I leave the phone charging overnight (about 7 hrs). Is this bad for the battery in any way?
Also I know that heat helps quickly degrade the battery. So should I take my phone out of its TPU case when charging to help it dissipate heat?
no.
yes.
It does degrade your battery life somewhat, since LiPo batteries prefer a partial charge to a full charge.
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What is a partial charge exactly? What percentage is that? 50%? 80%? 99%? Also is there an app out there which can stop the phone charging once it gets to a certain level?
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What is a partial charge exactly? What percentage is that? 50%? 80%? 99%? Also is there an app out there which can stop the phone charging once it gets to a certain level?
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You want to keep your phone in the middle basically, 40 to 60 being the optimal zones. If you charge over night your phone will reach 100% and sit there untill you unplug it, 100% is pretty much the fastest rate of decay your battery will suffer.
Letting the battery drain too far is also going to decay it faster. Its best to charge it frequently, i normally keep mines between 40 and 80,and then when i want to go out, i pop it on for a full charge.
Dont worry about charging to 100, or dropping to 10, it's not exactly something that occurs if you do it 5 or 6 times, whats more damaging is the duration you leave the battery at those levels.
Also, something I've noticed with some HTC phones, when you charge via usb, they charge at a max speed of 500mA, give or take. But when using the AC adapter, it charges at 1A (1000mA) if you are not in a hurry, charge your phone using USB, it will take quite a bit longer, but the battery will suffer less decay this way.
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The phone doesn't sit at 100% all night. It will charge to 100%, take itself off the charger until somewhere around 95% then go back on the charger until 100% and repeat.
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The phone doesn't sit at 100% all night. It will charge to 100%, take itself off the charger until somewhere around 95% then go back on the charger until 100% and repeat.
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Most devices don't charge again, the charge level drops slightly yes, but normally it still reads as 100 until you unplug. Ether way, holding that charge level is not good if some one is intending extending there batteries life span.
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And as most of us found, HOX loses something around 3% per night if it is on iddle.... So am I right that if I leave it on charger, it goes to 100% and then just discharges to 97% telling me that its 100% with no more charging cycles harming battery? It would be hard fir me to pass a day if its not fully charge...
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And as most of us found, HOX loses something around 3% per night if it is on iddle.... So am I right that if I leave it on charger, it goes to 100% and then just discharges to 97% telling me that its 100% with no more charging cycles harming battery? It would be hard fir me to pass a day if its not fully charge...
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as said above it will drop to 95 then back to 100.
small chargers are better for the battery than big discharge recharge
you should read this thread but in short overnight charging is fine, fully emptying the battery bad.
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I got my Note 10.1 2014 Edition yesterday. I noticed out of the box that it was draining extremely fast. When I put it on the charger, it charged very slow.
I put the tablet on the charger while I slept (6hrs), the tablet did not even charge fully. Only to 88%.
Anyone have battery drain or slow charging issues?
it's possible you have a bum unit. are you using the supplied charger and cable? some cables aren't high enough quality to sustain the higher charge rate and of course some chargers don't output enough power.
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it's possible you have a bum unit. are you using the supplied charger and cable? some cables aren't high enough quality to sustain the higher charge rate and of course some chargers don't output enough power.
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Yes, I am using the 2 AMP charger. I have it fully charged now. I am going to test it for the next day or so and it see how it performs. I will report back.
Mine also seems to charge really slow and drain way faster than my 2012 model. I noticed that the AC adapter gets really hot. I've tried with two USB cables and no such luck in improving anything. I don't know what's going on here. I need to some objective comparison testing but this just doesn't feel right to me.
I couldn't get to 100% on the initial charge until after I turned it on. It kind of just hung there in that 88% area.
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Mine also seems to charge really slow and drain way faster than my 2012 model. I noticed that the AC adapter gets really hot. I've tried with two USB cables and no such luck in improving anything. I don't know what's going on here. I need to some objective comparison testing but this just doesn't feel right to me.
I couldn't get to 100% on the initial charge until after I turned it on. It kind of just hung there in that 88% area.
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I did get mine to charge 100 percent. This is where I am now...
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so far I'm at 1 day 6.5 hrs with 5.25hrs screen and at 38%. not ag good as the old note, but the old gn101 wwasn't as purdy!
Charging and drain
Mine took a charge over night but the battery drains fast. I noticed that the auto brightness is set way too low. Perhaps that's how they got the claimed hours of use.
It does charge pretty slow, I'm surprised they didn't include a micro usb 3.0 like the note 3. I noticed last night that when I was plugged in to the included charger and streaming a video from chrome, it actually drained battery rather than charged. Even using it with lighter tasks significantly slows down charging, making it almost a requirement to charge it overnight.
