad reception area which cranks up my radio and drains the battery, but still I think it should last the day...
If there is a third party battery that last longer I would love to know about it.
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Yeah I would also like to have a better battery in this phone, I'm regularly killing the battery at the end of the day even though I charge it every night. Granted I work in a bad reception area which cranks up my radio and drains the battery, but still I think it should last the day...
If there is a third party battery that last longer I would love to know about it.
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There can be but the one introduced here in the OP is not of high quality and may be dangerous for the device. Besides, it may not provide a better battery life. The best you could do is to request the mugen team to provide an alternative battery fo LGOG. They're really expert in their job.
How is the battery? Should I buy this phone?
I usually get 17 to 18hrs, heavy usage but no game play
Battery life is very good with custom Rom, custom kernel, some disabled services...
I love battery life, I can easily get 2 days with a single charge, wifi or 3G all the time. No games though. What is more strange is that 3G doesnt drain my battery at all.
Lavoslav said:
I love battery life, I can easily get 2 days with a single charge, wifi or 3G all the time. No games though. What is more strange is that 3G doesnt drain my battery at all.
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Battery life is very good with custom Rom, custom kernel, some disabled services...
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I usually get 17 to 18hrs, heavy usage but no game play
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But what about screen on time? How much you get? And Im gonna use clean lg Rome.
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But what about screen on time? How much you get? And Im gonna use clean lg Rome.
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Most people get about 4-5 hours of SoT on a charge. I find I can only achieve this when I have the backlight set on a low setting. I usually have it somewhere between 0-30% and the phone can last me about 30 hours on a charge. I usually charge when I'm around 15-20% though so I could technically go to about 36 hours but I don't like waiting until I'm fully depleted to recharge. If you're a daily charger, the battery life on this phone will be completely fine for most days.
(The 4-5 hours of SoT is for when the battery gets completely depleted, not what I get around 20% battery left)
If you're planning to play games most of the time, than this is not the phone for you. Games just drain the battery, I don't think it will last for more than 2, maybe 3 hours while gaming. For everything else, battery is very good.
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Battery gets winged about on this phone alot.
Myself i find it amazing - if im just using basic stuff on it every couple of hours i could easily get 3 days out of it, on standby it drains about 1% every 7 hours - that was after i used greenify.
Wifi and 3g just sitting on dont seem to affect it at all
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Wow 6 hours screen on - most i think ive seen
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If you're planning to play games most of the time, than this is not the phone for you. Games just drain the battery, I don't think it will last for more than 2, maybe 3 hours while gaming. For everything else, battery is very good.
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Not at all for gaming. Maybe just one lite game once a day.
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If you're planning to play games most of the time, than this is not the phone for you. Games just drain the battery, I don't think it will last for more than 2, maybe 3 hours while gaming. For everything else, battery is very good.
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Most people get about 4-5 hours of SoT on a charge. I find I can only achieve this when I have the backlight set on a low setting. I usually have it somewhere between 0-30% and the phone can last me about 30 hours on a charge. I usually charge when I'm around 15-20% though so I could technically go to about 36 hours but I don't like waiting until I'm fully depleted to recharge. If you're a daily charger, the battery life on this phone will be completely fine for most days.
(The 4-5 hours of SoT is for when the battery gets completely depleted, not what I get around 20% battery left)
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So battery is ok?
With sync on, brightness on auto on around 50%, some gaming, mostly low usage you can get 24 hours of the thing.
The battery is not "excellent" but it's good enough.
The battery has always been really excellent for me. Most days, I can go without charge at least until 10:30 at night, and I am a very heavy user. I have gotten over 6.5 hrs on screen time on multiple occasions. That said, my brightness settings are usually quite low, 0-30% range, and the screen still consumes about 57% of my battery usage.
The best was 112 hours, but it was a week with a lot of stuff to do and little attention paid towards the phone...usually I get 3-4 days, so 70-90 hours with medium usage, wi-fi or data used during day and all communication turned of at night. I am very pleased of the battery life of G3
I'm mostly through the day in a 4g environment with 50-70% signal strength (unscientific on what the phone shows). guess that accounts to the battery life, most likely on 3g I would squeeze more out of it, but it's not all "dandy" and "overwhelming".
