[Q] Is the Verizon Galaxy Nexus Still Worth It? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Is the Galaxy Nexus still worth it on Verizon half a year after launch? I'm looking to get a phone, and yes it has to be Verizon, and this is really the only appealing one. Don't feel like playing the waiting game.

Yes if you want AOSP android and are willing to deal with potential issues.

m0b1l3 said:
I'm looking to get a phone, and yes it has to be Verizon, and this is really the only appealing one.
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So... you answered your own question.

joshnichols189 said:
Yes if you want AOSP android and are willing to deal with potential issues.
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Damn I just ordered mine.. what issues.. ?
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mursepaolo said:
Damn I just ordered mine.. what issues.. ?
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Just read the forums. People complain about anything and everything. There actually are real issues with signal, call quality and software hiccups... although they effect people differently.
Just use your device. Don't go looking for issues.

Okay, but do you think Verizon's gonna get the s3? Honestly though, I don't really like it. I don't even know if they're gonna change the processor for LTE. Is there a better phone on Verizon?

m0b1l3 said:
Okay, but do you think Verizon's gonna get the s3?
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Nobody knows.
Honestly though, I don't really like it. I don't even know if they're gonna change the processor for LTE.
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Okay... then you don't care.
Is there a better phone on Verizon?
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Completely subjective. Go try them all and do your research then decide. How can I know what you want?

Yes, Verizon along with the other two big carriers as well as US Cellular is getting the S3.
Problems with the Nexus:
1. battery life is terrible. buy the extended battery from VZW, makes a world of difference.
2. Can't transfer data off the phone via usb.

jgarozzo said:
2. Can't transfer data off the phone via usb.
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Uh. Yes you can. Plug it in, open Windows Explorer (or Android File Transfer on OSX) and transfer files.

jgarozzo said:
2. Can't transfer data off the phone via usb.
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Can't tell if serious..

Yes, the Verizon Nexus is worth it. Its easily still the best Verizon phone available right now (unless you want the Razor Maxx's battery life).
Like all current smart phones, it's not perfect, but I've found that the latest 4.0.4 update has cleared up most of my software problems. (Been running a leaked build for about a month now, though I switched to stock yesterday so I could get the official OTA update - which came through a couple hours ago).
Only complaints for me right now are hardware related: so-so camera, screen banding, and status bar burn in on the screen (this may or may not be a hardware failure, as some other phones I've seen don't have the issue, but then others have it MUCH worse as well).
I should also note that I live in Phoenix and have great LTE coverage, so I can't comment on any of the network issues that some people have reported.
Ultimately, I would say pick it up and try it out for a while. If it doesn't work for you take it back and wait for another phone to come out.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

I'm having the same dilemma as well, although I have begun leaning heavily to the Gnex simply because after going to the store and checking out the Razr Maxx, it just looked terribly ugly to me.
The sad part is a major deciding factor for me leaning towards the gnex was that I assumed it had an unlocked bootloader (ITS A NEXUS). Now that I know it is not unlocked, I am back on the fence. I know it can be easily unlocked, but that voids the warranty (if they can tell...), do you guys really think VZW would decline a return or exchange based on the bootloader?

juntistik said:
The sad part is a major deciding factor for me leaning towards the gnex was that I assumed it had an unlocked bootloader (ITS A NEXUS). Now that I know it is not unlocked, I am back on the fence. I know it can be easily unlocked, but that voids the warranty (if they can tell...), do you guys really think VZW would decline a return or exchange based on the bootloader?
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Sigh... You realize that having a phone ship with an unlocked bootloader would be a HUGE security problem? Giving full access to the hardware without any user intervention, how is that a good idea?
People need to seriously understand the difference between a locked bootloader (which ALL phones should have by stock) and an encrypted bootloader, which is one that is locked, and not easily unlockable (requires an exploit to unlock).
Just because its locked by default, doesn't mean it can't be unlocked. It literally takes 1 command line prompt: "fastboot oem unlock" to unlock that bootloader and do whatever you want with the device. It can also be easily relocked with just 1 more command prompt as well. Verizon cannot tell you've unlocked once you've locked again, and as long as you're not stupid enough to return a non-stock phone, they will never deny you a warranty claim.
Read up on the subject before you start pulling out these stupid, baseless complaints. I'm tired of hearing people complain about locked vs unlocked bootloaders when they clearly have no idea what it actually means or offers them.

