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[HOWTO] Install Latest WaveSecure in ROM

I found that [email protected]'s ROM had a good idea of adding WaveSecure to the system partition (preventing listing in the My Downloads part of market, and preventing uninstallation through normal means), but his version is slightly out of date now (latest version is 3.0.0.43)
As a result, I set about finding a means to install WaveSecure to ROM myself. Here are my findings for anyone interested in doing the same.
Install the latest version from the market (3.0.0.43 at this time). Now use adb pull to get it off the device onto your pc
Code:
adb pull /data/app/com.wsandroid.apk D:\com.wsandroid.apk
Now open Market back up from the menu, go to My Downloads, and choose Wavesecure Mobile Security Beta and uninstall it for just now (to get it off the data/A2SD location that normal apps are stored in) - thanks, my-space!
Then push the saved apk to the system partition after a remount (to make it read/write)
Code:
adb remount
Code:
adb push D:\com.wsandroid.apk /system/app/com.wsandroid.apk
Then set it all up as usual (will appear in apps list immediately)
and remount system as read only again
Code:
adb remount
And that seems to be it so far. Remember to change the D:\com.wsandroid.apk path to whatever you actually used.
Let me know if anyone finds any problems with this, but I've done it and, fingers crossed, it's worked OK for me.
Obviously, this is only for root users, and there are no guarantees for this.
Couple of questions that might need looked into -
- Do settings carry across after a wipe (as Paul claims Modaco's version does. I've never tried it so can't confirm)
- Is there any disadvantage to using this method? (I guess this is all Modaco's update.zip does, but I don't know)

you forgot to metion to uninstall wavesecure before it is pushed back into system....

my_space said:
you forgot to metion to uninstall wavesecure before it is pushed back into system....
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Oops! Knew I'd forget something, as I always seem prone to do. Well spotted, and OP corrected.
Thanks

No worries I got a bit confused when i pushed it back onto the phone and was still in my downloads...

I've rooted my phone already but whenever i try to use the command adb remount I get "remount failed: operation not permitted". Suggestions?

I see more and more often, redundant threads.
What How-to will you post next time? How to change backlight settings?
You're pointlessly spamming the board.

I can't say i agree with the 'pointlessly spamming the board' comment, but i would have thought this would at least be better in the applications and themes subforum rather than in development.
Don't forget that an awful lot of android users (and more recently all HTC devices) are more and more 'newbs' and need stuff like this.
While this is good and provides info that people like that need (and myself cos i'm crap at adb and stuff like that so wouldn't have had a clue how to do this previously), maybe the development forum is not the best place for it....

I'm guessing one won't be notified via Market if there's an update available if you push an app to /system/app/, right?

usb0 said:
I'm guessing one won't be notified via Market if there's an update available if you push an app to /system/app/, right?
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You won't be notified, correct

If anybody doesn't already know, WaveSecure have started hosting update.zip files. This means it's now easy to update your "baked-in" version of WaveSecure without much messing around.
https://www.wavesecure.com/installations/update.zip
Download the file, save it to your SD card, reboot into the recovery console and choose the option to apply an update.zip file.
Voila! Your version of WaveSecure will be updated to the very latest version

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That's really awesome! Thanks for the tip!
Just a question of curiosity: If I push an app to /system/app/ and then issue the rm-command to remove its apk, won't there be lying a bunch of files associated with the program and with absolutely no function, since the app itself is removed? How do I know the name of these files and where they are located for removal?

I'm a bit confused by that question. My understanding (which may be incorrect but from what I've seen of the "guts of a ROM" appears to be the case) is that the applications reside in the apk files, they are not extracted. If you list the content of any of the app folders (/system/app, /data/app or /data/app-private) then all you get is a bunch of apk files (and some odex files). So when you 'push' an apk to the phone, that application is then "installed", when you rm/remove an application, you do so by removing the apk.

if you remove the apk you have left something in /data/dalvik-cache. wiping the dalvik-cache every now and then helps reclaiming that space, though it is not much.
the app settings and data are stored in /data/data, you could delete the files manually by checking their names (no idea if/what convention the names follow), imho not worth the trouble as it is only a few kb.
odex files aren't created if you don't do in a PITA process manually. don't worry about them, don't touch them, then you're good. odex files are only for system apps.

