Sprint has been offering the HTC Stereo Clip for a little while now, so I went ahead and picked one up. Even though I don't have a HOX or HOS, it is spec'd to work with practically any Bluetooth-enabled audio device, so I figured I might as well post a bit of a review for other potential owners. Initially the compatibility with apt-X piqued my interest, but since nobody seems to know if the GNex supports it, I didn't figure that I would get any better than A2DP streaming quality out of it. Still, the idea of turning any set of normal speakers or headphones into Bluetooth-enabled is pretty awesome, so even if the GNex won't support the full audio quality I expect I will eventually get a device that does.
The unit came in yesterday, so I charged it up and ran it through some basic tests. Here's the notable things I found.
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First of all, this thing is small. It's about the size of a thumb drive and can be easily stored in even the smallest pockets. That also means the battery is small, and it doesn't have much power to output sound, so you should expect to use an external amp if you need it louder.
Down next to the USB port it tells you the max voltage and amperage it is configured to expect; 5V, 1A. This was a big deal for me, since I had a previous Bluetooth audio adapter that I accidentally overloaded with my car charger. Since this accepts 1 amp, it should be compatible with nearly every phone charger currently in existence. I got it to full charge in about an hour after plugging it into a USB port on my computer, and the manual says it should most likely take no more than 2 hours to charge from most USB chargers.
Now based on the configuration of the audio plug, it's obvious HTC only designed this for car stereos with female auxiliary ports, which poses a problem if you want to hook this up to other various speakers and headphones that only have another male 3.5mm plug. Plus, my car doesn't have a dedicated aux port, so instead I use a tape deck adapter, which of course is another male 3.5mm plug. Thankfully, all you need is just a 3.5mm coupler (female to female), which I picked up at my local Radio Shack for about $5.
Does it work? Yes, and beautifully at that. You can also use it while it's charging, so for some systems you can effectively just leave it attached to the charger all the time. Using the coupler I hooked it up to my car, my A/V receiver at home, and even to my headphones. The effective range seems to be limited to about 5 feet, but this is still much cheaper than purchasing brand new Bluetooth-enabled systems for each time you want to wirelessly play your music, especially when 99% of existing Bluetooth systems are terrible quality compared to regular sound systems. I imagine the quality will be better too when I have something that supports apt-X, but for now I can deal with A2DP.
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Sprint has been offering the HTC Stereo Clip for a little while now, so I went ahead and picked one up. Even though I don't have a HOX or HOS, it is spec'd to work with practically any Bluetooth-enabled audio device, so I figured I might as well post a bit of a review for other potential owners. Initially the compatibility with apt-X piqued my interest, but since nobody seems to know if the GNex supports it, I didn't figure that I would get any better than A2DP streaming quality out of it. Still, the idea of turning any set of normal speakers or headphones into Bluetooth-enabled is pretty awesome, so even if the GNex won't support the full audio quality I expect I will eventually get a device that does.
The unit came in yesterday, so I charged it up and ran it through some basic tests. Here's the notable things I found.
First of all, this thing is small. It's about the size of a thumb drive and can be easily stored in even the smallest pockets. That also means the battery is small, and it doesn't have much power to output sound, so you should expect to use an external amp if you need it louder.
Down next to the USB port it tells you the max voltage and amperage it is configured to expect; 5V, 1A. This was a big deal for me, since I had a previous Bluetooth audio adapter that I accidentally overloaded with my car charger. Since this accepts 1 amp, it should be compatible with nearly every phone charger currently in existence. I got it to full charge in about an hour after plugging it into a USB port on my computer, and the manual says it should most likely take no more than 2 hours to charge from most USB chargers.
Now based on the configuration of the audio plug, it's obvious HTC only designed this for car stereos with female auxiliary ports, which poses a problem if you want to hook this up to other various speakers and headphones that only have another male 3.5mm plug. Plus, my car doesn't have a dedicated aux port, so instead I use a tape deck adapter, which of course is another male 3.5mm plug. Thankfully, all you need is just a 3.5mm coupler (female to female), which I picked up at my local Radio Shack for about $5.
Does it work? Yes, and beautifully at that. You can also use it while it's charging, so for some systems you can effectively just leave it attached to the charger all the time. Using the coupler I hooked it up to my car, my A/V receiver at home, and even to my headphones. The effective range seems to be limited to about 5 feet, but this is still much cheaper than purchasing brand new Bluetooth-enabled systems for each time you want to wirelessly play your music, especially when 99% of existing Bluetooth systems are terrible quality compared to regular sound systems. I imagine the quality will be better too when I have something that supports apt-X, but for now I can deal with A2DP.
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Can you tell me where/which Sprint store that you have found this item? I cant seem to find them ANYWHERE.....
Thanks!
Riggy
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Can you tell me where/which Sprint store that you have found this item? I cant seem to find them ANYWHERE.....
Thanks!
Riggy
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I bought it online.
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...tion_box=htc stereo clip&id16=htc stereo clip
thanks for the quick review...i am thinking of picking one of these up for my gs3.
Two questions:
Does it time out to save power?
Does it turn on automatically when it recieves external power?
If so this would make for a perfect semi-permentant install in a car where it will get power as soon as the car starts. so far no other adaptor will do this that I have found. Either they won't accept music while charging, or if they do, they will not auto-power-on once they've timed out.
just got mine in the mail yesterday...
^ it does have a time out feature for power save, not sure about auto turn on when receive external power but it does charge and stream at the same time.
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Two questions:
Does it time out to save power?
Does it turn on automatically when it recieves external power?
If so this would make for a perfect semi-permentant install in a car where it will get power as soon as the car starts. so far no other adaptor will do this that I have found. Either they won't accept music while charging, or if they do, they will not auto-power-on once they've timed out.
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Have you seen the Kensington LiquidAux? Works exactly as you describe: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0011UIX2K
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Have you seen the Kensington LiquidAux? Works exactly as you describe: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0011UIX2K
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Kensington LiquidAux does not have APT-X though.
Hi.
Just ordered one. Trying to find out which bluetooth version it has, as it said 2.1EDR in the specs, but The Verge listed it as 4.0 in their test.
Was the sound quality and volume acceptable when using the cassette adapter??
Hey guys, I've had this stereo clip for about 4 months and it's fantastic. The fact it's wireless, so small, and gives a brilliant quality are my favourite points.
Although the battery is pretty poor, so now i've hooked it up to my cigarette lighter which solves that problem.
Now though, my calls are not distributed through the stereo clip to my cars speakers. Where-as a couple of months ago they were. Is this something that can be turned on/off or restored? It was super clear through the car speakers but now voice comes through the phones speaker and the sound is pretty crap when I'm driving to be honest.
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Hello everyone,
Very happy with my EVO 4G and was looking for an adapter that will allow me to hook up a 3.5mm and charging cables in the car. I know I can do that by just plugging the audio cable on top and the charging cable in the bottom but I am looking for a more clean solution that will allow me to plug both cables at the bottom.
