Hey I've been looking for an answer for about an hour and people don't seem to understand what I mean; What 3G service does AT&T use?
e.g. - EVDO, EVDV, RTT, CDMA, etc.
I'm only wondering because Sprint service is non-existent here in Dallas and I'm planning on switching to them and grabbing a Galaxy Note or something else that can actually receive signal through a small, plywood, house.
Okay the house isn't "plywood" but it IS extremely thin wood and dry wall with no bricks so I'm wondering why I never have cell phone or 3G and especially no 4G anywhere in my entire city.(Grand Prairie)
I've walked here and there from one side of the city to another and I only got 4G with 1 bar in a few random locations like the baseball field and at the grocery store. 3G was here and there but I received signal and then it would drop off like it was never there. Cell phone reception is 1-2 bars consistently.
I know it's not my phone that's the issue because they sent me an Airvana and now I have phone signal and 3G but it's nothing to write home about.
Also my wife's Epic 4G is in the exact same position with no 3G, 4G, etc.
Any advice? I will have to pay them $350 for the etf, which I don't have, as well as the $110 for the bill, which I actually don't have either...
Help?
Hspa I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Exactly whereabouts in Dallas are you getting such a bad signal? I live in Valley Ranch and get 3-4 bars of 4G. I work close to I-635 and the Dallas North Tollway and get full bars of 4G there. So far I haven't found anyplace in the Metroplex where I don't get at least a decent 4G signal.
Edge is 2g, HSPA is 3g, and HSPA+ is 4g.
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Edge is 2g, HSPA is 3g, and HSPA+ is 4g.
/*edit- If the coverage map shows you have no service at your house, you can push to get the ETF waived. Just call Customer Service until you get someone to help with that. But, be aware if you do so, you will not be able to re-start your service for ~12-18 months if you choose to come back.
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Everyone in metroplex should prepare to start losing 3g service as the LTE rollout is beginning, San Antonio is seeing that now, however if you're having trouble with 4G, especially in the DFW area, that's a phone issue, yes possible with both of the phones, but I would definitely check service map first, especially if you're planning to leave Sprint and watch your cell phone bill skyrocket any where else, as well consider that soon unlimited data will be gone, but those currently on Sprint service at that time, will not lose that service
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Edge is 2g, HSPA is 3g, and HSPA+ is 4g.
/*edit- If the coverage map shows you have no service at your house, you can push to get the ETF waived. Just call Customer Service until you get someone to help with that. But, be aware if you do so, you will not be able to re-start your service for ~12-18 months if you choose to come back.
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EDGE is 2G, UMTS is 3G, HSPA and HSPA+ are 4G under the rewritten standards.
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Atts 4g *not lte* is only 3.5G lol hspa+
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So with Sprints current network and their future network vision, what are your opinions and thoughts as far as carrier reliability and/or will you be leaving for better signal?
Sprint is not getting much better ... For a major carrier they are the slowest.. Even metro is faster and thats sad to say.. I think they cap the data cause they offer unlimited and call it 3g ..but its really 2g/edge on unlimited so of course they can afford to give 2g unlimited...
Ill be leaving after a yr or so... Im gonna wait and see how there 4g pans out in 2012
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It sucks, I spend more time roaming on verizon than I do on Sprint's network.
The last thing I am is "the Forum police" but how is this related to the E4GT?
I pretty sure you should reqest to have this moved to the Forum>>General area.
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So with Sprints current network and their future network vision, what are your opinions and thoughts as far as carrier reliability and/or will you be leaving for better signal?
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looks like you already have your mind made up and decided to make a thread to create a further ***** session
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Honestly it depends on the location when it comes to reliability...As for speed, any cdma carrier right now is about the same in terms of 3G speeds. I do not feel that Sprint caps their 3G data at all. In Seattle I get anywhere from 500k-1.2mb, which is about the same as any of my Verizon friends on 3G. Only reason T-mobile and AT&T are ahead is because they invested in HSDPA+ which is like 3.5G.
I have a super cheap plan so I will ride it out. As long as I can stream my prog rock audio podcasts I am happy. Los Angeles radio is truly crappy.
And to appease the police, my E4GT is awesome.