I bought a used phone and it had WaveSecure already installed. I couldn't find it in the applications list to uninstall, so I did a factory reset on the phone. The application was still there and it still didn't show up in the applications list.
I have the Superuser Permissions application, so someone must have rooted it.
Is there any way to uninstall this?

motomeup said:
I bought a used phone and it had WaveSecure already installed. I couldn't find it in the applications list to uninstall, so I did a factory reset on the phone. The application was still there and it still didn't show up in the applications list.
I have the Superuser Permissions application, so someone must have rooted it.
Is there any way to uninstall this?
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""Just (re)flash a ROM................""

I just noticed that WaveSecure now points to this post for instructions to install as system application, and I am not sure that the update.zip maintained with them is up-to-date.
However, you can now select to download the .apk directly to your PC thus eliminating the first Market step in this guide.

strife242 said:
I just noticed that WaveSecure now points to this post for instructions to install as system application, and I am not sure that the update.zip maintained with them is up-to-date.
However, you can now select to download the .apk directly to your PC thus eliminating the first Market step in this guide.
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I believe it is kept up to date, as VillainROM kitchen uses it as a source for the WaveSecure app (fetched each night to keep it up-to-date).
I've certainly never had any problems with it.

Excellent guide Pulser,... I should really reinstall Wavesecure now Im not using a MoDacO Custom ROM. Nice one bruv.

Found this to be helpful.
https://www.wavesecure.com/blog/how-to-make-wavesecure-hard-reset-proof.aspx

I just did a search in the Market fro 'wavesecure' and two things popped up WaveSecure and WaveSecure UninstallProtection Add-on which needs to be uninstalled before WaveSecure and if the add-on is uninstalled it is supposed to lock the phone. (all this is in the description I have yet to try)

Wow.

Hi all,
I have been a winmob user for over 5 years and i know pretty much everything about them. (see join date) Though 3 days ago i got a a8183 desire.
My god i have a lot to learn about Android. Winmob seemed so much simplier to pick apart with registry and custom roms.
Anyways i have been reading thread after thread for days yet i still have a couple of questions that i cannot get clear answers for.
I have a a8183 telstra desire running on optus. I have updated to the latest offical 2.2 ROM. (Everyone mentions OTA (over the air) though i downloaded it and installed thru windows).
So i would appreciate if someone could help me out with my questions/assumptions.
1. From what i have read you cannot r00t a froyo OS. Is that right? Though i have found an app z4root that will do it temporarily until reboot. Unrevoked doesnt seem to work.
2. To change system files you need not only root though you need the clockworkmod recovery part of the bootloader. (eg. to replace HOST file for adblocking).
3. You need permanent r00t to install the clockworkmod (so i cannot do this).
4. You cannot remove default ROM apps from your phone without the clockworkmod.
5. You need clockworkmod to install custom ROMs.
So from what i gather.. r00t is good. though really only cause it gets you the clockworkmod recovery which is where you can really hack it.
And to get this i need to downgrade to 2.1, r00t, clockwork then use a hacked rom for 2.2?
Your help is greatly appreciated.

hi sage, i too came from windows mobile so i know how you feel, lucky for me i jumped on the android bandwagon earlier with the htc hero, after i got bored with my HD1, anyway your wrong on quite a few points, so i'll point you in the right direction.
1) the latest version of unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com/recovery) is more than able to root the froyo roms, its a one click app and can root your device in minutes
2) to easly modify system files you need s-off (this is equivalent to HSPL on wm devices) after you have rooted, you need to search for alpharev, this is a linux live cd, you just burn it and boot it and it will security unlock your device.
3) when you download and run unrevoked, it will not only root your device but insatall the latest version of clockworkmod recovery. (just hold vol down and power when your device is off to access hboot, and choose recovery from the list) so unrevoked kills 2 birds with one stone
4) to remove the apps in the /system/ partition there are 2 ways, from recovery using adb, or if you flash the s-off mod, you can remove them directly from your device using a file manager.
5) yes you need clockworkmod or another custom recovery to install custom roms, but now you know how to do it, thats not a problem

Hi Sage,
If you're looking for an easier way to get rid of all the Telstra apps (more like a blob of links really ) on your phone you may want to try one of the stock HTC WWE ROMs. It's clean and you can flash it via exe, just like in WM. The latest RUU I believe is the 2.29.405.2. Also, be aware of the risks of rooting your phone.

thanks for your response guys
Ok so i am now r00ted and running Leedroid's WWE ROM! (thank you!) it was actually pretty easy.
I think unrevoked was failing cause i was using a USB HUB.
OK so now i just want to remove some more of the default apps that come with it.
So i will try alpharev to security unlock my device. (is this permanent or if i reflash my rom it will come back?)
once i have done this i can then delete anything i like thru r00t explorer?
At this stage i am trying to just make some more room for apps. As a number of them wont move to SD Card.
A couple of last questions if i may. I have an new SD Card on order. Am i able to simply copy everything from my existing SD to my new and then swap it over in my phone and it will all be ok? Or do i need 'clone' it with some tool?
Where in the system paths do i remove 'shortcuts' within all apps? (or even simply rename them.)
Much appreciate your help. Android is growing on me. I especially love adb logcat!

ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
and lastly now i have the alpharev bootloader so gonna google how to change that
i did use the Leedroid apps2sd ROM. though most of my apps are still going to phone memory and i cant move them across.
Is there a fix for this? i guess once i work out how to delete these read-only files ill be ok anyway.

Unfortunately removing system apps wont give you more space to install apps, they are stored under a different partition, /system and /data are not on the same disk so you can save as much space on /system as you want but it won't affect /data at all.
With running out of space you have a few choices:
Go to settings..applications..then manage and move as many apps to SD as you can. This is fro-yo apps2sd, not all data is moved and not all apps can be moved, so you will probably run out of space again anyway.
Or
Reboot into recovery and partition your sdcard to create an ext partition, when you boot your rom ALL apps will be moved to the ext partition leaving lots of free space. Backup your sdcard before you partition it, you will lose all data.

Sage said:
ok.. i am now security off'd alpharev worked a treat.
1) i am now using r00t explorer to try and delete items from /system/app though they come up read-only so i cannot delete them
2) i take when i get to remove these the phone will have more stoage space for apps yeah?
3) i also still cannot find where the all apps shortcuts sit! (so i can rename/remove).
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1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc.
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same

mr.r9 said:
1) Press on Remount as R/O, this should allow you to delete/replace system stuff & ringtones, fonts...etc. Typo..You meant R/W
2)No, because apps install to data/apps & not system/apps.
3)You mean like the applicatiuon menu when we used to delete shortcuts or rename them? Hahaha man that was sooooooooooooo long time ago for me. Anyway, the applications installed are displayer & you can't hide them or rearrange them like Winmo. You might want to try Launcher Pro to hide apps in the apps drawer.
If you need more info, ask freely because 2 years ago I went through the same
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Hmm..actually the new MTD partition table hack should be able to free space on the /system, adjusting partitions with less for /system and /cache and more for /data/app should give enough space..Though I'm not sure if he wants to try this right now, since it's considered an advanced task and maybe he'd like to get more accustomed to Android before attempting it? His wish though..
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..

droidzone said:
And well, there's yet another method to remove system apps, other than the other two methods. This is to modify the zip file of the custom rom to remove the actual apks from /system and reflashing it on top of the actual flash..
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Ohh yes indeed. OP, you can edit the zip before installing it to your device. You can remove/replace application in system/data and fonts...etc. Just remember to change signature verification to off in your recovery.

my god. i have spent days on this baby and im only barely scratching the surface
much appreciate all your help guys!
ok.. so its time to use app2sd i hear that app2sd+ is better though? (it moves more data to SD yeah? appcache?)
i only have 2Gb microsd right now so i might wait until i my 8GB arrives before i flash a new ROM and start again (again!)
i also noticed these online kitchens. http://cookmyrom.co.cc
which look great! tho they are still a version behind the leedroid i am using tho its a good way to get rid of some default apps.
i certainly like the idea of reparitioning the default disk though not quite ready for that yet especially when app2sd+ sounds much more straight forward.
i am dumbfounded that you cant remove 'shortcuts' from the All Apps! or even rename them!! my god. i would think that was first thing available on such an open source OS.
So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!?? and if i create another one its called "Folder" too!
lol.. this OS is so advanced yet some basic stuff seems to be overlooked.
I did try launcher pro though it removed my HTC Sense (which i like). So i might need to keep looking for an app to help organise my All Apps and my desktop (is desktop what its called?)
And just how do i add ringtones?
love your work guys thanks again.

Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.

mr.r9 said:
Create a folder called Ringtones on the root of your SD to have...ringtones.
When you open a folder, long press on the header to rename it.
As for organizing, I stopped caring & started to use search, but maybe if you want you can try an app called folder organizer.
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nice one thank you!

Sage said:
...So i have now created a folder called "Folder" to reduce the clutter.. and now i guess i cant even rename it!??...
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Open the folder then hold where it says folder to change its name.