I have the 3 in 1 Adapter pictured below from my previous HTC windows phone but the end that connects to the phone is ExtUSB. If you guys know an adapter that goes from Micro USB to ExtUSB that will help as well. I am assuming that this would allow me to use the current adapter I have.
Thank you in advance for your help!!
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I am looking for the same thing. I had an adapter for my Hero that would plug into the bottom USB and had power and headphone out on it.
I am trying to find something similiar for the Evo.
It would be interesting to see if the newer 3.5mm phones are even ready for this function, as there is typically a second set of pins dedicated to this function
Doing some additional research and found this adapter for sale:
http://www.ecrater.com/p/8124399/micro-usb-plug-for-htc-s900
Don't know if it will work with the EVO.
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Doing some additional research and found this adapter for sale:
http://www.ecrater.com/p/8124399/micro-usb-plug-for-htc-s900
Don't know if it will work with the EVO.
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The Touch Pro was the phone I used to have (on AT&T called the Fuze)...And it used ExtUSB. So no, this adapter won't work as it's doing the same thing the one the OP showed is doing.
Frankly I think it's funny that you guys want a single cable when for years the average joe has been pushing the manufacturers to have standard 3.5mm cables. I don't think that these phones have the capability to push their audio over the standard microUSB connector (ExtUSB is 11 pins, 5 of which are custom for HTC dedicated to audio).
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The Touch Pro was the phone I used to have (on AT&T called the Fuze)...And it used ExtUSB. So no, this adapter won't work as it's doing the same thing the one the OP showed is doing.
Frankly I think it's funny that you guys want a single cable when for years the average joe has been pushing the manufacturers to have standard 3.5mm cables. I don't think that these phones have the capability to push their audio over the standard microUSB connector (ExtUSB is 11 pins, 5 of which are custom for HTC dedicated to audio).
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I want both, I want the single cable because it's easier (and safer, less risk of breaking the phone) to have one cable plugged in for everything in the car instead of having to plug/unplug something to the and bottom every time you get in/out of the car. I had one on my vogue(because it had no 3.5mm jack) and it was very nice to just be able to flick it out with my thumbnail when i went to get out.
The one for my vogue had 4 ports, data usb, htc usb headset, 3.5mm, 2,5mm. I would try it in my vogue but it's got a funky squareish mini usb plug on it so my converter doesn't work.
I've been looking for the same thing as the threadstarter!
I have a really clean set up in my car with a clean wired-in dash mount and a single extUSB cable with a nice right-angle keeping the cable tucked away and nearly out if site. It charges my phone plays audio through an extra input on my stereo deck (AUX input on rear of deck).
I was pretty frustrated that HTC moved to Micro USB over extUSB since it breaks what has been working for my since i've had the HTC Touch and Hero. Now I have to go and change everything.
If a Micro USB audio/charger adapter EVER COMES OUT I'll connect it and pair it with this to keep my single cable setup working awesomely:
http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-mcbl-ext-xxg.html
Does anybody know if the Micro USB implementation on the EVO has audio wired in to it? I think the Nexus one's does.
Has anyone been able to confirm or deny whether you can get audio out of the micro USB port? What I really want probably isn't possible, but I want to be able to plug a regular micro USB cable from my phone to a USB port that will be flush mounted on my console, and under the console would be an adapter to split audio and power. I do appreciate the audio jack on the top, but it would make for a much cleaner install in the car if you could run a single cable. If no one has even tried it yet, I may buy the cables and adapters and see what happens. They're not that expensive..
Speaking of clean installs in the car.. if you haven't heard of them, check out kuda mounts. I just ordered one, and as soon as I get it installed, I'll post some pics. They're kind of expensive, but if you don't like the mounts with a suction cup on the windshield, or the ones that clip onto the A/C vents, the kuda mounts really are the best option..assuming they make one for your car.
I just ordered a mini usb version from deal extreme, I'll tear it down and wire it into micro usb and see what I can get out of the EVO (probably be a week or so before I get my hardware)
I found micro usb head sets on ebay that say they work on Evo, so that's good enough for me. I'm wondering if I could plug a regular data cable into this: http://www.meritline.com/female-miniusb-female-usb-adapter-472---p-30323.aspx (if I can find a place that has them in stock) and then plug my old touch pro adapter into that. I'm not too optimistic about it working, but it would be cool if it did.
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I found micro usb head sets on ebay that say they work on Evo, so that's good enough for me. I'm wondering if I could plug a regular data cable into this: http://www.meritline.com/female-miniusb-female-usb-adapter-472---p-30323.aspx (if I can find a place that has them in stock) and then plug my old touch pro adapter into that. I'm not too optimistic about it working, but it would be cool if it did.
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A lot of those converters are power only, be weary.
Has any one figured this out yet? I just ditched my iphone 3g and returned the 4 for an EVO. I had apples composite cables with USB on it so I could put in the dock connector then i have a custom cig lighter with USB on accessory power behind the dash and the red/white leads going into the back of my deck for left and right audio. Worked flawlessly on both iphones. Looking for a way to have the USB on the EVO do the same thing. If anyone finds a cord or a slew of adapter I can throw behind my radio, let me know lol.
I miss streaming internet radio in my car (DI.FM is the ****). *For now I'm using my old iPhone 3G(no service) plugged into my existing setup and tethered to my EVO's rooted wifi hotspot to stream the radio. I know its janky, but only way I know atm.
This is not what most of you guys are after at all, but I'll put it out there nonetheless because of how well it's worked for me, so it's an alternative worth considering. I've been using this Kensington adapter/doohickey for a while, at first with my iPod touch ('till I got tired of not being able to skip songs w/the remote, iOS bug), then w/my SE feature phone, and now w/my EVO.
It's called the Kensington LiquidAux, it's basically just a small Bluetooth adapter, the size of a USB charger (in fact it IS a USB charger, more on that in a bit), that goes into your cig lighter, and it has a standard 3.5mm cable that you plug into your AuxIn on your deck. As you may have guessed, audio is piped in from your phone to your stereo over Bluetooth via the adapter, it doubles as a handsfree kit, and when you want to charge your phone there's also a USB port for charging devices right from the LiquidAux (port's on the bottom), quite clever.
As long as you don't mind using BT to pipe audio into your aux in (sounds pretty clear, FWIW), this would still allow you to use just one cable (for charging), or none at all if you don't need to charge at the time. I play music on my car w/this all the time and frankly it's not much of a battery drain so I only use it to charge the phone when I've been using WiFi tethering mid-day, or when I'll be using the GPS, or w/e.
I attached the wireless remote it comes with to my steering wheel but not w/the included strap, altho it works quite well (but doesn't look very slick). I tucked it into a nook on the left hand side of my Civic's steering wheel with double sided tape (it's not visible at all, almost looks stock).
The mic isn't the greatest but I didn't buy it to use it as a handsfree device primarily, it's fine for a quick "where are you" or w/e call, not great for longer conversations (my phone's own mic/speaker actually works better in that case). I think I've seen a couple of bad reviews for it online, mostly from iPhone/iPod users that were bugged they couldn't skip tracks (it's a fault of iOS' own Bluetooth profiles, not the device) or complaints about static (if you turn UP your phone's volume and you turn DOWN the car stereo's volume there's no static and bass response, etc remains strong).
