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New Epic user root ?

What is the best rom to root? I just got my epic yesterday and I want to root using the latest rom that everyone is really raving about. Thanks in advance!
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All roms are rooted
First you root your phone then you can install a custom rom
Ruins don't root your phone u do that through a one click rooter you find in development stickies
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bankaisnake said:
What is the best rom to root? I just got my epic yesterday and I want to root using the latest rom that everyone is really raving about. Thanks in advance!
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Follow the instructions in the top of the threads (stickies) on how to root your phone. Then follow the instructions included for the ROM you choose. Most require you to convert your file system to EXT4 and be on Clockwork Mod 3.0.0.6. So read carefully and post your questions here in the Q&A section.
Do you BONSAI?

Its definitely a big pond to jump into. Rooting and flashing ROMS, to say the least can become an addiction. I have been lurking XDA for a short time now. Owned my epic for about a month until i started making my own changes and trying different ROMs ( when FROYO {2.2} updated my phone began to SUCK so off I went; cannon ball into the pond) one of the biggest helps to me was youtube and the "epic cookbook" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967014.... definitely a HUGE help. also simple problems have simple answers. Many others have asked and can be answered with the search field. After you jump in and have a succesful root & flash you will have wondered why you waited. I am no "pro" but am willing to help if needed. Good luck
As for the best.... oneclickroot either 2.5 or 3.0 are wonderful. however i have had much more luck with 3.0 running ext4. Now asking which ROM is better is like asking which car is best, all types of answers. Really depends on what you want and your "taste"

Yes thanks for your replies. I may have not asked my question correctly. I came from the Hero and I rooted that phone till it couldn't be rooted anymore! I'm just on the Epic now and not sure where to begin and where the best rom I should flash. Hero had cyn 2-.2 and thought about flashing gingerbread but just decided to upgrade to the Epic. I'll check around XDA in the stickies.. thx for your replies and further advice is surely appreciated!
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Just purchased phone today

Hey Guys!
Just upgraded my EVO today to the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch. I was wanting to know is rooting this phone just like the EVO? Where do you find the "unrevoked" rooting files for the Epic 4g?
Thanks for the help and any links you can provide.

Search the dev section....all your questions have been answered.....and this phone is different in rooting etc.. .
Remember....search is your friend....save you from getting flamed....ppl are on a roll today lol
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Look under "stickies" in the general forum.....there is the root how toos....roms kernels etc...
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TPADriod said:
Hey Guys!
Just upgraded my EVO today to the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch. I was wanting to know is rooting this phone just like the EVO? Where do you find the "unrevoked" rooting files for the Epic 4g?
Thanks for the help and any links you can provide.
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Congrats man on the new phone. No the rooting process I'd going to be different on the epic. Sfhub has created a one touch root method that is definitely the most user friendly, and is highly recommended.
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Congrats man on the new phone. No the rooting process is going to be different on the epic. Sfhub has created a one touch root method that is definitely the most user friendly, and is highly recommended. I would head in that direction.
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Here is a link to sfhub's auto root. Def the best method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

Welcome to the tribe....... Sfhub's one touch root method definitely way to go.

Great choice man on a phone but forget the way you thought with the Evo in some cases and do hardcore reading up on your new phone prior to doing anything since it will save the million and one questions you may ask. Check out the wiki section as well for some great tips. Enjoy and welcome aboard - just do me a favor and read read and then read some more

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Great choice man on a phone but forget the way you thought with the Evo in some cases and do hardcore reading up on your new phone prior to doing anything since it will save the million and one questions you may ask. Check out the wiki section as well for some great tips. Enjoy and welcome aboard - just do me a favor and read read and then read some more
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Thank you....I do like the thinness of the phone compared to my evo.....it is pretty large though!
I am VERY familar with rooting and restoring roms on my evo, I think I did it about 100+ times.
It was pretty simple, download Unrevoked and bam! I am looking at Odin and Sfhub's one touch root method.....so...One of them should be fine.
I dont understand what the modems are used for. Do most ROMS come with them? I understand that they are used to communicate with Carrier towers...but is the higher version always better? What are they compared to on an Evo, if at all.
Thanks!

qbking77 videos show you how to root and everything you need. He's a great guy.

