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Hi folks,
I'm stumped on this one, wondering if anyone has seen similar issues or has any ideas.
Basically, many videos will playback with extreme stutter over wireless. I've tried every video player I can think of and I've also tried alternate sources (NAS vs desktop share). The reason I know this is only a wireless problem is I have no issues with identical clips once I copy them to a USB and play them using an OTG cable.
I thought at first it was a question of bandwidth, but I'm on wireless N and the problem persists on even a 640x480 .avi file @ 1250kbps, which wireless N should be able to handle.
Any thoughts, ideas, or suggestions? Thanks in advance!
TLDR: Many video clips stutter only when played from a wireless source.
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I'm experiencing this problem to when streaming videos from the interwebz, opening them in MXPlayer.
Does anyone have a clue what this might be caused by?
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weird, i can't play youtube videos, stutters, not sure if if its the device cuz i have fast wifi connection speed, 150Mbps connection it says on my 5ghz N router
im thinking its device wifi hardware issue and not my actual home wifi network
Bump again. Find it hard to imagine nobody else is having this problem.
The stuttering is due to Google's poor implementation of video playback in the new youtube app. Uninstall all updates and use the stock youtube app for a better playback experience sans stutter.
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amdfanTO said:
The stuttering is due to Google's poor implementation of video playback in the new youtube app. Uninstall all updates and use the stock youtube app for a better playback experience sans stutter.
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I don't have problems with Youtube though. Let me reiterate:
Using the same exact videos and apps:
Play a video saved to my NAS or a Windows share via wireless - playback that stutters
Play a video saved to a USB flash drive using USB OTG - playback is fine
Again, this happens even with a 1250kbps video over wireless-N, so I don't believe throughput is an issue. I get 35mbps up 21mbps down on speedtest.net over my Nexus 7's wireless.
Just a suggestion, but try your video on some other network to isolate to a Nexus problem or something else.
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Just a suggestion, but try your video on some other network to isolate to a Nexus problem or something else.
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Thanks, this is a good idea. I'll try a couple WAP networks at work tomorrow and report back.
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Just a suggestion, but try your video on some other network to isolate to a Nexus problem or something else.
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I tried today using two different WAPs and the problem still persists. Any other ideas?
The only thing I can think of is to try a system reset. Be careful to back up your music/pictures etc.
OK, new development on this. Not sure why I didn't think of trying this before, but I did some testing with my 2012 Nexus 7. Has the exact same problem as my 2013 Nexus 7.
So at this point I'd have to think this is Android related and not hardware or environment related. Some sort of issue with passing data between the wireless hardware and the rest of the OS.
Thoughts?
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Can you provide a little more information please? When you say you are playing it via network using the MX Player, are you supplying MX a stream url? or you simply browse to the LAN share via a file explorer and try to play the video directly?
Did you try changing the decoders in MX Player? HW/HW+/SW? HW+ works perfectly for me on Nexus 7 2013.
720p and 1080p worked just fine over network with my Nexus 7 (TP-Link 1043ND so nothing special, same old 2.4GHz N network) ..
psychedelicNerd said:
Can you provide a little more information please? When you say you are playing it via network using the MX Player, are you supplying MX a stream url? or you simply browse to the LAN share via a file explorer and try to play the video directly?
Did you try changing the decoders in MX Player? HW/HW+/SW? HW+ works perfectly for me on Nexus 7 2013.
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I'm browsing to the LAN share using ES File Explorer and using that to play from the shares. Do you suggest something different?
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I'm browsing to the LAN share using ES File Explorer and using that to play from the shares. Do you suggest something different?
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I have had great success with DLNA media servers. I have PS3 Media Server (totally free) installed on my server pc. My Nexus 7 has BubbleUpnP which picks up PS3 media server flawlessly. BubbleUpNp is by far one of the best UpNp and DLNA client and server I have seen till date for android device (just my humble opinion). I have set MXPlayer as the default player in BubbleUpnP settings. I can browse and play anything, and its without a stutter.
