Can I ROM + keep stock loaded? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I want to run leaked ics.
I also want to keep stock GB.
Is this possible?
Advisable?
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Back up a nandroid of your gb before you flash ics. Or just use odin one click back to el29.
Your best bet would be to read through these forums and get a real good idea of what your doing so you don't end up with a bricked phone!

You could do a backup of your current GB setup then try an ICS rom out. That way if you dont like it you could just restore back.

Just run whatever you want on ICS, then use sfhub's one-click odin package to safely flash back to GB if you ever need to. Make sure you read up about bricking before flashing ICS.

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[Q] Need help with updating to gingerbread w/root

Hi i currently have stock rom but have it rooted. Can someone provide me with a link to update my phone to the new update w/root or let me know what I need to do? Thanks!
Also I am not sure if I am running ext or rfs can some tell me how to figure that out?
A great place to start learning about modding the Epic are the QBKing77 videos on youtube. Just search for them or check out the links to his videos in most of the OPs in the development section. There are a ton of custom roms to play with right now, as well as the stock EI22 Gingerbread rom that came out OTA.
Thanks as I said though I am already rooted but unsure if its ext 4 or RFS I need help figuring that out and then I think I can just odin it from their.
I wish to stay on stock.
Might I suggest taking a look at the MostlyStockROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339579
You can even go to the "old links" and choose to download the deodexed only first release which is Stock + doedexed + root. Or choose one of the newer releases which has the fixes/features you want.
If you want EI22 Fully Stock then I believe you will need to unroot your existing install and install the OWA. I haven't seen a stock ODIN method but may have missed it.
I see. How do I unroot my phone?
odin back to stock ec05.
ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?
newguy0804 said:
ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?
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Once you odin back to stock ec05, it'll do the OTA update onto ei22. That's how I did my phone. Warning, once you odin back, you'll lose all your app and data.
I'm not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin back to stock remove root then update and then reroot...... thats a lot of work.
Is their a way to do this without un-rooting my phone?
Also can someone shoot me a link to a tutorial on going back to stock?
Also once root is removed I take it I would have to re root it. (this is ridiculous un root, update, reroot)
So what DO i do to re-root it?
newguy0804 said:
Im not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin then update and do it agian...... thats a lot of work.
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you can just download the file and install it using CWM but i'm 0 for 2 with this method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB956i_KEp4
Follow the video that babystewie posted. I've used it twice, both succeeding with no issues what so ever. It will allow you to update to GB with root, but will give you a stock version of GB. If you're interested in rooting GB as well, check the video description and there's some more videos.
There are a lot of mostly stock roms or even just a cwm flashable ei22 in the development section. You'll keep root and won't have to go through using odin so many times.
what do you mean a stock version of gingerbread? also I already have clockwork if that helps does it mean i have ti do anything different if i want to keep root?
There really is no completely stock Gingerbread ROMs because we don't have the tar file for the Odin flash. There are several ROMs in the Development thread (where the ROMs are) that are mostly stock. You can simply flash one of those, and if you want the EI22 modem, you can flash the EC05 to EI22 modem updater found in the stickies in development. I recommend you start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337453

Root question with ICS on the horizon

I am running stock 2.36 with EL29. I would like to be able to tether and install an Internet unthrottle tweak I just saw and keep everything else stock. Can someone suggest the best path to achieve this? I have used the phone stock for about 2-3 months. It does about everything I need in its stock form. I miss these two things from my old Palm Pre.
Also, if I root to achieve this will I have to unroot and remove those tweaks to update to ICS?
crucian4 said:
I am running stock 2.36 with EL29.
Also, if I root to achieve this will I have to unroot and remove those tweaks to update to ICS?
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I am not familiar with this tweak but if its more than just an app then it shouldn't be kept through such an upgrade. If it works with ICS then just redo it. There is often not much harm in trying to upgrade without wiping everything but you can face many problems with the causes of which being unknown just makes it more heartache than its worth.
Since the zerg exploit no longer works your going to be rooting the phone the same way your going to be rooting ICS. ODIN over a rooted tar for EL29. This can be done now in a no data fashion on your stock phone and you wont lose any contacts settings or apps. Once any changes are made to the system, possibly this tweak trying to allow an over there update can be disastrous.
Right now many of us are running leaked ICS roms that were prerooted and flashed via ODIN or custom recovery on EL29 or other gingerbread roms. If you have really messed with the system and even if you havent it would probably be advisable to backup your contacts and data and flash the phone with the intention of wiping everything on it, wether this is ODINing over the data destroying version of the tar or using Calkulin's format all in custom recovery.
With the tweak out of the question rooting your phone now and getting rooted ICS later is as simple as flashing a tar through ODIN. Sfhub has many "One Click" odin's packaged up ready to go in both no data and regular form. Sometimes final builds are leaked before the OTA but at worst you probably wont have to wait more than 48 hours after ICS is released to get the latest stable build from here.