martonikaj said:
Sigh... You realize that having a phone ship with an unlocked bootloader would be a HUGE security problem? Giving full access to the hardware without any user intervention, how is that a good idea?
People need to seriously understand the difference between a locked bootloader (which ALL phones should have by stock) and an encrypted bootloader, which is one that is locked, and not easily unlockable (requires an exploit to unlock).
Just because its locked by default, doesn't mean it can't be unlocked. It literally takes 1 command line prompt: "fastboot oem unlock" to unlock that bootloader and do whatever you want with the device. It can also be easily relocked with just 1 more command prompt as well. Verizon cannot tell you've unlocked once you've locked again, and as long as you're not stupid enough to return a non-stock phone, they will never deny you a warranty claim.
Read up on the subject before you start pulling out these stupid, baseless complaints. I'm tired of hearing people complain about locked vs unlocked bootloaders when they clearly have no idea what it actually means or offers them.
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^This
This is the way all Nexus phones have been. You should be grateful Samsung lets you re-lock the bootloaders in case you have any issues. The HTC Nexus One was a permanent unlock.

Gnex is you want Android
iP4 if you want iOS
Those are pretty much the best phones on VZW at the moment.

You shouldn't worry too much about the locked boot loader on the Nexus. It's REALLY easy to unlock/re-lock the phone as needed.
If you're not comfortable doing it manually you can always download a tool to take care of the process for you.
For example: I just used the WugFresh Galaxy Nexus tool to return my phone to it's stock software, with a locked boot loader, so that I could try out the ota 4.0.4 update for a while. As far as anyone else can tell it's always run the stock version of Android and hasn't been fiddled with.
It's also good to remember that unlocking the boot loader on the Nexus doesn't require you to download some b.s. tool like HTC is using, and there's no official record of you playing with your phone.
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tell them your having problems with service, continuous dropped calls, get out of your contract. find an area that gets terrible verizon service, tell them your moving there. they will allow you out. they go grab t-mobile

I've had mine for a couple days and love it!! LTE is awesome, AOKP is awesome and the size is the best!!! Def a good phone still to look at.
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Apparently the s3 is about to come out on Verizon? Do you think I should still go with the GNex? I absolutely hate the design of the s3, and I'm not thinking the quad cor is gonna stay. 2 GB ram however.

Drop Verizon and get the gsm version
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Keep VZW Gnex?