Here are the details of my setup:
-- PS3 media server installed on
-- BubbleUpnP installed on Nexus 7
-- MX Player installed on Nexus 7
That's all it takes. I have taken this setup a step further for my own needs. I store movies on my Nexus 7 since I travel in the subway and I like to watch movies on the go. Now I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and depending on where I am, I switch devices while watching movies. I would start a movie on one device and resume on the other, without actually having to store the video in both the devices. I tether a connection from my S3 and my Nexus 7 connects to the hotspot. I run BubbleUpnP on both Nexus and S3. The Nexus 7 acts as a server and sees the S3 as a client (renderer). I stream movies from my Nexus 7 to my S3. Tested with 720p movies and the result is flawless. No quality loss. Sometimes there is a momentary stutter but it goes away. It depends on how the video is ripped too.
You really don't need the S3 and N7 setup details. i just wanted to share it. Sorry for the long post. Hope it helps.
I'm not sure what I should be looking for but I am after a device that a could connect to the HDMI port on my TV and sync videos music pictures internet pages both from my phone and internet via phone so I just need help in the right direction please thanks
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I'm not sure what I should be looking for but I am after a device that a could connect to the HDMI port on my TV and sync videos music pictures internet pages both from my phone and internet via phone so I just need help in the right direction please thanks
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Miracast...
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...t-everything-to-know-about-mirroring-android/
I've heard rumours that miracast is quite laggy
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I've heard rumours that miracast is quite laggy
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Well of course its laggy, you're streaming a 1080p signal to your TV. An expectation of no latency is futle. However I have heard this device is the best one for gaming. Seems to have the lowest latency. Can't speak from personal experience though.
http://www.actiontec.com/products/63.php
I've had my Nexus 7 since Christmas. While I really like it, I still am VERY disappointed in it (in)ability to handle video output. Has there been ANY developments since Christmas in fixing this huge flaw? Any new hardware that will make viewing a movie from the Nexus to a TV acceptable? Any software that will improve the situation? I really am disappointed that I still have to watch videos through my Kindle (which I WAS planning to give to my daughter). I did buy a converter cord that was suggested here, but it's somewhat mediocre; odd "static" flashes, odd over-bright colors.
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I've had my Nexus 7 since Christmas. While I really like it, I still am VERY disappointed in it (in)ability to handle video output. Has there been ANY developments since Christmas in fixing this huge flaw? Any new hardware that will make viewing a movie from the Nexus to a TV acceptable? Any software that will improve the situation? I really am disappointed that I still have to watch videos through my Kindle (which I WAS planning to give to my daughter). I did buy a converter cord that was suggested here, but it's somewhat mediocre; odd "static" flashes, odd over-bright colors.
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Chromecast with, BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA or AllCast or LocalCast Media 2 Chromecast.
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Chromecast with, BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA or AllCast or LocalCast Media 2 Chromecast.
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Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I spend a great deal of my time in an area with extremely erratic internet. I simply can't use the internet to stream, so a hard wire is required. I bought a Patuoxun Slimport MyDP, which "works", but the quality is pretty mediocre. Static, hesitancy. I was hoping that there was some sort of new hardware that kept things smooth and consistent. My old Kindle Fire HD had a much better output quality (although not perfect). Hoping to at least match it on my Nexus.
rebecker said:
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I spend a great deal of my time in an area with extremely erratic internet. I simply can't use the internet to stream, so a hard wire is required. I bought a Patuoxun Slimport MyDP, which "works", but the quality is pretty mediocre. Static, hesitancy. I was hoping that there was some sort of new hardware that kept things smooth and consistent. My old Kindle Fire HD had a much better output quality (although not perfect). Hoping to at least match it on my Nexus.
