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[Poll] Do you use face unlock, pattern, etc?

Just curious about what kind of security people use to unlock their phones. I played with the face unlock when I first got the GN but eventually got too impatient. I'm trying to decide if continuing to "Improve face matching" will eventually make it fast almost every time, or if I should just go ahead and switch to pattern or pin.

If you lock your phone, I found face unlock minimize touching the screen and thus less blur on screen
But sometimes I feel face unlock delay my logging into the phone in case I want to do something quick.... I still prefer pattern unlock
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I used to have no pin because I like the stock lockscreen and being able to put SMS phone etc in the slide to unlock. Now that aokp has the option for both I use pin and lockscreen. Feels like iPhone lock exactly
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I use pattern..but not for security reasons at all. I got tired of pocket dialing people.
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.

While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it

virtualcertainty said:
Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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Yeah, pin and password are the only two that are very secure, but I just use slide. My mentality is, I'd be much more concerned if someone got ahold of my wallet with all my cash, ids, cards, etc, but I don't put a lock on that. I just keep it with me all the time, same as my phone. I've never lost either and don't plan to! But I do have SeekDroid just in case.

Face Unlock, just so that when I get into the homescreen, JuiceDefender has turn on my Data Connection. Oh, and too impress friends too

Face Unlock.
It is much better than nothing and I don't want to key in the PIN every time the screen is locked.
I never carry my own photo with me other than the one on my driver license which I confirmed would not unlock my phone. So I don't see why people say Face Unlock is useless.

I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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kensingtn5 said:
While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it
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Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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str355 said:
I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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how do you get the phone to send you the pic?

I like to use the pattern, but it gets annoying when I'm just sitting at home texting back and forth, as I have to unlock it every single time. I end up turning the security off lol. Sometimes I'm good and turn it back on when I leave the house.

neotekz said:
how do you get the phone to send you the pic?
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It's the cerberus app.

virtualcertainty said:
Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.

Amowagou said:
After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.
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Under security settings click 'Owner info' to turn it on. Shows whatever message you want to the hopefully honest person who finds your phone. Only hitch is that if the phone is plugged in it just says "charging xx%" rather than the message. Don't know if that is a bug or if Google just figured that if your phone is plugged in it is probably not lost.

I'm using a PIN because I installed unlock with WiFi and it requires it. When I'm on a registered WiFi network I just slide to unlock.

virtualcertainty said:
Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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also, i feel that pattern unlock can be easily seen & remembered by people standing behind you even from quite a distance, as compared to pin/password lock

No. I'm ugly enough and don't need to be reminded of it constantly.
Neat trick though.

i wish there is a slide --> pattern unlock. i want the quick camera access and pattern

on demand lockscreen?

searched but couldn't find it so hopefully someone can help.....
i always have my phone right next to me but have my phone set up with a pattern unlock security for those moments that i leave it somewhere in a hurry and not worry about someone being able to get into my stuff but since 95% its right next to me i hate having to do the pattern unlock even though i can do the pattern fast i prefer not have too... so is there an app or shortcut so i can have my phone without a lock but for those quick moments that i need it locked i can activate it with just pressing that app instead of having to go into settings and manually setting it up again then remove it?

Not sure if there is an app specifically for that. Best I can think of is you might be able to set a condition using a app like tasker or impel. Basically, "if I press this button then enable this" I'm not sure how well or if this would even work but its worth a look I suppose.
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I have been using no lock from the market.. It works great to flip your lock screen on or off. Works great on GB.. Flaky on ICS
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock
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Ma$etas said:
searched but couldn't find it so hopefully someone can help.....
i always have my phone right next to me but have my phone set up with a pattern unlock security for those moments that i leave it somewhere in a hurry and not worry about someone being able to get into my stuff but since 95% its right next to me i hate having to do the pattern unlock even though i can do the pattern fast i prefer not have too... so is there an app or shortcut so i can have my phone without a lock but for those quick moments that i need it locked i can activate it with just pressing that app instead of having to go into settings and manually setting it up again then remove it?
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I don't know of any particular app that does that but I just set my security settings to automatically lock with a delay. I generally leave it at about one or two minutes.

pcmanager said:
I have been using no lock from the market.. It works great to flip your lock screen on or off. Works great on GB.. Flaky on ICS
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock
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I am using NO LOCK right now on ICS and yea it's not perfect but I can keep the PIN CODE lockscreen and then use the app to disable it when I want.

