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Unbricking My Kindle Fire

About 3 weeks ago, I bricked my Kindle Fire. It was a "spare" that I had, so I started messing around with it. Got TWRP installed, downloaded a couple of ROMS, and attempted to install them. (fortunately, I made a backup of my base Amazon 6.2)
To make a long story short, the fire got stuck. I was able to adb and various other things on this forum to keep things going, but after a while, Kindle Fire Utility (adb, nothing) could see the device. I thought for sure I had an expensive paper weight.
Enter the factory cable. Because SkOrPn was in the middle of a move, my cable didn't get here right away. Then there were some issues with my PayPal address, which SkOrPn went out of his way to fix. Today, I got the cable at my office.
Looked at the cable. Thought I had been send an unmodified cable. Saw no evidence that anything had been done to the cable. An absolutely perfect professional job.
Couldn't wait to get home. Got home. Plugged cable in Fire, then in Laptop. Nothing. Now what? I thought it was supposed to boot the bootloader? adb didn't see the device. Drivers good, it sees my other Fire. I guess I was one of those 1% that hard brick the fire with no chance of getting it back.
Did a few searched on the forum. Found how to install TWRP on my device. I thought I had it already? Ran the commands. Nothing. Switched to regular cable. Nothing. I figured I was screwed. I unplugged the Fire. connected the factory cable. Ran the command. THEN hooked up the cable. JOY JOY JOY!! i GOT TWRP loaded!!!!
Restored my previously saved image, and now I have a working Kindle Fire. NOW i'm going to install some other ROM on it.
The moral is, never give up. Buy a factory cable!!! One of the things I've ever spent $15 or so on. And I recommend SkOrPn as your source. Quality work, great customer service!!!
Step-by-step
1) Make sure you have some charge left in your bricked Kindle. (one of my mistakes
2) Download "Kindle Fire Utility" or other utility that has the fastboot.exe command available.
3) Download twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img (just google it)
4) Without connecting anything, run the command:
fastboot.exe -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
5) Connect the factory cable to your Kindle Fire
6) Connect the factory cable to you PC
7) Wait about 10 seconds.
8) DONE!!!!
Sorry for the long post. My wife doesn't understand why this would make me so excited. But you all would, I'm sure.
SteveM

a very nice post for people who have bricked their kindles and need a factory cable!

Thanks for the kind words Steve. I hope this cable gives you confidence in flashing your Kindle long into the future. Glad it worked out for you.
Oh, and you did not see any evidence of modification because I do not modify the cable, I just cut off the original micro connector and install my own, already modified of course with a resistor and all I have to do is re-solder the 4 wires back onto their original pins and then fill the entire casing with 400 degree SureBonder PDR Hot Glue (the worlds strongest known hot glue, according to them anyway lol)... That way it looks and feels like a true manufactured store bought cable. However, doing it my way is still in fact more work, but the end result clearly justifies it.
Anyway, again glad I could be of service to you and my fellow XDA friends.

Where do I run the command from?

The3rdEye said:
Where do I run the command from?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747804&postcount=3

smoen02 said:
About 3 weeks ago, I bricked my Kindle Fire. It was a "spare" that I had, so I started messing around with it. Got TWRP installed, downloaded a couple of ROMS, and attempted to install them. (fortunately, I made a backup of my base Amazon 6.2)
To make a long story short, the fire got stuck. I was able to adb and various other things on this forum to keep things going, but after a while, Kindle Fire Utility (adb, nothing) could see the device. I thought for sure I had an expensive paper weight.
Enter the factory cable. Because SkOrPn was in the middle of a move, my cable didn't get here right away. Then there were some issues with my PayPal address, which SkOrPn went out of his way to fix. Today, I got the cable at my office.
Looked at the cable. Thought I had been send an unmodified cable. Saw no evidence that anything had been done to the cable. An absolutely perfect professional job.
Couldn't wait to get home. Got home. Plugged cable in Fire, then in Laptop. Nothing. Now what? I thought it was supposed to boot the bootloader? adb didn't see the device. Drivers good, it sees my other Fire. I guess I was one of those 1% that hard brick the fire with no chance of getting it back.
Did a few searched on the forum. Found how to install TWRP on my device. I thought I had it already? Ran the commands. Nothing. Switched to regular cable. Nothing. I figured I was screwed. I unplugged the Fire. connected the factory cable. Ran the command. THEN hooked up the cable. JOY JOY JOY!! i GOT TWRP loaded!!!!
Restored my previously saved image, and now I have a working Kindle Fire. NOW i'm going to install some other ROM on it.
The moral is, never give up. Buy a factory cable!!! One of the things I've ever spent $15 or so on. And I recommend SkOrPn as your source. Quality work, great customer service!!!
Step-by-step
1) Make sure you have some charge left in your bricked Kindle. (one of my mistakes
2) Download "Kindle Fire Utility" or other utility that has the fastboot.exe command available.
3) Download twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img (just google it)
4) Without connecting anything, run the command:
fastboot.exe -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
5) Connect the factory cable to your Kindle Fire
6) Connect the factory cable to you PC
7) Wait about 10 seconds.
8) DONE!!!!
Sorry for the long post. My wife doesn't understand why this would make me so excited. But you all would, I'm sure.
SteveM
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Hi there,
Where should I run that command from??
Here´s my case, I hope you could help me..
I need urgent help. Just got my kindle todasy and went through tutorial to use the rooting utitily. My kindle got stuck at loading screen and wouldn´t shut shutdown. I waited until the battery ran out. Waited for few more minutes and plugged in the data cable. The kindle now won´t stop blinking and does not get reckgonized by the pc. I did waited for the battery goes dead again, recharged then for about 30 min and nothing has changed. The loading screen keeps blinking and nothing seems to be happening. Please advise!!

