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"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

[Q] Water damaged/Bricked??

i dropped my phone last night during heavy rain and forgot about him for about 30-45 mins when i went back out and got it the battery was out. i turned him on and he booted up to the lock screen but then i couldnt unlock it so i turned it off and put it in rice for about 12 hours and i turned it on and it got stuck at the lock screen again. Then it wouldnt boot up past the kernel splash at all nor go into recovery. i got it in download mode and odined to stock but still no go. It seems to be going very very very slow because i just randomlly found it in recovery and the volume controls were very slow and the home button wouldnt do anything. can someone help me? any advice anything to try out? its like its water damaged and bricked.
Edit: i got it to boot but it is the slowest thing ive ever seen. any suggestions?

lilajrestnom said:
i dropped my phone last night during heavy rain and forgot about him for about 30-45 mins when i went back out and got it the battery was out. i turned him on and he booted up to the lock screen but then i couldnt unlock it so i turned it off and put it in rice for about 12 hours and i turned it on and it got stuck at the lock screen again. Then it wouldnt boot up past the kernel splash at all nor go into recovery. i got it in download mode and odined to stock but still no go. It seems to be going very very very slow because i just randomlly found it in recovery and the volume controls were very slow and the home button wouldnt do anything. can someone help me? any advice anything to try out? its like its water damaged and bricked.
Edit: i got it to boot but it is the slowest thing ive ever seen. any suggestions?
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Sounds like you have a water logged defective unit on your hands. Aside from dismantling the thing and drying out the insides, you probably have a paper weight on your hands.
Sorry man.

nikon120 said:
Sounds like you have a water logged defective unit on your hands. Aside from dismantling the thing and drying out the insides, you probably have a paper weight on your hands.
Sorry man.
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thanks for the reply. i guess i need to find a new phone somewhere.

So I ordered a replacment and the guy emphasized on the "as long as its not water damaged" part so does anyone know if theres like a water damage indicator inside the phone that may have changed or show that some water may have gotten in the phone?

lilajrestnom said:
So I ordered a replacment and the guy emphasized on the "as long as its not water damaged" part so does anyone know if theres like a water damage indicator inside the phone that may have changed or show that some water may have gotten in the phone?
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Majority of phones have a water saturation indicator on in the inside. However, I couldn't tell you where that is located in our's. You could search a bit on the internet, I'm sure you could find a tear down video or something.

Nikon said:
Majority of phones have a water saturation indicator on in the inside. However, I couldn't tell you where that is located in our's. You could search a bit on the internet, I'm sure you could find a tear down video or something.
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I did a little search and apparently the only indicator is on the battery so I should have no problems. The phone does turn on it just takes about an hour to get passed the Samsung screen so hopefully they wont look too deep for any water problems.

Okay, so after letting my phone sit with no battery for like 5 hours i tried to turn it on and it worked 100%. It was back on stock since i odin'd stock FC09 on it. Then I flashed cwm and restored my backup and i ended up with the same touch screen problems. So now I'm back at the point where i just odin'd stock on my phone and it still won't boot passed the samsung screen. I'm going to take out the battery and let it sit. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Could this one time working event be just a random thing or is it from leaving the phone alone for the few hours I did? Any suggestions or thoughts?

lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so after letting my phone sit with no battery for like 5 hours i tried to turn it on and it worked 100%. It was back on stock since i odin'd stock FC09 on it. Then I flashed cwm and restored my backup and i ended up with the same touch screen problems. So now I'm back at the point where i just odin'd stock on my phone and it still won't boot passed the samsung screen. I'm going to take out the battery and let it sit. Can anyone explain why this is happening? Could this one time working event be just a random thing or is it from leaving the phone alone for the few hours I did? Any suggestions or thoughts?
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The touch screen problems sound like it's hardware related. As for it not booting passed the sammy screen idk.