Ok. Now have app2sd working!
thanks to all of you. Beginning to love this android phone now. I feel sorry for all the people who use them as they come from the factory! Thank god for all the xda people who rip them to shreds and make them better

If i can have one last question. Any way to remap hardware buttons to start an app?
Like when you hold down the search button it launches Google Voice. I want it to launch a different app..
I did a search and found the hardware button remapper though it only does hardware to hardware.. not hardware to app

For Folders(Assuming you're using full HTC Sense), just open it and hold the title bar. Took me some time to figure out. You cannot easily rename the apps in "All apps", but you can remove them(Which is essentially uninstalling them) from Settings > Applications > Manage, unless they are system apps which need to be manually deleted either via S-OFF + Root explorer(OR something similar) or ADB + Custom recovery(Clockworkmod or Amon Ra).
For setting a custom ringtone, open the music app, select the music > Menu > Set as ringtone.

so no love on the hardware remap for apps?
Oh well i have done a lot of googling and it seems it cant be done (well at least not easily).
My last question is when you launch an app from a folder the folder stays open.. any way to force close or change its behaviour?

for those following this. I found the Tasker app remaps hardware buttons amongst doing amazing other things.
Still no love on closing folders though.

i ended up using tasker to create app widgets to replace the folders...

If you want app widgets, there's also "Desktop Visualizer".
In terms of killing of an app, have you tried "Settings -> apps settings -> development" then there's an option there for "stop apps via long press"?

[Q] New to Android

Hi,
I just got my new SE Xperia Play phone and got it with android Gingerbread on it, I'm not completely familiar with this OS but following information that I've read I rooted my phone and it is working fine, I did this cause I read that by doing this I would be able to remove and add apps to my phone as I became a Super User on the Linux side of it. Now my questions is, How can I do this? I've tried to find like an step by step add and remove apps on my phone with no luck. Also I'd like to get some information on what can I do and what I can't (or shouldn't do) with my super user rights ( i found this but not sure how to add this titanium backup on my phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699).
All help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Btts.

you can delete any apps including system apps by using TITANIUM BACKUP.
once you've installed it and run it click on the backup/restore tab at the top then select whatever app you want to remove (system apps inluded) click that app and there will be an uninstall option.
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU DELETE!
Hope this helps

You have to download Titanium Backup from the market

oh ok I get it, so it is available through the android market.. now that is for the Uninstall stuff part (thanks to both) now in order to get stuff installed into the phone is it there an option for that or can I do it using the linux terminal that is installed on the phone?
Thanks for all the help

OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!

netizenmt said:
OK, I have been where you are, and maybe this VERY brief summary will get you started.
1. Root - you did that.
2. Download and install the CWM for locked bootloaders from this link here.
3. Follow the instructions to power off, then power on and press down on the Volume Down key to enter the recovery mode. Then go to the Backup/Restore menu and backup the phone. This creates a Nandroid, or image of the phone so you can put it back to rooted stock if you mess something up.
4. Download and install Titanium Backup from the App Market. You can use this to uninstall any bloatware, including System files, but use with caution so you won't need to use your Nandroid! There is a safe list thread here that will give you some help in what you can remove.
5. Apps for Android usually come from the Android Market, or another market that hosts Android apps like Amazon AppMarket, etc. So any program you want to install will generally need to come from there. (Yes, I know there are some apps around that some Joe Ubertech wrote, but in general, you will want to get apps from the Market or a Vendor site, like Gameloft or EA.)
6. Use an App2SD program to move as many apps to your SD Card as are able to go. This frees up internal storage so you can run smoothly and have a lot of apps too. I like Droidsail Super App2SD (ROOT) because it lets you select a group of apps at one time to move. Do NOT move to SD any app that is accessed through a widget, or any replacement launcher program.
7. Be aware that Programs marked as System files cannot be moved to SD. However, some of them, like the preinstalled games, GMail, Youtube, etc, are also found in the Market. You can either delete them and reinstall them from the Market, or use a program like Root Explorer to manually move these to a folder on the SD card. Then reboot your phone, and you can reinstall them as user apps and be able to move them to SD as well.
8. Read. Read, read, read, READ everything you can get your hands on here in xda. It has been the best source of info for the Xperia Play.
I hope this helps you get going. Have fun, and if you run into trouble, someone here will usually be able to help you get going again.
Cheers!
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awesome thanks for the information

Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium

Trygon said:
Also, grab KeiranFTW's tweak package in the dev forum. Best thing you could do to your phone.
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here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236

University of Pi said:
here's the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385236
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thanks for the info guys, now I'm working on my other phone the Xperia Arc ^^, if a moderator wants to close this thread is alright
thanks to all

[Solved] Any way to access an apk file immediately after flashing?