Coming from Tmobile, the sprint network sucks! I just signed my contract 2 or 3 weeks ago and while I have yet to have any call quality issues, my data is horrible here in Orlando,Fl the 4G is beyond spotty and the 3G is laughable. that being said with the price that I pay for my monthly I can't complain...
It's pretty much impossible to just make a generalization about a carriers data speeds. You should just look up coverage and speeds between the carriers in your area and areas that you might frequent since those are really the only numbers that matter.
I get 1.25mbps down on 3g and around 7.5 mbps down on 4g in chicago.
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It's pretty much impossible to just make a generalization about a carriers data speeds. You should just look up coverage and speeds between the carriers in your area and areas that you might frequent since those are really the only numbers that matter.
I get 1.25mbps down on 3g and around 7.5 mbps down on 4g in chicago.
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Exactly.
This is not an opinion topic.
Its all dependent on your area.
I know that companies like Verizon have convinced you via commercials that they're 373748484mbit/s everywhere but that's just not the case.
Find the network that best suits your area and your needs and go to them.
On long island it sucks beyond belief lately. Things seem to have gone down hill for me. I am always roaming when at some locations at work or if I'm visiting a location I usually have unusable 3g.
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I also just switched from t-mobile, I use to get 5mb on tmobile 3g, now i get around 1mb average on sprint. 4g on the other hand I'd a different story, the fastest i ever got was 11.40mb and an average of about 8mb in San Diego county. I hope they improve their 3g coverage or roll out more 4g to more locations.
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I have cell phone service with AT&T (iPhone 4S), Verizon (Soon to be Galaxy Nexus) and now Sprint, again (Epic 4G Touch)... All unlimited data plans. I'm data HUNGRY!
After my departure from Sprint in 2008, I wanted to give Sprint another go around. I am very surprised that the customer service is still horrible! The 4G network is very inconsistent, too many disconnects. 3G is very slow, pulling 800k max on a strong signal. Over all, looks like this 2 day Epic 4G Touch is going back and good by Sprint for the second time!
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Anybody else living in the inland Empire experiencing horrible sprint service? I've looked at there towers and noticed, they don't have much here. Sometimes 3g data speed is so slow it takes ages just to load Google home page :/ any input would be helpful. I don't know if it's my modem affecting the data speeds or if it's the service.
Where are you? By inland empire, do you mean the great plains of the America (Empire)?
Can you do a speedtest and show what you're getting?
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Where are you? By inland empire, do you mean the great plains of the America (Empire)?
Can you do a speedtest and show what you're getting?
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Pretty sure it's in California
Yes inland Empire in California. Any of you experiencing bad service? I go to school in Ontario and I get phenomenal 4G speeds. But I'm at school so I'm not always able to do what I want on my phone. After School I go home in Moreno Valley, and the service there is just horrible.. Almost to the point where I want to cancel my 2 year agreement. And I have been a loyal sprint customer for 8 years.
I live in the LA area and i get good speeds everywhere except in my house i dont get 4g and 3g is like dial up for me. Check out my speedtest below. I have wifi in my house so ehh no biggy.
The phone is so awesome
Im willing to wait for LTE to start spreading in LA i still got along time before i can upgrade so in the mean time i can deal wth it sprint unlimited is why im here and no longer with Tmobile.
travel to Long Beach frequently, and my 3g is actually fairly decent. around 300-600 kbps? thats 2x faster than what im getting in phoenix... i hope its not getting bad as part of Network Vision, heading that way in 2 weeks...
I live in the I.E. and yes sprint has horrible coverage in alot of places. That's the reason I got a airwave free for my home,cuz I get almost no service otherwise. If you look at the tower upgrade thing it says my area is gonna get a few enhancements over the next 6 months. So you should check your area and see if moval or the cities/places you frequent have planned upgrades before you cancel
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Alright I will. Airwave? You got an Airwave free for your home? Please explain this.... I'm a little confused, what is that? and 6 months of superrrrrr slow service is a lifetime.. I need my E4GT. :/
I don't think and Airrave will help with data issues.
Do you have good voice reception?
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Anybody else living in the inland Empire experiencing horrible sprint service? I've looked at there towers and noticed, they don't have much here. Sometimes 3g data speed is so slow it takes ages just to load Google home page :/ any input would be helpful. I don't know if it's my modem affecting the data speeds or if it's the service.