TPADriod said:
Thank you....I do like the thinness of the phone compared to my evo.....it is pretty large though!
I am VERY familar with rooting and restoring roms on my evo, I think I did it about 100+ times.
It was pretty simple, download Unrevoked and bam! I am looking at Odin and Sfhub's one touch root method.....so...One of them should be fine.
I dont understand what the modems are used for. Do most ROMS come with them? I understand that they are used to communicate with Carrier towers...but is the higher version always better? What are they compared to on an Evo, if at all.
Thanks!
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Modem is just radio firmware...like evo.... All phones are different el29 may work better for you or ek02 may be better.... Just try them and find out
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IMO the best method to root then install cwm is to.flash rooted el29 with the Odin method than use the one click to install cwm. Thats how I did it at least.
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globalninja said:
IMO the best method to root then install cwm is to.flash rooted el29 with the Odin method than use the one click to install cwm. Thats how I did it at least.
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Yeah, I just got mine last night and this is what I plan on doing at work today. Mine is on el29 so as I understand it I would want to flash rooted el29 then install cwm in autoroot. Once I've had it for a few days I'll probably start testing out third party roms but I have a weird thing where I like to run stock(ish) for a little bit just so I get to know the phone and know what "baseline" performs like. Also, I already like this phone stock more than the Evo with Sense. Touchwiz seems much less intrusive and overly glossy. Only little annoyance I have is that when I did OTA update to el29 I lost scrolling wallpaper so I may jump to calkulins rom just to get that back.

TPADriod said:
Thank you....I do like the thinness of the phone compared to my evo.....it is pretty large though!
I am VERY familar with rooting and restoring roms on my evo, I think I did it about 100+ times.
It was pretty simple, download Unrevoked and bam! I am looking at Odin and Sfhub's one touch root method.....so...One of them should be fine.
I dont understand what the modems are used for. Do most ROMS come with them? I understand that they are used to communicate with Carrier towers...but is the higher version always better? What are they compared to on an Evo, if at all.
Thanks!
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please don't flash the international ics rom either..... *drops mic and walks away*

Ive had my Epic 4g Touch for a couple of days now. Im coming from the Evo 3D. Touchwiz sucks compared to sense but this phone feels more powerful and smooth. Evo 3D also has a bigger dev support here in xda. Hopefully this changes considering this is a relatively new phone. I love the big screen on this phone and how thin it is. Im keeping it untill HTC comes out with at 4.5+ inch phone. Go to youtube and looks for qbkimg77 videos on this phone. They are very helpful.
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banksmi09 said:
please don't flash the international ics rom either..... *drops mic and walks away*
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Yeah, did that.....
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First of all unrevoked is only for HTC devices in the Dev section you will find the Auto root its quite simple not as Unrevoked but quite helpful, then I would recomend you to run stock with root a couple of days and start with Calkulin's ROM, UnNamed, and other stockish roms with goodies and then flash everything you like as kernels(Rogue Hitman, LosKernel,etc) Modems(EG30, EK02, EL29, etc) of course rooted and other ROMs (CM7, CM9, etc) and always have a backup and Odin installed in your computed
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I flashed Blazer Rom my first day I had the phone haven't looked back since

Did anyone have problems installing cwm?
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Did anyone have problems installing cwm?
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How are you trying to install it?
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How scared should i be

I just came from the evo 3d and before that evo 4g and hero so all ive ever used are htc devices. I keep reading about bricking my et4g flashing ics roms. Is it really that big of an issue im a flashoholic and dont want a paper weight any advice would be much appreiated
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ruffneckZeVo said:
I just came from the evo 3d and before that evo 4g and hero so all ive ever used are htc devices. I keep reading about bricking my et4g flashing ics roms. Is it really that big of an issue im a flashoholic and dont want a paper weight any advice would be much appreiated
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Not if you follow the proper directions.
Also I think everyone should invest a few bucks in "Mobile ODIN Pro" and root file explorer. Those two apps are all you need to ensure you are safe. Check MD5's and such with root explorer, and mobile ODIN pro lets you safely odin kernels, modems, roms, stock roms, etc with built in MD5 checking.

ruffneckZeVo said:
I just came from the evo 3d and before that evo 4g and hero so all ive ever used are htc devices. I keep reading about bricking my et4g flashing ics roms. Is it really that big of an issue im a flashoholic and dont want a paper weight any advice would be much appreiated
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Hey man I'm from 3d too and all I did was used the stock rooted ics rom and it's running great and was super easy to install. If u want that rom just go in development section and check out ff11 rom from sfhub. It's real easy to install. Not sure what ur looking for but I just wanted ics with root and that will give it to u if u just follow the directions. Good luck!
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ruffneckZeVo said:
I just came from the evo 3d and before that evo 4g and hero so all ive ever used are htc devices. I keep reading about bricking my et4g flashing ics roms. Is it really that big of an issue im a flashoholic and dont want a paper weight any advice would be much appreiated
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Follow OP install instructions to the T and your good... Mobile ODIN is well worth the $$!!

fear not grasshopper ...
read, read, read ... follow the directions posted in OP and have patience. many of the tales of bricking are in reality easily resolved by reading the info posted in the various threads. have a good time. most of the folks who use XDA are helpful and pleasant.