andersonrel said:
Hi there,
Where should I run that command from??
Here´s my case, I hope you could help me..
I need urgent help. Just got my kindle todasy and went through tutorial to use the rooting utitily. My kindle got stuck at loading screen and wouldn´t shut shutdown. I waited until the battery ran out. Waited for few more minutes and plugged in the data cable. The kindle now won´t stop blinking and does not get reckgonized by the pc. I did waited for the battery goes dead again, recharged then for about 30 min and nothing has changed. The loading screen keeps blinking and nothing seems to be happening. Please advise!!
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Oh boy... I'm going to hope that it was a timing issue and our posts got crossed, because I answered your question for another user just above your post.
Regardless, the answer to that question isn't going to help you. You need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621146
Never let your battery die like you did. You can always force a shutdown by keeping the power button pressed down for 20-30 seconds.
EDIT: I'd been meaning to post this guide for a while...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
and I missed the part of your post about being "stuck at loading screen" the first time I read it. I suggest you read this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
make sure the device drivers are working (part 2) and learn some fastboot commands (part 3) so you can reset the bootmode on your device back to normal and reboot it.

kinfauns said:
Oh boy... I'm going to hope that it was a timing issue and our posts got crossed, because I answered your question for another user just above your post.
Regardless, the answer to that question isn't going to help you. You need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621146
Never let your battery die like you did. You can always force a shutdown by keeping the power button pressed down for 20-30 seconds.
EDIT: I'd been meaning to post this guide for a while...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
and I missed the part of your post about being "stuck at loading screen" the first time I read it. I suggest you read this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
make sure the device drivers are working (part 2) and learn some fastboot commands (part 3) so you can reset the bootmode on your device back to normal and reboot it.
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Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?

andersonrel said:
Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?
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Unfortunately, if the device isn't booting up, it won't charge. Like the guide I posted above says, the device needs to load up a ramdisk before it will charge. If all you see is that KF/Android logo, then it's still in the bootloader and it's not charging your battery.
First, you'll have to get your drivers in order so you can send the device fastboot commands. I suggest you disconnect the KF from your computer and make sure it's turned off. Use the KFU driver install file and get it to install the drivers again onto your machine. I'm not sure if it will help, but it wouldn't hurt to reboot your computer after that. When it's back up and running again, open up the device manager. When you connect the KF back up to your computer, it should automatically power up again... look at what device comes up as it boots. The first thing you see (hopefully) is "Android Phone -> Android ADB Interface" appear. If you see that, you can be reasonably sure you can send it fastboot commands.
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
There's a lot of "hopefully" things that have to go right for this to work. You've got a few compounded issues that are giving you problems and all of them have to get fixed for the battery to start charging again.

andersonrel said:
Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?
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To fix the "cannot run, adbwin.dll missing", shift + right click on the folder containing adb.exe and select something like "Run as Command"
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium

soupmagnet said:
To fix the "cannot run, adbwin.dll missing", shift + right click on the folder containing adb.exe and select something like "Run as Command"
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium
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I´m gonna try this and will post results. Thanks a lot.

kinfauns said:
Unfortunately, if the device isn't booting up, it won't charge. Like the guide I posted above says, the device needs to load up a ramdisk before it will charge. If all you see is that KF/Android logo, then it's still in the bootloader and it's not charging your battery.
First, you'll have to get your drivers in order so you can send the device fastboot commands. I suggest you disconnect the KF from your computer and make sure it's turned off. Use the KFU driver install file and get it to install the drivers again onto your machine. I'm not sure if it will help, but it wouldn't hurt to reboot your computer after that. When it's back up and running again, open up the device manager. When you connect the KF back up to your computer, it should automatically power up again... look at what device comes up as it boots. The first thing you see (hopefully) is "Android Phone -> Android ADB Interface" appear. If you see that, you can be reasonably sure you can send it fastboot commands.
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
There's a lot of "hopefully" things that have to go right for this to work. You've got a few compounded issues that are giving you problems and all of them have to get fixed for the battery to start charging again.
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I tried to connect to a different pc. It does get recognized on device manager (as kindle) for few seconds and then it dissapears again...not sure what to do now in order to charge it...any suggestions?