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This was today, good, but low screen on time... I should reach the 24 h mark with that usage but if I would stress the thing more...
It depends on the service your getting. If I'm in a good service area it lasts forever. It's comparable to my m8 and m7 and Galaxy s3. Not much more or less.
If you do decide to buy this amazing piece of tech, download deep sleep battery saver. I noticed about a 20 percent increase in standby time.
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How is the battery? Should I buy this phone?
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I myself have the G2 and it's excellent from the specifications, everything amazing. It should even have better battery life than the G3 because of the resolution.
Anyhow I would say never LG again! The software is a mess. It's slow, laggy, bloated and has an awful design. Of course you can use Aosp roms but guess what? LG has closed sourced drivers so using an aosp rom will ruin your camera quality and battery life. It's really sad. Such an amazing phone, but ruined by the software
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I myself have the G2 and it's excellent from the specifications, everything amazing. It should even have better battery life than the G3 because of the resolution.
Anyhow I would say never LG again! The software is a mess. It's slow, laggy, bloated and has an awful design. Of course you can use Aosp roms but guess what? LG has closed sourced drivers so using an aosp rom will ruin your camera quality and battery life. It's really sad. Such an amazing phone, but ruined by the software
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I ran G3 firmware port on g2. Was just as good. Lol. Mostly anyway. But im hardcore into specs on paper. (I know) lol smh..I'm totally an upgrade hound. I snag every one. Nexus 6 by end of Nov. Lol
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I ran G3 firmware port on g2. Was just as good. Lol. Mostly anyway. But im hardcore into specs on paper. (I know) lol smh..I'm totally an upgrade hound. I snag every one. Nexus 6 by end of Nov. Lol
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I ran the G3 port too, but the difference is marginal. And it's very slow, loading caller, contacts or settings shows that LG can make one of the fastest snapdragons as "fast" as the smartphones four years ago lol. I think in the end nexus devices are the best, as they have clean and updated firmware as well as tons of good and usable custom roms.
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life battery is gooooooooood.. name rom custom ??
So I've had my S20U for a while now (almost 3 months), yet today something odd happened. I called my gf with about 20% battery left, we talked for about 30 minutes, then I started using facebook while talkin to her (i was on my home wifi network not 4g) and after a bit it started to drain the battery VERY fast. When i mean fast, I mean i could see the % going down faster then 1% per minute, more like 1% every 30 sec. I decided to quit the call at 2% and few seconds after that the Samsung logo appeared and the phone totally went off, 0%.
Now I charged it back to 100% and after 2 hours of idle its at 98% which seems to be the usual drain while idle (1%) but what I'm wondering is... what the hell happened before? Have had every Galaxy out since S2 and i've never seen a battery drain like that before. I know when battery goes down very fast its usually a sign of a serious problem with battery, but this is a 3 months old phone... since i've had it i've never let it go below 15-20% since i know its bad to let it go that down and i usually start charging it at 20%, is it possible that maybe it was calibrated bad and thus it drained so fast?
Any other ideas? Thank you.
No clue?
- Are you using superfast charging? This will deteriorate the battery quicker.
- Never let the battery (if you can) drop below 20% & avoid charging above 85% , there is enough data available to show that charging between this 65% dynamic slows the battery wear cycle considerably.
- You called with 20% , while having WiFi on & scrolling Facebook (animations use GPU power , The display drains most the battery - WQHD by any chance?)
With the utmost respect this sounds normal particularly if you let the battery die & charge to full using 3amp power output
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- Are you using superfast charging? This will deteriorate the battery quicker.
- Never let the battery (if you can) drop below 20% & avoid charging above 85% , there is enough data available to show that charging between this 65% dynamic slows the battery wear cycle considerably.
- You called with 20% , while having WiFi on & scrolling Facebook (animations use GPU power , The display drains most the battery - WQHD by any chance?)
With the utmost respect this sounds normal particularly if you let the battery die & charge to full using 3amp power output
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=== Apologies I did not see you state that you don't let it drop below 20% ? avoid charging above 85% , i use accubattery for this ===
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20% > 85% gives you 65% capacity, if the aim is to prevent battery wear, you've already just lost 35% anyway, defeats the point...