MrDowntown12 said:
Not sure if there is an app specifically for that. Best I can think of is you might be able to set a condition using a app like tasker or impel. Basically, "if I press this button then enable this" I'm not sure how well or if this would even work but its worth a look I suppose.
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Tried figuring that out but couldnt find a solution. thanks either way.
pcmanager said:
I have been using no lock from the market.. It works great to flip your lock screen on or off. Works great on GB.. Flaky on ICS
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock
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Tried this and so far working great just what i was looking for. Hopefully someone can figure out a way for the phone to do it without having to install a third party app, but for now NO LOCK is working great. Thanks.
rwilco12 said:
I don't know of any particular app that does that but I just set my security settings to automatically lock with a delay. I generally leave it at about one or two minutes.
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I did this but ill use it for a quick minute or less then it will shut off then at the time i turn the screen back on its locked and i have to unlock it and what i wanted was when suddenly i have to put my phone down and i want it to be locked with a push of a button without having to go into settings and setting it up . thanks either way as well.

Tasker will do anything you can possibly think of. Including this.
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I use delayed lock and it's perfect for me.
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No Lock No Work But...
No Lock didn't work but a different app from the store call No Lock Screen works like a charm (for the exact problem you described).

hey @Ma$etas , do you found another app or way to solve your problem ?
Same as you, I need on demand lock screen, I lock when I want. I didn't want to unlock using pattern or pin every time I use my phone.
But, I need to lock it sometimes. If I left my phone on desk, when I'm sleeping and any other condition

smart_thingup said:
hey @Ma$etas , do you found another app or way to solve your problem ?
Same as you, I need on demand lock screen, I lock when I want. I didn't want to unlock using pattern or pin every time I use my phone.
But, I need to lock it sometimes. If I left my phone on desk, when I'm sleeping and any other condition
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No, i never did . I remember i tried a few apps but they all had one or other issue.
I gave up on looking for one and just manually set it up .

Ma$etas said:
No, i never did . I remember i tried a few apps but they all had one or other issue.
I gave up on looking for one and just manually set it up .
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Ooohh so sad
like I do, until now i'm still do manual screen lock as needed

Which security do you use? Face Pattern Pin Pass

what one do you use i use face unlock because of the speed hby

it varies on the level of security I need. lol
face unlock is sweet but doesnt work in low lighting
pattern is cool but easy for peeking eyes to guess your code (found this out hard way lol)
plus ive got into peoples phones just by looking at the pattern left in the oil on the screen LMAO!
so for me, i use pin more than anything

I went old school with this one. I do not let other people have access to my phone.

Ha yea pattern is easily recognized by a wandering eye and old fashion way works the best
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I use a combination of the old fashioned way, a pattern, and delayed lock with a widget locker lockscreen so I don't get bothered to unlock with the pattern every few minutes when I'm using it intermittently.
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Pattern
Face unlock showed up in the battery stats pretty high when I tried it so I ditched it

jamal777 said:
what one do you use i use face unlock because of the speed hby
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You forgot to add the option of no security.

Adding the option of no security would contridict me since I said what security do you use
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jamal777 said:
Adding the option of no security would contridict me since I said what security do you use
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I use no lock but I have Cerberus installed, so that if my phone is stolen, I can lock it remotely.
How's that for security?

No lock here also, and I don't leave my phone setting out so anyone can grab it.

Face unlock takes too long to show up. Slide is easiest
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I only have one form of security.
if you touch my phone I will EAT YOU. Literally. I get hungry.
if I don't catch you I will use the tracking program I have installed.
HUNT YOU DOWN and then eat you.
either way your lunch I get my phone back and a full tummy
Grrrrr

I don't like it that patterns and passwords show buttons changing color or trails in the direction you're tracing. Someone nearby could easily watch what you're doing and figure out your pattern or password/code. Also, I wasn't pleased that when I tried using a very long string of numbers, you were limited to something like seventeen or less. I put something like my drivers license number and social strung together but the phone wouldn't take 21 numbers. The reason I picked such a long number sequence is in case someone was watching me enter my code, I kinda doubt they could follow and memorize such a long string easily; especially if entered quickly.

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I don't like it that patterns and passwords show buttons changing color or trails in the direction you're tracing. Someone nearby could easily watch what you're doing and figure out your pattern or password/code. Also, I wasn't pleased that when I tried using a very long string of numbers, you were limited to something like seventeen or less. I put something like my drivers license number and social strung together but the phone wouldn't take 21 numbers. The reason I picked such a long number sequence is in case someone was watching me enter my code, I kinda doubt they could follow and memorize such a long string easily; especially if entered quickly.
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There's an option to not show the trail for pattern unlock...
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Sunsparc said:
I use no lock but I have Cerberus installed, so that if my phone is stolen, I can lock it remotely.
How's that for security?
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Exactly. How is people witnessing me beating someone with my cell phone for security? Reminds me of a certain commercial as well lol. Security is way too inconvenient to protect my works number or all the XDA browsing I do. About the only thing that matters is the gmail and the ability to buy things.

Take a photo of yourself with another device. hold it up in front of the phone with face unlock enabled. unlock your device
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I've tried all of them just try to change it up on a daily basis lol. Nephews n nieces always wanna play games on it. Has anyone noticed that in a lot of a roms that just bringing down the notification bar will give you access to the phone even if it has some sort of security.