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Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
Yeah, those chinese dongles knock-offs are not the best deal, I have heard the best from people using the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG
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Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
Yeah, those chinese dongles knock-offs are not the best deal, I have heard the best from people using the real thing: http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort®-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG
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Thanks again. A fairly outrageous price for a connector, don't you think. Looks like my Nexus experience will be short. I'll probably go back to my Kindle. Live and learn.
rebecker said:
Thanks again. A fairly outrageous price for a connector, don't you think. Looks like my Nexus experience will be short. I'll probably go back to my Kindle. Live and learn.
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Well, you get what you pay for.
Did you see the part about those apps not using internet? They use the local lan, they don't even need internet (other than for installing them initially/license checks).
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Actually, it uses your wireless LAN bandwidth, not internet.
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Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works? And is this possible using a Roku instead of a Chromecast (I own a Roku unit).
Thanks.
rebecker said:
Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works?
Thanks.
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Right, it's local, it gets the video from your device over your wireless router, to the chromecast, internet does not come into play at all.
Do you have a wireless router (aka wifi)? If so then all you do is set up the chromecast to attach to it, then have your N7 connect to the same wifi network, then your N7 can send to the chromecast directly, with the help of one of those apps.
If you do not have wifi access point or router, then you will of course have to buy one, initially you will need internet to get the apps and stuff, but once it's setup you can play movies/ pics/ music that is on your N7 directly to your chromecast on your TV.
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Can you explain this to me? Are you saying that the connection is "local"? So, if I have a movie on my Nexus and want to "broadcast" it to my TV through Chromecast, is the signal NOT uploading and then downloading via the internet? Because I cannot use the internet where I live part time to stream; the connection is way too slow. Can you explain how "wireless LAN" is setup and how it works? And is this possible using a Roku instead of a Chromecast (I own a Roku unit).
Thanks.
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if you don't have a chromecast but happen to have a PS3 or Xbox 360 you can use Skifta/Bubble UPNP to stream files from your tablet to your console to watch on tv, I use Skifta and it works flawlessly on my ps3 as mdamaged said above, no need to internet to come into play, just your local network so internet issues won't affect it :good:
as for your Roku player, they have an app to do exactly that, stream straight to it but for some reason apparently doesn't support N7 2013, but supports the 2012 version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roku.remote
DrRuckingFetard said:
if you don't have a chromecast but happen to have a PS3 or Xbox 360 you can use Skifta/Bubble UPNP to stream files from your tablet to your console to watch on tv, I use Skifta and it works flawlessly on my ps3 as mdamaged said above, no need to internet to come into play, just your local network so internet issues won't affect it :good:
as for your Roku player, they have an app to do exactly that, stream straight to it but for some reason apparently doesn't support N7 2013, but supports the 2012 version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roku.remote
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I downloaded the app you listed above. It now lists N7 2013 as compatible. I could get the pictures and music functions to work, but not videos. I have access to a massive legal catalog of MKV and MP4 movies. However, when I tried to play either type via the software I get a message that the movies are incompatible with the Roku. I guess my next move will be to borrow someones Chromecast and try it. Life shouldn't be this hard.
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I downloaded the app you listed above. It now lists N7 2013 as compatible. I could get the pictures and music functions to work, but not videos. I have access to a massive legal catalog of MKV and MP4 movies. However, when I tried to play either type via the software I get a message that the movies are incompatible with the Roku. I guess my next move will be to borrow someones Chromecast and try it. Life shouldn't be this hard.
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Well this Massive LEGAL collection of MKVs and mp4s are stored on what? A computer or hopefully not a hdd plugged into a router?
BrianDigital said:
Well this Massive LEGAL collection of MKVs and mp4s are stored on what? A computer or hopefully not a hdd plugged into a router?
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Not sure I understand your question. When I want to watch a movie, I simply copy it to my Nexus and watch it on my TV. The issue is quality from the nexus to the TV.
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Not sure I understand your question. When I want to watch a movie, I simply copy it to my Nexus and watch it on my TV. The issue is quality from the nexus to the TV.