Hey everybody. So I've had this device since December and when the 4.0.4 update was released for VZW users, I was not able to update. Upon further research, I found out that there was a mistake in the factory and the recovery image was not flashed, meaning I could not update software or perform factory resets. I brought it into Verizon and got a replacement, but I got a refurb with terrible signal issues. I went back to Verizon and they told me I could get a new phone. I am now eligible to get a new phone for free as a replacement. I purposely kept the Gnex until now so I could swap it out for the SIII that is releasing tomorrow. I actually fixed my Gnex on my own by flashing stock images of the 4.0.4 manually. So the question is, should I revert my phone back to 4.0.2 and leave out the recovery image when flashing in order to get the SIII, or keep my Gnex which is now working perfectly fine?
jttate04 said:
Hey everybody. So I've had this device since December and when the 4.0.4 update was released for VZW users, I was not able to update. Upon further research, I found out that there was a mistake in the factory and the recovery image was not flashed, meaning I could not update software or perform factory resets. I brought it into Verizon and got a replacement, but I got a refurb with terrible signal issues. I went back to Verizon and they told me I could get a new phone. I am now eligible to get a new phone for free as a replacement. I purposely kept the Gnex until now so I could swap it out for the SIII that is releasing tomorrow. I actually fixed my Gnex on my own by flashing stock images of the 4.0.4 manually. So the question is, should I revert my phone back to 4.0.2 and leave out the recovery image when flashing in order to get the SIII, or keep my Gnex which is now working perfectly fine?
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Keep the gnex and flash jellybean or cm9/aokp
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If you want the extra RAM and locked bootloader, take it back and get the SIII.
If you want a phone with 4.1.1 today keep the Nexus, go to development section and flash jellybean already
Really wish people would grow a pair and just choose the device that they want, rather than asking a bunch of strangers that know nothing about them.
martonikaj said:
Really wish people would grow a pair and just choose the device that they want, rather than asking a bunch of strangers that know nothing about them.
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It's perfectly valid for someone to seek the opinions of others to help them in their decision.
Do mods matter to you
If you want to be able to easily load mods to your phone keep the Galaxy Nexus. If you want a painless, but Verizon-controlled environment get the SIII. If I was in your position I'd keep the Gnex, but your priorities may be different.
It really depends on what you're going to do with your phone. If you go the GS3 route, just be aware that given the current situation with the locked bootloader, your ability to customize the phone will be compromised, until devs really find an effective way to bypass the bootloader. There is the Developer Edition of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but that seems to be only available through Samsung and not Verizon.
At least by sticking with the Nexus, you have access to all the available custom roms now, as well as JB and so forth.
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CKTurbo128 said:
It really depends on what you're going to do with your phone. If you go the GS3 route, just be aware that given the current situation with the locked bootloader, your ability to customize the phone will be compromised, until devs really find an effective way to bypass the bootloader. There is the Developer Edition of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but that seems to be only available through Samsung and not Verizon.
At least by sticking with the Nexus, you have access to all the available custom roms now, as well as JB and so forth.
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Don't forget the wonderful gift of touchwiz
Has Google released the links for JellyBean for LTE Devices yet? I'm not using a GSM
jttate04 said:
Has Google released the links for JellyBean for LTE Devices yet? I'm not using a GSM
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No. There's no Verizon or Sprint OTAs yet. Source is out for GSM and Verizon though.
I'd get the GS3. If you find out you made the wrong choice you can sell the GS3 and re-buy a Nexus and make $.
You fixed terrible signal issues by flashing the phone? That's weird as signal issues have been reported as hardware related all over this forum.
But as its now fixed and working for you, I'd certainly keep it..There's a reason why you bought it in the first place, since its working why not keep it and save your upgrade.
For me, after having the freedom of a unlocked bootloader I'm not sure I can ever own a non-nexus device again!

is the att version locked down like the note 3?