I'm not sure if this is possible as ICS has no built in file manager, but is there anywhere I can put an apk file that it would be accessible without one? Specifically I want to be able to open an apk to install a file manager as the first thing I do after flashing a rom, to avoid needing to go through the market.
I thought maybe I could leave it in sdcard/download but it seems like the downloads program is blind to anything in that folder that wasn't officially "downloaded". (I suppose I could upload one to my dropbox and download it via the browser, if there are no viable options). Also made a few stabs at getting the gallery program to show one but it seems to filter out anything that's not a picture or video.
Any ideas for places to stick an apk and get one of the stock programs to let me open it?

maybe email it to yourself?
but you would have to log into the email app to do that
but there isnt really anyway to access the file without a file explorer

Open your favourite rom zip, add your apk to /system/app, save the zip, push that zip to the phone, flash.

Peesashiz said:
maybe email it to yourself?
but you would have to log into the email app to do that
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Yeah in general I'm trying to cut out the step of signing into anything and just restoring my apps from a backup before I need to cancel automatic restore functions (which I do want on and running once I do my own initial run of things).
bk201doesntexist said:
Open your favourite rom zip, add your apk to /system/app, save the zip, push that zip to the phone, flash.
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I'm guessing this comes with the consequence of raising any apk added in this manner to system app level? Not that I distrust the apps I'd have in mind for this to do anything malicious themselves, but is there any danger of opening security holes by elevating apps not designed to be system apps?

What I've done many times is just enabling Air Plane as soon as I can after flashing a ROM. That's way I can install any apk I want.
Hope it helps.

heo_con184 said:
What I've done many times is just enabling Air Plane as soon as I can after flashing a ROM. That's way I can install any apk I want.
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Hmm but then what is your method for getting to that apk? If you do it over wifi that seems to defeat the point, no?
Personally I've found that it works just fine to uncheck the boxes for recovery syncing during the setup process, and then just re-enabling them later in settings. (Alternately, not signing into my google account at all until I've performed a backup). That way even if I end up signing into the market to download a recovery app, it doesn't automatically try to re-download everything else on its own.
I'm starting to think that my dropbox solution will be the cleanest, as it'll be a simple step of opening the browser and downloading a single apk every time at the same link.
I bet that the inclusion of a basic file explorer will be one of those headline items in a future android release. A nice basic functionality that the bloggers can rehash to death before anything actually hits.

Download the file manager apk over wifi and install the APK via download manager.
I do it all the time with Chinese android tablets with no market access.
Or Bluetooth it from another device.
Or just use the market
LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.3 AOSP
Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV

JoeSyr said:
Hmm but then what is your method for getting to that apk? If you do it over wifi that seems to defeat the point, no?
Personally I've found that it works just fine to uncheck the boxes for recovery syncing during the setup process, and then just re-enabling them later in settings. (Alternately, not signing into my google account at all until I've performed a backup). That way even if I end up signing into the market to download a recovery app, it doesn't automatically try to re-download everything else on its own.
I'm starting to think that my dropbox solution will be the cleanest, as it'll be a simple step of opening the browser and downloading a single apk every time at the same link.
I bet that the inclusion of a basic file explorer will be one of those headline items in a future android release. A nice basic functionality that the bloggers can rehash to death before anything actually hits.
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Transfer by USB from my laptop.

Is there a way to do that in which the device will launch the apk you move over? When I copy files over usb, it only ever puts them into whatever directory, and I need a file explorer to interact with them on the phone. And then I'm back to square one, as far as this particular task is concerned (once things are up and running I just use the LAN option in ES file explorer and it's as convenient as could be).

you have the apk in your computer right?
connect the phone to pc, and use adb to install
'adb install <apk_file_name.apk>'

Ah. I haven't used adb since I first unlocked/rooted a few months ago. Guess it probably pays to be a little familiar with those tools; they don't even occur to me when problem solving these days.

