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[Ask]Hiw i can Optimize my RAM

Hi i want to ask
How to optimize my phone RAM i use v6 supercharger but my ram is still 163mb
I use 4 messenger Catfizz,Line,yahoo,facebook
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Use adrenaline engine
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Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.

Chamiakas said:
Technically, it's hard to tell the difference performance-wise. Android does it's own memory management, but also it won't hurt anyone if you try RAM tweaks and see the result for yourself.
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remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail

deathnotice01 said:
remove facebook, yahoo, and all other apps that runs on the background,
even if you have v6, the apps still runs in the memory
no matter what ram tweak you do if you have background hog memory apps and due to the limitation of our device you shall fail
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I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.

Thx but i very loves facebook app
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if you are much conscious about ram then never use and go product they are the hogger beast
check every app's ram consumption then you their alternative with less ram consumption
if you love ics keyboard, then there are 2, one uses about 10 mb and other uses about 20 mb

Chamiakas said:
I did not quite get that you said there, but I didin't encounter a single problem due to low RAM. Of course it can be because I don't usually run a lot of apps at once.
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even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram

Death notice can u make a theme for M.U.R v2 with blacksense?thanks
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deathnotice01 said:
even if you don't run the app, they actually run on the background doing things you don't know, consuming your battery and your ram
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Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.

Best way to optimize RAM for starters is to monitor your background, cached and running processes well. First, freeze stock background running bloatware using TB. Mainly DRM content (some say it messes with ringtones and stuff but I never experienced that), wsynclmps, syncmIDs, maps (unfreeze it only when needede), software update(this really doesnt help and is waste of RAM+space), pico TTS , TTS service(these two are for voice to text conversion and are literally not much used), samsung account(is waste compared to play store), two email ones (use gmail app these dont help much), social hub , samsung push service.Choose adrenaline engine if you want multi tasking and v6 if you want more free ram.You can mix both of them but its risky and needs some scripting skills to remove the conflicts they make and highly NOT recommended.

Chamiakas said:
Well, thats true, but the RAM is meant to be cached (fully used) for quickly launching the desired application.
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completely agree with this one. less ram is not alway a good news in android system since it has unique RAM management. for quick acces and less RAM r/w some of app is stored in RAM's cache. SGY's default ram setting is already good enough for multitasking and gaming option. if you want a better performance in your device you don't need lesser RAM. instead of it you need a better memory and app management.

Thnks i use lessly ram now 121
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best way to manage memory and processes

I use system panel lite to the what processes are running and how much memory is being used how can I manage this properly so I can save on resources. my phone seems like it is using a lot of memory and cpu as well
I tried system auditor and I don't think that works well at all

I use OS Monitor to monitor processes and memory usage and I use Autorun Manager to control what apps allowed to run at startup and run by itself (enable/disable recievers).
I don't use any task management app. Android OS automagically do it for you.
For more information about task management on Andoid, I recomend you to read this article:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Hope it helps.

I use Android System Info (prev used it on the N1).
Has tabs for system, tasks and apps as well as 'overall'
and tracks memory and cpu%.

buzzcomp said:
I use OS Monitor to monitor processes and memory usage and I use Autorun Manager to control what apps allowed to run at startup and run by itself (enable/disable recievers).
I don't use any task management app. Android OS automagically do it for you.
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This. Unless you have a poorly coded app, I wouldn't even worry about it. I haven't used a task manager since my G1 days.

Unused ram is wasted ram. There is absolutely NO NEED to manage memory in android yourself, and you end up wasting battery/time/effort trying to so.
Tl;dr, android caches more recently used apps in memory, and clears memory when needed. Don't manage it yourself.
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In addition to what the guys above me said, you should look at what apps are always running in the background and pay attention to the permissions apps ask for before downloading them. Many apps will rerun themselves right after being closed by task managers making it a vicious circle of death for your battery.

I use system panel paid version with monitoring enabled to keep my processes in check. System panel is by far the best method on android. I just check the history over the last 2 hours, or I check it in the morning to see what it tracked all night while idle, and its by far the most accurate and most complete picture you can get to see what an android phone is doing.

dmuhamma said:
In addition to what the guys above me said, you should look at what apps are always running in the background and pay attention to the permissions apps ask for before downloading them. Many apps will rerun themselves right after being closed by task managers making it a vicious circle of death for your battery.
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Any app that starts with priority 300 is a service and will just start back up when killed. I like to look at processes with memory usage app by twistbyte. With this you can see all apps running and what priority they are running under. Know that any app running in 300 will use battery in background.
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How can increase the performance and battery life for Note Pro

HI ALL,
I will root my device , but I want to know how to increase its performance and speed and reduce RAM usage?
and what is the best browser for Android for fast browsing and low memory usage?

Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.

This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
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ShadowLea said:
Most of the speed increasing and RAM decreasing can be done without root. Replacing Touchwiz with Apex or Nova Launcher is the first step that makes the most difference. Disable most of the bloatware and turn down animations in developer options.
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thanks a lot man , I used nove launcher and its v nice , I guess need to root so I can freeze more apps as not all can be disabled using offical rom
muzzy996 said:
This post probably belongs in the Q&A section, not the software one.
Reduction in RAM usage doesn't necessarily equate to performance boost. Android memory management does a good job of keeping things running smoothly so the goal of debloating should not be to free up RAM. To maximize performance with regards to memory usage with Android what you'll want to do is debloat your device to the point that applications that you'll never use are no longer loading into memory automatically (either as active applications or cached) which will allow other frequently used applications a chance to load into RAM/cache for quick response times. Running memory management software is also counter productive as it will battle against Android's own memory management and kill background applications that you may want cached for quicker response when needed.
Personally I WANT RAM to fill up because if I'm jumping from application to application I don't want to wait for things to load from storage into RAM. I also refrain from cache cleaning frequently because I have a particular routine when I use my device (frequenting particular websites and using particular applications daily) so clearing cache frequently will only force my device to have to re-cache things unnecessarily.
Getting down to the nitty gritty of how to debloat, the approach I took for my device is to work with a few applications; SystemPanelLite Task Manager, Greenify, Boot Manager and Titanium Backup. I would clean boot my device and let it sit for a while (several minutes) to cache applications as it saw fit. I'd then pop into the system panel lite application and look at what was loaded into both active processes and cached. I'd evaluate each entry to determine for myself whether or not I wanted that application to load automatically or not OR NEVER. If the answer was never then I'd use Titanium Backup to freeze the application (of course for each app I'd do my research to see if it was serving an important function). If the answer was that I needed the application but not all of the time then I'd look into Greenifying it and also considered disabling it from starting at boot using boot manager.
I'd do the above iteratively until all I saw in RAM or cached were applications and services that I felt were important. Never during this process did I care how low memory usage was since the goal is to preload as much of the important stuff as possible.
In the end I ended up freezing a ton of Samsung apps, especially after uninstalling applications that relied on their own app store like Hancom.
Of course a quicker way to reduce bloat is to go to a ROM that someone else has debloated and start there as a base. I began my own debloating process early last year though so starting again on a ROM even if it already is debloated to a certain extent doesn't seem worth it for me at this time (but if a lollipop update rolls out and a ROM developer updates to that then I'll surely try it).
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Really helpfull man thanks a lot for all the information u shared, am ok with but guess will need to do more research for greenify cuz I didnt use it at all, secondly what office u used after uniinstalling hancom?

I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.

muzzy996 said:
I'm currently using Microsoft's Word/Excel Preview apps and have an Office 365 account to enable editing. I've just started (1 month trial) so I haven't really gotten a lot of use out of the software yet.
I can't speak for anyone else but myself but my reason for dropping Hancom was twofold; 1) it did not support the review/commenting features that I needed in Word files and 2) it often required updates at inopportune times. My needs are quite specific, my tablet is a reference and note taking device for meetings and is never used for production type work. As such, I need the ability to take email attachments, open them for review and comment and then send the comments back out as email attachments. The limitations of Hancom when it comes to track changes were a deal breaker for me since I could not see the history of development of reports/documents.
Microsoft's mobile version of Word implements the best support of track changes/comments that I've found to date, so I'm forced to pay the premium of a 365 subscription on this device to get what I need.
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thanks for reply and sorry for late , hoping the android 5 be great

Install cm12 lollipop ROM. Drastic improvement in browser performance and gaming. For example, Asphalt 8 is extremely slow on stock, even overclocked. On cm12 it runs perfectly with max graphics settings. Unfortunately you lose all the cool touchwiz features like multi window. For me, the performance improvement is enough that it's worth the lost features. I'm anxiously waiting for the official lollipop update.