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Ya my wife and I both get pretty crappy service in Riverside. I was just in La this last weekend and was so envious of the 4g and the full bars of 3g I had! I'm lucky to pull 2-3 bars most of the time
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I don't think and Airrave will help with data issues.
Do you have good voice reception?
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Yes I get good voice reception, do you mind filling me in on what that is? I usually have data off when I go home. Cause there's no point at all having it on if it takes 5mins to load just the Google home page. When I'm in Ontario I have phenomenal 3g and 4G speeds. But once I hit Moval it just takes a dump. It's very very aggravating..
I live in corona and get ok speed.. Im usually hooked up to wifi .. When im not i get ok speed..
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i live in the IE and 3g service is alright not as fast as i wish but its not that bad well atleast for me and their is no 4g here but once i step into ontario area or go more west im able to get 4g which the speed is good.
its not dial up so you should try updating your prl, modem
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Cali +1 from the DIEGO to THE BAY no other place like it.
I live in Riverside and I have two bars in my house and around Riverside, Moreno valley and San bernardino I get full bars everywhere and average 1.1 mbps on 3G
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I live in the Inland Empire (Hemet) I am cancelling my Sprint Service because of the ungodly Data speeds. frequently 200kbps or less. I'm moving over to T-Mobile. I called Sprint the other day to ask what my ETF fee would be. The representative started arguing with me about T-mobiles fake 4G and how its not a real solution. I came back with two things first "What 4g? I dont have any 4g where I live. I don't even have 3g. The speeds I am getting are Edge speeds" and then Secondly "T-Mobiles fake 4g is real and tangible now. Its also faster then any 4g speeds I have ever clocked on sprint in Brea, Long Beach, Sacramento, Chicago and Manhattan. The question is, "Fake 4g Now or Real 4g Never?"
My friend has a Comet (Google it, its a pathetic entry level android phone) he is able to get consistent 2.5Mbps down anywhere in my town. Also a Coworker has the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile. Clocking around 14Mbps on T-Mobiles fake 4g network. I never saw more then 7 on Sprints 4G, Ever.
The Airave is a joke. You essentially turn your internet into a cell tower. think about this.... you pay sprint for service that you provide yourself by using the internet that YOU pay for...... hmmm seems like a cop out for them to offer that as a fix all for their poor towers.
I use to love Sprint back in the days of the Hero. When I could easily get 1.2 Mbps down anywhere I went. I dont know if they are just overloaded in the area, or the towers are in need of some TLC but I just cant take it anymore. GSM here I come.
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I live in the Inland Empire (Hemet) I am cancelling my Sprint Service because of the ungodly Data speeds. frequently 200kbps or less. I'm moving over to T-Mobile. I called Sprint the other day to ask what my ETF fee would be. The representative started arguing with me about T-mobiles fake 4G and how its not a real solution. I came back with two things first "What 4g? I dont have any 4g where I live. I don't even have 3g. The speeds I am getting are Edge speeds" and then Secondly "T-Mobiles fake 4g is real and tangible now. Its also faster then any 4g speeds I have ever clocked on sprint in Brea, Long Beach, Sacramento, Chicago and Manhattan. The question is, "Fake 4g Now or Real 4g Never?"
My friend has a Comet (Google it, its a pathetic entry level android phone) he is able to get consistent 2.5Mbps down anywhere in my town. Also a Coworker has the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile. Clocking around 14Mbps on T-Mobiles fake 4g network. I never saw more then 7 on Sprints 4G, Ever.
The Airave is a joke. You essentially turn your internet into a cell tower. think about this.... you pay sprint for service that you provide yourself by using the internet that YOU pay for...... hmmm seems like a cop out for them to offer that as a fix all for their poor towers.
I use to love Sprint back in the days of the Hero. When I could easily get 1.2 Mbps down anywhere I went. I dont know if they are just overloaded in the area, or the towers are in need of some TLC but I just cant take it anymore. GSM here I come.
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Ya I know what you mean. I have friends here in Moval and they have Verizon and T mobile and they get great service. Haven't asked them on the 4G service though. I did some research on the towers and noticed there aren't many sprint towers here.. They're all towards the west... :/ LA being the best spot for 4G... Wish I lived there.