Making sure I don't brick Q's

I know you guys probably get a lot of new users asking...
Recently I acquired a SGS2 with sprint.
It is currently on ICS leak 24.
My understanding is that while on ICS or AOSP:
* never mess with CWM, ROM manger, recovery. I don't ever use nandroid backup's so I'm okay on that zone.
* Make sure the USB cable isn't bad, or phone port.
* Always use the EL29 full restore odin one click(not the preserve data package), then install the CWM recovery and wipe data/use Calkulin's_FORMAT_ALL one or two times. Then, flash the custom ROM of my choice. Then re-flash back using the EL29 Full restore if I wish to try out another ROM or update to a ROM.
I have no issues following those steps to ensure I don't brick my device. Is all correct? Thanks guys!
This thread is your friend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
I wouldn't say never mess with CWM, just know what you are doing in advance.
That thread he posted will tell you everything you need to know, If you have any more questions just ask me I update that thread fairly often just so you know too.
Always Odin to stock before switching Android versions
Use only FB21 or FB28 to flash ICS ROMS
You don't need to go back to EL29 to flash a new Android version. But Odining to stock can allow for a smoother install. But it's pretty pointless to say... Download The Goodness ICS Rom 3.1, and then when an update comes to 3.2, go back to EL29.
xST4T1K said:
That thread he posted will tell you everything you need to know, If you have any more questions just ask me I update that thread fairly often just so you know too.
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Thanks! =) I read most of that but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't do something wrong.
iniz94 said:
Always Odin to stock before switching Android versions
Use only FB21 or FB28 to flash ICS ROMS
You don't need to go back to EL29 to flash a new Android version. But Odining to stock can allow for a smoother install. But it's pretty pointless to say... Download The Goodness ICS Rom 3.1, and then when an update comes to 3.2, go back to EL29.
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It is okay if I flash a ICS ROM from EL29 though right? =) I'm pretty comfortable with blazer 4.1 at the moment though so I see no desire to flash a ICS ROM till source is out and there is an official method.
Yup no problem at all, just make sure your on the stock repacked EL29 kernel and not rogue when you flash and don't restore anything when ICS is installed. Once source is out we should be good on bricks but till then be safe broski. I like ICS too but I'm sticking with blazer too just because battery life.
xST4T1K said:
Yup no problem at all, just make sure your on the stock repacked EL29 kernel and not rogue when you flash and don't restore anything when ICS is installed. Once source is out we should be good on bricks but till then be safe broski. I like ICS too but I'm sticking with blazer too just because battery life.
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Thanks for that, So I can't be on the rogue from autoroot option C? How would I go along the terms of that.
I use the EL29 Restore package, then use the auto-root package to install my recovery. Unless that isn't correct. Can i use the recovery of rogue to flash an AOSP ROM at least? Sorta confusing after being a HTC user for the longest... Touchwiz feels very smooth compared to sense.
Febby said:
Thanks for that, So I can't be on the rogue from autoroot option C? How would I go along the terms of that.
I use the EL29 Restore package, then use the auto-root package to install my recovery. Unless that isn't correct. Can i use the recovery of rogue to flash an AOSP ROM at least? Sorta confusing after being a HTC user for the longest... Touchwiz feels very smooth compared to sense.
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Lol sorry I should have clarified what I meant by rogue. That kernel is fine as it's the repacked el29 kernel, however don't use A rogue kernel such as gunslinger to flash (kernel with OC and UC options) You may not have issues but better safe then sorry. I actually really like tw, between this and aosp it's my favorite. If your going to flash aosp such as aokp or cm9 I recommend following the instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24049602&postcount=3
Late to the party, but if you are going for GB to ICS, I recommend you Odin a stock EL29 first just to be safe. Also, make sure that your GPS is locked before you flash to ICS so that your GPS ability stays.