It seems to be harder to find online right now, I bought it about a year ago for like $40, I still see it at CompUSA all the time (yes CompUSA re-opened in certain locations). I'd hate to think that Kensington stopped making the standard Bluetooth/smartphone version in lieu of the iPhone/iPod specific version, ugh.
What I love most about the setup is that I just get in the car, hit Play, and I'm good to go... Same as any car w/built-in Bluetooth. I don't even have to take the phone out of my pocket. I used to have a dock and whatnot (for my iPod touch) but I got WAY tired of messing w/all that every time I got in the car, even the simple act of hooking up the 3.5mm cable got tiresome. Someone else out there has got to be making an equivalent BT adapter...
I finally just bought a 3.5mm to RCA adapter for my EVO so I could run the two red/white leads to the back of my radio. (I know I know, no aux port on my GM radio even in the back, but I have an adapter that was cheap that gives me RCA jacks on the back tucked away behind the dash.) Now I got my old iPhone out of the equation, but require the USB car charger + 3.5mm cord to charge and play. I will deal with that for now I guess.
Impulses said:
This is not what most of you guys are after at all, but I'll put it out there nonetheless because of how well it's worked for me, so it's an alternative worth considering. I've been using this Kensington adapter/doohickey for a while, at first with my iPod touch ('till I got tired of not being able to skip songs w/the remote, iOS bug), then w/my SE feature phone, and now w/my EVO.
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Hey, thanks for the suggestion. I had never seen that before now, and it does look great. I google'd the part number (K33428US) and found a few places that have them in stock. I think I'll scrap my previous plans and buy one of these..
If you find something you like that uses mini-USB, you could use this adapter to bridge it to the Evo's micro-USB.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1279685488&sr=8-1
I have one so I can use my wife's Hero charger when she's not using it, cuts down on the plug clutter. It was under $2 when we ordered it.
Has anyone tried a bluetooth to stereo adapter for their car? I was looking at maybe the Blackberry one.
Thats not the thing that you need. What are you looking to do? Stream music via bluetooth to a fm radio? I found a piece from Amazon that I just ordered. I am not sure if it is going to work or not but I will let you know when it arrives.
That is what I want to do. Stream bluetooth to my stock stereo that only had a 2.5mm aux jack.
I have a Samsung HM3500 BT headset. It is A2DP via an included headphone adapter. You plug your normal headphones into the jack on the adapter that plugs into the microUSB on the headset. You could get a patch cable and connect the headset adapter to your vehicle stereo.
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Has anyone tried a bluetooth to stereo adapter for their car? I was looking at maybe the Blackberry one.
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I'm using that Blackberry unit. It works great. Now I need to get a power filter and maybe a headphone amp for it, I have to turn the radio up a lot for some things like audiobooks, and it causes the radio to pick up engine noise.. pfftttt.. I do have a ground loop isolator, but the 12V in a prius is generated from an inverter so it is a little noisy..
betasp said:
Has anyone tried a bluetooth to stereo adapter for their car?
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I love my Jabra Cruiser!!!
Do a google search (XDA won't let me post links yet) and you can find this for less than $50 delivered. I paid $99.00 for mine, but have no regrets.
All of the phones audio are relayed to an FM station on the car stereo (never been a fan of FM transmitters, but this one rocks). I mostly listen to tech podcast, and pandora going down the road.
Fm transmitters suck balls especially if you live in heavily populated areas. For mine to work I had to disconnect my antenna for it to work somewhat. I listen to tech podcasts on commute everyday so I decided to install a newer stereo with a 3.5mm jack instead. $100 shipped from crutchfield with all the hardware and special instructions for my vehicle. It was worth every penny it also has HD programing which I am starting to like.
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badaphooko01 said:
Fm transmitters suck balls especially if you live in heavily populated areas. For mine to work I had to disconnect my antenna for it to work somewhat. I listen to tech podcasts on commute everyday so I decided to install a newer stereo with a 3.5mm jack instead. $100 shipped from crutchfield with all the hardware and special instructions for my vehicle. It was worth every penny it also has HD programing which I am starting to like.
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No antenna for me why listen to any market that is just going to give me ad's plus spend 100 naw
Antenna removed works great for me no problems and the quality is great
That Samsung Modus 3500 looks very cool. It's a more functional [edit: because it can do both phone calls and music streaming] bluetooth adapter than the Blackberry one.
Now I just have to fix the 3.5mm aux in jack on my factory car stereo!
I have been using the Kensington LiquidAux for a few months with my vibrant. It works great for streaming audio. I found it for ~$25 in november from geeks.com.
I have had good luck with the Blubridge mini-jack Rx, bought from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Soundfly-Bluetooth-Transmitter-BlackBerry-supported/dp/B001DDE4VY
It has everything for all situations.. I own one an love it. It even has cable line in for guests and and cable line out for those of you with aux jacks in your cars. Come with microphone and remote control. Can accept SD cards for music and usb sticks i think, never tried it. Its a true no wire solution (unless you want to use the aux for better audio than FM of course).
I've had the Scosche BTAXS for a few months, and I LOVE it. If your stereo has an aux jack on the front of it, then this is perfect. It is easy to use, and the microphone is excellent. From what people have told me, no one can tell I'm speaking on a speakerphone when I'm using it, and the audio quality for music is perfect. It's a bit pricey, but it was definitely worth the cost for me.
http://www.buy.com/prod/scosche-bta...s-bluetooth-audio-in/q/loc/111/214551809.html
I got a JVC car stereo with bluetooth for 150 canadian about a year ago (so it is probably cheaper now \ cheaper in the states too). It was about the same price as add-on options like the parrots and such.
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A couple years ago my In-law gave me a Motorola T-505 Bluetooth car speakerphone. He gave it to me because He nor His wife ever knew how to use it.
I love this thing. The quality is great, and the internal speaker sounds great by itself. The cool thing is you can press a button to transmit to the FM radio. Then you can have an phone conversation as loud/soft as you prefer. Also, for those of you who listen to music on your phone or ipod touch, you can sync it bluetooth then play it through the car stereo. My In-law was mad because he didnt know it would do that.
Sometimes you will have some static on the channel that you are using, but you can press a button to find another station.
You can buy these for about 45 bucks.
Just my .02
I also use the sosche btaxs. I love it. Works great. I also use it at home sometimes to get bluetooth signal to my receiver. Got it from amazon for around 60 bucks
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A couple years ago my In-law gave me a Motorola T-505 Bluetooth car speakerphone. He gave it to me because He nor His wife ever knew how to use it.
I love this thing. The quality is great, and the internal speaker sounds great by itself. The cool thing is you can press a button to transmit to the FM radio. Then you can have an phone conversation as loud/soft as you prefer. Also, for those of you who listen to music on your phone or ipod touch, you can sync it bluetooth then play it through the car stereo. My In-law was mad because he didnt know it would do that.
Sometimes you will have some static on the channel that you are using, but you can press a button to find another station.
You can buy these for about 45 bucks.