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i am asking due to you seem to have a ps3 or roku on your network. If the movies files are stored on your computer, you can share the movie folder on your network so the ps3 or roku can see them..
Then you can simply from your tv find the movie you want to watch and leave the nexus 7 out of this
BrianDigital said:
i am asking due to you seem to have a ps3 or roku on your network. If the movies files are stored on your computer, you can share the movie folder on your network so the ps3 or roku can see them..
Then you can simply from your tv find the movie you want to watch and leave the nexus 7 out this senrio
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Thanks for your reply. I do have a Roku. Any chance you can point me to info on setting this up? My major goal is to avoid any internet streaming; need a direct network connection.
rebecker said:
Thanks for your reply. I do have a Roku. Any chance you can point me to info on setting this up? My major goal is to avoid any internet streaming; need a direct network connection.
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Just a heads up here. You can buy a slim port for less than 30$ here:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-HDMI-Adapter-Connect-enabled/dp/B00DWGB6CU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393867107&sr=1-2&keywords=slimport
I think the difference between this one and the other one linked earlier is the model difference (SP1002 vs SP1003 here) which could be a newer version of the same product.
Also if you search for something that can stream to your roku, you can try allcast here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.cast&hl=en
There's a limitation on the free version but if it works great on your device, you can buy the full version for 5 bucks I think.
Hope it helps.
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Just a heads up here. You can buy a slim port for less than 30$ here:
http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-HDMI-Adapter-Connect-enabled/dp/B00DWGB6CU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1393867107&sr=1-2&keywords=slimport
I think the difference between this one and the other one linked earlier is the model difference (SP1002 vs SP1003 here) which could be a newer version of the same product.
Also if you search for something that can stream to your roku, you can try allcast here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.cast&hl=en
There's a limitation on the free version but if it works great on your device, you can buy the full version for 5 bucks I think.
Hope it helps.
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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I use plex server and its app on my roku, it streams over the LAN. You'd setup the server on your laptop or PC (dual core or better recommended and 2 gigs or more of ram), and set it up, install the roku app, and it'll find the plex server on the network and you can play through that. BubbleUPNP works similarly in that it has a server (paid) that transcodes (like plex server) to allow more formats than the chromecast can accept directly.
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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For gods sakes to use Plex you do not need INTERNET to stream your movies around your house.
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rebecker said:
Thanks for your response. Yes, I saw the Slimport. Tempting.
I tried AllCast. Doesn't handle several formats well. Couldn't use it.
I think the ideal solution would be some sort of Roku app that would allow DIRECT interface with my laptop or Nexus via my router. Since my internet speed is too slow for streaming, I can't use an app like Plex, for instance, to view movies on my laptop/Nexus. I just looked at Plex; very nice concept, but can't figure out a way to avoid using the internet.
I borrowed a ChromeCast stick today. Will try that with AllCast and other apps on my nexus and see what happens.
I appreciate ALL input!
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none of the options both I and everyone else has suggested USE THE INTERNET. If you pull out your DSL connection from your modem/router, you still have a local network connection between devices via your router, and all the apps we have suggested will work perfectly. Your ISP speed has absolutely nothing to do with what you want to do.
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For gods sakes to use Plex you do not need INTERNET to stream your movies around your house.
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Yes, I now know this after some experimentation. Thanks for the response.
Has anyone checked the bandwidth used on the fire tv .. especially netflix.
Mine is not working to my satisfaction, netflix on my PC on the same network streams at 3000kbps consistently while on fire tv it stays at 1000kpbs leaving it looking second rate at best.
Is there a trick to make it work or is it just not a very good device for netflix.
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Has anyone checked the bandwidth used on the fire tv .. especially netflix.
Mine is not working to my satisfaction, netflix on my PC on the same network streams at 3000kbps consistently while on fire tv it stays at 1000kpbs leaving it looking second rate at best.
