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battery drain tips?

When I run the latest android build on my Tilt 2, it flies through battery like no other.
Are there any settings I can tweak to get at least a full day's worth of use out of it (mostly in standby anyways)?
Thanks
Regards
Smith

I'd love to hear anyone's tips as well. As mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7959929&postcount=7622
Setting the sleep mode = 1 doesn't seem to work for me. The processor seemingly goes to sleep and enters a coma (yes, I set the clock speed back to stock in the startup.txt).
One quick tip to the OP is set the clock speed to stock.
Edit: sleep mode = 0 seems to work (GSM phone here). However, deleting the "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=XXX" line from the startup.txt and setting sleep=1 just might work as well.
Edit2: sleep mode = 0 seems to result in the phone functionality breaking. It stopped waking up to phone calls after a while, and calling out wouldn't work either. Damn.. Just a heads up.

1. Close every program that you don't use on startup of android. You can do this with advanced task killer.
2. Run stock speeds.
3. Turn down the screen brightness.
4. Make sure your phone goes to sleep when you are not using it (green led = sleep)

Is advanced task killer installed by default?
Also, how can I clock it to stock? I wasn't aware that it was overclocked past stock.
Screen brightness makes sense, I'll definitely do that.
So, if green is sleep, what is the orange?
Thanks
Smith

I reckon hepatic feedback would drain a little battery on its own probably best to turn that off

This is all true. I'll have to do that.
Still figuring it all out. Once I can get a solid 18-24 hour charge cycle out of it, Android will become my primary OS, easily. Simply works better, IMO

For me sometimes it's green, sometimes it's Orange - not sure how to change it back green -
I use Advance Task Killer, but then i also read that Froyo 2.2 doesn't need a task killer?
The two things that have helped battery life the most were:
-Switching to stock clock speed (the reference over the overclocked BLZN which i loved but killed the battery life)
-turning off background processes... i only turn it on when i have to (using the market, etc)
I would love to hear more tips

The colours are not that hard.
Red/orange = awake
Green = sleeping
If the LED stays red, then your device is doing something, you can either wait or try closing the programs with the task killer. That will help sometimes.
For returning to stock speeds read the faq And advanced task killer can be downloaded in the market.

Thank you guys all so much, big, big help to me!
Android is definitely going to be my full time OS shortly
Smith

Its kind of tough trying to go anywhere without a charger nearby. The battery drains quickly and on top of that the actual battery meter is off.
So sometimes that is a main issue
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throwback1718 said:
Its kind of tough trying to go anywhere without a charger nearby. The battery drains quickly and on top of that the actual battery meter is off.
So sometimes that is a main issue
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Indeed but that is something that they are working on it as we speak. Give them time

I ran a test last night before going to sleep to see how long the phone lasts.
Charged my phone fully. Ran advanced task killer and killed all the programs. Put the phone in deep sleep ( green light).
Woke up 7 hours later and phone was completely dead. I do have auto sync turned on, but only over wifi, so it should not have used any data as i have the data turned off and no widgets on my home screens that auto-update.
I'll try again tonight for a shorter time (5 hours).
Running the blazn aug 30th build.

karan1203 said:
I ran a test last night before going to sleep to see how long the phone lasts.
Charged my phone fully. Ran advanced task killer and killed all the programs. Put the phone in deep sleep ( green light).
Woke up 7 hours later and phone was completely dead. I do have auto sync turned on, but only over wifi, so it should not have used any data as i have the data turned off and no widgets on my home screens that auto-update.
I'll try again tonight for a shorter time (5 hours).
Running the blazn aug 30th build.
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How did you 'put the phone in a deep sleep'

I turned off all auto updates.
The next day i did the test again, charged the phone to 100% and used the phone moderately for 8 hours before the battery died.
Without overclocking i can safely say i can get the phone to last 8 hours with moderate to heavy usage, which is excellent.