Just my .02
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I tried one of these, borrowed from a friend, it did indeed exceed my expectations as I'm not usually a fan of FM Modulators. However, if you're willing to take your dash apart and do some installation, something like this:
Audiovox FM100A
works pretty good. It only has two channels to choose from, but it isolates from the antenna. Just run a 3.5mm to RCA adapter and plug in. Doesn't help for phone calls and such like the bluetooth but is good for long rides or dense areas where it's hard to find an unused channel for the traditional FM Modulators.
i have this and it works good
http://www.amazon.com/Miccus-BluBridge-mini-jack-Rx-Bluetooth/dp/B0038MA11U/ref=pd_sim_cps_9
Those are all great choices, but keep in mind that if you're on a 2.2 rom you will have severe quality loss when streaming over bluetooth (A2DP). For some reason, the outgoing bitrate is reduced (despite your audio file's quality) and higher frequencies such as Cymbals, guitars, etc distort heavily.
I think some of the developers are working on a fix though. I just thought I would give a heads up about that. Keep the great product ideas coming!!!
- Mat
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Mattymat said:
Those are all great choices, but keep in mind that if you're on a 2.2 rom you will have severe quality loss when streaming over bluetooth (A2DP). For some reason, the outgoing bitrate is reduced (despite your audio file's quality) and higher frequencies such as Cymbals, guitars, etc distort heavily.
I think some of the developers are working on a fix though. I just thought I would give a heads up about that. Keep the great product ideas coming!!!
- Mat
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That is the setup I have been using for about 2 years now with my black Berry then my touch pro2 and now with my vibrant and it works great, you just need to power the audio gateway with a power inverter that plugs into your cigg power outlet. If you don't use the inverter you will get noise from the cars electrical. Ill post pics of my setup later I am running it on my scion Xb and I love it!
To address what mattymat said it is true if your running 2.2 builds you will have quality loss and intermittent audio cut outs when reviving texts emails or some times just randomly. All in all it still works good and is cheaper in the long run, instead of having to buy replacement auxiliary cables because they stop working from wear. I have been using the same cable for 2 years now since I don't have to keep moving it or unplugging it from the phone or the auxiliary Jack.
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I want to make the beast (aka note) the centre of entertainment/info in my car.
The problem: My car has no aux input.
Solution: FM Transmitter.
Now I tried a few cheapo fm transmitters, and they all had horrible sound connection. The transmission was fine but something was wrong. I pretty much gave up on this idea until I tried my brother's fm transmitter. It was crystal, however it had long cables which dangled over the driver -not ideal. Also, his one was from a good company and cost $120 -yikes.
Anyways, just the other day I saw my friends set-up. All he had was this:
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Which can be bought off ebay for ~$15, or even cheaper from other sources.
It is the perfect companion, since the rigid arm holds the phone just firm enough. It cleanly connects to fm. And charges it simultaneously.
Here's one for example: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FM-Trans...Accessories&hash=item20c69cb619#ht_3654wt_905
After looking for it for many hours, I can't find a suitable one for androids.
For once, I am jelly over Apple's monopoly of its proprietary connector.
Any good solutions you guys know of?
Why would you bother, just buy radio with aux and a stand.
dawids2k8 said:
Why would you bother, just buy radio with aux and a stand.
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Wow, this was your first post on xda, I'm honored.
The thing is, I'm not planning on keeping this car for too many years... so a new head-unit will be a little pointless and expensive. Another thing, there is a separate display unit which pairs with the headunit...so removing it will stuff that up (which is handy for quick time and temperature).
It plays CD's but I don't have any cd's...they're all digital media.
I know I'm not the only one with an Android phone who has this problem, so a solution is out there.
Anyways, I found these solutions on ebay:
1) Bought, tested, its useless. Cables float everywhere. Costs ~$5.
Picture: http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab314/youkeshu/youkeshu-7/AA404_5-ALL.jpg
2)Then I found this one, costs ~$11, also suffers from the same noise distortion. Again cables galore!
Picture: http://cdn1.sellerimage.com/cdn2/120802/9e/78/f4/fmt-uni023_1_cc.jpg
3) I found this. Its just like the first crappy one. This one I haven't bought and tested, it may actually work well. But again cables galore!
Picture: http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab238/ebay510/home and garden/CBA00031-1.jpg
4) Okay I found this a working solution. The seller contacted me said it doesn't have the noise problem like the other options and backs it up with a full refund. Sad part is it costs ~$45...and what makes it worse is that the cables are still hanging about but at least not as much as the solutions prior to this.
Picture: http://gomadic.us/imgs-prod/fmt/samsung-galaxy-2-car-auto-charger-fm-transmitter.jpg
I finally found a (2yo?) thread in Google where they were discussing the same thing for the original Droid.
Anyways, I found a link to it on Amazon but it was discontinued.
Luckily enough, it was "related" to another product which led me to find this:
http://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Flex...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339419456&sr=1-39
Same as the iPhone dock, only costs double the price. Instead of Apple connector, its a microUSB.
edit:
Hold on, found this. Same product (moreless) but $18
http://www.amazon.com/Accessory-Pow...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339419702&sr=1-19
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Okay now its pouring in, found an even cheaper one ($13) lol.
http://www.amazon.com/GSI-Dock-Moun...-Smartphones/dp/B004006L7W/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2
Okay, so there was more to this story than I thought. Wondering how I couldn't find any in the sea of thousands of other (mostly iphone) fm transmitters.
Anyways, back on ebay and finally found this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17083475...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_3398wt_1270
Same as the other ones (~$20) but ships Internationally so anyone can get a hold of it.
It looks to be too small to fit the beast, and the seller hasn't responded back to my message.
But another seller has.
And no, the clamps maximum width is 80mm. We need at least 83mm, or ~90mm (comfortably) to clamp the note. But I have good news from the seller:
"But we will list another item which will fit for your Samsung NOTE,
Please come back to our shop 10 days later,or I can notice you when we list the item."
"Ok,I will let you know when we get new model.
Please don't worry,we have professional Technician?"
I'll keep this thread updated once I get my hands on it.
(ps I broke my windshield mount the other day, so hopefully 2-angry-birds-1-stone)
just to let u know, transmitters/holders that plugs into the cigarette lighter last a week max.
once the rubber that that goes into the cigarette light wears out, its all over, it wont stay up.
werks said:
just to let u know, transmitters/holders that plugs into the cigarette lighter last a week max.
once the rubber that that goes into the cigarette light wears out, its all over, it wont stay up.
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Thanks for the input.
I'm going to try anyway and give a review. It shouldn't cost much $15-$30 so the burden wouldn't be great.
And if it does fall apart, I'm planning on modifying it so it becomes a windshield mount.
That way I can have eyes on the road, and glanceable navigation... while having music from car speakers and hands-free phone function. The Ultimate Road Warrior! xD
this is what i would do if i werent to invest in a head unit.
www.firesport.com.au, buy a 2nd hand amp for cheap.
connect the amp to speakers.
connect the note directly to amp via cheapo 3.5mm to aux cable.
sound quality will be 10x better than transmitter lol.
migrate amp to next car
werks said:
this is what i would do if i werent to invest in a head unit.
www.firesport.com.au, buy a 2nd hand amp for cheap.
connect the amp to speakers.
connect the note directly to amp via cheapo 3.5mm to aux cable.
sound quality will be 10x better than transmitter lol.
migrate amp to next car
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Thanks.