It drains relatively quickly but if i can get 6+ hours of screen on time, between that and my phone it should last me more than a day of heavy use.
until the battery drains to 80% it's at trickle/slow charge. below 80 it charges full power. mine took 3.5hrs from 20 to 100. it took 2hrs 20 min to go 20 to 80 then 1.5 hrs for the last 20%.
Charging and drain
I noticed it drains quickly for the first 15 or 20% but lasts much longer after that. So I can only think that it's not reading the charge evenly.
I experienced a similar issue today. Had it plugged in overnight and most of the morning. Went to unplug it earlier and it was frozen at 83%. That was after about 12 hours of charging. I plugged it in around 40% last night.
The first two nights charged to 100% fine.
when i first got the note it kept getting stuck at 64% but the next day i charged it completely.
this has definitely got to be the reason one of those reviews said it's 7hrs to full charge.
i haven't taken the update yet so i'm assuming the some of you guys have and it's not changed anything. i haven't had any issue yet, but i also haven't had a need to recharge yet.
Old thread, but I am running into two issues:
1. I agree on the drain, but will use for another week to see how things go. So far the battery drain is considerably more than the iPad 4 and Dell 5130.
2. I can not find a spare cable that will allow slow charge through a computer USB. Cables allow MTP, but there is an X on the charge symbol. I tried charging while asleep and when shut off and same result. Not charging.
One of the reasons I got this was not to have to rely on keeping the charger with me like some other Android tablets.
Today I updated my galaxy tab S to 5.0.2 stock. I've had two issues with the update, by the way I'm using the LTE version, one is really slow charging like 10 to 15% an hour slow, And the other is at the fingerprint sensor keeps failing on me asking me to restart.I just keep tapping okay and eventually it will be back to normal really annoying an popping of these dialog boxes to go away I just keep tapping okay and eventually it will be back to normal. I'm not sure about the finger scanner BEFORE the update, but I can tell you I've never dropped it, while charging seemed to be at 25-30 an hour before. Normal or strange?
It sounds like you might need to recalibrate the battery, you can download free apps from the play store that delete the battery calibration data and then you do a full discharge and charge to make a new one, you need to be rooted.
There is a way to recalibrate without be rooted, but it has to be done manually just ask.
The calculation below are just a guess as i never fully charge my 10.5" and have now done about 170 days without restarting it, never since i got it.
I have the 10.5" and it has an 7900mah battery, and it charges at 1800ma till it hits 80% then it slows down, so using a battery charge time calculator it will take me 5H to go from 0% to 80%
If you have the 8.4" as it has an 4900mah battery, if it charges at 1800ma to 80% , it will take 3H to go from 0% to 80%
It`s the last 20% that take the longest to finish as the charge rate is reduce lower and lower till it hits 100%, so i only ever charge my 10.5" to 80% plus it`s better for the battery.
I use GSam Battery Monitor to sound an alarm when the charge hits 80%
John.
AB__CD said:
Today I updated my galaxy tab S to 5.0.2 stock. I've had two issues with the update, by the way I'm using the LTE version, one is really slow charging like 10 to 15% an hour slow, And the other is at the fingerprint sensor keeps failing on me asking me to restart.I just keep tapping okay and eventually it will be back to normal really annoying an popping of these dialog boxes to go away I just keep tapping okay and eventually it will be back to normal. I'm not sure about the finger scanner BEFORE the update, but I can tell you I've never dropped it, while charging seemed to be at 25-30 an hour before. Normal or strange?
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It sounds like you might need to recalibrate the battery, you can download free apps from the play store that delete the battery calibration data and then you do a full discharge and charge to make a new one.
The calculation below are just a guess as i never fully charge my 10.5" and have now does about 170 days without restarting it, never since i got it.
I have the 10.5" and it has an 7900mah battery, and it charges at 1800ma till it hits 80% then it slows down, so using a battery charge time calculator it will take me 5H to go from 0% to 80%
If you have the 8.4" as it has an 4900mah battery, if it charges at 1800ma to 80% , it will take 3H to go from 0% to 80%
It`s the last 20% that take the longest to finish as the charge rate is reduce lower and lower till it hits 100%, so i only ever charge my 10.5" to 80% plus it`s better for the battery.
John.
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I have the 10.5 and it's slow even on lower percent.. Been charging for 2h only gone up 10% from 3 to 12.
Definitely something wrong there.
Are you using the original charger and usb cable, as other chargers and cable can be really slow.
Try the app below, it should tell you your charging current, it should be around 1800ma
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en
John.