The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
powdered_donuts said:
The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Probably...Maybe...Absolutely and most Definitely LOCKED.
powdered_donuts said:
The note 3 is a great piece of hardware but it was a nightmare for devs I hope they backtrack on that with this one. Not getting my hopes up though.
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Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
chrispyutec said:
Of course it will be locked down!!! Us consumers never really OWN our phone that WE purchase!!! So tired of AT&T and others. I sure hope Geohot can bring us some towelroot
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Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
powdered_donuts said:
Root took a long time for the note 3 but in the end the real fight was and still is the bootloaders. No custom kernels means even with root all you get is basically a bunch of differently themed semi customized stock Roms to play with
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That's right. I gave up my AT&T note 3 for T-Mobile S5 just for the unlocked bootloader. Although I really would like to see the bootloader unlocked, I can kinda live without unlocked bootloader if I have at least root. I will no longer buy a phone if I can't at least get root. I always wait until root has been achieved before making any purchase. Gotta love HTC for not locking down, but I just don't like their phones that much.
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
I have the same very question.
Being on ATT, will the Note 4 be able to be Rooted, and even more important, allow Custom Recovery for ROM's ? If not, NO WAY I can get the Note 4. And Safestrap is not an option, that's a handicapped and gimped wannabe recovery.
Nice thing with HTC, they openly and officially allow their One M8 to have the bootloader unlocked directly through HTC's own website. I did just that with my ATT carrier One M8, and converted it to a GPE. Would like to see Samsung allow that too.
Without a doubt it will be locked.
Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
powdered_donuts said:
Ikr! I had T-Mobile but we moved a few years back to an area where they don't have service really at all. I wish I could let them pay my termination fees and bring my four lines there I would save money too. Oh well..
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Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
mircury said:
Get the Tmobile device instead and use it on ATT. Don't be pulled in by the ATT Next hype\propaganda either. You still pay full price for the device. Why not get one that you actually own.
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Yeah I know I'm not falling for the next plan and all that crap not interested in adding more to my monthly bill. I thought about getting the T-Mobile version but I'm starting to just lean towards getting a nexus from google when the new one comes out. Hate to leave Samsung behind but I'm feeling like the time has come to move on
mircury said:
99.999% sure the ATT version will have a locked bootloader. This means it will always be a cat and mouse game with root.
My advice is to wait and not pre-order anything yet. Let the dust settle and see which device will work for you and have root available.
1. You have to ask yourself how long do you normally keep phones? Can you afford to wait 6 months or more (or never if you accidentally take an update) for root on an ATT device you are going to have for 1-2 years?
2. The Tmobile version will most likely have an unlocked bootloader which means you never have to worry about root. It will also most likely work on ATT like the GS5 and the Note3 before it and it will have updates long after Tmobile and Samsung stop supporting it.
If you have Tmobile in your area and you want root it really is the best way to go and cheaper. Why not give them a try? The next best is a Tmobile device on ATT, and third, well.... forget about root.
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Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
chong67 said:
Not a good idea. If you want the phone, go get it now. I remember very well that after someone root the HTC phone with s-off, they make it not rootable with it being s-off. It took many months and ransom money for hacker to find it get rid of the s-off.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope that an exploit will be found, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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Very, very bad advise. You are basically advising people to buy and hope, and it's a bad gamble at most. Have you gotten any recent Samsung phones? We aren't talking HTC here. Look at the Note 3, Galaxy S4 and S5 history. I'm not saying you shouldn't buy the phone. I'm saying you should not pre-order it or get it on day one. With the Tmobile note 3 it took a week and a half after release to confirm that it had an unlocked bootloader. At that point a custom recovery was ODIN flashable and root was forever available. It was even faster to confirm that the ATT version was locked down and as of today the bootloader has NEVER been cracked! No CM or AOSP! Only stock kernels are usable. The same with the ATT S5. The bootloader is still locked down. Root has been obtained through an exploit that has since been patched. So if you take an update you are screwed. A bootloader exploit for the latest samsung devices has not been found for the ATT S4, S5, and Note 3 for 1.5 years now.
I have a huge info thread over in the ATT Note 3 section if you want to read it.
My point is, wait for confirmation that a particular device is bootloader unlocked before you put down $750 on a device.
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better advice! But you can certainly blindly guarantee that at&t is locked down.
Am I wanting Root for wrong reasons?
I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Don't forget adaway, my number 1 use for root, and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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..., and ya you should be looking at the tmo note. That's coming from someone who did it on the 3rd gen note.
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I'll probably look into that. I typically take advantage of subsidy, but may be worth going with TMO. If the Note 4 had 4GB mem, that would make it easier to make the extra spend. I was hoping for a phone that I may be happy with for longer than 2 years. (Of course the root issue may be the driving factor for purchasing the TMO version, irrespective of other considerations).
ewingr said:
I have been rooting and installing custom ROMS for a few years now. All Samsung phones.
I'm growing tired of custom ROMS. While some are very solid, I have not tried any at all that don't have one problem or another. So, I'm hoping I can be satisfied with just rooting and maybe even staying on TW. I'll be trying to analyze the features I'd lose from Nova if I stay on TW, vs the TW features of the Note 4 I'd lose by going to Nova.
But my main question is do I really NEED root? I'm thinking I want it in order to do true backups (with more concern about data than backing up apps). I am of the impression that data backups may not be possible w/o root. True? Or, depending on App? I know that TIBU seems to want root...I've never tried to use TIBU w/o root.
Also, I use other apps that seem to work better with root, ie. Lightflow, TIBU, Tasker (a must), ES File Explorer, Gravity Box, Notification Shortcuts, Utter, Widget Locker, and others I suppose.
Seems to me I NEED root. Am I misinformed?
Maybe the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 is what I should look for.
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Totally agree with you on all points. Except not sure we "have to root". The Note 4 will be able to handle all "Bloatware" and still fly. Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data. No Nandroid, but if you are not rooting and running the risk of soft bricking and needing to restore a Nandroid, they won't be needed. The cloud for Google will always be there to restore those accounts. The rest you can backup to your sdcard and pc. Not sure I need theming like Xposed offers. As, I am liking the stock look of the S5 which I am running on my S4.
That all being said I would probably get a TMO one on ATT if LTE runs fine and root/flash roms since it is in the blood at this point--
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..Koush's Helium does a good job backing up apps/data...
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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Glad you posted this. I had not heard of Helium. I'll have to check it out.
One thing I like to be able to do is backup and restore just data. I'll have to see if that can be done. It's interesting that it doesn't require root, when everything else does.
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Just went to Play Store, and leaves me a bit confuse. The instructions are a bit confusing, as 1a says "Root user? You're done", then goes on to say to install on the PC, which implies to me if non-rooted, you must do backups to PC.
I'll go and read the Wiki.
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A few things that are discouraging, from the WIKI, re: Helium:
If you're using a non-root device, you MUST connect to a PC via the USB port of your device to enable ADB backup permissions.
In problematic applications, ALL Google Apps are listed
...you are using a non-root device, you need to enable Helium at every reboot of the device. This is a PITA
You made a backup to a removable SD card. Again, not advisable as mounting then re-mounting a physical card between devices is problematic for backups. Use PC Download, a cloud destination or device-to-device sync.
Those are just the issues I'm not sure I'd want to mess with. So, hoping to ultimately achieve ROOT.
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You can try MyBackUp Pro from Play Store--Have used it for years. Assuming it updates for Note 4--sure it will. You can email them--