Of course the advantage of the ebay item is that its too easy to setup and can work in literally all cars. And the unit is still purposeful even if the fm isn't transmitting (ie phone holder + charger).
And you will definitely get x10 better sound via a wired solution.
I'm tempted to try both methods, not much to lose.
For now I just have to wait and see the item description when its up and report back.
The problem is the head unit in some cars, such as mine, are built in and cannot actually be changed our it's a big job. I was still using my Nokia N8 for music duties untill last week as it has a transmitter built in, but I've just gotten a Belkin from Amazon and it's superb. Still has to be plugged into the cigarette lighter but I don't mind that.
FlamingGoat said:
The problem is the head unit in some cars, such as mine, are built in and cannot actually be changed our it's a big job. I was still using my Nokia N8 for music duties untill last week as it has a transmitter built in, but I've just gotten a Belkin from Amazon and it's superb. Still has to be plugged into the cigarette lighter but I don't mind that.
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If you're into a bit of soldering, I have successfully added aux into older cassette deck stereos and my DAB stereo clock radio.
Basically, you open up the head unit/radio, google the chip numbers, find a datasheet. Only one of them will be some kind of mixer/preamp/processing chip. Find the pins that are the input L/R and ground. Then solder a 3.5mm stereo lead in. Close it up, plug in your phone, hey presto, AUX in! And better than any FM transmitter.
On the cassette radio, I just wired in to the cassette audio input and disconnected the tape motors. On my clock radio, I added a 2 pole 2 way switch to toggle between the tuner input and my phone. Later I'll add a bluetooth input to get rid of the slight noise hum when my phone is charging.
I bought one,but broken one.
china2834 said:
I bought one,but broken one.
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Which one?
Can you link it for us.
I got a response from another seller, and one from local. They won't be getting it.
Its been 6 days since I received the email from one seller who said they will get NOTE compatible models (hopefully 90mm wide, so NOTE with case can also fit).
So there's another 4 days until he will respond back to me with the link, and then probably a week or two until I can test it.
Getting excited!
I know you said you wouldnt be keeping this car long but imho you would be much better served changing your head unit to one with bluetooth. You can find used ones in great condition shipped on ebay for$100. Installation time is under an hour. Trust me its worth it. My head (eclipse cd5030) automatically connects to my phone as soon as i start the car. No wires, just press play. And also, it has a usb plug for charging it.
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That's a good idea.
My options seem to be:
-FM transmitter/dock
-Change head unit for Bluetooth (break the overhead display and car cpu though)
-Change head unit for AUX in (break the overhead display and car cpu though)
-Install a low-powered/cheap amplifier with an AUX in.
Here's the inside of my car (though not so new, heh):
The head unit (ie CD slot and music controls) is located in the middle of the centre-console.
The actual display for it is displayed higher up on the centre-console.
The display is also wired into the car, if the engine runs out of power for a second, it locks and needs the password. Same thing if I jump start someone.
If I can install a new head-unit without stuffing up the relay going between the display and car cpu, I'd be all set... I wished I was more experienced in this field
Anyways, I've already decided on my next car, so I better start saving now:
I may be wrong buddy but i believe that your stock equipment is set up for an optional CD changer from the factory so there will be an option for an auxiliary input..
What you need to do is call an aftermarket car audio supplier and ask about a 3rd party wiring loom, more than likely they will have a plug in solution for it..
bazrippa said:
I may be wrong buddy but i believe that your stock equipment is set up for an optional CD changer from the factory so there will be an option for an auxiliary input..
What you need to do is call an aftermarket car audio supplier and ask about a 3rd party wiring loom, more than likely they will have a plug in solution for it..
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I agree with that,
Kangal,
Most of the car stereos have port to get AUX out behind. An audio shop can use this to get a 3.5 mm female port
A new quality brand like pioneer car stereo with aux on the front is about $45 NZ these days. Problem solved. And you never know your stereo may have line in in the back you could use.
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I have the same problem as you.
My solution requires the following equipment :
1. Jabra SB600 car hands free
2. Original Samsung car dock for Note.
You basically pair your Note with Jabra via bluetooth and the Jabra transmits the audio via FM to your car radio. Simple, clean, no wire solution. Music and calls play via your car speakers and the Jabra's DSP does a fantastic job to cut out ambient noise in a moving car.
The sound quality is decent. Probably not the very best, but bearable. And more importantly, it gets the task done without any extra wires and stuff. Consider it a trade-off between ripping out / modding your car stereo and making no changes at all.
Though the Jabra's price may be a bit steep, it is a better bet if you consider it against replacing your stereo or spending the time (and taking the risk) on modding it.
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I'm assuming that not a whole lot of people here are really into cars. I am really into modding my car and one aspect of that is audio. I love car audio and have a moderately nice system in my car. I can say that if you're looking for a good way to integrate your phone as your main source of media, then perhaps a new head unit would be a great upgrade for both your media and for your car.
Some people may be on a tight budget, and if so then the previously mentioned solutions may be the only options viable to you, but if you are willing to branch out and see what you can do with your ICE (in car entertainment), then you may find something that you might want to invest in.
So what are the options? You can use a wired fm transmitter, and as people have mentioned, you're dealing with wires and such. You also have wireless fm transmitters, which eliminates your wiring, and your results don't stray far from the wired transmitters in terms of sound quality. If you're willing to upgrade your headunit, then you have two options, single dins which is the base tier headunit. It has most, if not all, of the features your stock headunit has, and a few extras. If it is equipped with bluetooth, you can send/make calls from the headunit, but most single dins don't solve your audio needs in this way. What you want to look for is if it equipped with USB, so you can connect your phone via USB and play your music that way. Yes it does involve wiring, but there have been many ways to tie in a nice docking station for your phone to really make it appealing to many users. Double dins are almost always touchscreen type headunits and are a great way to upgrade your system. They have many more features that single dins will not have, such as GPS, movie viewing, etc. These types of headunits will follow single dins in that you will be wiring your phone via USB to source your music. I think there may be some double dins that are capable of bluetooth audio but I am not totally sure as mine does not have that feature as a 2011 model from Alpine.
W W W[dot]thebizzy[dot]com/technical_pages/thebizzy/audio/ipod2.jpg
Here is an example of how many users like to mount their phones/ipods/etc.
I will say that the benefit of a wired connection over a fm transmitted connection is that the sound quality is so much better. Music is much more crisp and clean with none of that distortion. Granted your overall sound quality will be determined by the quality of your speakers, but the differences from a USB connection and an fm transmitted connection are really noticeable.