0>100% until the battery only holds 65% charge will give you way more life before you're stuck with 65% capacity, which would take years and years anyway
Not seen any data on super fast charging causing higher battery wear, I know its been a worry to people for a long time but no actual evidence, in fact I've read articles saying it does not.
Ok thanks for the replies but, let me make some points:
1 - S20U has a very fast charge for a reason. If it hurt the battery THAT bad, it would not be there. If Samsung put it there, it means they have done a lot of testing, and yes while I agree that after a year or so using it all the time you might stress the battery a bit more than with slow charge, for sure it doesnt happen after less than 3 months, and to the point of what i experienced.
2 - Again, whIile it is true that modern batteries are better kept between 20 and 80% (and its suggested when you, for example, decide to pull a battery out and keep it in a box), its also NOT true that not doing so will ruin your battery fast. I mean, your phone is made to be used, whats the point to charge it to only 80% and then have no power left during day when you're out and need it? Its just stupid. Everyone going out to work in the morning will charge it to 100%.
3 - Both 1 & 2 will help battery but thats something you'd see after a LONG TIME of using it, and the gain you see would be so little (probably about 10% ish over 20 months) that is really not even worth following those guidelines, its easier to replace the battery (or the phone, in my case, since I buy the newest model every year).
4 - What I experienced Is VERY different and for sure didnt happen for reason 1+2. And no, I always make calls while using Facebook and I've never seen the % go down that fast, like 1% every 30 sec like the other night. Something was draining the battery like I've never seen before in 9 years of Samsung Galaxy. And it happended below 20% so I'm not sure that has to do with it or not (in other words: if my phone was at 70%, would i still have had a drain so fast? who knows, maybe the problem was under 20% that was not calibrated right, but im not even sure this is possible, this is why i opened this topic).
5 - PS Most importantly: Ive never let it go below 15% since I've had it, and i probably charged it fast one time or two, i usually charge it wirless with slow recharge, so again, 1&2 makes even less sense in my case.
Ok update, it happened again. Was at 15% and i was on the phone while playing with facebook, after a while goes to 10% so i killed all tasks and shut down the screen and just talked on the phone, after less than a minute i turned screen on again to check % and was 1%. Went from 10% to 1% in about less than 60 seconds of screen off. Any idea what could be the problem?
tharghan said:
Ok update, it happened again. Was at 15% and i was on the phone while playing with facebook, after a while goes to 10% so i killed all tasks and shut down the screen and just talked on the phone, after less than a minute i turned screen on again to check % and was 1%. Went from 10% to 1% in about less than 60 seconds of screen off. Any idea what could be the problem?
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Although it could be a battery issue as advised above I'd firstly try a factory reset and install all apps as new.
If this doesn't work a call/visit to Samsung may be the best option.
bomp306 said:
Although it could be a battery issue as advised above I'd firstly try a factory reset and install all apps as new.
If this doesn't work a call/visit to Samsung may be the best option.
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I was suggested to try using *#0228# anyone got experience about it?
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
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tharghan said:
Ok thanks for the replies but, let me make some points:
1 - S20U has a very fast charge for a reason. If it hurt the battery THAT bad, it would not be there. If Samsung put it there, it means they have done a lot of testing, and yes while I agree that after a year or so using it all the time you might stress the battery a bit more than with slow charge, for sure it doesnt happen after less than 3 months, and to the point of what i experienced.
2 - Again, whIile it is true that modern batteries are better kept between 20 and 80% (and its suggested when you, for example, decide to pull a battery out and keep it in a box), its also NOT true that not doing so will ruin your battery fast. I mean, your phone is made to be used, whats the point to charge it to only 80% and then have no power left during day when you're out and need it? Its just stupid. Everyone going out to work in the morning will charge it to 100%.
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If your battery was supposed to last forever then there'd be less financial return
Learn about procurement & future proofing from a business perspective
It amazes Me that people in 2020 think that conglomerate corporations entertain ethics
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
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An additional caveat is the fact that the note 4 was (I think) samsungs last flagship that allowed for removable batteries , hence so many folk still use the phone today.
This notion does not help Samsung ; sentiment to their moral stance , or lack of.
