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Hello,
I have been looking around, but cant seem to find the answer to my seemingly unique situation.
I have rooted my evo using the Unrevoked Forever / ClockworkMod method.
In these instructions, it said to remove any sync software such as the htc sync or doubletwist.
I now want to be able to sync with iTunes, so what would be a good suggestion to do this? I liked the iPhone i had from work where when I synced, it would keep track of where i was in a podcast and go back to / start up from where i left off on the computer or on the device. This along with the management of my music would be great to have.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
maxarbos said:
Hello,
I have been looking around, but cant seem to find the answer to my seemingly unique situation.
I have rooted my evo using the Unrevoked Forever / ClockworkMod method.
In these instructions, it said to remove any sync software such as the htc sync or doubletwist.
I now want to be able to sync with iTunes, so what would be a good suggestion to do this? I liked the iPhone i had from work where when I synced, it would keep track of where i was in a podcast and go back to / start up from where i left off on the computer or on the device. This along with the management of my music would be great to have.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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TuneSync, in Market free version and paid version (worth $5 if you ask me)... But I'm pretty sure you're gonna get the "This belongs in Q&A section" from a few.
cj2566 said:
TuneSync, in Market free version and paid version (worth $5 if you ask me)...
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Thanks, it works with rooted devices?
I will check it out.
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But I'm pretty sure you're gonna get the "This belongs in Q&A section" from a few.
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...expecting it
but with the all the rooting questions and such in here, I figure it may be a better place to ask.
The mod can move if it necessary.
If you're just looking for something that syncs, you may wanna try winamp. it pulls in tracks from your iTunes library, and has a ton of good functions. Plus, it syncs via wifi. I was looking for an iTunes sync, but when i came across it, i liked it better for the evo. Now, iTunes is relegated strictly to my iPod. Hope that helps.
I use isyncr.
maxarbos said:
Thanks, it works with rooted devices?
I will check it out.
...expecting it
but with the all the rooting questions and such in here, I figure it may be a better place to ask.
The mod can move if it necessary.
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Yep, it works. I've been using it for months now.
**Had no idea about WinAmp though. May try that one out. Thanks Uk!**
I use iTunes Agent and could not be happier with it. It loads all of my music in my iTunes library (including purchased songs) onto my Evo. Google iTunes Agent to find the download the program uses your computer and any music application on your phone. No root required.
Isyncr and album art grabber. It works wonderfully. I've been using it with my Evo since July
I'm using doubleTwist with AirSync (WiFi syncing add-on), works pretty well, and can access my music with the stock Sense player
I have heard Isyncr was good and iSyncher wifi, syncs wirelessly, if I am not mistaken.
Nefariouss said:
I use isyncr.
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+1 for isyncr, worth the 3 bucks. Works flawlessly!
doubletwist with wireless sync...
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+1 for isyncr, worth the 3 bucks. Works flawlessly!
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+1 on this one.
iSyncer seems to work well, but it doesnt retain where in a podcast I am at when I pause and exit the application.
It also doesnt update the location I am at on the computer to the phone.
The podcasts are long that i listen to and would like to be able to stop it on my computer, sync, and then pick up on the phone in my car without having to fast forward to, or have to know, where i left off.
There have been posts about this here and there, but most of them are just asking for advice on how to do it. I plan to follow through and document the solutions I find.
Why, you ask? I don't like Google having so much data on me. I used to not care but in today's environment with SOPA and new NSA data centers and whatnot, well... maybe I'm paranoid but I don't necessarily want anyone to so easily have such a complete profile of all my searches, contacts, location history, etc. Anyway, if you think it's dumb, ok, got it, move along please.
So if I don't like Google then why use Android? Well, a couple of reasons. First of all, Google is not Android. Android is maintained by the Android Open Source Project, which in turn is made up of members of the Open Handset Alliance. Yes, Google is the lead member of the Open Handset Alliance, and yes most of the developers working on the Android Open Source Project are Google employees. But I've been following Android for long enough now to know that Google and Android are for all practical purposes separate entities.
The second reason is because Android is simply the best mobile operating system on the planet right now, and it is free open-source software. I use Ubuntu on my laptop, and I'm not interested in switching to Windows or Mac, so that pretty much rules out iPhone or Windows Phone right there.
But isn't Android really Google's OS? Yes and No. As I mentioned, Google does pretty much run the AOSP, along with device manufacturers. But AOSP is very "provider agnostic." Much of what you see on your phone is not from AOSP. The Galaxy Nexus is a GOOGLE device, not an AOSP device. Gmail, Maps, Market, Location Tracking, etc are all GOOGLE ADDITIONS and are NOT a part of AOSP! When you build AOSP from source (or Cyanogenmod), you end up with an agnostic, neutral device that has practically no mention of anything Google whatsoever.