So think about what your budget is and what you really want in your car audio system/integration. I went with a double din because the features are just spectacular. I do want to note though, that a headunit does not make your car system sound better, you need to upgrade your speakers, amps, subwoofers, etc. The main purpose for a new headunit is features. For me, I went with the double din because of benefits such as GPS, bluetooth (syncs my entire phonebook so I can just search for people whom I need to contact, shows recent call logs, auto answering for incoming calls), better interface when selecting music (it can utilize the entire interface of the ipod giving me access to movies, artists, playlists, genres, etc.), and overall ease of use.
So to conclude I'd recommend you find out what you want, and what your budget is, and start a project because my daily commute is worlds better than what it used to be because I made my upgrade happen. If you have any questions about ICE then feel free to ask.
Yesterday I installed my new CraigsDocks dock for my AT&T Galaxy S3.
I give it two :good: :good: up.
I created a DIY USB-OTG with power cable.
So the phone gets dropped into the dock.
It goes into dock mode automatically.
This USB-OTG cable bypasses the internal crappy DAC and sends digital audio out to my Behringer UCA202 DAC.
Which then sends the converted analog signal to my car stereo.
Here's my review/how-to on the whole DAC to Car Stereo thing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2033527
The dock is much smaller in profile than my iBOLT dock. And also easier to put the phone in and remove it from the dock.
It's also more heavy duty and looks pretty good.
My DIY cable of course, detracts from the looks. But it's not too bad.
The dock is very sturdy. I can easily put the phone in one handed. It just slides right into the USB-OTG connector.
Youtube video of my dock in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rda6Vsd9Wc&feature=youtu.be
MFG's info & ordering page for CraigsDocks:
http://www.craigsdocks.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-car-dock/
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I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it sounds like according to the MFGR, that the supplied MicroUSB power/media cable that comes with the dock is actually USB-OTG capable. Either as-is, or with a small DIY mod. I didn't understand exactly.
I'm still incredibly happy with this dock. I have yet to need both hands to insert my phone. True one-handed connect in and remove phone action! :good:
Another benefit to this dock is that because it's adjustable, it will probably work for any similar sized phone with MicroUSB on the bottom. I wouldn't even be surprised if a NOTE II works in this dock. Or a GSIII with extended (fatter) battery + large case.
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Cz Eddie,
I am surprised at how little action this thread has received.
I wish the CraigsDock was around before the Ibolt. Hmmm, maybe it was.
All my past car docks were this type of one handed in/out deal and I miss it.
I will probably get one soon.
When I did the analog out of micro usb tests months ago, I went as far as having my own hand made cable wired to output sound but got terrible machine/cpu noise and gargle if I had both power and audio in the car. I tested it in the house with use wall power...same thing. I tested with a ground loop isolator...worse.
So, right now I have the Ibolt and a custom plug coming out of it that plugs into the headphone jack...works fine actually. But it 2 hands and 4 steps to plug it all in...Vs 1 hand, 1 step via your brilliant craigsdock setup. Love it.
Have you shared your DIY wiring scheme for the CraigsDock + DAC?
If yes, can you point me to it. (I have read your dac thread...I don't remember seeing it there)
Cheers
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When I did the analog out of micro usb tests months ago, I went as far as having my own hand made cable wired to output sound but got terrible machine/cpu noise and gargle if I had both power and audio in the car. I tested it in the house with use wall power...same thing. I tested with a ground loop isolator...worse.
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The reason I went with USB-DAC was because of the higher quality audio. But mostly because analog USB just had bits of low level noise that annoyed me.
themadproducer said:
So, right now I have the Ibolt and a custom plug coming out of it that plugs into the headphone jack...works fine actually. But it 2 hands and 4 steps to plug it all in...Vs 1 hand, 1 step via your brilliant craigsdock setup. Love it.
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Yep, the Craigsdock is true one-handed operation. You have to mess with the dock settings to get it perfect. It took me about 5-10 minutes, but the phone smoothly slips right into the USB connector and is nice and stable.
themadproducer said:
Have you shared your DIY wiring scheme for the CraigsDock + DAC?
If yes, can you point me to it. (I have read your dac thread...I don't remember seeing it there)
Cheers
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Well, it's either in this thread or the USB-DAC thread?
I just bought a very short USB-OTG connector that had a right-angle microUSB connector for the phone plugin at the dock.
Then I bought a normal, USB extension cable.
And bought a three way normal USB-OTG cable (USB-OTG plus a USB connector for charging).
I snipped off one end of the short USB-OTG and matched the four wires by color to the straight (longer) USB cable. Then took that end and matched it up to the three-way USB-OTG cable. Again, just soldering the four wires to each other. All the colors matched up perfectly.
Wish I didn't lose the pics I took of that procedure. I'd post them if I still had them.
It was all super easy to do.
Cables needed for DAC for Craig's Dock?
CZ Eddie said:
Well, it's either in this thread or the USB-DAC thread?
I just bought a very short USB-OTG connector that had a right-angle microUSB connector for the phone plugin at the dock.
Then I bought a normal, USB extension cable.
And bought a three way normal USB-OTG cable (USB-OTG plus a USB connector for charging).
I snipped off one end of the short USB-OTG and matched the four wires by color to the straight (longer) USB cable. Then took that end and matched it up to the three-way USB-OTG cable. Again, just soldering the four wires to each other. All the colors matched up perfectly.
Wish I didn't lose the pics I took of that procedure. I'd post them if I still had them.
It was all super easy to do.
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Hello, first CZ Eddie, you have been so helpful with this thread and the "The $43 Galaxy S3 + Car Stereo Upgrade for WaaaY better sound quality! USB-DAC Audio" thread. THANK YOU!
I finally bought a new car stereo and will be having it installed by a local company (I am not too handy with vehicle installations). The car stereo has aux and USB on the front side (I want to keep USB on front open for thumb drive music). I purchased a Craigs Dock (from the website you listed above - awesome!) as well. I want to provide the installer with AS MUCH OF THE EQUIPMENT as possible, and a detailed diagram on how to create what you created with the USB-DAC using the Craigs Dock.
As of now I believe I will need to provide the following for a clean installation (can you please tell me if I'm missing something like a necessary connector or cable to connect to Craigs Dock?):
* Two-USB cigarette lighter power source (from amazon, RAVPower® Car USB Charger Dual USB Port 3.1A(2.1A+1A) / 15.5W / ...)
* The new Car Stereo Kenwood KDC-X896 (I can't post links here)
* Craigs Dock (powered by USB connector in cigarette lighter)
* Behringer UCA202 USB DAC (same as posted in your thread, connected to RCA audio cable to aux in on front of stereo)
* Micro USB Host OTG Cable with Micro USB Power for Samsung i9100 i9300 i9220 i9250 (same as posted in your thread; connected from DAC's USB to a power source/micro USB, and then the other end to the Craigs Dock)
* 3.5mm Male To (2) RCA Stereo Audio Cable - (6 Feet) - Step Down Design accommodates iPhone, iTouch, SmartPhones & MP3 cases
* Mini USB male to USB male (for connecting DAC power end to cigarette lighter USB) - such as the Amazon basics A-Male-Mini-B-Cable-...)
Am I missing something? How do I connect the Micro USB Host OTG Cable end into the Craigs Dock?
Thanks for any help you can offer!