JoeSyr said:
Ah. I haven't used adb since I first unlocked/rooted a few months ago. Guess it probably pays to be a little familiar with those tools; they don't even occur to me when problem solving these days.
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mark thread as solved then, if that solved it

Well a completely in-phone solution would still be nice, but I guess if there were any of those they'd have come up by now.
I'll probably use abd if I'm actively working at my computer and a dropbox download otherwise.

tinynoot for glowworm

I just uploaded tiny noot, a very minimal root tool for the NST glowworm. I think it would probably also work for the simple touch, but I've lent mine out and cannot test it to confirm.
I am basically a cobbler here; many thanks to GabrialD, DeanG and the folks with the minimal touch root tools, which this is based on - and of course to mali100 and the CWR team for getting that on the Touch and Glowworm. Everything below is put together with parts from those projects using what I've learned at XDA and from Dean's nook color repartitioning scripts.
They make it possible for someone like me to knock out a package that's a little more convenient to work from than booting noogie and manually copying in files.
I am using the clockwork recovery zip installation mode for copying in the minimal set of files - I'm not trying to support the google apps or the many interesting screen refresh hacks.
I am not including a modified uRamdisk - the stock uRamdisk supports ADB, and you can get root via adb wireless simply by typing su, so I chose to leave well enough alone.
GabrialD has already released a modified uRamdisk for the glowworm (to support root by default as well as the light) but since stock works for my purposes, I'm not using the modified one.
What it does include:
su and busybox
nook color tools in /system, so that nonmarket apps can be installed
adb wireless
ADW launcher
Amazon appstore, so there's at least once source of "easy" apps
Button Savior
Nook Touch Tools
Supermanager and the Busybox updater interface
The install process is three steps. Four if you decide - and you should - to make a backup of your device before you start. (that process is: make the noogie disk. boot from noogie. connect to your computer. dump the NSTG or NST using dd or another disk imaging tool, and is described in more detail with tips for lots of different operating systems at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983 That backup will let you restore your entire device to a known working configuration.
Download mali100's nook touch CWR disk discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994
the file itself is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=806433&d=1323121269
unzip the file and then write the .img file to an sdcard with your disk imaging tool of choice (dd in linux or win32 disk imager are two I use)
Once you've imaged the SD card, copy in these two zipfiles - leave them zipped:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ig75l5b9c24e7q6
http://www.mediafire.com/?2tfitzt97qqfaw7
Apply 1 of 2, then reboot, then
Apply 2 of 2
then remove your SD card and reboot. Although I have not gotten all the commands to run out of a single zipfile, Zydraka noticed, I think correctly, that you can run first the one and then the second without needing to reboot in between. I have done it that way successfully.
I tried putting all commands (copying the files, then setting permissions) into one file and the rooting process aborted in an ugly way. I ultimately needed to reimage the device to restore the oddly hosed /rom partition. After reimaging I was able to root successfully by running the two clockwork scripts back to back without a reboot.
A (very brief) guide to the CWR interface, for those who don't know it:
You will know your card is made correctly when you put it in your device and power on, and you see a clockwork gear nibbling at a nook N. Be patient while CWR loads; you will get to a screen with selectable menu choices.
Navigate up and down with the righthand buttons; navigate back with the lefthand upper button; choose an item or run a command using the raised n button.
Navigate down to "install zip file from sdcard" and hit N
Hit N again to "Choose Zip File from SDcard"
Navigate down to the first zip (labeled 1 of 2) and hit the n button
navigate to "yes - install"
hit the N button
once the first script is done, use the N button to navigate to and apply zip 2 of 2.
navigate back to the reboot menu using the lefthand side buttons. Once you are at the reboot menu item, you can pull the card, then reboot.
I used a 256 meg sdcard I had in the house for making the CWR disk. I find that to be a very convenient size for these disks - big enough to put a few files onto, not so big I wish I hadn't set it up as a CWR disk.

Thanks roustabout! It works great and it was super easy to do! I just got done installing a bunch of apps from Amazon.
Update: I just posted a tutorial with a video for noobs on my blog.
One thing to note, I didn't do the reboot that you mention in between the 1 and 2 packages and everything worked fine. I just installed 2 right after 1 and haven't had any problems.

Thanks for this, rooted last night everything is as it should be, the only issue I've run into is that I can't seem to install the Kindle app. It's not in the amazon market place, I tried backing up the APK from another device via EStrong and transferring the apk to the microSD, and I get a parsing file error. Any tips?

I have not been able to get Tasker to install yet, either.
One thing which sometimes works where other approaches fail (if you have the .apk file) is to ssh into your device (I use quicksshd) and log in as root, then cd to the directory the APK was copied to and issue the command
pm install blah-blah.apk
I have not yet tried that with Tasker, but it may also help with the Kindle app? I did need to do it for one of the apps I use, although I can't recall which one.
Edit: the 3.1 kindle app Zydraka points out works for me as well.
By default, the Kindle app is pretty unusable, very slow page turns. But by using the gesture-enabled screen refresh hack, it's very useable. (I found that using the no gesture version led to lots of apps just ignoring the hack's presence. I think Renate has a way around that, but I haven't read up on it.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22800284#post22800284
I got Tasker to install, but needed first to copy in the Maps jar and xml (to framework and permissions respectively) reboot and install via ssh - it might have worked just to reboot.
Since others may want Tasker available, putting the maps.jar and maps.xml files into the tinynooter is trivial, and I'll probably get to it soon.