Hey guys thanks for all the help so far, i bricked my kindle to the point of no shell after i tried to reflash the stock rom and was stuck in no mans land. So i ordered skorpn's factory cable (thanks again for sending it up north of the border) and when i plug it into the pc it loads the "kindle fire" screen ans stays there. It shows up in device manager but not when i look for it under adb devices and device won't be found in fastboot. Tried reinstalling the drivers and still no luck. Any ideas how i can get this thing back to the point of usability? Thanks for any help you have

andersonrel said:
I tried to connect to a different pc. It does get recognized on device manager (as kindle) for few seconds and then it dissapears again...not sure what to do now in order to charge it...any suggestions?
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Fix your drivers. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671
djsaxon said:
Hey guys thanks for all the help so far, i bricked my kindle to the point of no shell after i tried to reflash the stock rom and was stuck in no mans land. So i ordered skorpn's factory cable (thanks again for sending it up north of the border) and when i plug it into the pc it loads the "kindle fire" screen ans stays there. It shows up in device manager but not when i look for it under adb devices and device won't be found in fastboot. Tried reinstalling the drivers and still no luck. Any ideas how i can get this thing back to the point of usability? Thanks for any help you have
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First, fix your drivers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671
Then:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963

kinfauns said:
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
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Well I gave this a shot and it said: "finished. total time: 0.080s"
but it's still just flashing the android logo with kindle fire underneath.

maw230 said:
Well I gave this a shot and it said: "finished. total time: 0.080s"
but it's still just flashing the android logo with kindle fire underneath.
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That's because you have an entirely different problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963

soupmagnet said:
That's because you have an entirely different problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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Thank you.

hey i can't doing that, when i type that code "fastboot..........img" cmd say <Waiting for devices> ?

jakelongryan said:
hey i can't doing that, when i type that code "fastboot..........img" cmd say <Waiting for devices> ?
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There are several reasons why you would get the typical "waiting for device" message, so...
...here is a step-by-step guide instruct you in getting it working properly, quickly and efficiently.
Step 1. Start a new thread in the Q&A section.
Step 2. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what your problem is.
Step 3. Explain in GREAT detail exactly how your problem started.
Step 4. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what you have done to remedy the situation on your own.
Step 5. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what the device does and everything you see from the moment you press the power button until the problem presents itself.
Step 6. Wait patiently until someone of appropriate knowledge is kind enough to lend a hand.

soupmagnet said:
There are several reasons why you would get the typical "waiting for device" message, so...
...here is a step-by-step guide instruct you in getting it working properly, quickly and efficiently.
Step 1. Start a new thread in the Q&A section.
Step 2. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what your problem is.
Step 3. Explain in GREAT detail exactly how your problem started.
Step 4. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what you have done to remedy the situation on your own.
Step 5. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what the device does and everything you see from the moment you press the power button until the problem presents itself.
Step 6. Wait patiently until someone of appropriate knowledge is kind enough to lend a hand.
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great advice and exactly what im gonna do. been searching for 2 weeks now reading and learning and still stuck so be looking out for my thread

[Q] Hard-Bricked Dropped Kindle Fire

TL;DR: Dropped Kindle Fire won't boot to OS or recovery, even after flashing FFF and "successfully" flashing TWRP. Broken flash chip?
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My brother gave me a non-functioning Kindle Fire from a friend of his. (FYI, I do not believe it to be stolen). When I got it, it would turn on to a static Kindle Fire logo for about a second, then the screen would get a little brighter, then go completely dead.
After derping around trying to get it to boot or be recognized (to no avail), I followed these instructions (USB boot shorting trick) to get into USB boot mode, then these instructions (Firekit bootloader and recovery installation utility) to install FFF and TWRP while the Kindle was in USB mode. Now, it boots to the yellow fire triangle, but after 10-20 seconds, it still gets a little brighter and then dies. NBD, I haven't installed a new ROM yet. However, if I press the power button again to get into recovery, the button goes orange, but then the screen gets brighter and dies again. Same happens when I try to fastboot into recovery. Firekit says sending, writing, loading, and booting recovery all worked, but the above continues to happen.
The device looks like it has been dropped; the glass on the lower edge of the screen is cracked, and it is generally scuffed and scratched around the edge. There is no visible damage to the motherboard or any components (no cracking, etc.). But these symptoms look to me like a bad flash chip. Any other thoughts?

deutschigmann said:
TL;DR: Dropped Kindle Fire won't boot to OS or recovery, even after flashing FFF and "successfully" flashing TWRP. Broken flash chip?
More Info:
My brother gave me a non-functioning Kindle Fire from a friend of his. (FYI, I do not believe it to be stolen). When I got it, it would turn on to a static Kindle Fire logo for about a second, then the screen would get a little brighter, then go completely dead.
After derping around trying to get it to boot or be recognized (to no avail), I followed these instructions (USB boot shorting trick) to get into USB boot mode, then these instructions (Firekit bootloader and recovery installation utility) to install FFF and TWRP while the Kindle was in USB mode. Now, it boots to the yellow fire triangle, but after 10-20 seconds, it still gets a little brighter and then dies. NBD, I haven't installed a new ROM yet. However, if I press the power button again to get into recovery, the button goes orange, but then the screen gets brighter and dies again. Same happens when I try to fastboot into recovery. Firekit says sending, writing, loading, and booting recovery all worked, but the above continues to happen.
The device looks like it has been dropped; the glass on the lower edge of the screen is cracked, and it is generally scuffed and scratched around the edge. There is no visible damage to the motherboard or any components (no cracking, etc.). But these symptoms look to me like a bad flash chip. Any other thoughts?
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The battery may be low... Try using the factory charger (not USB).
If that doesn't work, let me know. This sounds like an issue a lot of people are having, and maybe I could work something out with you so I can get a failing KF to debug.