Safe Flashing

Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
poweroutlet said:
Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
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1. Yes as long ad you get into download mode
2. Yes
3. Yes but usually roms come with a kernel that works already, check OP for each
4. Yes get either mobile Odin from the market or get it on ur PC (best to have both)
5. Yes you have to be rooted to flash anything
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poweroutlet said:
Hi all, I've been reading a lot of threads around here about safely flashing our phone. I'd like to verify somethings before I go around flashing things.
It is my understanding that its ok to go from any rom to any rom using sfhubs odin oneclick methods. Is this correct?
It is also my understanding that I can flash any rom (unless otherwise stated) from CWM recovery safely if I am back to EL26+CWM using ODIN.
I have some confusion about this. Currently I am on a stock EL29 unrooted build, if I want to flash an ICS rom would I flash the EL26+CWM tar via ODIN and then use CWM to wipe and flash ICS? Is it also required that I flash an applicable kernel along with the rom?
Also I have never used odin before. Do I need to install this program from somewhere first before I can flash things?
Do I need to root my existing EL29 setup before I can flash the EL26+CWM tar?
Sorry for the huge number of noob questions, I just don't want to take chances with my phone. I'm an HTC guy and things seem to be done very very differently there. I'm very interested in trying the upcoming date to the Blend ICS "The Goodness" rom.
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The best advice I can give you is to look up qbking77 on youtube. He has step by step how to videos on rooting and flashing your E4GT.
Start here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pWjmKCsoc&feature=plcp
He has a link in the description on how to add CWM
Ill tell ya right now I would not recommend flashing an ICS rom it is soo buggy I hate it! I just installed the tablet one I forget what it is called but nothing but force closes even when ya aint doing anything it will just force close on ya. Stick with gingerbread untill there is a final release for ics trust me. Way to buggy right now!
I must agree with RB!
I would not mess with ICS if you are new to this phone (and even some that are not ). If you really like your phone, I would recommend trying out the many Gingerbread roms for a while. It is a much safer and far more stabile learning platform than ICS.
As far as flashing ICS I would check out one of the official leaked builds before trying out a custom ROM. I've noticed that some people seem to have different problems even though we all have the same phone. The changes from GB to ICS were enough to drive me nuts sometimes, but I've been using the leaked builds with minimal problems for the last few weeks. The newest one is FE10 and is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648045
I have to say I take back what I said I was getting all those force closes but then I did another factory data reset and now it is running smooth and I am LOVING ICS!!! You should check out the Hydra Rom by team Venum it is soo sick! It makes your phone like a tablet!!!
True you can use either Odin or Mobile Odin (and it is best to have both). But I find Mobile Odin much more convenient. I always keep an the EL26+CWM tar and an ICS Tar (Kernals) on my phone at all times. It is much safer to do anything on the EL26 kernal such as wiping, flashing, nanding, and etc. Even if you are on an ICS rom you can Mobile Odin to the EL26 kernal flash whatever you want, and lastly flash back to an ICS kernal and reboot. That is about as safe as you can be. Like the other posters said though try out some GB roms first there are many great developers, and these roms generally have far less risk associated with them. I am currently running Epic Venum Rom and it is great. Happy flashing!
Yea ya see sometimes when people ask for opinions on here I say try it yourself because its different for everyone. My battery life compared to yours and my user experience compared to yours. I am on Codename and have 0 issues and honestly dont even need an upgrade. I could rock this ICS till my next phone.
Hey OP do yourself a favor read yo ass off up in here and please please please follow directions to the "t" and just try out a few roms
rbtrucking said:
I have to say I take back what I said I was getting all those force closes but then I did another factory data reset and now it is running smooth and I am LOVING ICS!!! You should check out the Hydra Rom by team Venum it is soo sick! It makes your phone like a tablet!!!
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LMAO RB. You're really gonna confuse the guy now.
Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
Also if I wanted to, I could go from my blu kuban ICS rom straight to FE10 using the Odin OC safely right?
poweroutlet said:
Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
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Do the whole one click process over again, it's safer that way.
Here is Calk's ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041
He also has a Gingerbread ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
Thanks for the help all. I settled on tFE10_v0.1.0, a tweaked version of the FE10 leak. It's also skinned to look like stock ICS and I'm using it with the ICS launcher instead of TW.
Smooth, stable and good battery life so far. I'm quite happy with it.
poweroutlet said:
Thanks for the help all. I settled on tFE10_v0.1.0, a tweaked version of the FE10 leak. It's also skinned to look like stock ICS and I'm using it with the ICS launcher instead of TW.
Smooth, stable and good battery life so far. I'm quite happy with it.
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+1 for that ROM... Awesome in every way!
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"Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?"
Odin OC back to EL29. It is HIGHLY recommended that you not flash GB kernels on ICS roms, so flashing EL26 from ICS is not ideal. Insofar as rom i was on goodness until just recently, which is great, but recently switched to AOKP build 35, which is AMAZING
poweroutlet said:
Thanks for all the informative responses all. I think I mostly have this down now.
I rooted my stock build with sfhub's odin OC, then used sfhub's autorooting utility to flash EL26+CWM. Got into CWM and wiped everything a few times and then flashed Blu Kuban ICS.
Now that I tried this, if I want to try a different rom should I just Odin OC back to my rooted EL29 build and repeat the process or would it suffice to just use the autorooting utility, flash EL26+CWM and then flash my new rom?
Can anyone recommend me an ICS rom that is fairly similar to a stock ICS experience? It doesn't have to be CM9 or AOKP. I'm just tired of Samsung's cartoony icons and themes. "The goodness" seemed interesting.
Also what is the best Gingerbread rom around here in case I decide to stick to that? Any that are themed like ICS?
Also if I wanted to, I could go from my blu kuban ICS rom straight to FE10 using the Odin OC safely right?
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I would just flash el26+cwm from mobile odin/odin and boot into recovery. Once there just wipe and flash like you did for Blu Kuban. You don't have to go back to GB ROM, just need el26+cwm. As stated above it is unsafe to flash to el26+cwm using ICS recovery, but is safe to Odin/Mobile Odin to it. I always have stockel26cwm.tar, an AOSP kernel, a stock ICS kernel, and whatever ROMs I'm currently using. I also always have Mobile Odin and Root Explorer installed.
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I would definitely look into the HyDrA rom this rom is soo sick I cant even explain it! You need to actually use it to appreciate it. I knew as soon as I saw the review video by qbking I had to have it. Ill post a link for the review.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxP0V-CowTs
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killaphatboy said:
I would just flash el26+cwm from mobile odin/odin and boot into recovery. Once there just wipe and flash like you did for Blu Kuban. You don't have to go back to GB ROM, just need el26+cwm. As stated above it is unsafe to flash to el26+cwm using ICS recovery, but is safe to Odin/Mobile Odin to it. I always have stockel26cwm.tar, an AOSP kernel, a stock ICS kernel, and whatever ROMs I'm currently using. I also always have Mobile Odin and Root Explorer installed.
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Wow you just saved me a whole lot of time. This whole time I was under the impression you had to odin back to Gingerbread rooted, reinstall CWM before flashing another ICS rom. I never knew you just needed the el26 kernal! Thank you! Quick question though what slot do you put the kernal in the PDA?
Here's a direct link to the stock el26+cwm: http://db.tt/0QJkleJR
I believe you use PDA slot. I use Mobile Odin as I'm always at work and never near a computer. I do believe there is a free lite version on these forums somewhere or its $4.99 on Play Store, but it is a huge time saver as I flash a new ROM several times a week at least(currently addicted to HyDrA).
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thanks kill, i was odin OC back to EL29 before each flash, i will adopt your method going forward, i should have realized this a long time ago...
No problem. Just trying to save you some time/effort. One more thing though since I don't think it was ever mentioned. You should always verify the md5 checksum before flashing anything. There are free apps on the Play store to check with and most developers post a checksum by there downloads.
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[Q] Help with a rooted/flashed Galaxy S2