Thanks for all of th e feedback i bought mobile odin pro im assuming its better to use odin than to just use the flashable zips since people keep saying to use odin thats kind of new to me on htc it was all flashables or fastboot hopefully ill get the hang of samsung quick cause i love this phone i was a fool for hanging on the 3vo so long i do miss sense specially sense 4.0 but i have the 3d as wifi device now so its all good
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bigtoysrock said:
Follow OP install instructions to the T and your good... Mobile ODIN is well worth the $$!!
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I completely agree with bigtoysrock, make sure you follow the OP 100% without deviation and you should be OK.
Also you may want to check out vids on YouTube by Qbking77. His tutorials and reviews have been a huge help for me, might also be for you.
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I came from an Evo and a 3D and I don't know how I ever used an htc phone. this device is nearly perfect. flashing with Odin / mobile Odin is a breeze.
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I love htc ability to to flash rom I was a flashoholc with my og evo.. Flashing took no more than 3 minutes.. This phone is extremely superior but I have not flahed a single rom since I got my phone for the same reason.. The proces seems complicated not because it's hard but because I got use to a completely different method of flashing.. I guess we just got to get used to the process

djent said:
I came from an Evo and a 3D and I don't know how I ever used an htc phone. this device is nearly perfect. flashing with Odin / mobile Odin is a breeze.
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Lol couldn't agree more!
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dz1 said:
I love htc ability to to flash rom I was a flashoholc with my og evo.. Flashing took no more than 3 minutes.. This phone is extremely superior but I have not flahed a single rom since I got my phone for the same reason.. The proces seems complicated not because it's hard but because I got use to a completely different method of flashing.. I guess we just got to get used to the process
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Ur lucky u never owned a 3d lol!
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I just wanna warn you that sometimes when following an OP's instructions, you may accidentally make a mistake. Therefore I advise you first to understand what you are flashing before you flash it. I.e. in case you don't already know, learn what a kernel is, what different types of kernels are, what not to do (read the brick thread - I think it's a sticky), etc. Also, remember to always make nandroids and check md5 sums.

wormsign said:
I completely agree with bigtoysrock, make sure you follow the OP 100% without deviation and you should be OK.
Also you may want to check out vids on YouTube by Qbking77. His tutorials and reviews have been a huge help for me, might also be for you.
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I agree with both bigtoysrock and wormsign. Follow the OP 100%. I bricked the other day cuz I didn't follow it. Learned my lesson the hard way. Luckily, Sprint replaced it.
Qbking77's vids have been a huge help for me too. I highly recommend them.

guess i should have went with my gut feeling i flashed a few touchwiz roms with no probs then i tried to flask aokp and got a emmc error phone bootlooped then tried to flash back to stock with odin and get stuck on data.img guess i bricked it in one day and it isnt a sprint device i got it off craigs list and flashed it to verizon so no insurance o well maybe there will be a fix soon =(

Galaxy S2 SPH-D710 Model Same as EPIC?

So a friend of mine wants to root his S2. He tells me the model # is SPH-D170. Samsung shows both EPIC & S2 are that model.
I just wanted to confirm if someone can tell me that the root instructions for the EPIC and ROM's work with the sprint S2 as well.
Thanks!

LionFreak said:
So a friend of mine wants to root his S2. He tells me the model # is SPH-D170. Samsung shows both EPIC & S2 are that model.
I just wanted to confirm if someone can tell me that the root instructions for the EPIC and ROM's work with the sprint S2 as well.
Thanks!
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Og epic is sph-d700
We are D710
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T.C.P said:
Og epic is sph-d700
We are D710
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Sorry...I didn't proof it... his S2 is SPH-D710....
samsung link: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SPH-D710ZKASPR

OK...I found this very helpful article via google..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II/SPH-D710
He has the FF18... and sounds like he's screwed... Worth more reading if there is a work around. He's very unhappy with his phone since the OTA... runs like crap & battery is worthless now.
If anyone has any pointers it would be greatly appreciated!