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i live in the IE and 3g service is alright not as fast as i wish but its not that bad well atleast for me and their is no 4g here but once i step into ontario area or go more west im able to get 4g which the speed is good.
its not dial up so you should try updating your prl, modem
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I just remembered that.. I went flash crazy this month.. And forgot to update my PRL. I've always read that it's good to do that after flashing a rom. And about the modem.. I'm on El29. So far that I know it's the latest and "greatest" modem SO far.. Sorry for the noob question.... But what EXACTLY is PRL. And why should we update it after flashing a rom?
I was in a sprint store and the woman turned off my 4g switch and told me to not use it because we don't have 4g in my city. She said we only have 3g (crappy towers at that). Is it possible only larger cities have 4g? I've even attempted to find maps of where the 3g towers were in my city to see if I could test the connectivity but there's nothing offered. I'm honestly not sure what to do.
Check out sprint.com they have a map that overlays all there locations with 3g and 4g and what not. short answer to your question is yes. 4g is pretty limited to major US cities and even then not the whole cities. Over time they should get more coverage but we'll see how switching to lte over WiMax plays out.
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I live in the US - Raleigh NC area, they have pretty decent coverage here. But seeing as I just got my phone and Sprint about 3 weeks ago I can't talk about travel at a distance. Stormglove is right, check out sprints web site.
There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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I live in Louisville, KY. Apparently there are like 2 WiMax towers here. Connection is pretty poor though, even within range of WiMax I can get repeated connects and disconnects.
I dont get how they can even advertise 4g for Sprint. The amount of towers they currently have deployed probably dont even cover 10% of the usa i bet. Theres 1 tower in my state i beleive and its not even on the sqme island as me :-( they should advertise it as such.. "sprint, slow ass 3g and 4g thats probably not even within distance of a IBM missel" cause there 4g is a fricken joke
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I get great 4g in NYC 5MB/sec (in my house which is practically a dead zone for ALL phones >_>{LUCKY ME!!!!}) and 10MB/sec+ outside my house. hopefully LTE shows better results for the rest of sprint users. =(
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There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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Us Mexicans can't build there.. we are not allowed in Arizona... duh!
I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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Well in the case of when i was in Gurnee Ill around thanksgiving they actually lost 4g.
Thanksgiving 2010 they had 4g while i was down there, Thanksgiving 2011 they no longer had 4g the week i was down there...
Strange...
i get 4g in philadelphia... although as i go about town i'd say reception is spotty at best. if i'm in a good spot 4g blazes. if i'm in a car or certain areas, it's nil.
on another note, i think wimax is more or less dead on the water? there will be no more or few towers invested in by sprint since they want to be on lte by 2013. i could be recalling this info inaccurately; also since they piggyback off clear's wimax that doesn't mean clear will cease expanding their market - but i'm not sure about any of this, so take this post as speculation.
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I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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I love that area and try to get up to oak creek canyon at least 3 or 4 times a year in summer
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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I wonder how accurate that map is, as i supposedly have 4g.
But its sparatic at best...
Although i suppose sparatic means coverage in that area.
I would consider sprint's 4g more limited in market area's meaning most major markets but not all. Im just outside nashville, tn (not a major market) and its here & have been since june of 2010 but coverage is more spotty than anything. I work in a all glass building and its up and down like a roller coaster trying to get it to stay connected vs switching to 3g. In my home it wont even connect to 4g but not a big deal to me. Personally i would have done some research to see which area's its in b/c paying $10 for premium data isnt quite getting your money's worth in a non 4g area.
To the comment about not covering more than 10 percent of the country. It is probably a lot less than that even. But, since 80 percent of our country lives in urban environments it doesn't matter.
You won't get any type of 4G when your cruising down I-70 in BFE. But, it works fine in St. Louis or Kansas City. Even on a bigger carrier you have a similar problem.
Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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I hope so they turned the switch to a few more markets.
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Once Sprint officially rolls out 4G LTE, will their 3G signal and data speeds improve?
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That would totally depend on the market you're in.
The teams that are going around putting in the 4G upgrade are doing multiple things depending on the market.
For example, I asked this question specifically to a sprint tech the other day when purchasing my S3.