I found that the older version of the Kindle app works, version 3.1.0.30. There's a donwload for it at Android Freeware. http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/app/kindle

So, after this, will the glowlight work in all apps? I need to make sure that, moon+ reader and EZpdf will glow in the dark, before I purchase the new nook.
thanks.

The glowlight seems to work in all apps. I'm not clear on how exactly it's turned on and off; it might be possible to have an app that uses a long press on the N button for something else, and that might interfere, but so far it works fine in the launcher, in the Kindle reader, in fbreader, in Newsrob (that I know I've tested.) even if you had an app that was doing something funny with that long press, you ought to be able to turn it on from the settings menu that comes up on a short press.
Once the glowlight is on, it seems to stay on until your screen goes to sleep, regardless of what applications you may also be using.
This is part of why I didn't get into the boot environment at all in this approach - I knew from manual rooting that I didn't have to change out uRamdisk so I decided to leave it all alone.

Thanks for tinynoot! It's working well for me, and glowlight behaves normally.

roustabout said:
I just uploaded tiny noot, a very minimal root tool for the NST glowworm. I think it would probably also work for the simple touch, but I've lent mine out and cannot test it to confirm.
I am basically a cobbler here; many thanks to GabrialD, DeanG and the folks with the minimal touch root tools, which this is based on - and of course to mali100 and the CWR team for getting that on the Touch and Glowworm. Everything below is put together with parts from those projects using what I've learned at XDA and from Dean's nook color repartitioning scripts.
They make it possible for someone like me to knock out a package that's a little more convenient to work from than booting noogie and manually copying in files.
I am using the clockwork recovery zip installation mode for copying in the minimal set of files - I'm not trying to support the google apps or the many interesting screen refresh hacks.
I am not including a modified uRamdisk - the stock uRamdisk supports ADB, and you can get root via adb wireless simply by typing su, so I chose to leave well enough alone.
GabrialD has already released a modified uRamdisk for the glowworm (to support root by default as well as the light) but since stock works for my purposes, I'm not using the modified one.
What it does include:
su and busybox
nook color tools in /system, so that nonmarket apps can be installed
adb wireless
ADW launcher
Amazon appstore, so there's at least once source of "easy" apps
Button Savior
Nook Touch Tools
Supermanager and the Busybox updater interface
The install process is three steps. Four if you decide - and you should - to make a backup of your device before you start. (that process is: make the noogie disk. boot from noogie. connect to your computer. dump the NSTG or NST using dd or another disk imaging tool, and is described in more detail with tips for lots of different operating systems at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142983 That backup will let you restore your entire device to a known working configuration.
Download mali100's nook touch CWR disk discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994
the file itself is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=806433&d=1323121269
unzip the file and then write the .img file to an sdcard with your disk imaging tool of choice (dd in linux or win32 disk imager are two I use)
Once you've imaged the SD card, copy in these two zipfiles - leave them zipped:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ig75l5b9c24e7q6
http://www.mediafire.com/?2tfitzt97qqfaw7
Apply 1 of 2, then reboot, then
Apply 2 of 2
then remove your SD card and reboot. Although I have not gotten all the commands to run out of a single zipfile, Zydraka noticed, I think correctly, that you can run first the one and then the second without needing to reboot in between. I have done it that way successfully.
I tried putting all commands (copying the files, then setting permissions) into one file and the rooting process aborted in an ugly way. I ultimately needed to reimage the device to restore the oddly hosed /rom partition. After reimaging I was able to root successfully by running the two clockwork scripts back to back without a reboot.
A (very brief) guide to the CWR interface, for those who don't know it:
You will know your card is made correctly when you put it in your device and power on, and you see a clockwork gear nibbling at a nook N. Be patient while CWR loads; you will get to a screen with selectable menu choices.
Navigate up and down with the righthand buttons; navigate back with the lefthand upper button; choose an item or run a command using the raised n button.
Navigate down to "install zip file from sdcard" and hit N
Hit N again to "Choose Zip File from SDcard"
Navigate down to the first zip (labeled 1 of 2) and hit the n button
navigate to "yes - install"
hit the N button
once the first script is done, use the N button to navigate to and apply zip 2 of 2.
navigate back to the reboot menu using the lefthand side buttons. Once you are at the reboot menu item, you can pull the card, then reboot.
I used a 256 meg sdcard I had in the house for making the CWR disk. I find that to be a very convenient size for these disks - big enough to put a few files onto, not so big I wish I hadn't set it up as a CWR disk.
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You know, it should be nice if before using the packages other people create, for your own project, you asked them for permission to use them, if not, at least create your own scripts.....
Yes I'm refering to me.... thats not cool.
Anyway, the two step process is not necessary here, thats just for preventing some Gapps database corruption, you edited that code away allready and there are no Gapps installed, so add the code to correct the permissions on the first zip, and everything should work fine, no need to rm dalvik either if you arent modifying framework.jar, etc, it should also speed the first boot time.