My main problem with the new updates are that it constantly restarts or crashes after using it for less than 30 minutes while before I could use it for several hours. Not sure whether it's to do with battery life or not as when it boots back in WM the battery is near full.
The biggest things that have helped conserve battery life for me are disabling GPS and background syncing but some apps require this to be enabled. :S

Phone seems to recover from "sleep"
FWIW, I set sleep mode = 1 and removed the overclock line from the startup.txt and the phone SEEMS to sleep and "wake up" just fine. Previously, I had problems with the phone going to sleep and when waking up, everything seemed fine, but the phone didn't work. With the overclock line removed, it seems to "wake up" with the phone working now.
Just a heads up to anyone who wants to save battery life.. might want to remove the overclocking line in the startup.txt..

[Q] Is it normal

Hi guys,
I'm all new to Android, having previously used the TG01, moving to DHD is such a right decision and honesty think i may not use winmo ever again.
However, I notice something weird (or at least I think it is) one of which is my free Ram at boost is only 3xx Mb. Considering I have 768 Mb RAM, am I supposed to have around 700 Mb at boot??? or is that the way Android work??. Also note that I use Advanced task killer to see that number since I don't know where to know my available free Ram (noob?). Do you guys have the same amount of Free Ram at boot?
Lots of apps like yahoo messenger, internet browser.. which I do not how to properly close them (I press either home or back keys). They keeps running in the background and even after using advanced task killer to close them, they are amazingly still there. Do I suck or again is it how Android works.
Also, after 3 full charging cycle, unplugging at 7 am, having around 30 mins gaming, wifi on all the time but sometimes not connected, 3g all the time, Yahoo messenger running in background, some mails (not automatically syncs), messages, calls and about half an hour web surfing, it rests in peace at 4.30 pm. Is it normal or Do I have faulty battery. Forgot to mention I set back light at 30%.
Again, if the thread duplicates please accept my apology. I did do some search but have not found info I need. I'm all new to android so any help would do.
Cheers,

Hi,
This is how Android works. Task killers are a waste of time, your phone will use more resources just loading the apps back into memory.
As for the battery, do you need to keep wifi on all day? There is your problem. Turn it off.
Try JuiceDefender from the Android Market. You will certainly notice a battery improvement using it.

andyharney said:
Hi,
This is how Android works. Task killers are a waste of time, your phone will use more resources just loading the apps back into memory.
As for the battery, do you need to keep wifi on all day? There is your problem. Turn it off.
Try JuiceDefender from the Android Market. You will certainly notice a battery improvement using it.
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Thanks for your help
Removed task killers and installing Juice Defender, hope to see improvement there.

Well,the DHD in all its awesomeness is always gonna miss one thing:Good battery life.Not because it sucks much power or something,but the battery is the smallest I've seen on a high-end device,and,considering the huge screen(which uses from 60% up to 85% of the battery),it won't do really well.However it's not so bad either!I for one,after some charging cycles(I have it about a month now)get much better battery life.Taken off charge at 8am,usage varying depending on the day(eg I don't use it much at school),I still have enough battery at night(around midnight)to play some games for a while and listen to music.Brightness is always full!Can't accept lower with this screen!

tolis626 said:
Well,the DHD in all its awesomeness is always gonna miss one thing:Good battery life.Not because it sucks much power or something,but the battery is the smallest I've seen on a high-end device,and,considering the huge screen(which uses from 60% up to 85% of the battery),it won't do really well.However it's not so bad either!I for one,after some charging cycles(I have it about a month now)get much better battery life.Taken off charge at 8am,usage varying depending on the day(eg I don't use it much at school),I still have enough battery at night(around midnight)to play some games for a while and listen to music.Brightness is always full!Can't accept lower with this screen!
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No No Noooooooo
With JuiceDefender activated, wifi on occasionally, 3G and Yahoo messenger all the time, 1 hour game, about 30 mins calls and some text, my phone was dead after 10 hours.
Really depressed, I read in battery thread this trick:
Quote from santu001
The official battery trick from HTC tells us to first charge 8 hours or more, then 1 hour while off, boot and let it settle for two minutes, turn off and charge another hour.
I'm on the fourth day since i've done this. After i did this, i deactived all appkillers (advanced taskkiller i.m.c.). Letting the system balance itself as quoted in one of my earlier posts.
I'm on the fifth day after calibration now and have 35% left after 21 hours since last plugin. I didn't turn off anything. I can see through current widget log it's still been very active from -3ma till -30ma in standby, no spikes though. For now i'm getting increased batterlife.
Default phone battery monitor results
Juice left 35%
Screen 39%
Mobile standby 20%
Phone inactive 18%
Speach 7%
Wifi 7%
Android system 4%
Android OS 3%
com.htc launcher 2% (Even though a lot of apps still loaded in BG)
Does anyone try that one?? Does it really improve your battery life (i do not understand the logic though)