Also which command did you use in firekit? Try again with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp. You may have a screwed up partition table. Since the LED changes color and the screen comes on, your first stage boot loader should be working.

pokey9000 said:
The battery may be low... Try using the factory charger (not USB).
If that doesn't work, let me know. This sounds like an issue a lot of people are having, and maybe I could work something out with you so I can get a failing KF to debug.
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We've had it plugged into a charger for a Samsung smartphone. I wasn't given an actual KF charger. Right now it's plugged into my iPad charger, which is closer to the KF charger output, but it's still USB. I'll leave it there for a bit and let you know what happens. I don't think it's a battery issue because it's had enough power to do this on/off cycle numerous times, but who knows. When plugged in, it does it again, dies, and makes no indication that it is charging or anything, just like it does with a PC. I have a multimeter, so I could check the voltage/amperage across the battery, but I don't know which wires to do lol.
pokey9000 said:
Also which command did you use in firekit? Try again with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp. You may have a screwed up partition table. Since the LED changes color and the screen comes on, your first stage boot loader should be working.
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I started with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, and then tried usb_boot_twrp, then some of the fastboot commands. I think they all said they worked at each step. The boot command always said something like 0.003 s, not sure if that is a normal time.

It's been plugged into the iPad charger for a few hours now, and the behavior has not changed.

deutschigmann said:
We've had it plugged into a charger for a Samsung smartphone. I wasn't given an actual KF charger. Right now it's plugged into my iPad charger, which is closer to the KF charger output, but it's still USB. I'll leave it there for a bit and let you know what happens. I don't think it's a battery issue because it's had enough power to do this on/off cycle numerous times, but who knows. When plugged in, it does it again, dies, and makes no indication that it is charging or anything, just like it does with a PC. I have a multimeter, so I could check the voltage/amperage across the battery, but I don't know which wires to do lol.
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Yeah, it was a crapshoot, but a few people have had some weirdnesses resolved by making sure the battery's charged. I guess the fact that you get through the TWRP install rules this out.
I started with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, and then tried usb_boot_twrp, then some of the fastboot commands. I think they all said they worked at each step. The boot command always said something like 0.003 s, not sure if that is a normal time.
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One theory I've had is that either something is being missed by the partition recreator, or there's some assumption that the emmc is blanked when the device is initially flashed. If you have no attachments to any data that might be on this Fire, you could try zeroing (or 0xFFing as erased flash would be) the flash while in TWRP (via adb). Then redo the usb_fix_parts_blah_blah which should leave you with bootloaders and recovery.
I'm not sure if this would work, but without knowing where and why the bootloader is dying I can only guess.

I just erased each partition through fastboot (fastboot erase boot, system, cache, userdata, recovery) and it seemed to work, or at least think it was working, as they each took a proportional amount of time from 2 s for boot to 118 s for userdata. Ran install_fff_twrp, it went through all the motions, then died when it tried to boot as before. Tried using the power button to get to TWRP, same thing.
Edit: Just found a list of the partitions. Went through in fastboot and deleted xloader, bootloader, dkernel, dfs, recovery, backup, boot, splash, system, userdata, cache, and media. Reran install_fff_twrp, same effect as before. Oh whoops, now it won't boot at all. Probably need to do the shorting trick again.

Hmm, I may have borked it a bit more than I intended. Right now, doing the USB trick, running usb_fix_parts... it says:
Loading FFF through USB...
?
waiting for OMAP44xx device...
I let it sit, then Ctrl+C, redid, tried again, hung after "?" and seemed unwilling to Ctrl+C, redid, hung at "waiting" again.
Edit: Did it one more time, seems to have worked (as well as earlier). Hung for a while on "Resetting bootmode to standard boot...", but it said it only took 0.079 s. Whatever the case all steps said "OKAY" and the screen got brighter, then all went dead.
Is there a way to do a full wipe of the disk through fastboot, other than doing partition-by-partition?