LionFreak said:
OK...I found this very helpful article via google..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II/SPH-D710
He has the FF18... and sounds like he's screwed... Worth more reading if there is a work around. He's very unhappy with his phone since the OTA... runs like crap & battery is worthless now.
If anyone has any pointers it would be greatly appreciated!
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He isn't screwed at all, just use this one click http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 It is FF18 but rooted.
If he wants to change ROM's.. he can just put the phone into download mode, flash a kernel via Odin that will have a custom safe recovery. I suggest Agats kernel found below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Just make sure you guys pick out a ROM people swear by Blue Kuban but it really comes down to the person.. if they want a themed ROM or stock experience. take a look around the deving section.

LionFreak said:
OK...I found this very helpful article via google..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II/SPH-D710
He has the FF18... and sounds like he's screwed... Worth more reading if there is a work around. He's very unhappy with his phone since the OTA... runs like crap & battery is worthless now.
If anyone has any pointers it would be greatly appreciated!
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Odin agats kernel, and flash su zip, or odin any stock rooted rom via sfhubs one click
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Febby said:
He isn't screwed at all, just use this one click http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 It is FF18 but rooted.
If he wants to change ROM's.. he can just put the phone into download mode, flash a kernel via Odin that will have a custom safe recovery. I suggest Agats kernel found below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Just make sure you guys pick out a ROM people swear by Blue Kuban but it really comes down to the person.. if they want a themed ROM or stock experience. take a look around the deving section.
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Thanks for all the help guys!! I had found that thread & forwarded to him. (He's in CA & I'm in MI) He just told me at lunch he followed the instructions but didn't know the results...lol. I had him download root check basic & he tells me that he's rooted! Yay!! Blue Kuban was the ROM I had suggested to him as well! Glad to hear another recommendation!
Thanks again so much guys! Clicked on both "Thanks" buttons

I'm glad it all worked out for him =)!!

lol yea not sure what phone ur talking about.. e4gt is the galaxy s2 for sprint.. ur friend has an epic touch lol.. either way glad u got some help!
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Coming from an Evo and kind of lost......

Hello everyone I recently bought this touch off of craigslist and am utterly confused on the root process, flashing roms, etc...... First off it was already rooted and using CWM recovery. I found this out after I figured out how to boot into recovery on my new to me phone lol. With the Evo there were some growing pains but I figured it out pretty fast and was flashing like crazy in a couple of days. It's seems this phone is a whole new beast. Im living it so far but I need to know exactly what im up against since I see the phrase "brick your phone way too much already". I've read some threads already but can't quite wrap my mind around it yet so im reaching out, and yes I plan to do a while lot of reading just like I did with the OG Evo. That's not an option right now since my lil sister has been in the ICU in the hospital and I've been spending every waking hour there. Anyway I would just like to know where I stand with the room that is presently on the phone already and what I can do if I wanted to flash something else. Anyway thx for any help given and to those who will surely tell me to read, read, read I will, will, will lol.
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Read all the stickies in the Android Development section. Look up QBKing77 on youtube and watch his videos about this phone. They will show you how to safely root, flash, etc.

euphoria said:
Read all the stickies in the Android Development section. Look up QBKing77 on youtube and watch his videos about this phone. They will show you how to safely root, flash, etc.
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Thx for responding and I will def check that out. I would just like to know what the previous owner did to root the phone if you could look at the screen shoot and give me an ideal. I asked him but he said someone rooted it for him and he didn't have much info. I also asked him off he was on XDA and he said no but he browsed an epic 4g forum but I didn't press him since I knew I could just come here and find out ask I needed to know. Anyway thx for that info.
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sha4000 said:
Thx for responding and I will def check that out. I would just like to know what the previous owner did to root the phone if you could look at the screen shoot and give me an ideal. I asked him but he said someone rooted it for him and he didn't have much info. I also asked him off he was on XDA and he said no but he browsed an epic 4g forum but I didn't press him since I knew I could just come here and find out ask I needed to know. Anyway thx for that info.
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Whoops, accidentally hit the thanks button
Anyway it was most likely originally rooted using the EL29 one click found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
This just installed stock firmware (gingerbread build) on the phone that was rooted. From there he probably upgraded to ics using the recovery built in with the EL26 kernel. Most recoveries are safe to use now, just make sure you thoroughly read the OP.
There was also an exploit through which it could have been rooted, but that was patched long ago.