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Thanks for any help you can offer!
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Does USB-DAC work again for the S3? Last time I checked, it wasn't working on AOSP ROM's. I have an S4 now though so I have not kept up on things.
Btw, the S4 fits in the same Craigsdock just fine. So does the NOTE II.
I recommend this setup for power. It's cleaner and works better. Just tie it into any 12V power lead.
http://img2.media.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43697113
You don't want Mini-USB. You need Micro-USB.
So, in this pic where it says "This end goes to MicroUSB Power Source", I would just cut off that end of the cable and hard wire it to the power source I linked above.
I don't use DAC's anymore. I use the APT-X Bluetooth codec. It's 95% as good as a DAC when it comes to sound. But 5000% more convenient.
It won't win any audio awards but it's much better than regular Bluetooth and almost as good as DAC.
No need for DAC? OK much easier.
CZ Eddie said:
I recommend this setup for power. It's cleaner and works better. Just tie it into any 12V power lead.
http://img2.media.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43697113
You don't want Mini-USB. You need Micro-USB.
I don't use DAC's anymore. I use the APT-X Bluetooth codec. It's 95% as good as a DAC when it comes to sound. But 5000% more convenient.
It won't win any audio awards but it's much better than regular Bluetooth and almost as good as DAC.
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Thanks CZ Eddie! So, from what I'm reading I will just use my APT-X Bluetooth codec (inherent in the S4) to stream through my Kenwood audio system, which is bluetooth compatible. (I'm OK with a 5% less quality sound by using the bluetooth!) So the only thing I will need to do is connect the CraigsDock to the power source. Is that it?! To get high quality sound?! It just seams too easy!
ebrowni said:
Thanks CZ Eddie! So, from what I'm reading I will just use my APT-X Bluetooth codec (inherent in the S4) to stream through my Kenwood audio system, which is bluetooth compatible. (I'm OK with a 5% less quality sound by using the bluetooth!) So the only thing I will need to do is connect the CraigsDock to the power source. Is that it?! To get high quality sound?! It just seams too easy!
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Amazingly easy. I love being to remove the phone from the dock and the audio never stops playing.
All you need the dock for is for charging and to hold the phone at eye level.
You can also use Car Home Ultra to give you a car friendly interface. I have mine set so Car Home Ultra automatically wakes the phone and opens up as soon as it senses the bluetooth connection.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=spinninghead.carhome.license&hl=en
Oh but one problem. No current Car Stereo has APT-X capability.
So you have to buy an APT-X receiver and plug that into the AUX-input of your car stereo.
That's the easy part. The only hard part is hard-wiring the APT-X receiver into a power source. But you can share the same power source that the phone will use.
This is the APT-X receiver I have:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...iver/5654132.p?id=1218679203690&skuId=5654132
I'll do a DIY thread here someday. I've had this setup for a few months and it's great.
Thanks so much - Another question... Of course!
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Oh but one problem. No current Car Stereo has APT-X capability.
So you have to buy an APT-X receiver and plug that into the AUX-input of your car stereo.
That's the easy part. The only hard part is hard-wiring the APT-X receiver into a power source. But you can share the same power source that the phone will use.
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Thanks for the info on the App! I'll get that setup on my S4 once everything's in place. Also thanks for the link to the Rocketfish on bestbuy.
A few more questions (of course!):
* On installation, can I have the Rocketfish placed behind the stereo/out of sight, with it continuing to work/without interference? Assuming I hard-wire it for power then that would be easiest.
* Also, I'm guessing that I need to buy an aux cable to connect to the front aux input of my car stereo. HOWEVER, I'm attaching a picture of the back of the kenwood kdc-x896 - is there another way that I could connect to the car stereo using the connections offered in the back? then the front of the stereo would be completely clean and it would be integrated behind the stereo.
What do you think?
Thank you!
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* On installation, can I have the Rocketfish placed behind the stereo/out of sight, with it continuing to work/without interference? Assuming I hard-wire it for power then that would be easiest.
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Absolutely. Mine is buried way deep inside my dash somewhere.
Hard wired power for a few months... not a single problem with it at all.
It turns on when my ignition key turns. And turns off the same way.
It connects to my phone super quick every time I get in the car. I don't have to initiate the connection, ever.
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Also, I'm guessing that I need to buy an aux cable to connect to the front aux input of my car stereo. HOWEVER, I'm attaching a picture of the back of the kenwood kdc-x896 - is there another way that I could connect to the car stereo using the connections offered in the back? then the front of the stereo would be completely clean and it would be integrated behind the stereo.
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Nope, you have to connect to the AUX on the front.
You can find car stereo's with rear AUX. It's harder to find them, but they are out there.
If you can handle having a car stereo with rear USB input (run a cord to the front for your USB stick), then there are a couple stereos near your price range that have rear 3.5mm AUX input:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IuY1I6ICy10/p_105KDX80BT/JVC-KD-X80BT.html
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-eYwsaEZ5rq0/p_113KDCX996/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X996.html
Just hafta search for the good prices on the Kenwood. I saw it under $200 somewhere.
Thanks for your help!
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Absolutely. Mine is buried way deep inside my dash somewhere.
Hard wired power for a few months... not a single problem with it at all.
It turns on when my ignition key turns. And turns off the same way.
It connects to my phone super quick every time I get in the car. I don't have to initiate the connection, ever.
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AWESOME! I'll just tuck it in behind and hard wire to the battery with the craigsdock power... So great that the ignition starts everything and it automatically connects.
CZ Eddie said:
Nope, you have to connect to the AUX on the front. You can find car stereo's with rear AUX. It's harder to find them, but they are out there.
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I already bought the Kenwood after lots of research... The KDC-x996 looked great but the downfall (for me) was CD insertion; it has to be done with the faceplate off, and I'm "old school" (haha) and like CDs still. Thanks so much for the suggestions with the rear inputs! I'm really happy that the only cable that will be seen (aside from the Craigsdock power line) is the aux input on the front. Very excited to get this setup! Thanks CZ Eddie!
This is a review of HiFimeDIY Sabre Android DAC. http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124
As many of you probably noticed, I have been focusing a lot lately on headphones and portable DAC/Amp/DAP reviews. There is no denial, our smartphones becoming our personal entertainment center to watch tv shows and movies, to play video games, to listen to music, to stream social media, and so on. The smartphones get bigger, more powerful, and have better displays. But one thing still remains the same - the sound delivery is nowhere near a hi-fi quality. For those who are OK with a pair of $10 earbuds, this will not be an issue because you will not hear a difference. But for others who value a sound quality and have an audiophile collection of headphones - you are limited by a sub-par internal DAC which takes a raw digital audio data and converts it to analog signal delivered to headphone jack inside of your phone. This is a not a clean solution to drive a quality headphones. Fortunately, there is a number of portable mobile DACs and amplifiers. Some can connect to your micro-USB port to receive a raw digital audio data for external processing, while others can take output of your headphone jack and process it through external amplifier. Unfortunately with a combined DAC/amp device you don't have a flexibility to use a different amplifier, and driving an external amp from headphone jack will mean amplifying already processed audio signal. That's where HiFimeDIY Android DAC comes to the rescue!