[Q] Noob questions about rooting for this phone

1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
89titanium said:
1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
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Im sure there will be root. but it will take a while, and i dont see anybody posting on the dev section talking about root. so probobly in afew months, once they read the source of the OS, and figure out how to make root.
Im from big red, and they always lock there bootloaders. so thats alittle more work and codeing which turns into abit more waiting time if you want custom roms. but G4 seems like a pretty popular phone, so im sure root will come eventually
89titanium said:
1) Is this phone likely to get root soon after release? Just based on LG history or whatever is known about the phone so far.
2) Does being on Verizon usually mean waiting longer or not getting root access at all? If Verizon-rooted phones are rare, please let me know some good alternatives.
Thanks all for putting up with me.
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This phone hasn't been fully released yet. It will def get root. I'd give it a month or so.
I have Verizon and the G3 was unlocked within 3 months. I'm hoping since this is Qualcomm's first hexa-core, there'll be some exploits to gain root/unlock BL faster. Take it from a Sammy guy, WAIT THE FEW MONTHS. Samsung hasn't seen an unlocked BL for Verizon in 2 years.
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yep, probably gonna pull the trigger on the att g4 with their nasty corporate locked BL crap. I'd normally be concerned about root, but in this case I'm not terribly worried, because this phone will have SO much attention in the dev community. now, getting the att BL unlocked to run twrp... that's another story and could be a very long time if at all (just for the att version).

What's going to be your next device?