euphoria said:
Whoops, accidentally hit the thanks button
Anyway it was most likely originally rooted using the EL29 one click found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
This just installed stock firmware (gingerbread build) on the phone that was rooted. From there he probably upgraded to ics using the recovery built in with the EL26 kernel. Most recoveries are safe to use now, just make sure you thoroughly read the OP.
There was also an exploit through which it could have been rooted, but that was patched long ago.
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Thank you for that info. One other question. Is there something I have to flash to be able to enable usb storage so I can move files btw my phone and pc/mac? I read in one of the thread that Samsung removed this feature at some point.
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Look in the android development section. It appears you have the Universe rom from several versions back. I would recommend starting off stock rooted for learning purposes. We have a 1 click method for this and you can learn more from the development section and the qbking videos. FI27 is the most recent build number. I have not tried it yet. Last build I ran was FI03.
After you flash a stock rooted rom you will need to flash a kernel. I always used agats kernel and consider it safe. Good luck and read, read, read before you jump into anything.

someguyatx said:
Look in the android development section. It appears you have the Universe rom from several versions back. I would recommend starting off stock rooted for learning purposes. We have a 1 click method for this and you can learn more from the development section and the qbking videos. FI27 is the most recent build number. I have not tried it yet. Last build I ran was FI03.
After you flash a stock rooted rom you will need to flash a kernel. I always used agats kernel and consider it safe. Good luck and read, read, read before you jump into anything.
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Thx you that was the exact response that I was looking for, both of you guys/gals have provided excellent info and now im off to do some reading.
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No problem this phone can be a bit confusing at first. Lots of terms, letters, numbers, kernels but it will all make sense quickly.

someguyatx said:
No problem this phone can be a bit confusing at first. Lots of terms, letters, numbers, kernels but it will all make sense quickly.
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Whoops, accidentally hit the thanks button
Anyway it was most likely originally rooted using the EL29 one click found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
This just installed stock firmware (gingerbread build) on the phone that was rooted. From there he probably upgraded to ics using the recovery built in with the EL26 kernel. Most recoveries are safe to use now, just make sure you thoroughly read the OP.
There was also an exploit through which it could have been rooted, but that was patched long ago.
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Thx for all the help I have since flashed Agat recovery with stock FH13 rom and Universe 2.3 and am now on the way to fully exploring my phone.

Sounds like you are on the right track. I dont think I ever tried Universe rom. I have mostly been on Aosp based roms the past few months.

Universe rom is neat. I would suggest checking out blazer, calkulins or re-calk, and blu kuban. Those have been some of my favorites.
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If you plan on checking out Kuban,I recommend the link in my sig. The flash procedure also works for many other roms, but until you are really comfortable I would always follow the op directions in whatever ROM you choose to flash. You picked a good phone with a great community. Lots of very helpful people here, even though we lost quite a few to the s3.

I have an OG EVO and my wife has the E4GT. I rooted it yesterday afternoon in about 15 minutes' time. Definitely not the same as rooting the EVO. While it's different, I think it swayed me towards going with the SGS III when my upgrade comes up next month. Looking forward to playing with the E4GT some more-if the wife lets me :angel:

Bannjio said:
Universe rom is neat. I would suggest checking out blazer, calkulins or re-calk, and blu kuban. Those have been some of my favorites.
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I will def give some of those a spin thx.
Ravaged Pheonix said:
If you plan on checking out Kuban,I recommend the link in my sig. The flash procedure also works for many other roms, but until you are really comfortable I would always follow the op directions in whatever ROM you choose to flash. You picked a good phone with a great community. Lots of very helpful people here, even though we lost quite a few to the s3.
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I'm pretty comfortable with most things already lol. Used to flash all kinds of things on my Evo, but this phones blows it out of the water.
FinZ28 said:
I have an OG EVO and my wife has the E4GT. I rooted it yesterday afternoon in about 15 minutes' time. Definitely not the same as rooting the EVO. While it's different, I think it swayed me towards going with the SGS III when my upgrade comes up next month. Looking forward to playing with the E4GT some more-if the wife lets me :angel:
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I hear you, I never even played with an E4GT before I bought it I just saw how great the S3 looked and felt in the sprint store and loved it. Since I refuse to sign a new 2 year contract I always stay at least a model behind and just go to craigslist.

htc phones and samsung are quite different i had an evo and it takes me twice as long to root it compared to samsung. but samsung seems easier to brick.