I live in Miramar/Pembroke Pines Florida (Just West of FtLauderdale).
Signal here is great in some spots (near I-75 or the turnpike) and almost non-existent anywhere else. Hell the other day I saw the nice little "Hey you're now roaming" message on my S3 (I never saw that on my Evo, though the signal was horrible).
The tech said that they are in fact upgrading EVERYTHING in my area, 3G, normal phone cellular and 4G LTE (they said the wimax would not be upgraded of course). It took them a minute to find the info as they had to look it up for my specific area to see what is and is not being upgraded.
She mentioned specifically that it wasn't just upgrading the current towers, but putting in more to improve coverage in areas such as Plantation, pembroke and Miramar specfically.
So my advice is to either wait and see what happens, or try to contact sprint and find out about your area.
So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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I get good wimax and this phone does everything. S4 is S3 on steroids so I am thinking about passing for S5!
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So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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i've already moved from Sprint over to Verizon.. I live in nyc and for me Sprint just sucks out here, the 4g is like 3g and the 3g is like 1x. Lots of dropped calls too, so i flashed over to Verizon. Much better network IMO. T-mobile is good to my g/f has them, great 4G speeds.
It depends on where you spend most of your time. The Sprint network is great in some places and sub par in others. We dont have any official 4G service in KY and 3G is sometimes questionable, but I lived in TX last year and had great service. I occasionally get unofficial wimax here and have no interest in switching phones until LTE arrives. My wallet can't handle Verizon so if I switch service in the future it will probably be to prepaid or back to TMO.
I personally think you should drop sprint like a rock because I have sprint out here in Detroit and their empty promises of 4G for the last 2 years has been nothing shy of an insult, not to mention their signal sucks horribly out here and their 3G speeds rival that of Dial-Up, and that's if you're lucky enough to get data over the 3G connection at all...
T-Mobile also has one of the smallest 4G networks (from what I've heard, don't know how true that is), and I've heard of nothing but problems from the few people that I know that own a T-Mobile phone. My other friends with AT&T never have a single issue, and my other friend with Verizon also has absolutely no problems with them what-so-ever, so I'd say go with AT&T or Verizon - I know I will be as soon as my sprint contract is up in a year.
TMO's LTE network just launched I think so it's naturally almost nonexistent. Their HSPA+ network is more than enough though.
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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.
New York City is an active Network Deployment market that is well under way by Alcatel-Lucent. The only places where I wouldn't upgrade to an LTE device on Sprint are in areas where NV has not yet begun and won't begun for an another few months (and then it'll take a month or two to get the stuff up and running after they begin).
Look here to see what other people reported..
http://www.sensorly.com/
and look here for more info about Network Vision.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1901-network-visionlte-new-york-city-market/
It depends on how strong the T-Mobile network is in your area. In mine, it isn't that good. I have this phone, s2, and I have a lte backup phone. My area does have lte coverage but it's not completely saturated yet. I have 4g lte at home and an area of one of my jobs. My best dl speed test with lte has been just shy of 4000 KB. There are a lot of if's to consider if switching to another carrier. Do your homework first before making a final decision. There's an app out there, I forgot the name, that shows the coverage area on a map with different carriers and modes. I'd suggest checking that out to gather more information. Here you go. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer
Your question is very area dependent. I live in Pittsburgh PA there's no lte in my area yet but it's coming. My 3g/4g is awesome though, I rarely find myself running 4g because the 3g is so good. I will be getting the S4 but not right away, I'm gonna wait for the price to drop and development to pick up.
Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm going to stay with the S2 for at least 2 two 3 more months or so before making a switch. I want to see what sprint has to offer in my area of NYC.
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In my area Memphis, TN we have bad sprint coverage and i don't like it. Internet is very slow and sometimes calls don't come through
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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.
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inland empire is terrible wish it was like orange county...
i travel to and from inland empire, orange county, SGV and Las vegas alot and inland empire is terrible which is were i am the most of the time...
was thinking of going to tmobile but worried about there coverage.. some people say its good but others have nothing but problems.. wonder how there service is away from the major cities.. Verizon is the best but too much .. thinking of flashing phone to verizon prepaid but would only get 2-3mb download but still alot better than sprint in the inland empire.