keep in mind also, 250mb of ram is dedicated to adreno as vram, so the device only has just over 500mb of usable ram

bagiabanmaybay said:
No No Noooooooo
With JuiceDefender activated, wifi on occasionally, 3G and Yahoo messenger all the time, 1 hour game, about 30 mins calls and some text, my phone was dead after 10 hours.
Really depressed, I read in battery thread this trick:
Quote from santu001
The official battery trick from HTC tells us to first charge 8 hours or more, then 1 hour while off, boot and let it settle for two minutes, turn off and charge another hour.
I'm on the fourth day since i've done this. After i did this, i deactived all appkillers (advanced taskkiller i.m.c.). Letting the system balance itself as quoted in one of my earlier posts.
I'm on the fifth day after calibration now and have 35% left after 21 hours since last plugin. I didn't turn off anything. I can see through current widget log it's still been very active from -3ma till -30ma in standby, no spikes though. For now i'm getting increased batterlife.
Default phone battery monitor results
Juice left 35%
Screen 39%
Mobile standby 20%
Phone inactive 18%
Speach 7%
Wifi 7%
Android system 4%
Android OS 3%
com.htc launcher 2% (Even though a lot of apps still loaded in BG)
Does anyone try that one?? Does it really improve your battery life (i do not understand the logic though)
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Be patient young Padawan!
On my Diamond(good old days...well,maybe not so good! )the situation was about the same and it took the battery a little more than a month to give me its full potential.This might be the case here too.Don't judge it just yet.Except it's faulty of course!
Anyway,there is always a chance that a badly coded app is doing something nasty with your device.You might want to install system panel(very useful app,both one of the best task killers I've used and a really good system monitoring app) from market.It will show you if any app is using your ram or cpu too much.If one does,try uninstalling it and see what happens.
Hope you solve your problem!

what would be the best kernal for me to have ?

my battery drains like a bugatti veyron doing 252mph constantly
so what would you advise . is the kernal i have now the best or should i change .. i dont want to reall lose much performance on what i have now but would like the battery to maybe improve if possible ...
from full charge taking plug out searching market for 2 mins the battery drains 5-8% in matter of mins
and i have only had the phone a week

With that kind of drains the problems the kernel won't change that much. There is probably a app that causes the battery drain so looking in to that will have more effect. Also the brightness/screen on is the biggest drain and kernel won't do much about that.
You said that you have the phone a week, the battery needs some time to reach it's full potential and you probably use the phone a lot because it's new. So use the phone normally for another week, after that week let the phone drain until it shuts itself off, leaf it off and charge it till it's full. (there is a different calibration method but this always worked for me)