I wasn't even aware of this product until someone mentioned to me in the forum with a request to review it. This Android DAC is a very compact solution of bringing your digital audio outside of your phone to be processed with an external DAC. Using PCM2706 USB receiver which accepts up to 48kHz/16bit audio and also a popular Sabre ES9023 DAC chip, you get a clean analog conversion of the extracted digital audio signal brought out to 3.5mm port. You can connect your headphones directly, but that's not the main intent of this product. Just for the purpose of using headphones without amplifier, I'm not sure if it makes sense to add another dongle to your phone. But if you want to drive your high impedance headphones from a portable amplifier or want to connect your phone to a high class audio system - this little gadget for under $30 will be a perfect solution! One thing to mention, since it doesn't have built in rechargeable battery, it will source a power from your phone, but I haven't noticed any major drain.
The analog output from this Android DAC sounds relatively clean and neutral. I tested and compared it to my Note 2 headphone output, and you can really hear a difference at higher volume where Note 2 DAC starts to saturate while Sabre is still clean. Of course, you can always go with a fully integrated solution such as I have with FiiO E18 or Beyerdynamic A200p, but that cost anywhere from $160 to $300 and more. I don't have any dedicated headphone amps to test with now (never had a need since I have all low impedance headphones), but hopefully will update my review in a near future when I get one. Overall, with HiFimeDIY Sabre Android DAC you have more flexibility and can pick your own amplifier to match your favorite set of headphones with your smartphone.
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I use this in my car, definitely better than using the headphone out. I also have the Fiio E17, which I prefer, but it's too much hassle for my car setup.
Nice clean setup!!!
Interesting review.
Have you tried with latest KitKat roms?
When you connect you headphones, will the volume change with volume keys?
How is the sound when connected with an external amplifier? Have you tried to compare it to a good CD player?
vectron said:
As many of you probably noticed, I have been focusing a lot lately on headphones and portable DAC/Amp/DAP reviews.
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Sorry, I forgot to ask you where did you buy the item. I've found it on eBay.
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Yes, you should be able to change the volume. What it does is bypasses your phone's "dirty" DAC so the signal doesn't get converted internally (digital to analog), and rather comes out digitally through micro-usb connector to this external "clean" DAC.
Sorry, I'm all stock Android 4.4.2 on my Note 2. And you can buy it directly from their website (per link in my review) or probable ebay, though make sure it's a legitimate seller because ebay has a lot of fake stuff. I received mine directly from HiFimeDIY as a review sample.
vectron said:
Yes, you should be able to change the volume. What it does is bypasses your phone's "dirty" DAC so the signal doesn't get converted internally (digital to analog), and rather comes out digitally through micro-usb connector to this external "clean" DAC.
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My S4i are designed for iPhone but the middle button still works on my Android phone. However, it isn't working with my new HiFimeDIY Android DAC. I have a single-button cable for IM70 coming in the mail so I'll post my findings with that. I'll be really disappointed if I can't use controls with this since it improves the sound so much on my Moto X.
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My S4i are designed for iPhone but the middle button still works on my Android phone. However, it isn't working with my new HiFimeDIY Android DAC. I have a single-button cable for IM70 coming in the mail so I'll post my findings with that. I'll be really disappointed if I can't use controls with this since it improves the sound so much on my Moto X.
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It's NOT supposed to work. When you push remote button on your S4i or IM70, it sends a special signal to headphone jack of your phone to control the playback or call, etc. That's why those headphones connectors have TRRS connector - Tip Ring Ring Sleeve. HiFimeDIY headphone connector is TRS (Tip Ring Sleeve) so that special control signal will not be decoded back to your phone through micro-usb connection (it's lost). That connection is for AUDIO only, while your headphones send audio and data (control).
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It's NOT supposed to work. When you push remote button on your S4i or IM70, it sends a special signal to headphone jack of your phone to control the playback or call, etc. That's why those headphones connectors have TRRS connector - Tip Ring Ring Sleeve. HiFimeDIY headphone connector is TRS (Tip Ring Sleeve) so that special control signal will not be decoded back to your phone through micro-usb connection (it's lost). That connection is for AUDIO only, while your headphones send audio and data (control).
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UGH. If I've learned one thing in my recent foray into audio equipment, it's that you have to make tradeoffs. If I want quality audio, I have to pull my phone out of my pocket every time I want to pause, change volume, or skip to the next track. How do we have hoverboards and magic pocket computers and virtual reality but we don't have this!? This is why people use iPhones. For the added features Android provides, you need to be okay with a lot of things not working or being subpar (like DACs and audio controls). Also, maybe you should have mentioned that (unless I just missed it)?
Does yours have a loose USB connection? Mine can slip out.
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Does yours have a loose USB connection? Mine can slip out.
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Unfortunately, it does. Stay tuned, I'm posting a review of Cozoy Astrapi in a few minutes
I'm noticing a trend. You seem to not mention negatives in your review.
Slusho said:
I'm noticing a trend. You seem to not mention negatives in your review.
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Negatives come from a comparison of one product vs the other. Read my Cozoy Astrapi review, you will see negatives about HiFimeDIY If I don't like a product, I simply don't review it. If I like a product, I will describe it in details so you can make your own judgment. And sometime I get very impressed with "positives" about the product, but rest assured - if you read my reviews carefully, I point out negatives as well. Just that my format is not like other reviewers where they make a list of positives and negatives. Plus, in my opinion, a lot of negatives come from an extended use of the product after you get to know it better lol!!! Unfortunately, I have written hundreds of reviews and it will be next to impossible to come back to every review with a follow up impressions. Thus, I'm depending on you guys to ask me questions
One more thing. I'm not working for a website or a blog where they give me to review products, and I review to decide if I like it or not. I do my own research and contact companies of products that I like and want to review. That also makes a difference on a more positive outlook of my reviews
HI all
I have a hifime for android and it works great with my moto G.
I recently got a Huawei Honor 6 phone which supports OTG USB (i can plug a USB key trhough the USB port and read files like movies)
Now when i plug the hifime dac, it does'nt work. The led is green but doesn't deliver any sound...
I though the requierement was to support USB OTG only... Kind of desapointed.
Any tricks?
Thanks!
K
kalapyu said:
HI all
I have a hifime for android and it works great with my moto G.
I recently got a Huawei Honor 6 phone which supports OTG USB (i can plug a USB key trhough the USB port and read files like movies)
Now when i plug the hifime dac, it does'nt work. The led is green but doesn't deliver any sound...
I though the requierement was to support USB OTG only... Kind of desapointed.
Any tricks?
Thanks!
K
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Also has to do with Android version, in case if they customized it.
So what should i do? Is there any fix ? Busybox? Firmware? Kernel ? What about cm?
kalapyu said:
So what should i do? Is there any fix ? Busybox? Firmware? Kernel ? What about cm?
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I would probably contact hifimediy to ask what they can recommend. Sorry
Also, try this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro (scroll down, they have a link to a limit demo version). It has its "own" built in drivers to send audio over usb. See if this going to help.