But what about what you DONT have in AOSP? No Market??? No Gmail??? How can you possibly use Android without these things? Well that is exactly what I intend to find out.
Please feel free to contribute to the discussion with ideas and questions. Hopefully this thread can eventually be helpful for someone else who comes along and wants to do something similar.
More posts to follow as I progress....
EDIT: I should add, I also will try to avoid other "free" services like Yahoo! and Hotmail-- basically anyone who wants to run bots through your mail to sell you ads or sell your data to others who want to sell you ads, etc. I will be trying to use open-source or for-pay services where possible (if it's "free" then YOU'RE the product!).
I commend your ambition, but this is nothing new. There are already non-Google Android handsets an tablets on the market. The Kindle Fire, for example, is non-Google.
You can do the same with a GNex. Just don't add a Google account or use a ROM without the gapps. Install the Amazon App Store, change your default search, and away you go.
please...stay safe
Personally the only Google apps I use are Gmail and the Play store, with an occasional use of maps and goggles.
Having a market is really just for convenience, you could install with APKs like on Windows you have to install from EXEs or MSIs. And if you're that against google you could just use the Amazon marketplace for stuff, though I've heard they take longer to receive updates.
In all honesty I don't know what to suggest except flashing 100% and not signing into Google services in any way or form. What you are asking is not possible unless you use apks from non market source and using Hotmail or something.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus expect possible typos.
If somebody figure out how to use Calendar, without creating google account for at least one time, or tell me the alternative calendar (not just widget) that will not sync with google, it would be nice. For example Smasung TW Launcher has it's own calendar, that you can choose, without google, but pure ICS does not have.
I have tryed many alternative, such as Jorte, Pocket Informant, etc, but they are far away from stock ...
I use:
1mobile.net
4shared.com (You also get 15gb cloud space free)
appbrain.com (get app from 4shared)
I absolutely love Google and all of their services. You're crazy! Good luck with it though.
Somebody needs to come out with a tinfoil hat edition ROM.
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sashavegas said:
If somebody figure out how to use Calendar, without creating google account for at least one time, or tell me the alternative calendar (not just widget) that will not sync with google, it would be nice. For example Smasung TW Launcher has it's own calendar, that you can choose, without google, but pure ICS does not have.
I have tryed many alternative, such as Jorte, Pocket Informant, etc, but they are far away from stock ...
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THIS is the point of the thread. Replacing Android Market with Amazon App Stores is completely simple and obvious. Getting contacts and calendar syncing, things like that are not so obvious. Mainly because I am not only going to avoid Google, but other services like Yahoo! or Hotmail, etc (anything that's "free" so they can monetize your data).
Stay off the grid bro
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ChongoDroid said:
Stay off the grid bro
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Exactly! Lol.
Once you're connected to the internet, you're pretty much open to everyone... You can go offline if you don't want any of these... It's not only google... There's ways you can go anonymous like using proxy.... Using search engine that don't track search data... Google has an option for you to opt-in or opt out... Just like the previous responses, you can use amazon but don't think amazon doesn't track you also... How would they know what to recommend you... Google don't force users to stick only to them... And that's why I like google for this reason only...
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matt2053 said:
THIS is the point of the thread. Replacing Android Market with Amazon App Stores is completely simple and obvious. Getting contacts and calendar syncing, things like that are not so obvious. Mainly because I am not only going to avoid Google, but other services like Yahoo! or Hotmail, etc (anything that's "free" so they can monetize your data).
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There should be some third party app that will do these things, well you use linux, you should know that there's a lot of alternatives... Try if the software you use in ubuntu are available for android
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Try this one, if you use thunderbird. Seems decent...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.callicia.birdiesync
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AndroidNeophyte said:
Once you're connected to the internet, you're pretty much open to everyone... You can go offline if you don't want any of these... It's not only google... There's ways you can go anonymous like using proxy.... Using search engine that don't track search data... Google has an option for you to opt-in or opt out... Just like the previous responses, you can use amazon but don't think amazon doesn't track you also... How would they know what to recommend you... Google don't force users to stick only to them... And that's why I like google for this reason only...