Business is business eh ??
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know.i.dee said:
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
Here's some research conducted by folk who can go beyond speculation
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If your battery was supposed to last forever then there'd be less financial return
Learn about procurement & future proofing from a business perspective
It amazes Me that people in 2020 think that conglomerate corporations entertain ethics
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/202397985-AccuBattery-Research-and-Methodology
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An additional caveat is the fact that the note 4 was (I think) samsungs last flagship that allowed for removable batteries , hence so many folk still use the phone today.
This notion does not help Samsung ; sentiment to their moral stance , or lack of.
Business is business eh
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Sorry to say but your post does nothing to fix my problem (which is the reason why i started this thread) and only adds noise. Nobody said a battery is supposed to last forever. What we said is that you arent very smart if you buy a 1370 Euro phone and then charge it very slow all the time, keep it always between 20 and 80%, and never charge it to 100%, and all this to have the battery last a bit longer after 2 years. If you buy a 1370 Euro phone chances are that the next year you wont even have the same phone, and if you still have it after 2 years, 55 bucks for a new battery is nothing.
In other words, doing everything to preserve battery is just retarded, its a matter of cost vs gain, its just not worth. And telling people not tu use very fast charge because it will deteriorate battery quicker IS RETARDED, period. Because you assume that after a year the difference between a phone using always very fast charge, and using slow charge, is huge, meanwhile it isnt. The real problem with batteries is that they deteriorate over time no matter what. You could be super careful but still after 3 years your battery will be nowhere as good as it was when it was new, degrading it a bit with fast charge or charging to 100% makes very little difference in the big scheme of things. And people at accubattery are stupid, they tell us to stop charging the phone at 80%. Hello, I'm supposed to buy a 1370 Euro smartphone and leave home in the morning at 80% and be careful about what i do during the day because it could drain my battery and then go even below 20, or even totally run out since i started at 80%? Or maybe they think people buy a phone like that to use it while sittin their asses off on a chair playing on the pc and charging always between 20 and 80%? Come on, nosense at its best. You buy a phone to USE it. You buy an expensive smartphone to freaking use it as much as you can. Nobody at Apple tells iphone users "hey dont do this, dont do that, dont charge too many times, dont charge too little, bla bla".
PS if you're so worried about using the phone like you should do, dont install and save too much stuff in the internal memory, it'll wear out in the long run. hell, dont even use it too much, the screen itself isnt infinite.
I was on the 20%-80% bandwagon for a while, but just created more battery anxiety (hypervigilance about going below 20% and "overcharging" above 80%). I finally acknowledged that I never keep a phone long enough to see any real benefit of coddling the battery this way. Now I just use my phone how I want to use it, charge it when it needs to be charged, and don't obsess about long-term battery health. If I *do* keep a phone long enough to notice battery degradation, then I'll just replace the battery. The $100 or whatever it costs is worth not worrying about keeping the battery within some magical range.
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I was on the 20%-80% bandwagon for a while, but just created more battery anxiety (hypervigilance about going below 20% and "overcharging" above 80%). I finally acknowledged that I never keep a phone long enough to see any real benefit of coddling the battery this way. Now I just use my phone how I want to use it, charge it when it needs to be charged, and don't obsess about long-term battery health. If I *do* keep a phone long enough to notice battery degradation, then I'll just replace the battery. The $100 or whatever it costs is worth not worrying about keeping the battery within some magical range.
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?? I'm definitely not anxious , if my battery drains it drains , I'm just saying & simply posed a potential in an attempt to help , doesn't work for you or you don't like it don't entertain it
Maintenance is key to longevity +I'm not into phones like most people. If Swapping phones every frickin year is satiating then yeah go hell for leather , it's ip68 , you could take it in the shower too
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tharghan said:
. Nobody at Apple tells iphone users "hey dont do this, dont do that, dont charge too many times, dont charge too little, bla bla".
PS if you're so worried about using the phone like you should do, dont install and save too much stuff in the internal memory, it'll wear out in the long run. hell, dont even use it too much, the screen itself isnt infinite.
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Just an idea , doesn't help - apologies & ignore it
Do what the feck you want - good luck with your issue
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