Is there a trick to make it work or is it just not a very good device for netflix.
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You using a netflix app? Maybe it doesn't do the better connection.
For example, the UFC app say it's sending 800kbs streams to my AFTV, but it's not, the crap is so blocky I think I'm watching an illegal streaming of some UFC matches . My guess is that it think since it's a mobile app, no one needs a decent 720p stream, and like the UFC app, I'm getting around a 240p stream, if that.
I assume your AFTV is running a wired internet connection? Like the PC? If not, then you might want to also check that nothing else is using the wifi connection at the same time, because that can mess up wifi speeds.
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You using a netflix app? Maybe it doesn't do the better connection.
For example, the UFC app say it's sending 800kbs streams to my AFTV, but it's not, the crap is so blocky I think I'm watching an illegal streaming of some UFC matches . My guess is that it think since it's a mobile app, no one needs a decent 720p stream, and like the UFC app, I'm getting around a 240p stream, if that.
I assume your AFTV is running a wired internet connection? Like the PC? If not, then you might want to also check that nothing else is using the wifi connection at the same time, because that can mess up wifi speeds.
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Thanks, I am using wired connection yeah, same router as PC. Using the netflix app that came with the fire tv.
I really hope I am not the only one with this issue. I recently purchased the official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable and noticed that when streaming YouTube or any other video through the regular web browser the audio cuts out and back in every few minutes. Although it is something I can live with it is rather annoying. Is this a known issue with this tablet?
Doesn't happen with my generic eBay cable, so no.
Get yourself a chromecast and do away with silly wires.
Thanks for the quick reply!
My Wifi kinda sucks so unfortunately Chromecast won't do me much good. I'm going to try a factory reset and if that doesn't work I'll have to return the tablet.
Maybe try a different browser or use semper vidlinks or vget to stream online videos through a media player, highly recommend mxplayer for this. As for you tube I would use the app not the browser.
Yea I think the YouTube app works, but I don't want to deal with ads (also don't want to root while under warranty)
I tried both Dolphin (adblock plugin) and NoChromo which blocks ads by default, audio still cuts out for about a second every so often.
Give vget and mxplayer a go. You can also use web video caster to do the same thing. Between the 2 almost any online video is playable via mxplayer.
So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?
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So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?
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You need to make sure that you are on the page where the playable video that you want is. Semper vidlinks is good for extracting links from web pages.
Try the page below it contains several different types that should all play with vget or web video caster.
http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html
Open the page then select share from the menu options in your browser, select vget, you should see the orange download arrow for each video link. Click any then select mxplayer.
For web video caster, do the same but when clicking the video link, select options then open with.
I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!
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I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!
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Your router? Does that mean you are streaming media to your device and then to your TV via mhl? Have you tried playing a media file direct from your device to the TV?
No just streaming media on the tablet and hooking it up to the TV using the MHL cable. I don't know what else to do, I tested my Galaxy S5 and it plays fine, so I know it's not the cables.
EDIT: Yes videos stored locally on the tablet play fine on the TV, the problem only occurs when streaming anything.
How is the tablet connecting to your router, 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
Doesn't your TV support dlna? Most modern tv's do.
I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing
spartasr said:
I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing
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Sometimes it helps to switch bands and/or Wi-Fi channels as interference can affect the connection.
Look at your tablet Wi-Fi settings it will tell you which band it is connected to.
Yea I changed channels a while ago and I also changed both DNS' to google's
How are you streaming to your tablet, which app are you using? Does the streamed media play OK on your tablet?
All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.
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All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.
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So it's the same playing on your tablet even without mhl?
Sorry had to do a quick test, videos play fine when not connected to the TV. Could it be an incompatibility issue between the TV and/or Soundbar? I know the cables are good because I tested my phone.
So the issue is tab to TV? Have you tried any lower definition movies?
Also does music play OK on its own or still stutter?