What do you have now? Stock or rooted?
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First of all, I would assume that you don't use the phone non-stop (it would be justified to lose power in a few hours if you're on it non-stop).
I recently had issues with power consumption as well. What I did was:
1) check the built in battery monitor: menu-settings-about phone-battery-battery use. The bad thing about this monitor is that it does not differentiate well the apps consuming power, but you can still see if there's something wrong, as the most consumption should come normally from the screen and voice calls. For me, the most consumption was made by com.htc.bg, which, if I let the monitor on for a few seconds, would transform in the calendar app. Weird stuff. I unchecked the calednar auto sync from menu-settings-accounts and sync. It may have slowed the power loss down, but not significantly. I noticed a significant loss of battery by WiFi. I realized, I needed more information so:
2) I installed an app called 'Power Tutor'. What it does is, it calculates which apps consumes power, and it shows you in percentages. After install, you need to start the 'power profiler'. It will appear in your notification bar. If you let it run, after a few hours, you can see in "view application power usage" who is using power. That's how I discovered that my winamp app was really off the charts using power like crazy. So I went in the winamp settings, and I unchecked some options that could have determined this power consumption, like wireless sync, automatic mount as USB drive, etc. There was actually an option that was overriding the wifi power management, stating that the wifi does not stop after 180 seconds of standby. Basically, if you have wifi on, and you stop using the phone for 3 minutes, the phone automatically turns off the wifi. This was not happening any more, due to winamp. So I unchecked all those options, and voila. It worked, I have now normal battery life.
Good luck!

be aware of a couple of things
1. battery drain for the 1st few weeks are high because of a couple of factors, the battery "learns" and gets conditioned over a period of time (doesnt use the old 16hr charge process). its a new device for you so its a novelty, you probably mess about with it with the screen on more than you think.
2. there is a configuration within HTC's builds and in the memory chip of the battery to stop over charging. the device will charge to 100 and then slowly deplete to 90% while still saying full on the phone. as soon as you disconnect it recalibrates to the correct value which is anywhere between 90% and 100% depending at which part of the cycle you catch it

Some other tips to increase battery life, from a friend of mine in the Romanian forum:
1) use the app watchdog, it will warn you when an app is using too much of the processor and will ask you if you want to close it.
2) juice defender with the paid add-on 'ultimate juice' - with the correct settings... it's amazing.
3) Dial *#*#4636#*#* - phone information-network type: select gsm auto prl. The phone will stay on 3G when it has good signal, and switch to 2G when it doesnt, saving battery
4) Change the wallpaper to a static one, not a live one.
5) Go to menu-settings-accounts and sync and increase sync intervals for weather, news, or even set them to sync manually when you choose.

i will try and answer everything at once ..
ok my screen is on 13% brightness
i hardly ever use my phone , the only real use was to root , s-off, put ROM ETC ON
I reply to about 50 texts ish per day and search the market for literally 1-2 mins to see what new apps are in
i dont play games or anything
the thing the battery uses most is the screen and as i say i have it on monochrome theme with 13% brightness, there is nothing synced , i check automatically for email etc .. actually beautiful widgets is set to auto update every 4 hours
i never use wifi as i have a 3gb download/data usage, i dont use gps ...well i do but i have had no need to .. thats about all i can tell ya
rastaman the pt2 is a bit weird it should stay at 100 if just taken out of charge

I calibrated the battery and that made no difference.
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Battery drain is ridiculous...please help

My battery is draining like CRAZY and i cant seem to find out what the issue is. Ive tried calibration several times and using a task manager that turns off running apps every few seconds(which seemed to make it worse) and that didn't help. Auto updates are turned off and fbook is only set to update every hour and brightness is set to minimum yet my battery only seem to last 8hrs. please help. i would really like to pinpoint what the issue is.
Oh...im running ERA Legendary 2.1, CPU speed and voltages are stock

That screenshot is worthless. It doesn't show anything useful. Percentages are meaningless. Get Betterbatterystats to see what is running as far as processes and partial wakes. Get CPUspy. To make sure your phone is going into deep sleep. Get Memory Booster Lite to see what is using your battery and get rid of the auto task killer. That will kill your battery fast.
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kennyglass123 said:
That screenshot is worthless. It doesn't show anything useful. Percentages are meaningless. Get Betterbatterystats to see what is running as far as processes and partial wakes. Get CPUspy. To make sure your phone is going into deep sleep. Get Memory Booster Lite to see what is using your battery and get rid of the auto task killer. That will kill your battery fast.
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i only posted the screen shot to show the time vs percentage. i already got rid of the task killer and here is a screenshot from better battery stats. idk how to stop the processes though...