OK so it looks like the weird hangings and stuff were probably due to using a-port USB extender on my laptop. Tried on my desktop and everything went quickly, but the KF still died.
After all the deletions and stuff it still won't boot into recovery, but instead of dying when trying to do a normal boot, it just gets hung on the bootloader screen, and won't allow me to try to go into recovery. I'm not sure if that's better or worse. I guess it means the deletions really erased something, but then why won't it write/boot?

deutschigmann said:
Hmm, I may have borked it a bit more than I intended. Right now, doing the USB trick, running usb_fix_parts... it says:
Loading FFF through USB...
?
waiting for OMAP44xx device...
I let it sit, then Ctrl+C, redid, tried again, hung after "?" and seemed unwilling to Ctrl+C, redid, hung at "waiting" again.
Edit: Did it one more time, seems to have worked (as well as earlier). Hung for a while on "Resetting bootmode to standard boot...", but it said it only took 0.079 s. Whatever the case all steps said "OKAY" and the screen got brighter, then all went dead.
Is there a way to do a full wipe of the disk through fastboot, other than doing partition-by-partition?
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Can you still get into TWRP after the usb_fix_parts... finishes? If so, try:
adb shell
When you get a prompt, do:
tr "\000" "\377" < /dev/zero | dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
***WARNING THIS COMMAND WILL STEAL YOUR CAR AND USE YOUR
***CUPHOLDERS FOR A URINAL. IT WISHES YOUR FAMILY ILL AND IS
***RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING INDUSTRIAL WASTE IN IMPORTED PET
***FOOD. IT IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. DON'T DO THIS UNLESS YOU
***ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
It might take a few hours for this to run. At the end your flash will be fresh from the factory clean. If you hold down the power button long enough, your Fire should go into USB boot mode regardless of shorting the test point. Now try the usb_fix_parts_... again.

I wish I could, but I've never been able to get it into recovery. Just bootloader.

deutschigmann said:
I wish I could, but I've never been able to get it into recovery. Just bootloader.
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So when you run usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, it doesn't reboot into TWRP when it's done? You don't have to get it to run recovery from the flash, just run recovery at all. Unfortunately FFF doesn't know how to wipe everything at the level I described.

No, it says it does each step and gives the status OKAY, but when it tries to boot the recovery, the screen gets a little brigher and then everything dies, just like when I try to get to it using the power button.

deutschigmann said:
No, it says it does each step and gives the status OKAY, but when it tries to boot the recovery, the screen gets a little brigher and then everything dies, just like when I try to get to it using the power button.
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Does "usb_boot_twrp" work instead of usb_fix_parts...?

Nope, same result. Gets brighter, dies. Hmm...

Tried another copy of TWRP and ./fastboot boot twrp....img, same thing. Flashed TWRP 2.1.1 from another post, still dies.

Is it possible to boot to USB storage, similar to the other USB boot trick? So that I could use the linux distro's system to write to the disk?

deutschigmann said:
Is it possible to boot to USB storage, similar to the other USB boot trick? So that I could use the linux distro's system to write to the disk?
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No, unfortunately. The USB boot is part of the on-chip bootrom. It's not smart enough to do much more than boot off SD & soldered down flash chips, serial, and the simple USB device protocol.
What's making this hard is not being able to see where it's dying: is it in the kernel or in FFF? It seems like your Fire is now in the same state as everyone who was bitten by the latest CWM.

Since it had the same behavior before and after installing FFF, I feel like that's probably not it. It seemed like it likely hadn't been modded before, since it was stuck on the stock KF logo.

pokey plz make it working again the kindle is still in waiting for device
hey plz solve the firekit issue of being stuck in waiting for device issu

[q] usb boot only

Okay, I have been through this board several times and googled it, but maybe I am not searching for the right thing and I would find it hard to believe that my situation is unique. Anyways I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
On to the issue, I connected my kindle fire tried to install TWRP, but it froze and I was stuck on the Kindle Fire Logo so after exhaustive searching I went with the USB Shorting Trick, so then I was able to get TWRP up and running. The only issue is that now I can only get the kindle fire to boot up when connected via USB and using Firekit LiveUSB. One out of 25 times I can actually get it to go into ICS, but as soon as I power it off, then there is no power light and it won't reboot unless using Firekit LiveUSB.
Anybody have any ideas or solution that has worked.
Thanks in advance.

thequietone said:
Okay, I have been through this board several times and googled it, but maybe I am not searching for the right thing and I would find it hard to believe that my situation is unique. Anyways I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
On to the issue, I connected my kindle fire tried to install TWRP, but it froze and I was stuck on the Kindle Fire Logo so after exhaustive searching I went with the USB Shorting Trick, so then I was able to get TWRP up and running. The only issue is that now I can only get the kindle fire to boot up when connected via USB and using Firekit LiveUSB. One out of 25 times I can actually get it to go into ICS, but as soon as I power it off, then there is no power light and it won't reboot unless using Firekit LiveUSB.
Anybody have any ideas or solution that has worked.
Thanks in advance.
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Are you opening up the case each time you use usbboot?
What Firekit script are you using to boot the device?
What happens when it fails to fully boot in to the system?
Is your battery charged?
usbboot only loads a bootloader into memory temporarily. Once you've got the device booted, you need to flash a new bootloader permanently onto the device. I suggest FFF 1.4a...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375

usb boot only
Nope I only opened the case the one time, now it's closed and it won't boot without being plugged in and executing usb_install_fff_twrp or usb_boot_twrp. I have tried flashing with TWRP several times fff 1.4a to no avail when it goes to reboot, it won't show anything on the screen and there is no power light on, yet I know the device is working because I can connect the USB and run one of the usb scripts and it works.
I am using Firekit LiveUSB 1.1.
I am not sure how to answer the fully boot into the system since nothing happens, no power light and nothing on the screen when I attempt to turn it on.
I have flashed it several times with TWRP and I would have thought that a reboot when TWRP says it's done would have worked.
The battery is fully charged.