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The point isn't really to be 100% anonymous. That would require a dumbphone with prepaid sim or VPN/Proxy setups etc, and that's not what I'm look at. The point is to make an experiment and see how "non-Google" AOSP really is and how useful it is as a mobile OS on its own, without Google proprietary add-ons. Many people say you "have to have a Gmail account to use Android," or "you have to sync your contacts through Gmail" etc and I want to show people how they can do it without Google if they so choose.
AndroidNeophyte said:
Try this one, if you use thunderbird. Seems decent...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.callicia.birdiesync
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Yes, I saw that one and I plan to try it out. I do use Thunderbird, thanks!
AOSP + open source Exchange alternative for syncing Calendar/Email/Contacts hosted on your own server (ie Zimbra)
Sideload all apps
Voila!
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THIS is the point of the thread. Replacing Android Market with Amazon App Stores is completely simple and obvious. Getting contacts and calendar syncing, things like that are not so obvious. Mainly because I am not only going to avoid Google, but other services like Yahoo! or Hotmail, etc (anything that's "free" so they can monetize your data).
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XDA monetizes your data. Every website does; that's how they pay for hosting and bandwidth.
Use a different calendar app and sync your contacts to Outlook, or just back them up somewhere.
Alright, but you should really start off removing the antenna from your smartphone. Then compile AOSP, don't flash GApps, sideload all APK files.
There, now you're off the grid. Enjoy boredom and next to no convenient functionality.
\Hello,
My parents were in the US for a while, so they bought me a Nexus 7.
They also bought one for each of them and theirs were activated while in america, so they have magazines, movies and books working when they got back.
For me the only thing working is Play Music but, since it works, made me wonder if it is possible to get movies/books/magazines working...
It has to be possible..
Have anyone done that already?
If so, how?
Thank you!
In the UK?
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\Hello,
My parents were in the US for a while, so they bought me a Nexus 7.
They also bought one for each of them and theirs were activated while in america, so they have magazines, movies and books working when they got back.
For me the only thing working is Play Music but, since it works, made me wonder if it is possible to get movies/books/magazines working...
It has to be possible..
Have anyone done that already?
If so, how?
Thank you!
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Music is still a grey area but should work, no problem with books or movies, magazines not so much.
I use a vpn for this and switch off the gps and location services......works 99% of the time.....im in ireland
How does it work out in terms of billing? Does it go through all right?
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I use Zinio. It has a much better magazine selection and is available worldwide, I think. It does work in Canada.
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I set up my nexus 7 this way, put irish credit card on it and got the play credit on my google account.
I was wondering the same thing i heardu can unlock them but u cant buy anything, atleast not in Canada.
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I also recommend Zinio. Usually have some good special on magazine subscriptions too.
I got the Books to work using a VPN. I was able to download a couple of free ones. Didn't try buying any but I presume it would work if you get the US Play Store working through a VPN.
Using DroidVPN and Market Enabler you can access the US Play Store, but without a US credit card you cannot purchase anything from movies/books/magazines/music (even if it's free!) So maybe if you can get a prepaid US credit card it will work but I'm not sure..
Great ideas.
Thank you, guys.
I used this method to buy stuff from Google Play: http://goo.gl/mHhY8
In short, use VPN to access the Google Play, either through the web or the app. I personally use Hide My Ass! and Super Free VPN to buy books and music.
Once I bought them I can access the contents without VPN.
Hey guys... I'm just curious about, why Google Music censored my music?!
I bought Marvin's Room from Drake, for example, on Musicload (a German site for legal music download, powered by T-Mobile) uncensored.
Today I decided to upload my music into Google play for easy access...
Just tuned into it and it's censored now... no dirty words... is it normal that Google Music do this?
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Yup, another one affected, states "clean" in the name now... this is... ??
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Lol.. I have thousands of songs in Google music, none of which are censored.
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just tested it out, it isn't altering my explicit lyrics mp3s
It's probably this 'match' feature which, rather than you having to upload your copy, adds songs from Google's server to your Google Music user space. It's probably taken the clean version instead of the explicit one. Try putting 'Explicit version' on your and see what happens as both are available on Google Music
The one was called explicit version... Confusing... I'm going to delete them if it's possible... I rather put them on my sdcard than fighting for dirty words
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This is ridiculous haha. I'd noticed it with a few songs having the odd word censored or changed, which I thought was annoying but tolerable.
Then I just tried to listen to Benoit & Sergio - Walk & Talk. All of the lyrics have been replaced with a humming, presumably because it's drug references.
Who knew Google were so puritan?