Again the percentages mean nothing. In Gingerbread everything goes through Android system so it will always be highest. If you use your phone only an hour or two a day then it will drop to around 60% with cell standby getting higher. They will always add up to 100% whether on a minute or 10 hours.
You didn't post the partial wake locks screen. Also did you check CPUspy for deep sleep? Did you uninstall the autokiller? You can go into settings>applications>running services and stop applications that shouldn't be running like Facebook or music and video players, etc. Sometimes it's best to get an app like Bloat freezer and freeze apps that keep reloading if you don't use them often.

CardnalSyn said:
My battery is draining like CRAZY and i cant seem to find out what the issue is. Ive tried calibration several times and using a task manager that turns off running apps every few seconds(which seemed to make it worse) and that didn't help. Auto updates are turned off and fbook is only set to update every hour and brightness is set to minimum yet my battery only seem to last 8hrs. please help. i would really like to pinpoint what the issue is.
Oh...im running ERA Legendary 2.1, CPU speed and voltages are stock
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Another question and maybe the most important...what is your screen on time? I didn't see it in the screen shots. I think Max screen on Time I have gotten is right around 4hours. All the battery tweaks in the world wont help, if your screen is on a lot. Also...make sure to freeze drm, sns and system updates. Use randomlking's zip file.
If none of that works...wash, rinse, repeat. Wipe clean and reflash, rom and kernel.
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As I'm sure you know, everyone's battery drainage is widely independent. However; I'm on "stock" Legendary 2.1 and recently with the updated Samurai kernel as well and run Juice Defender Ultimate. I've got some advance settings set but over the past 3-4 days, I average about 20 to 22 hours on a single charge.
My usage in an average day is: about 20-30 texts, about 10 minutes of phone calls, 10-12 emails in and out, 10 minutes of web, whatever app updates there may be and maybe about 15-30 minutes of light to medium use games.
If JDU is something you might want to look into, I would be more than willing to post my setup to get you started. <--For some reason, people are real stingy with their JDU settings.

This kinda thing just happens sometimes, and usually clears up on it's own. Especially common after flashing new software.
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[Q] 100% full charge to 0% in 6 hours??

I charged my Nexus LTE(unrooted,4 days old) till it was 100% before I went to bed. As soon as I set my alarm I unplugged it to test to idle. Well I just woke up 6 hours later and it was completly dead. I have it on the charger now, I hope i can see the spycpu cause that was main purpose for leaving it off. I do not sleep surf either.
Is this a defective phone?

Wow that's nuts. I definitely never get that sort of battery drain. Are you rooted? Using a custom rom or just stock?

jd1001 said:
Wow that's nuts. I definitely never get that sort of battery drain. Are you rooted? Using a custom rom or just stock?
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unrooted.
I have to leave for work now with out a phone, I will try to check up via computer (feeling like a dinosaur).

Ha ha I know I feel so bad when I don't have my phone. Maybe see if it happens again tonight. If it does I would get on to the carrier. Have a good day at work!

jd1001 said:
Ha ha I know I feel so bad when I don't have my phone. Maybe see if it happens again tonight. If it does I would get on to the carrier. Have a good day at work!
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Ill try both.

It has been documented the Verizon has battery issues but not sure if they were meant to be fixed in the 4.0.2 update

davewinkwink said:
I charged my Nexus LTE(unrooted,4 days old) till it was 100% before I went to bed. As soon as I set my alarm I unplugged it to test to idle. Well I just woke up 6 hours later and it was completly dead. I have it on the charger now, I hope i can see the spycpu cause that was main purpose for leaving it off. I do not sleep surf either.
Is this a defective phone?
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Are you sure it was dead or you just had a sleep of death? If it truly was dead you definitely have something draining your battery during idle. I highly recommend you turn off your LTE antenna if you haven't already unless your using data intensive apps and you need it, such as surfing or netflix or something. Also, change your sync times to less often, I do every 15min. Sign out of google talk, use wifi when you can, adjust screen brightness, disable bluetooth. White backgrounds will eat your battery faster as well. What else am i forgetting.... Root will help if you can manage to, its incredibly easy especially with the new rootkit out, because you can load francos newest build which has increased my battery 2x, with 25% drain in the last 8.5 hours even with a 1/2 hr of whale tail last night. Also make sure your not running something stupid in your background thats eating your battery like a task killer or battery spy or something, those just rape your battery