AB__CD said:
I have the 10.5 and it's slow even on lower percent.. Been charging for 2h only gone up 10% from 3 to 12.
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Definitely something wrong there.
Are you using the original charger and usb cable, as other chargers and cable can be really slow.
Try the app below, it should tell you your charging current, it should be around 1800ma
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en
John.
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I am using the original charger, and I just charged it for 4h, only got it to 57%. Currently in school, I'll check out the app when I get home
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Definitely something wrong there.
Are you using the original charger and usb cable, as other chargers and cable can be really slow.
Try the app below, it should tell you your charging current, it should be around 1800ma
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abmantis.galaxychargingcurrent.free&hl=en
John.
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Samsung charger is broken, with an LG charger it shows max at 1800 mA, so there's the problem. Thanks!
Great that you have found your problem, did you fix the fingerprint sensor problem you were having?
Also that LG charger are you using, do you have the model number? , as it`s hard to find non Samsung chargers that charge fast.
Thanks
John.
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Well I don't need sugar+caffeine, but regarding the phone it takes at least 100 minute to charge from 1% to 100% on a power socket. On a USB port - I have not tried yet, but it could take double the time I guess.
Pretty crappy. This thing pulls about 1.2mA from the socket and therefore takes a while to charge up. Say about 2 hours to full from 10-15%.
Max amp draw I get. Same with a 10w USB charger or the one plus stock.
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5% to 100% i only need 1 hour 40 minutes something. So its fine with me.
1.5 hours. Pretty fast
Better than Galaxy S3 (my former phone)
120 Minutes (2 Hours) from 5% to 100% for me.
90minutes from 0 to 100℅ which seems pretty fast to me as compared to other phones with "fast charge" which can take take 2h45m for full charge(4000mah)
Hi folks,
Last night, my oneplus X took almost 4 to 5 hours from 0 to 97% (not really 100%!). I noticed this degradation of charging since a couple of months, but i can not figure it out if it came from the battery or from the charger. I tried with another charger, and it takes almost the same time...
And also my battery seems to be less efficient, so i have to consider to replace it or there is another solution ?
Thanks
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Hi folks,
Last night, my oneplus X took almost 4 to 5 hours from 0 to 97% (not really 100%!). I noticed this degradation of charging since a couple of months, but i can not figure it out if it came from the battery or from the charger. I tried with another charger, and it takes almost the same time...
And also my battery seems to be less efficient, so i have to consider to replace it or there is another solution ?
Thanks
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Well, this is an unfortunate tell of events. Onyx has a very very inaccurate fuelguager and it doesn't seem to adjust with time so as the battery degrades, it gets dramatically worse. I too have the sane issue and no matter what I do to circumvent this in my kernel sources, it always pops back up.
Point being, there really isn't a solution though I do soon hope to take a closer look at the fuelguager and rewrite bits of it in my kernel to improve its accuracy
mgBd said:
Hi folks,
Last night, my oneplus X took almost 4 to 5 hours from 0 to 97% (not really 100%!). I noticed this degradation of charging since a couple of months, but i can not figure it out if it came from the battery or from the charger. I tried with another charger, and it takes almost the same time...
And also my battery seems to be less efficient, so i have to consider to replace it or there is another solution ?
Thanks
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I had the same issue. At some point charging became very slow. But if it's decharging at a normal rate, then it's not the battery.
In my case, getting the charging port repaired at a local phone repair shop did the trick. Now charging from 0 to 100% doesn't take 4 hours anymore, but again 1.5 to 2 hours.
enable USB fast charging in Kernel aduitor that also helps.
Keep mobile data off when charging that also speeds up charging.
Not sure if the phone is old. It seems slower to charge. 2 to 2.5 hours with no usage during charging.
Anyone face this?
On lineage 15.1 june build and usb fast charge enabled. Using stock charger.
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Not sure if the phone is old. It seems slower to charge. 2 to 2.5 hours with no usage during charging.
Anyone face this?
On lineage 15.1 june build and usb fast charge enabled. Using stock charger.
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Check charging rate with "Ampere" .
Then, try to unactivate USB debugging and check again (after plug / unplug).
Can I set my mobile to stop charging after a certain percentage?
I don't think so, only scenario I have seen regarding this, is when rooting, max charge level of 80%, but I know of this when I used a note 8
Could I ask why ?
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Could I ask why ?
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They say your battery life decreases when you charge it fully. I got this off a site: Your phone's battery loses capacity every time you keep it fully charged all night, every night. About 20% loss per year!
My Tab S6 has even a setting to restrict charging to 85%.