I can live with that I just don't upload dirty songs
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Where do you live? I believe Google is testing the Match service in Europe. Check your labs settings on desktop version of Google music as well. I would figure it would default to clean versions and a setting to switch to explicit
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hmm, havnt noticed that, must not be paying attention enough
You just shouldn't listen to explicit music you bad boy, google is doing a good thing here
fredryk said:
You just shouldn't listen to explicit music you bad boy, google is doing a good thing here
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Sarcasm?
altimax98 said:
Where do you live? I believe Google is testing the Match service in Europe. Check your labs settings on desktop version of Google music as well. I would figure it would default to clean versions and a setting to switch to explicit
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Okay I'm going to take a look at this thank you
fredryk said:
You just shouldn't listen to explicit music you bad boy, google is doing a good thing here
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but you have to admit that some songs sound like.... *insert bad word here * when they cut the words out
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Yes
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so i just noticed a few of my songs have this issue so i emailed google and this is what they told me:
Hi there,
I understand that some of your music is not being matched correctly by our scan and match service. In order to fix this, please go to your library on a browser and right-click on the song(s) that are experiencing this issue. Please then select "Fix incorrect match."
If your Music Manager is running, the actual file will be uploaded within 24 hrs. If after that time period, you're still experiencing this issue, please let me know.
Best Regards,
John
Google Play Support Team
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and it worked.....so i hope this helps others.
Is there an option in music manager to not scan and match stuff? I have 0 desire for this to touch my music...already invested the time for a full upload. Scared to turn the program on and have it mess up stuff now. I read that it has issues matching various artist albums too, and I have some of mine configured in non standard ways that I'm guessing it would butcher (or ignore, who knows, that's the scary part!)
ocnbrze said:
so i just noticed a few of my songs have this issue so i emailed google and this is what they told me:
and it worked.....so i hope this helps others.
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This sounds interesting thanks for sharing
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I also have the problem. I told them that fixing individual tracks in a 20,000 song collection is clearly not a valid or palatable solution. They had no other recourse, nor would they acknowledge this as a problem (typical Google).
I'm currently on the phone with them asking how I can submit a bug report, for surely this is a bug with how their matching is working (or not working, as the case may be).
The rep had no suggestion other than to email him with the problem specifics and his word that he would pass the bug report onto the germane team.
Unfortunately, until Google fixes this issue, Google Music is unusable for me.
@johnchad14:
No, there is no way to 'turn off' the matching feature, according to the rep I just spoke with. The good news is it won't touch your original tracks, just **** up the version they make available in their cloud. Surprisingly, it handled my compilation albums quite well.
Yeah, it *was* my online backup for music. As I don't know what they've done with the tracks now, I can't trust it as that anymore. Oh well. Not having issues with the whole thing other than worrying about the fidelity of my online collection there. Just been using my local backup drive like I used to to ensure music meltdown does not occur. Oh well!
Weird. I have like 17 gigs of music uploaded to Google music and its never edited. I'd be pissed off of they did that but I really don't think they have that right.
But... It is on Google servers.
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I also have the problem. I told them that fixing individual tracks in a 20,000 song collection is clearly not a valid or palatable solution. They had no other recourse, nor would they acknowledge this as a problem (typical Google).
I'm currently on the phone with them asking how I can submit a bug report, for surely this is a bug with how their matching is working (or not working, as the case may be).
The rep had no suggestion other than to email him with the problem specifics and his word that he would pass the bug report onto the germane team.
Unfortunately, until Google fixes this issue, Google Music is unusable for me.
@johnchad14:
No, there is no way to 'turn off' the matching feature, according to the rep I just spoke with. The good news is it won't touch your original tracks, just **** up the version they make available in their cloud. Surprisingly, it handled my compilation albums quite well.
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Yet another problem Google causes, and then is oblivious to it. Same fiasco when they combined navigation volume with media volume. Utter incompetence. F*** you Google for ruining my music and telling me I have to fix thousands of tracks individually because you have a service that doesn't work.
So, eBay willing I will get my Huawei Mate Xs in about 10 days time.
And I have a difficult decision ahead of me. Do I Google or not?
Installing GMS and the Google apps will make my phone more like my existing Android device. But it will also introduce inevitable stability (and possibly security) issues.
Sticking to the Huawei apps avoids these, but limits my options somewhat.
What do you guys think. Do I Google or not?
If you can do without Google docs and drive, I say skip the Google hack. It's kinda risky. Even if you use the Mate XS as is without the hack, you can still use some Google services.
Gmail still works through Microsoft Outlook. Google calendar works through Business Calendar. Google Maps load fine even though can't sign in. Chrome works. Facebook Instagram WhatsApp all work.
