So whenever I change roms, or re-root my phone, I tend to have to reinstall all my programs since I had a terrible experience with Titanium. Regardless, not a huge deal since I tend to enjoy trying new apps and what not. But...I realized that a ton of crap is left on my sd card. Is there a "safe" way to go around and cleaning that crap up without fearing that it'll affect my phone, or the apps that are installed? Any suggestions on how to maintain the "cleanliness" of my sd card? Same goes for internal storage as well...
Try SDmaid it's in the market free. It will clean out any left over files that have no programs/apps associated to them. I use it all the time.
I have seen several conflicting threads on this, but no clear solution. Basically, the problem I have is that if I move more than 50 or so apps to my SD card (I have heard others complain about the problem manifesting at around 70 apps) a race condition occurs during the card scan, which since it doesn't complete before a timeout, causes the phone to soft reset (basically reload just the top level OS above the continuously running kernel). These resets then continue to occur at semi-random intervals, such as every time you try to access the memory card. So far, the only fix I have is to delete apps from the SD card, and it really doesn't matter which ones they are, only that above a certain number, the system becomes unstable, and I presume it is because the system cannot index all of the apps fast enough. I can't believe the stupid Samsung engineers never thought of fixing this.
Anyway, I am running a stock, rooted kernel, stock ROM, but the internal memory is nearly full with all of the large applications that for whatever reason cannot be moved to SD. Does anybody have any viable options?
I have heard of some people using app2SD. I have heard of others remapping their external storage to sd_card with the USB storage mapped to sd_card/external_sd. I tried replacing my memory card (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 2) with a brand new, out of box (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 6), and I am still limited to the same number of installed apps. I'm not sure, but I think the number of active widgets on the desktop may also be a contributing factor (all of my widgets are stored to internal memory).
I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
wase4711 said:
I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
well, the answer to your problem is easy; get rid of 1/2 the **** on your phone that you never use, and you will be fine!
if you don't use it every day or at least once a week, its gotta go
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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It really isn't hard to use a bunch of apps, particularly with all the websites, including this one, that have their own viewer apps (or Wikipedia, urban dictionary, etc.). Anyway, I have all my apps in folders so it still only requires 2 pages of apps. I think it is stupid that they designed the operating system so that you would be app limited, even with an unlimited amount of storage via the sd card slot. I hope this is one feature they fixed in ICS. A much better strategy for exploiting the multilevel memory architecture would have been to allow the user to install ALL nonessential apps to the SD card by default, eliminating the need for soft links in internal storage, and then use the internal storage as a nonvolatile app cache with an LRU replacement policy. This would then give the most commonly used apps the performance benefit of running from internal storage without the user having to go moving crap around. It would actually be very similar to what Intel is now doing with solid-state drives as a hard disk cache with the new Z68 chipset.
Certain apps, more like games, use the SD card for saving data like many Gameloft titles like Gun Bros save over a gig of data onto the card so that the actual app doesn't take up too much room. The only problem is that our phones use that internal storage for everything and I was wondering if there was a way to switch apps from using my internal card to using the external as a default.
My external card is a 32GB and the internal is a 16GB so I have plenty of room.
The search feature is really awesome...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068251
Believe me, I tried searching for hours on Google and with this forum and other forum's search engines. But thanks.
Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
Analyss14 said:
Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
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move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
sora9009 said:
move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
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Yeah...I know.
I have a Samsung 64 gb evo uhs micro sd card. What exactly are the benefits beside storing music, photos and etc?
I tried moving a game(hearthstone) which requires a lot of power to the sd card. What would be the difference if you were to run it off from the sd card than from internal memory?
I have so much space on my sd card(60gb), I only have 1 game, don't have music nor movies and barely any apps. Are there anything else I can implement to the sd card?
Hi,
http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-2333937/moving-installed-apps-card-galaxy-tab.html
This is a similar link to how to do it. The SD card wont use a lot of power and there is only part of Applications you can store one the SD card. You will notice when you move things a certain amount of space remains on the internal SD.
The internal storage is faster than the SD cards (in general), and is always powered where the SD card can be put to low power when the device is sleeping. You may notice no difference or possible the game run a tad slower on the SD card but I would imagine not a noticeable difference. I have a lot of space (exactly the same SD card) so I have started filling it up with movies and music. You could get a lot of stuff on there for when you need to watch something but do not have WiFi.
I have the T805 ~(so LTE) and actually find because of having my data and Netflix I do not use nearly enough of my SD card. To make things worse Kitkat ruined SD cards so you can't use them properly within apps such as utorrent.
lynxblaine said:
Hi,
http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-2333937/moving-installed-apps-card-galaxy-tab.html
This is a similar link to how to do it. The SD card wont use a lot of power and there is only part of Applications you can store one the SD card. You will notice when you move things a certain amount of space remains on the internal SD.
The internal storage is faster than the SD cards (in general), and is always powered where the SD card can be put to low power when the device is sleeping. You may notice no difference or possible the game run a tad slower on the SD card but I would imagine not a noticeable difference. I have a lot of space (exactly the same SD card) so I have started filling it up with movies and music. You could get a lot of stuff on there for when you need to watch something but do not have WiFi.
I have the T805 ~(so LTE) and actually find because of having my data and Netflix I do not use nearly enough of my SD card. To make things worse Kitkat ruined SD cards so you can't use them properly within apps such as utorrent.
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Hey thanks for posting, this information is great! That sucks how KitKat doesn't really utilize the sd card well then. I guess we'd have to wait for the official release of Lollipop hah. So we can actually run games off of the sd card? Obviously this will be run on a lesser performance but will it save battery since it doesn't use as much power from running on the sd card? I'd rather have less performance on a game than running out of battery faster and heating the device(which happens when I play from internal memory).
The only Heat you will get when playing games will be the CPU and possibly the display. The internal memory shouldn't get particularly hot.
There is no clear consensus if the SD card or internal save battery but if your device runs faster by having the Apps running off the SD card rather than clogging the internal memory that would be a bonus. Try it and see I would say.