[Q] Graphics Issues + Crash while charging

Hello all!
I have noticed that recently, my phone has been doing a very odd thing while charging. When it has been plugged in for a little while, and the screen is on and in use, sometimes the phone will crash. When it crashes in this manner, the backlight on the screen is turned on on full brightness, the screen gets a yellowish hue, and horizontal black bars start appearing on the screen. More black bars keep appearing until I reset the phone (hold the power button), and then there is no evidence of any screen problems. I also generally have to unplug it for a while, as if this happens once, it generally happens multiple times until I unplug the phone and wait. These problems seem to be occurring at odd times (a lot at night, before I am going to sleep), and have just started happening (I also recently made the upgrade from the latest version of GB to 4.0.4). I have had this device for about a year now (the second device, the first one had a physical design flaw and was replaced), and I am out of warranty right now, so any help would be appreciated!

a_p3rson said:
Hello all!
I have noticed that recently, my phone has been doing a very odd thing while charging. When it has been plugged in for a little while, and the screen is on and in use, sometimes the phone will crash. When it crashes in this manner, the backlight on the screen is turned on on full brightness, the screen gets a yellowish hue, and horizontal black bars start appearing on the screen. More black bars keep appearing until I reset the phone (hold the power button), and then there is no evidence of any screen problems. I also generally have to unplug it for a while, as if this happens once, it generally happens multiple times until I unplug the phone and wait. These problems seem to be occurring at odd times (a lot at night, before I am going to sleep), and have just started happening (I also recently made the upgrade from the latest version of GB to 4.0.4). I have had this device for about a year now (the second device, the first one had a physical design flaw and was replaced), and I am out of warranty right now, so any help would be appreciated!
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That was happening to me (for a weird reason, my devicewas new, its seems that problem is more common in the rogers version dont know why) but, if your problem is the same problem that i had, then, just install stock ICS with oneclick (dont remember the name very well)

lorddavid said:
That was happening to me (for a weird reason, my devicewas new, its seems that problem is more common in the rogers version dont know why) but, if your problem is the same problem that i had, then, just install stock ICS with oneclick (dont remember the name very well)
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Superoneclick? That's the closest I found, and it doesn't say that it supports the Glide. And, I am running a fully stock version of 4.0.4, unrooted and everything. I might need a little more help here, haha.

I mean, oneclick, is the firmware,and is about 700 mb, give me amoment a will search it
EDit: i found it: http://www.androidauthority.com/captivate-glide-sgh-i927-att-android-4-0-4-ics-uclg9-leak-110365/
I use that, when I install it, that problem gone away, try it. And then, you can flash the custom recovery and install custom roms

lorddavid said:
I mean, oneclick, is the firmware,and is about 700 mb, give me amoment a will search it
EDit: i found it: http://www.androidauthority.com/captivate-glide-sgh-i927-att-android-4-0-4-ics-uclg9-leak-110365/
I use that, when I install it, that problem gone away, try it. And then, you can flash the custom recovery and install custom roms
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Isn't that a different version though? The build number on that is UCLG9, not UCKJ3 (which is what I have right now).

I am not sure, but, if with that your problem persist, maybe is hardware, but I only do that. When I did it, that was the latest version, now there is another version but not sure what is it

I was having the same problem, except it was happening frequently after my phone had warmed up due to normal use. If the phone was already hot it wouldn't even get past the splash screen.
I put it down to hardware fault, and was successful in getting it replaced under warranty. The new one has been totally fine.
Hopefully yours isn't a hardware issue - but from how it sounds it very well could be

davidpartay said:
I was having the same problem, except it was happening frequently after my phone had warmed up due to normal use. If the phone was already hot it wouldn't even get past the splash screen.
I put it down to hardware fault, and was successful in getting it replaced under warranty. The new one has been totally fine.
Hopefully yours isn't a hardware issue - but from how it sounds it very well could be
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I really was hoping it was a OS issue, as it hadn't ever done this on GB. If I flash a new rom then, it would be fixed?
Also, I too noticed that my phone is abnormally warm when it does this. I do have a cover on my phone, but I noticed that it seems to be centered about on the horizontal center of the phone, about a half-inch below the camera. If this is related, what do you think it is?