My deepest apologies if this is in the wrong place, but I need to ask this question some place. If this has been asked before, the search did not return anything that caught my eye, please feel free to point me in the correct direction! Considering that I have Verizon as a carrier and live in the US, I thought I would ask this audience to see what device has caught your eye!
My upgrade date is drawing near and I need to decide on a device that I want to give a shot next, and I would like to avoid being disappointed in my next device.
What is your next device going to be, and why?
I have been keeping my eye on the newest Nexus (now the Pixel) phones, but I really can't see myself giving up my sd card slot. I am also kind of partial to the removable battery.
I really like this phone, but the development has been poor due to Verizon's locked bootloader. I have a feeling this will be the case with ALL Verizon phones, but I have unlocked bootloaders in the past (Even my Note 3 finally got a bootloader unlock!).
My real pull to the Nexus/Pixel was the fact that it's a Google phone, it gets the latest Operating System updates, and AFAIK they were able to unlock the bootloader in the past (please correct me if I am wrong, as I have not really ever owned a Nexus device).
I really enjoy the ability to install a custom Rom and modify the OS (I LOATHE the stock DPI on most devices!!!) and I can't exactly get tethering on my package (but there is usually an app for that ). I would like to find something powerful enough to keep me happy for the next few months, because lets face it, we all start to long for a new device.
Thank you for your time and consideration!
b3y0ndd34th said:
My deepest apologies if this is in the wrong place, but I need to ask this question some place. If this has been asked before, the search did not return anything that caught my eye, please feel free to point me in the correct direction! Considering that I have Verizon as a carrier and live in the US, I thought I would ask this audience to see what device has caught your eye!
My upgrade date is drawing near and I need to decide on a device that I want to give a shot next, and I would like to avoid being disappointed in my next device.
What is your next device going to be, and why?
I have been keeping my eye on the newest Nexus (now the Pixel) phones, but I really can't see myself giving up my sd card slot. I am also kind of partial to the removable battery.
I really like this phone, but the development has been poor due to Verizon's locked bootloader. I have a feeling this will be the case with ALL Verizon phones, but I have unlocked bootloaders in the past (Even my Note 3 finally got a bootloader unlock!).
My real pull to the Nexus/Pixel was the fact that it's a Google phone, it gets the latest Operating System updates, and AFAIK they were able to unlock the bootloader in the past (please correct me if I am wrong, as I have not really ever owned a Nexus device).
I really enjoy the ability to install a custom Rom and modify the OS (I LOATHE the stock DPI on most devices!!!) and I can't exactly get tethering on my package (but there is usually an app for that ). I would like to find something powerful enough to keep me happy for the next few months, because lets face it, we all start to long for a new device.
Thank you for your time and consideration!
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I had the G4 for over a year and just upgraded to the HTC 10
pettigrew95 said:
I had the G4 for over a year and just upgraded to the HTC 10
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How are you liking it? And how is the development?
Are you a heavy phone user? What is the battery life like?
b3y0ndd34th said:
How are you liking it? And how is the development?
Are you a heavy phone user? What is the battery life like?
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The phone itself is awesome but I'm having some battery issues and trying to pinpoint what is causing the poor battery life. Development is fantastic since S-OFF and root were achieved via the Sunshine APK. There are tons of ROMs and kernels to flash. I miss having a removable battery but the HTC 10 does have a micro-SD slot.
I'm not in the market for a new phone to replace my G4 yet, but after getting a bootloop replacement with the first gen manufacturing date, I probably will be looking sooner rather than later. I get to stay on the unlimited data family share plan through a corporate discount, so I'm kind of curious if VZW still subsidizes new phones on those lines. If so, I'd miss out on the savings if I were to get a Pixel, which I presume will only be offered at full price. I've been out of the loop since MM came out and made it harder to mod Android, so it's good to see that at least there are some non-developer version phones out there still.