If you turn on Google+ instant upload and it has thousands of pictures to upload that will kill your battery in a few hours. If your phone is staying awake because of Android OS then try turning off your GPS.
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As noted in a lot threads on a lot of forums, there are some phones that have a problem with the Android OS and the "Keep Awake" time. There seems to be an issue with some phones not truly going to sleep when the power button is used to turn off the screen as opposed to letting the screen turn off automatically when the screen times out. This results in a very high time in the Settings/Battery/Android OS/Keep Awake menu.
In stock form and with every rom that I have installed, my "Keep Awake" time was always about 50-60% of my total battery time. If the phone had been off charger for 8 hours, I'd have 4-6 hours of Andorid OS "Keep Awake" time. This was true even if the phone had been in my pocket unused and seems to be exacerbated by my habit of turning the screen off manually with the power button every single time. I used to never let the screen timeout.
There seems to be two "fixes" according to Franco (of kernel fame). One concerns the camera. Seems the camera is started and then turned off during startup. But in so doing, it leaves a sensor active and this prevents the phone from actually going to sleep. So he recommends starting and using the back button to go back to the home screen. The other is DRM Protected Content. He recommends this be disabled or frozen. A third, that I don't believe I recall seeing him recommend but that I have seen on his thread at XDA (down for blackout right now) is to disable Maps.
I have done all three of those and my Keep Awake time has gone from 40-50% of my total battery time down to a few percentage points. I mean if I don't use my phone it will now show less than a minute of Keep Awake time per hour.
Good luck 

My VZW nexus can idle with moderate use on constant LTE and get 15 hours with out issue. Hell I have even gotten more so check google+ as suggested. If it went dead on idle with nothing running constantly to cause it than I would say your phone and/or battery is defective

Geezer Squid said:
As noted in a lot threads on a lot of forums, there are some phones that have a problem with the Android OS and the "Keep Awake" time. There seems to be an issue with some phones not truly going to sleep when the power button is used to turn off the screen as opposed to letting the screen turn off automatically when the screen times out. This results in a very high time in the Settings/Battery/Android OS/Keep Awake menu.
In stock form and with every rom that I have installed, my "Keep Awake" time was always about 50-60% of my total battery time. If the phone had been off charger for 8 hours, I'd have 4-6 hours of Andorid OS "Keep Awake" time. This was true even if the phone had been in my pocket unused and seems to be exacerbated by my habit of turning the screen off manually with the power button every single time. I used to never let the screen timeout.
There seems to be two "fixes" according to Franco (of kernel fame). One concerns the camera. Seems the camera is started and then turned off during startup. But in so doing, it leaves a sensor active and this prevents the phone from actually going to sleep. So he recommends starting and using the back button to go back to the home screen. The other is DRM Protected Content. He recommends this be disabled or frozen. A third, that I don't believe I recall seeing him recommend but that I have seen on his thread at XDA (down for blackout right now) is to disable Maps.
I have done all three of those and my Keep Awake time has gone from 40-50% of my total battery time down to a few percentage points. I mean if I don't use my phone it will now show less than a minute of Keep Awake time per hour.
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Ive been getting good battery life, despite my awake time being around 6-8 hours at the end of a charge. I tried the camera close but that never helped, I've just disabled DRM though. Also, GPS locator has been associated with this, which is probably what you meant by "maps". I just turn off my location unless i need it for navigation in location settings

how do you disable drm? and what exactly is it?

Peesashiz said:
how do you disable drm? and what exactly is it?
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It has to do with digitally protected files, music, etc. One time I went home screen/menu/settings/apps/all/drm/disable. The last time I did it from Titanium and pressed the freeze button for that app.
Good luck.
BTW, both actions can be reversed.