So the only thing I use often that's missing for me is really Google drive, doc, YouTube. For latter I just go on the web browser to watch and it's ok. Not as good as app but not terrible.
I made a video of the whole setup if you're interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBzmPXS7KrA&
rcs1000 said:
So, eBay willing I will get my Huawei Mate Xs in about 10 days time.
And I have a difficult decision ahead of me. Do I Google or not?
Installing GMS and the Google apps will make my phone more like my existing Android device. But it will also introduce inevitable stability (and possibly security) issues.
Sticking to the Huawei apps avoids these, but limits my options somewhat.
What do you guys think. Do I Google or not?
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radioraheem2 said:
If you can do without Google docs and drive, I say skip the Google hack. It's kinda risky. Even if you use the Mate XS as is without the hack, you can still use some Google services.
Gmail still works through Microsoft Outlook. Google calendar works through Business Calendar. Google Maps load fine even though can't sign in. Chrome works. Facebook Instagram WhatsApp all work.
So the only thing I use often that's missing for me is really Google drive, doc, YouTube. For latter I just go on the web browser to watch and it's ok. Not as good as app but not terrible.
I made a video of the whole setup if you're interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBzmPXS7KrA&
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I agree. I'm using stock browser, email, and messenger. I can do almost everything just as if I was using Google.
misleading
radioraheem2 said:
If you can do without Google docs and drive, I say skip the Google hack. It's kinda risky. Even if you use the Mate XS as is without the hack, you can still use some Google services.
Gmail still works through Microsoft Outlook. Google calendar works through Business Calendar. Google Maps load fine even though can't sign in. Chrome works. Facebook Instagram WhatsApp all work.
So the only thing I use often that's missing for me is really Google drive, doc, YouTube. For latter I just go on the web browser to watch and it's ok. Not as good as app but not terrible.
I made a video of the whole setup if you're interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBzmPXS7KrA&
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all due respect that video is not yours. its Ben from ben gadget review. please stop lying
rcs1000 said:
So, eBay willing I will get my Huawei Mate Xs in about 10 days time.
And I have a difficult decision ahead of me. Do I Google or not?
Installing GMS and the Google apps will make my phone more like my existing Android device. But it will also introduce inevitable stability (and possibly security) issues.
Sticking to the Huawei apps avoids these, but limits my options somewhat.
What do you guys think. Do I Google or not?
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You can have the best of both worlds by downloading vmos. I have the Huawei mate xs and it is working well.
The issue I have with VMOS is that I know *nothing* about the company who makes it. You are giving an awful lot of power to a company where the owners are unknown, that has no obvious revenue model, and where the code is closed source.
I sent a message using their contact us form, to understand what they were doing and to see if I could help with commercialisation (I'm a reasonably successful tech entrepreneur).
But I got no response.
So... I might use VMOS to run Uber in, but I'm not connecting my Google account to it.
Just got mine, tried without... but it was just not possible, there were about 10 apps I use regularly that do not want to work without Google services. Plus there are several apps I have purchased that I could either not use at all or would have had to use the free version full of ads - just not an option.
The videos posted in this thread were really hard to follow, ommitted important steps etc.
For me this one was great, even if it was still a pain and I needed 3 hard resets before getting there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYOU_YxrHhc
Now I only have 2 apps I can't use: Google Play music (but that plays fine in the browser so no big deal, also on VMOS if needed to be offline), and... the most stupid of things, the McDonald's app for getting coupons. That damn app is more protected than games and banking apps, it's ridiculous... it won't run on VMOS either.
EDIT: Damn it's been a while since I've been here, [email protected]
radioraheem2 said:
If you can do without Google docs and drive, I say skip the Google hack. It's kinda risky. Even if you use the Mate XS as is without the hack, you can still use some Google services.
Gmail still works through Microsoft Outlook. Google calendar works through Business Calendar. Google Maps load fine even though can't sign in. Chrome works. Facebook Instagram WhatsApp all work.
So the only thing I use often that's missing for me is really Google drive, doc, YouTube. For latter I just go on the web browser to watch and it's ok. Not as good as app but not terrible.
I made a video of the whole setup if you're interested.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JBzmPXS7KrA&
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What about youtube music or banking apps?
Youtube Music works for me. Google play music didn't but since that's going to be killed shortly and once should migrate to YTM and use that it's what I did.
Banking apps most of mine work, only one doesn't.
im think for buy the huawei xs but if the xda dont want unlock root ....
I'm getting mine tomorrow and I'll try it without GMS and see how I like it. Biggest drawback I see is the lack of native Youtube app support, I prefer not to use the browser version.