My phone did this as well. Luckily it happened just before I rooted. The att guys said it was a hardware fault and that fault also killed my battery. I'm assuming it was a short. It started as something infrequent, but it eventually escalated to the point the second I turned it on my screen turned completely green and got really hot.

Exxon02 said:
My phone did this as well. Luckily it happened just before I rooted. The att guys said it was a hardware fault and that fault also killed my battery. I'm assuming it was a short. It started as something infrequent, but it eventually escalated to the point the second I turned it on my screen turned completely green and got really hot.
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Just great, a possible hardware problem while out of warranty. Did yours do it only when charging as well?

a_p3rson said:
Just great, a possible hardware problem while out of warranty. Did yours do it only when charging as well?
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Didn't have to be charging to do it. Could have been on the street holding it. (I was on GB as well)

Exxon02 said:
Didn't have to be charging to do it. Could have been on the street holding it. (I was on GB as well)
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Your issue sounds similar, but slightly different. Mine only happens while I am charging it, and it has only done it since a while after I made the upgrade to 4.0.4. Although, they sound similar, and my phone also gets concerningly warm, so I have no idea if it is the same thing or not...

If it's out of warranty, then you have nothing to lose by doing a backup and a clean ROM installation, which is what I would do. I guess if you do it when fully charged and while the phone is cold you should be fairly safe, especially if you use a small ROM. I've found the latest M3 10.1 ROM installs fairly quickly, so that might be worth a shot even just to see if it fixes the problem.
The only risk you're taking is that the phone might die and get bricked in the process if it's a hardware fault, so I guess it's really your call.
EDIT: On that thought, perhaps experiment with seeing if you can charge after leaving it in the fridge for about 15 minutes? It's a trick we used to use to recover data from failing hard drives, if you get them cold enough they can work for long enough to get away with things

davidpartay said:
On that thought, perhaps experiment with seeing if you can charge after leaving it in the fridge for about 15 minutes? It's a trick we used to use to recover data from failing hard drives, if you get them cold enough they can work for long enough to get away with things
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I like that idea, as it should fix the overheating issue. However, the times that it actually has this malady aren't regular - it seems to happen more at night, but not every night. I could try putting it in the freezer when it does it though, and see if it works. If it is overheating, could it be a hardware issue then? I also noticed that my battery that I have in my phone does appear to have a slight dent near the bottom, and it is only happening when it is charging, so I am wondering if it could be a problem with the battery? When I pull the battery out after it has done this, the battery itself isn't that warm, but the phone is, so I'm thinking it isn't the battery, but does anyone else have any ideas?

Black Screen, phone still works?

Hello XDA members, this time I'm writing to all of you to tell you something that happened to my Optimus G E987 from Claro Argentina, also, to ask you something related to the topic.
I bought this phone about 4-5 months ago, and I have taken really good care of it, without using any film protection or case, it was working perfect and with not a single scratch on it, not even a little hit.
But then, some days ago, I decided to "protect it" a little bit, so I got one of this:
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I used it like.. dunno, 3-4 days. One night, my phone was on 53% battery, to lazy to charge it so I just let it like that. Next day I gave it some use, so it dropped to 33% of battery life, I had to go work so I turned it off. When I finished, I tried to turn it on again, but nothing happened, tried more times and nothing, then I noticed I liiiitle light in the screen, the phone was turned on, but with REALLY low visibility, almost everything black but with a little of sight.
I though it was just a battery problem, so I charged it, but to my surprise, nothing happened, well something did happen, the little bit of sight that I had just went full black with no visibility. I noticed that the touch screen and buttons actually worked, I could "easily" navigate through the phone by just using it as normal, but without seeing (you can do this by just knowing your phone a bit).
And that's the story, basically, after using that case, the phone "casually" stopped working properly, all I got was a functionally phone with a black screen.
I managed to connect it to my pc through wifi and launched Android Screen Cast, to see what was happening on my phone. The glow was at 100% (I tried changing it) and everything seemed normal.
If you don't want to read, here is a TL;DR
>Bought Magnetic* Flip Stand Leather Wallet Case for Optimus G
>Some days after, phone screen stopped working (phone was still normally working, just with a full black screen)
About the Magnetic thing.. is there any possibility that this was the problem? the magnetic thing?
Btw, I sent the phone to tech service because it was still on warranty and they have me a new one, now I'm scared of putting it again in the leather case I bought, I don't want this to happen again.
Something to comment? hope you can give me some advice, thanks in advance!