I apologize - this was intended to be a quick hack and largely for my own use (as I was testing stuff on both my and my girlfriend's glowworms) but I realized there were a lot of folks trying to root their gw's manually. I thought it worked well enough to share.
I didn't intend to present it as original and if I appeared to I apologize.
Say the word and I will yank the thread outright, and I would have no objection to your asking the mods to do so, either.

roustabout said:
I apologize - this was intended to be a quick hack and largely for my own use (as I was testing stuff on both my and my girlfriend's glowworms) but I realized there were a lot of folks trying to root their gw's manually. I thought it worked well enough to share.
I didn't intend to present it as original and if I appeared to I apologize.
Say the word and I will yank the thread outright, and I would have no objection to your asking the mods to do so, either.
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Don't worry, just stating that before creating a thread with others people work, you should ask them.
Everything is fine, It didn't even pass my mind the idea of reporting it, we are a small niche community, active members must be praised, so dont worry, and I encorage you to keep deving ^^, just that before using other peoples work and starting a thread with it, ask them for permission, no one is gonna deny it and it's the kind way of doing things .

I'm planning to get my hands on a Glow tonight, so over the weekend I should be able to get together a full Nooter for it.

tiny noot - also works for older NST
Just so folks know, I've confirmed that the tinynoot rooter also works on the NST running 1.1.2 firmware.
It will probably work on earlier firmware also, since it is not replacing uRamdisk or framework files.

Are Supermanager and the Busybox Updater supposed to work? Supermanager crashes back to home, and Busybox won't install.

Did you apply both files, and is there an sd card in your device? I just tested the busybox updater and was able to get it to update the installed busybox. It requires that you have an sdcard inserted to work - I remember being puzzled by that the first time I tried using it on a device.
supermanager is crashing. I hadn't tried running it on the device before, and hadn't noticed that.
Looking at logcat, yes, supermanager's crashing in the background quite a bit. It seems to be looking for things which are not available, for instance, a dialer, and erroring out when it can't find them.

roustabout said:
[...] supermanager is crashing. I hadn't tried running it on the device before, and hadn't noticed that.
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Supermanager has always been a problem, at least for me, using TouchNooter. I believe it's intended to provide file manager capability, particularly for installing APKs on uSD. Once I get Market (Play Store) access, reinstalling supermanager fixes the problem. At that point, I don't need it anymore.
I've always had to work around this when rooting my Touch devices. I'd suggest a basic file manager be provided instead for Day 1.

I'm rooted with tinynoot. Recently I've been experiencing excessive battery drain. I'm eliminating apps I'd installed to if that helps. Wondering if anyone has experience with apps that are problematic in that regard? Dropbox? Amazon Appstore? Facebook? 1Mobile Market? I assume nothing that was provided by default with tinynoot. Thanks.

Hi Glowco,
I'd suggest installing task management apps to get a view of what is actually running (not all processes relate to an installed app icon that you can uninstall). I use Advanced Task Manager to view running apps, and Autorun Manager to control what processes start up at boot time.
Ian

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. In the meantime, as an experiment I uninstalled several apps including Amazon Appstore, 1Mobile Market, FB, and Wireless ADB. Good result - my battery charge hasn't decreased in an hour and a half. If I decide I miss them I can try adding them back and use your method.

That's good news!
I'd suggest that Wireless ADB is not to blame, since it does not stay resident once it's closed and in any case does nothing until you click the big red button
Of the others, I have Amazon Marketplace installed and I don't experience any battery issues (I'm Glownooted not Tinynooted but don't think that's relevant in this discussion), but I can't speak for the other two apps. If I were paranoid (and I am! ) I would point at Facebook, since it's purpose is marketing and wants to follow your every move
Ian