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My Tab S6 has even a setting to restrict charging to 85%.
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Don't think my Note 10+ has that function:crying:
I also have the Note 10+ and I can confirm that, unfortunately, it does not have the setting to restrict charging to a certain percent.
You could use Bixby Routines to get a remainder (sound or message notification) when charging gets to a certain percentage.
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That's a negative unless rooted.
Accubattery let's set an alarm that sounds even with the screen off (which it should be when charging).
Heat and voltage potential kill Li's. The higher the charge and cell temperature, the more damage.
•Li's love short partial charges midrange between 40-70% ie from say 45 to 65%. Partial midrange charging causes almost no wear.
•Avoid charging to 100%; best to stay below 80%.
•Avoid discharging below 30% or if you do only do a partial charge of 20-30%.
As you get nearer to the 6% limit the battery needs to provide more current to meet the fixed mobo V+/milliamp requirements thus more battery stress and heat buildup. Voltage converters need to work harder as well to step up the voltage for the mobo which also produces slightly more heat.
•Avoid letting the battery charge hot (above 99F).
○Avoid charging batteries below 80F and never charge if below freezing without warning phone first as it can cause Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
Keep phone out of the sun; don't bake it.
•Don't allow a misconfigured apk(s) to constantly run it warm. Excessive current draw increases Li battery wear. An idling 10+ should be relatively cool to the touch.
Find the current drain(s) and correct.
•Fast charging is fine if you remember to not allow deep discharges.
•After about 80-90% to charge rate goes from 2%@min to 1%@min. 62-70% is an ideal charge stopping point for maximum battery lifespan.
○Never store an Li with less than 6%; charge when possible. Li's self discharge at a 2-3 rate per month.
They auto shutdown at 6%; if the voltage falls too low their protection circuitry will permanently disconnect the cell rendering it useless. It takes about 2-8 weeks for this voltage drop to happen in a cell at 6%.
Hi guys
I moved to LOS in the hopes of improving battery life but it's been pretty bad. I'm at my whits end. I tried using PhoneProfilesPlus to turn off all sensors and radios overnight but it didn't help. My phone literally burns through battery after every even small charging cycle. I used GSam Battery Monitor but couldn't identify any specific app to be the culprit either.
Last night I even used "Battery Tool" to stop most all apps as well as "SaverTuner" to change the Doze mode settings but even still I get the following usage curve:
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Btw the times seem to be completely off too. The last charging spike was around midnight.
I also noticed that Wifi won't show as "off" in the stats unless I reboot my device. But doing that didn't change anything either. As you can see, after I rebooted in the evening, the curve was practically flat. After charging a bit and unplugging before sleep though the phone immediately started draining again.
Any help is very appreciated. It seems I can't go back to stock bc of the A13 bootloader but battery life wasn't much better on stock either.
You also have other helpful charts in Gsam.
What do you mean by "unplugging before sleep"?
Turn off your phone completely overnight and compare the charge before and after.
I meant that I don't leave the phone plugged in overnight. Sadly I can't really gleam anything helpful from the statistics. I'm going to try and charge it to full before this night and set a custom reference point
Looking at that graph, do you have your screen always on? The 2-3 hours around midnight show screen on, but no battery drop. I assume you had it on charge at that point?
What charger are you using? I use an Anker 5 port Quickcharge 4 charger with a USB-C cable that has an LED display to show the charging wattage. I usually get 18W (9V*2A) which pushes charge in quite quickly.
I can't speak for LOS20 as I'm on stock A12, but the battery does seem to discharge faster than you expect.
I use AccuBattery to monitor the power usage and charge/discharge history. Put it this way, I find I do a number of smaller charges through the day. Driving along, I'll have the phone hooked up to the Android Auto slow charging it while I'm using it. I get home and I'll stick it on charge for 45 minutes to boost it up from 20% to 80%.
The rated capacity of the battery is 3905mAh, and AccuBattery is estimating my current battry capacity at 3443mAh, a reduction of 12% in 9 months. That's with only charging between 15% and 80% most of the time. I'll give it a 100% once a month or so.
Thanks for your replies!
I'm thinking something is really wrong with deep doze in my case. I charged my phone fully and got to 50% in a day's use. I made a point of not plugging it in at all because normally you'd expect it to survive on half a battery but no dice. it just starts burning through battery suddenly.
I'm honestly unsure about this graph too. I certainly didn't use the phone and the screen until 2am. I might need to look at other apps too but that doesn't change that my pone went from 55% to 0 in about 6h.
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(...) I certainly didn't use the phone and the screen until 2am. (...)
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You didn't have to use. Apps and services do it for you.