Get it booted temporarily disconnect the battery then reconnect it let it continue to charge via usb maybe it will correct your problem. Or replace your system with something stock like without going fully stock paul has a new release http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 good luck

usb boot only
So unplugging the battery while plugged in via USB doesn't work, however I am able to get it to boot into ICS I just have to unplug the USB right after the script says Flash FFF... That would lead me to believe it's a problem with the boot loader, but I have tried several times to flash it with fff-u-boot_v1.4a.zip with no luck.

thequietone said:
Nope I only opened the case the one time, now it's closed and it won't boot without being plugged in and executing usb_install_fff_twrp or usb_boot_twrp. I have tried flashing with TWRP several times fff 1.4a to no avail when it goes to reboot, it won't show anything on the screen and there is no power light on, yet I know the device is working because I can connect the USB and run one of the usb scripts and it works.
I am using Firekit LiveUSB 1.1.
I am not sure how to answer the fully boot into the system since nothing happens, no power light and nothing on the screen when I attempt to turn it on.
I have flashed it several times with TWRP and I would have thought that a reboot when TWRP says it's done would have worked.
The battery is fully charged.
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The fact that you are able to use those scripts indicates you are in usbboot mode (4003) or the hardware is defaulting to usbboot on its own which probably indicates that something about your bootloaders is a little off...
Try using the "fix all" script (I don't recall the exact name). This will return your partition table back to stock and then flash both the 1st and 2nd stage bootloaders.
Also try flashing FFF 1.4a again with TWRP and take note of the output it gives you if it fails.

usb boot only
Successfully ran the usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp
Then installed fff 1.4a and the output was
finding update package...
opening update package...
installing update...
FireFireFire 1.4a Originally By Pokey9000 and Modified by Hashcode
Checking sha1sum of boot loader file...
Check passed.
Attempting to Write Bootloader...
Done!
E:Cannot load volume /misc!
Did a reboot and it still only will boot back up with the USB

thequietone said:
Successfully ran the usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp
Then installed fff 1.4a and the output was
finding update package...
opening update package...
installing update...
FireFireFire 1.4a Originally By Pokey9000 and Modified by Hashcode
Checking sha1sum of boot loader file...
Check passed.
Attempting to Write Bootloader...
Done!
E:Cannot load volume /misc!
Did a reboot and it still only will boot back up with the USB
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See if you can set the bootmode back to normal and reboot it. Running as root...
Code:
usbboot /root/firekit/aboot.bin /root/firekit/u-boot.bin; fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000; fastboot reboot

usb boot only
Tried connecting to PC running UBUNTU and ran the USBBOOT command and got nothing, so I powered off and ran the command and then reconnected the cable and ran the USBBOOT command and got the <waiting for device> after the sending image to target, then few seconds later got the FAILED (remote failure)

thequietone said:
Tried connecting to PC running UBUNTU and ran the USBBOOT command and got nothing, so I powered off and ran the command and then reconnected the cable and ran the USBBOOT command and got the <waiting for device> after the sending image to target, then few seconds later got the FAILED (remote failure)
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Did you ever have Hashcode's CWM recovery installed on your device or have you always used TWRP?
Have you run those Firekit scripts again after you installed FFF 1.4a?
The only other thing I can think of is that your device's bootmode is set to USB boot and that's why it doesn't load up the bootloader already installed on your Kindle Fire. It's seems to be waiting for you to use usbboot to send it a bootloader. Get to TWRP again, flash FFF 1.4a and run these adb command to set the bootmode to 4000 and reboot...
Code:
adb shell idme bootmode 4000
adb reboot

The problem is I can't get FFF 1.4a installed. When I try to do it via TWRP which is the only utility I have tried it appears to load successfully, but when I do the reboot, the screen won't come on and there is no power light. So I hold down the power button for the 20 seconds then run the FireKit commands hook up the USB and it boots back up, but won't boot on it's own.

Have you found a fix yet? I may have a solution from my experience with mine, which was bricked beyond imaginable (don't ask how ). I was able to install FFF+TWRP and restore to stock perfectly fine.

It boots into ICS if I connect the USB cord. From there I am able to run everything, including ADB commands etc, however from trying to flash FFF 1.4a to resetting the boot mode has failed. Was even able to boot from USB with FFF 1.4a.
So the short story it's still not working. If you power off, it won't come back without the help of doing a usb boot.

thequietone said:
It boots into ICS if I connect the USB cord. From there I am able to run everything, including ADB commands etc, however from trying to flash FFF 1.4a to resetting the boot mode has failed. Was even able to boot from USB with FFF 1.4a.
So the short story it's still not working. If you power off, it won't come back without the help of doing a usb boot.
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You didn't answer the question of whether or not you've used Hashcode's CWMR.
From TWRP, run these commands...
Code:
adb shell idme ?
adb shell parted /dev/block/mmcblk0 unit b print
and paste the output here.
Also, if you can load ICS, download/install smirkit...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500935
and try to install FFF 1.4a that way. Using smirkit will raw write the bootloader image directly onto the partition.