Somairotevoli said:
Take a photo of yourself with another device. hold it up in front of the phone with face unlock enabled. unlock your device
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Good luck. Yes it does work at times. But I have had other people try it on me and NONE of them have succeeded.
But thats also why Samsung is changing it to require blinking.

When I do lock, I prefer app protector pro, and have it set to lock all the incriminating essentials lol (with a pattern lock)
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(Request) - NFC w/ screen off

I was wondering if anyone could please port this mod to GNII w/o breaking Google wallet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709586
Having to turn the screen on everytime one uses NFC is quite the pain.

wouldn't that be some form of risk to your phone?

Sure it would be a risk but one I might be willing to take due to convenience factor. Yes, it's simple enough to just turn on the power and unlock the phone but sometimes when driving, I don't have the ability to safely power on the screen and then go through the motions of unlocking. It's not for everyone for sure but I am sure that there is a niche market that would love to have it.
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dropofdreams2 said:
Sure it would be a risk but one I might be willing to take due to convenience factor. Yes, it's simple enough to just turn on the power and unlock the phone but sometimes when driving, I don't have the ability to safely power on the screen and then go through the motions of unlocking. It's not for everyone for sure but I am sure that there is a niche market that would love to have it.
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That's not the safest idea.. Ether way when your driving drive lol. Don't play with phones
And that's coming from a 20 year old
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Anyone get this working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35988129&postcount=42
I tried but it didn't work for me on Jedi 6.1
I would be even be happy with just the lockscreen mod.

dropofdreams2 said:
Sure it would be a risk but one I might be willing to take due to convenience factor. Yes, it's simple enough to just turn on the power and unlock the phone but sometimes when driving, I don't have the ability to safely power on the screen and then go through the motions of unlocking. It's not for everyone for sure but I am sure that there is a niche market that would love to have it.
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Yeah that is true, although you don't have go through any motions if you don't want to, there's always the option to select "None" in the Lock Screen settings so you just press the power button and no Lock Screen shows up at all.
As far as allowing nfc goes I think what would be a better option is unlocking with voice, but so far I personally have yet to see that, that would be better and a nifty feature imo.

luciddreamin92 said:
Yeah that is true, although you don't have go through any motions if you don't want to, there's always the option to select "None" in the Lock Screen settings so you just press the power button and no Lock Screen shows up at all.
As far as allowing nfc goes I think what would be a better option is unlocking with voice, but so far I personally have yet to see that, that would be better and a nifty feature imo.
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Right now I use tasker to do this while at home, though I would still like the option to use nfc when screen off.

kirkla79 said:
Right now I use tasker to do this while at home, though I would still like the option to use nfc when screen off.
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Just curious. Anyone considered useing the actual task to unlock from the NFC chip? Would issue unlock then whatever else you wanted it to do. Could be something simple if NFC could activate with power button even though its locked.

Cab121 said:
Just curious. Anyone considered useing the actual task to unlock from the NFC chip? Would issue unlock then whatever else you wanted it to do. Could be something simple if NFC could activate with power button even though its locked.
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You can't trigger off nfc while locked because the process isn't on.
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farfromovin said:
You can't trigger off nfc while locked because the process isn't on.
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Correct
But since going threw the trouble to have the service on all the time. Isnt also just as feasible to activate the process under the same rules as the screen? As an option to not activate it permanently. Im aware of the conditions and rules that govern it stock but I was merely speculating another alternative while the hood was open .

Question P6 bypass lock screen when trusted with smart lock?

Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless

Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy

Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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I used for some time smartlock (because Pixel was paired with a smartband), so if it's connected, it was set to unlock in this case without password or fingerprint.
Otherwise, if we use fingerprint it take half second to unlock, so it's almost the same, but each user can decide what is more comfortable for him.

biTToe said:
When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time

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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.

sronweb said:
This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
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So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked

Hand76 said:
So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
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You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.

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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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Except I don't use fingerprint unlock. I swipe a pattern.
So faster for me in that instance

sronweb said:
You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
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Never said to remove anything but a lock screen on an unlocked phone.
That's not a reasonable request?

Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint

V0latyle said:
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
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Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?

Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how

On a side note, Google changing the screen to wake with a single tap instead of double tap is equally annoying and leads to the screen accidentally turning on all the damn time. Including in your pocket.
This only started on Android 12. Talk about fixing something that wasn't broken

Iv never used smart lock myself

Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
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One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
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73sydney said:
One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
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Ty so much for this.. But from his description
"You phone will never be locked"
I see how this is keeping the device unlocked (for a certain period of time) but how does the device auto lock when leaving a trusted site?
For me I have several trustes sites already with profiles made in Tasker.
My default (outside/not at home) would be where I would want my phone locked