I rooted my Galaxy S2 then rooted Blazers Sexy Can I rom. I did a back up of my stock rom after I rooted it. Now that Sprint/Samsung MAY be releasing stock ICS, I may want to switch over to that. The battery sucks on Blazers rom. Anywho, if I restore to my stock GB backup with root and get the OTA update, am I doing any damage besides losing root? Could my phone be bricked just restoring my backup and updating? Also, if I decide to not do the stock update and keep my root, can I restore back to my stock GB backup then flash a new ICS custom rom with no issues? I keep wondering because I see how if you flash an ICS custom rom, you have to go back to a stock version before you flash another. I am just wondering if my backup is enough.
mapan83 said:
I rooted my Galaxy S2 then rooted Blazers Sexy Can I rom. I did a back up of my stock rom after I rooted it. Now that Sprint/Samsung MAY be releasing stock ICS, I may want to switch over to that. The battery sucks on Blazers rom. Anywho, if I restore to my stock GB backup with root and get the OTA update, am I doing any damage besides losing root? Could my phone be bricked just restoring my backup and updating? Also, if I decide to not do the stock update and keep my root, can I restore back to my stock GB backup then flash a new ICS custom rom with no issues? I keep wondering because I see how if you flash an ICS custom rom, you have to go back to a stock version before you flash another. I am just wondering if my backup is enough.
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if you want to go back to stock el29 i would use sfhubs el29 1 click odin, then restore your backup....
if you want the stock system while keeping root just use the ff18 rooted 1 click as opposed to accepting the ota
if you're just upset about battery life but otherwise like the rom you're on now look into kobridge tweaks, and good practices for battery conservation- i.e. sync manually, set brightness low, etc... these could potentially greatly extend you're battery life

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