OnePlus 7t using verizon- bootloader unlock question

Hi.
Just had high level verizon tech fix my cdma-less on my account and I have this great working phone that says T-Mobile on the init boot screen but is actually running Verizon.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, (why do I always have to do this? I think I have a sickness... I just... cant... help it....) why would the standard fastboot unlock not work? I was thinking of trying it when I get home just to see what happens. I already have the dev/OEM unlock selected. Plus the phone says it is already unlocked for any service. Most posts are tmobile posts relying on a 7 day wait from tmobile to get a code/something... I am thinking that would not apply to me for better or worse.
I really just need root for a complete blackout theme and pull off a few bloatware tmobile apps. But it runs so good now, as is, that it really isnt imperative.
Oh, I see. I need an unlock token. bummer
Well yes and no about the token. I have a HD1907 working very nicely on verizon, but I'm on the global firmware and did not have to wait a week for the token.
Edit: My first oneplus phone and I'm not sure I get exactly why a lot do not like 7t but I'm really digging and loving the phone.
jmkarnai01 said:
Well yes and no about the token. I have a HD1907 working very nicely on verizon, but I'm on the global firmware and did not have to wait a week for the token.
Edit: My first oneplus phone and I'm not sure I get exactly why a lot do not like 7t but I'm really digging and loving the phone.
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I put in a request for the token and will wait a week. I see how it can be done as you mentioned. I am thinking I will be cool with just magisk modding the boot img and getting root that way. Keeping everything else as is. I really dig the oneplus ui.
After having a bunch of other phones throughout the years, I can say that this oneplus is just very nice. I have no complaints, just compliments. If this is how oneplus devices are then I was missing out before! *except the strange wait time for unlocking the bootloader via-oneplus*
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/t-mobile-7t-conversion-to-international-t4153943
This is what you need
aer0zer0 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t/how-to/t-mobile-7t-conversion-to-international-t4153943
This is what you need
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Thanks. I will try this tonight.
** I am now rooted.
I feel blessed to have such a fast and smooth phone. A mix of substratum themes helped blackout my phone.
canezila said:
Hi.
Just had high level verizon tech fix my cdma-less on my account and I have this great working phone that says T-Mobile on the init boot screen but is actually running Verizon.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, (why do I always have to do this? I think I have a sickness... I just... cant... help it....) why would the standard fastboot unlock not work? I was thinking of trying it when I get home just to see what happens. I already have the dev/OEM unlock selected. Plus the phone says it is already unlocked for any service. Most posts are tmobile posts relying on a 7 day wait from tmobile to get a code/something... I am thinking that would not apply to me for better or worse.
I really just need root for a complete blackout theme and pull off a few bloatware tmobile apps. But it runs so good now, as is, that it really isnt imperative.
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Got any tips for getting them to activate cdma-less? Everytime I've tried they just say they don't have the option and just resort to my device not being compatible.
ammmze said:
Got any tips for getting them to activate cdma-less? Everytime I've tried they just say they don't have the option and just resort to my device not being compatible.
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Threatening to change to TMobile or similar
canezila said:
Hi.
Just had high level verizon tech fix my cdma-less on my account and I have this great working phone that says T-Mobile on the init boot screen but is actually running Verizon.
Regarding unlocking the bootloader, (why do I always have to do this? I think I have a sickness... I just... cant... help it....) why would the standard fastboot unlock not work? I was thinking of trying it when I get home just to see what happens. I already have the dev/OEM unlock selected. Plus the phone says it is already unlocked for any service. Most posts are tmobile posts relying on a 7 day wait from tmobile to get a code/something... I am thinking that would not apply to me for better or worse.
I really just need root for a complete blackout theme and pull off a few bloatware tmobile apps. But it runs so good now, as is, that it really isnt imperative.
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Hello, I just purchased a 7T that I am planning to use on Visible (Verizon network) I was looking through the forum and saw your post. Did you initially have a problem running the 7T on the Verizon network? I s that the reason you had the tech working to fix your CDMA account? I'm trying to decide if I want to go through the hastle or just switch to another provider where I can just use the phone.
hermdresh said:
Hello, I just purchased a 7T that I am planning to use on Visible (Verizon network) I was looking through the forum and saw your post. Did you initially have a problem running the 7T on the Verizon network? I s that the reason you had the tech working to fix your CDMA account? I'm trying to decide if I want to go through the hastle or just switch to another provider where I can just use the phone.
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Mostly to fix sms/mms

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