Android Oreo Nexus 5X Killing apps while switching

As the title says, since i installed Oreo on my Nexus 5X, every time i switch apps they get killed. Trying to fill out forms in apps by copy pasting stuff from other apps, activating apps with sms codes and all that it's GONE completely, there is just no way to do that anymore.
- I disabled battery optimization for all the apps
- Phone is rooted with Magisk and all that. Rooted or non rooted does the same anyway. That's why i rooted, at least i get some other functions i like with xposed.
- Plenty of ram for apps to run, like it was on Android 7
- No other apps that can make this happen, everything is clean and nothing that i don't use or anything agressive. Automate-it Pro for sure doesn't do this.
I searched on them webs for so long and nothing, no one has any ideas how to disable this function or fix it or anything. So any help would be extremely appreciated.

There's not much we can do to help with the ram management on this phone besides buying a custom 4GB motherboard like these guys here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/4gb-ram-upgraded-nexus-5x-t3588743
You could also try to change the LowMemoryKiller values so apps aren't closed as quickly. Here's the directory and some values I've grabbed from Franciscofranco's kernel(These values are the same as the Nexus 5) that you can use:
/sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree 18432,23040,27648,32256,36864,46080
Hopefully this helps you out dude.

RAM Leak

Hi,
i guess Stock Pie has a Memory Leak and Garbage collector doesnt work.
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
What i did:
- i set background restriction to these apps. (64 app restricted)
- i select app restrict behavior to Frequent. (for all of them)
- Task manager is empty.
- Cant see these leaked apps even on Android 9's built in Ram usage feature.
- i tryed kill apps when leave feature on the developer options. (These apps garbage still stays on the Ram)
- i even set background app limit 4 (Somehow developer options closed it self and everything i set reverted back to stock when i restart my phone)
But apps still eats the Ram from the background. I know because i can see Ram details on the AIDA64 app.
Phone starts with ~1600'ish mb available Ram. Available Ram decreases when i open-close these background restricted apps. (Hey! I am restricting apps because i dont want them working on the background. Like a Google Translator, Mi Remote, Hd Wallpapers app etc. i restricted all but these apps still works.) If my phone's Ram decrease everything starts slowing down. I am seeing it and i can feel it. After 5 or 10 minute later Ram usage jumps ~2000 mb. Some pieces of background restricted apps still stays in the Ram and i cant avoid from it on Stock Pie and these pieces slowing down my phone's performance. I am not using 26 apps!! Maybe 4 or 5 apps i am frequently using. I dont want unused apps garbage on Ram.
Huawei's EMUI has a built-in feature to avoid auto-start apps. Some custom roms has a Wake-Lock blocker. But i dont have anything on Stock Pie.
I just dont want these apps garbage on my phone's Ram. Because of these reasons i can clearly say Mi A2 Lite's Stock Pie rom has bad garbage collector. Dont know Xiaomi modified it or not. Probably thats why Stock Pie roms consumes more battery than Stock Oreo.
I am not the man who believe 'unused Ram is a waste'.
I just want most important system apps on the Ram and other almost everything shouldnt occupy a space on the Ram. This motto is the key reason of performance for Budget phones on my perspective.
Rom details:
Locked - Stock Android 9 - v10.16.0 (November 2019)
What i am asking is:
- Which Roms has built-in feature to avoid from this?
- Which Roms has a best Garbage collector?
- Which Rom fits to my requirements?
Thanks.

perfect_ said:
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
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You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.

a1291762 said:
You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.
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I did not misunderstand anything. You didnt understand what i mean exactly.
Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them? I am using them once a week or so. Thats why i dont need faster launch. Because i am not using them? Clear?Youre talking about app restart power consumption. Thats the point. I am not using them and i am not starting them in a single charge. Even if i want to restart these (as i said this thing happens once a week) apps restart power consumption consumes incomparably less energy than phone restart power consumption. I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
Do you prefer trashy Ram with bunch of junks? I dont prefer it. I cant clean these apps Ram garbage until restart my phone. The restart consumes a lot of energy and when my phones Ram become trashy i should restart all system to clean them.
Restart has benefits;
- More performance
- Clean Ram
- Better Battery life until Ram become trashy
What i am saying is why i cant use these benefits without restart. Think about all these power consumption when we restart our phone.
Its all about garbage collection and this thing doesnt work on Android Pie. I tryed Greenify gived it all what app wants still nothing changed. Ram still gets trashy and this causes; slowdowns, hiccups, more battery consumption,.. etc. Even my phone’s processor and battery doesnt like garbage on Ram.
I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.

perfect_ said:
Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them?
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Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
perfect_ said:
I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
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It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
perfect_ said:
I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.
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The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.

a1291762 said:
Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.
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There is no point to talk with you. You dont even know what junk it is. Do not write to my threads!