Here is the screen shot. Couldn't get smirkit installed.

Did this ever get resolved? I am in the same boat. The only way I could get my KF to boot up was to use the USB short trick, but now, it won't let me go back to turning it on the normal way. It requires USB boot every time. Please help!!!

Still Unresolved
Nope I am still having the same issue. Right now, I just try to keep it charged hoping it won't die, because if it does then I have to USB boot to get it back up and running
dmp2007 said:
Did this ever get resolved? I am in the same boat. The only way I could get my KF to boot up was to use the USB short trick, but now, it won't let me go back to turning it on the normal way. It requires USB boot every time. Please help!!!
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shoot, I was going to flash the bootloader tonight hoping that would fix it, but it looks like you've already tried that and it didn't work. Did your, or anyone else's, happen to stop responding to touch after the usb short as well? Using USB boot, i can get to the unlock (or recovery, touch doesnt work there either), but the screen doesn't respond to my touch. I know it isn't freezing because the clock still updates.

I haven't heard of it responding to touch. Mine works perfectly except for always having to USB Boot if it dies or if someone holds down the power button too long.
QUOTE=dmp2007;28967427]shoot, I was going to flash the bootloader tonight hoping that would fix it, but it looks like you've already tried that and it didn't work. Did your, or anyone else's, happen to stop responding to touch after the usb short as well? Using USB boot, i can get to the unlock (or recovery, touch doesnt work there either), but the screen doesn't respond to my touch. I know it isn't freezing because the clock still updates.[/QUOTE]

I too get this, I've been through what feels like every thread on here about this, only a few of these show up as the 'usb boot only' though and they all end in no answer. I have tried all forms of partitioning up to and including dd'n the p1.img over top of xloader and p2.img on top of bootloader.
With usb, i can go back fully stock (however, even fully stock wont boot without usb boot.. so its got to be busted xloader or bootloader), i can get TWRP installed, any ROM and its all usable.. until as OP said.. power out or reboot needed. It's bothering me enough just wanting to fix it I keep rebreaking perfectly good installs thinking some nugget I found/missed re-reading endless posts is the one.. just in case someone else comes through with this, here are my findings:
happened to me as originally I bricked to the point had to crack it open and short it to get it to boot via usb, finally working well using liveUSB firekit. However, from that point on, would NEVER boot on its own, and would NEVER shutdown/reboot without needing 20-30s of power button molestation. perhaps this is left over issue of the pin short... dunno
Once i figured out I could usbboot, basically went on with everything as normal. recovery, roms, back to stock, back to rom, etc etc. What seemingly never works, or simply oui can never get to, is the bootloader. All indications that I have known/been able to check seem to think its iinstalling, perhaps we are just never making it to it (xloader death)
So then I went crazy and tried everything from adb/fastboot raw on Mac, windows and linux, setting bootmode to 4000 every way with every tool listed on this site possible.. no joy.. usbboot is a must. Tried zeroing the mmcblk0p1/p2 and writing good versions on top, nothing.
Current state.. if I, via adb/fastboot/twrp/recovery do a reboot or shutdown.. the kindle shuts down screen and led's only (sometimes even leaving the green power light on, but almost ALWAYS just all black, but not off) .. dmesg notes that its stuck in a usb connect/disconnect loop, with an error:
new high-speed USB device number 33 using ehci_hcd
unable to get BOS descriptor
New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=d00f
New USB device strings: Mfr=33, Product=37, SerialNumber=0
Product: OMAP4430
Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
USB disconnect, device number 33
rinse, repeat, about every 3 seconds.
As you can see, BOS descriptor can't be found.. which is just a little stupid because the port its plugged into is 2.0
bcdUSB 2.00
but maybe there is still something there? not changing any port though, usbboot has no problem.
I sniffed the traffic of the usb bus while plugging in the USB cable after shutting down via 30 second hold, and its pretty much the same thing, just bouncing the connection before it has time to get started.. so it seems to be hitting this "issue" both on shutdown/reboot and startup. As I can't really tell, with usb being the only way for me to talk to the KF, I can only assume after a hard shutdown when I push the button again its probably doing the same thing (no lights, no screen), but I can confirm once I plug in the usb and it tries to boot itself.
Only sort of difference is sometimes it can go down into the dark reboot and I am able to run usbboot and it comes back up (usb never unplugged) but its been sporadic so I haven't chased it.
At this point I just want to figure out exactly what bit needs flipped in the front somewhere so I can reboot my KF like all the cool kids so I'll probably keep hacking on this issue until I really really brick it or hopefully help comes along or I figure it out myself. One good sign is I know have completely working dev/hack environments on OSX, win7, liveusb ubuntu AND linux mint debian so, I guess that is something.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE USBBOOT ONLY PEOPLE!! one love. =P

[Q] Need Help - Bricked Kindle Fire

I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.

gwmadrigal said:
I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.
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I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.