Also having similar problems as you. Somehow, i am quite sure its the stock rom causing the problem.

Had the very same issue few weeks ago, had to send the phone back to LG ( who replaced the motherboard :/).
I was also on stock rom, had root and unlock bootloader (of course I clean all that **** before sending it back).
For my part, I was unable to go to recovery and download mode was quit impossible to access (may be my finger fault )
BUT! some time if I let the phone off for a moment or spam the power key, the backlight turn back on until I power down the phone, so it's could be a software issue ...
Anyway, an other info, when the backlight was off, if i tried to change backlight level i was getting a error message about overeating or something like that...

Very Confused (Bricked)

Ok, so i'll start of by saying rougly 6 months ago I bought an unlocked T999V with a flashed ROM which was liquidsmooth 4.3 I believe. The phone worked perfectly fine up until a week ago. The phone was dropped off a desk and landed on its screen, nothing was broken so I thought nothing of it. The night afterwards I noticed a few darkish spots when I would look at the phone at night, only if the background was dark though (setting menu for example). The phone was plugged in when I went to turn it on and it wouldn't. Its unresponsive and I am unable to put it into DL or recovery mode. Leading me to believe its hard bricked and will need a jtag fix. But WHY? Why did dropping my phone all of a sudden mess up my screen as well as brick my phone ? Someone please help me out here :crying::crying:

yoimbeast said:
Ok, so i'll start of by saying rougly 6 months ago I bought an unlocked T999V with a flashed ROM which was liquidsmooth 4.3 I believe. The phone worked perfectly fine up until a week ago. The phone was dropped off a desk and landed on its screen, nothing was broken so I thought nothing of it. The night afterwards I noticed a few darkish spots when I would look at the phone at night, only if the background was dark though (setting menu for example). The phone was plugged in when I went to turn it on and it wouldn't. Its unresponsive and I am unable to put it into DL or recovery mode. Leading me to believe its hard bricked and will need a jtag fix. But WHY? Why did dropping my phone all of a sudden mess up my screen as well as brick my phone ? Someone please help me out here :crying::crying:
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Are you comfortable opening the device? There's a chance the fall didn't necessarily damage anything, but knocked very important cables loose. I would check every cable connection on the motherboard, and check the battery prongs, as they may not be making good contact causing dead battery. Are you getting absolutely no response from the pc when connected?
Anyway, point is, checking the connections is the easiest thing to do- and you might be able to determine if anything else is loose (ie did it land on the power button and now it's stuck? Etc) It's likely something simple- so check that first, then you can move on to other diagnostics.

The Fall damaged Digitizer. Hence the dark spots. As to unresponsiveness, remove battery and then try. If it still does not work then Power button might be stuck or has loose wires.

I don't know I thought dark spots in a dark room on a dark background were norm for this type of screen- I have them too on a brand new led assembly. Google suggests that's normal and not necessarily damage, although it could be if they're appearing under normal lighting conditions. I agree with everything else though
Wonder if s/he got it worked out?

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I don't know I thought dark spots in a dark room on a dark background were norm for this type of screen- I have them too on a brand new led assembly. Google suggests that's normal and not necessarily damage, although it could be if they're appearing under normal lighting conditions. I agree with everything else though
Wonder if s/he got it worked out?
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I brought it into a repair shop and was told the EMMC(?) chip was most likely bad and the phone needed a reflow. I put it in my oven and tried the reflow but no luck, I ended up buying a new T999 as I was quite happy with my first one.

Glad you now have a working device