Thepooch said:
I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.
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I have done a lot of experiments with my SGS2 about installing ROMS using ODIN or CWR, backing up my own images and making backups. Most of the work I do though is in CWR. I haven't dealt with TWR yet. I also installed ICS on my HP Touchpad. So, even though this is the first time I deal with the KF, I already some experience working with ROMS and images.
Back to the process. I installed the FFF using the Kindle Fire Utility. The KF was forced to fastboot mode via the factory cable. At first I could see on the KF splash screen with the black and orange logo, and now the KF is booting using a Black and Blue kindle fire logo with 1.4a on top. At the bottom of the splash I see instructions of the bootloader selector indicating to press the power button and select the mode that I want to boot. Either Normal Mode or Recovery Mode.
I flashed the TWRP 2.2.2.1 in fastboot mode using my command prompt by putting this code:
Code:
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery [path]\openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze.img
I was following the instructions on this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I got stuck on step 3 after attempting to boot into recovery mode.
I can select which boot mode I want to go, but none of them work. I only get on the bottom of the screen saying Booting... and then the KF shuts down.
I suspect the battery had a good level of charge, but I can't tell for sure.
Thanks for everything.

Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
Code:
fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot

soupmagnet said:
Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
Code:
fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot
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All commands were successful.
When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.

gwmadrigal said:
All commands were successful.
When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?

soupmagnet said:
What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?
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It accepts the command.
The command prompt responds saying something like it took 0. something seconds to execute the command.
Thanks for reading my thread.

If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.

soupmagnet said:
1. If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
2. If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
3. If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.
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2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.

gwmadrigal said:
2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.
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If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.

gwmadrigal said:
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When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.

Thepooch said:
I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.

soupmagnet said:
If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.
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I tried reloading the u-boot using fastboot and the upload was successful. But it's doing exactly the same.I guess my only question right now, do you know of any good guide that I should start reading to get my feet wet on what the firekit is and how to get started?
Thepooch said:
I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I have nothing to lose. This KF is already bricked. I can certainly try anything. Which cable do you suggest I use? the Factory cable or the USB cable?
I think I answered my own question now. Using a regular USB cable puts the KF in the bootloop. I will use the factory cable instead. I shut down the KF, put the factory cable connected to my computer and the KF. Right now the KF is in the KindleFire splash screen waiting for fastboot commands of for me to use the button to tell it which mode to boot. I will leave it plug overnight.
Thanks for replying on my thread and trying to help me.
soupmagnet said:
I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.
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I posted a video in utube of what the KF is doing, so you can see what I'm seeing.
Link
Thanks for coming back several times to reply on my thread.

That looks like your battery. From what I can tell, the device is just rebooting, not shutting down.
Unplug the device and hold the power button to perform a hard shutdown.
Plug the device in (it should power up on it's own) and hold the power button to shut it down again.
Leave it plugged into the computer until sometime tomorrow and try again.

Same thing I was thinking 5 second bootloop Thank you the video was very helpful to see just how its acting. Use stock cable to charge not factory.

OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.

gwmadrigal said:
OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.
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I think you're fine let it rest.

[Q] bootloop stuck, can't fastboot, need case open short instruction

Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455

lob455 said:
Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455
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Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?

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Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?
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No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".

lob455 said:
No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".
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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.

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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.
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Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.

lob455 said:
Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.
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First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
Code:
adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
Code:
adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.

Thepooch said:
First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
Code:
adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
Code:
adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.
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Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.

lob455 said:
Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.
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Android adb interface alone is a detection of fastboot composite is normal boot. This could be due to a partially broken shell try while the device is in recovery not at the bootloader your bootmode is iffy.

What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
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fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/blaze

sd_shadow said:
What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
try
fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x ..................
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Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.

lob455 said:
Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.
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I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot

When in recovery if there is no adb my first thought is driver. Two other things are possible missing or broken shell or broken recovery. I myself lean to the side of it being a driver issue. Attach your working Kindle to pc while in recovery. Type adb devices it should say 12345678 blah blah recovery. If it does not then it's your driver.

sd_shadow said:
I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot
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@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.

lob455 said:
@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Just place a Rom on your Sdcard and flash it.

lob455 said:
@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Try the mount option in twrp again

sd_shadow said:
Try the mount option in twrp again
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@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.

lob455 said:
@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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The battery will always charge in recovery. When it goes flat you end in a 5 second boot loop. Try 2 things since your bootloader is equipped to hand such things as a failsafe attach to pc via USB right when it powers on long press power button till it powers off and let sit for 24 hours. The low level charge might even kick in and indicate charging on the screen if so let it sit and it will eventually boot properly on its own. Good luck

lob455 said:
@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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I suspect it's the usb port that is bad, not the battery. The Kindle's usb port is weak and has a high failure rate, it can be repaired but likely not worth it, unless you know how to solder connections.