I can stand Telstra and as they are only available in Australia via Telstra, i want to purchase one outright. I want to know if anyone knows if this phone will work well on the 3 network.
The unlocked HTC desire will work on any network in Australia (not as good on telstra). I'm getting mine from clove on the 7th . Plussss, it's ALOT cheaper getting it imported from the UK, all up it comes to like $550 if i can remember right. It will be around $800 outright from Telstra.
P.S i forgot to mention that you can't get it from t-mobile, you'll have to wait for the unlocked version.
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P.S i forgot to mention that you can't get it from t-mobile, you'll have to wait for the unlocked version.
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I'm pretty sure all of the T-Mobile ones are unlocked . Check with others on the forums. T-mobile is probably not an option anyway unless you have a UK address- I dont think they sell them outright??
Will definitely work on 3mobile Australia. I'm also getting one from clove. I'm checking about every hour to see if they have brought the shipping date forward
T-Mobile ones are LOCKED.
Both versions will work on Three, but the International version will not work on Telstra
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=Desire_models
by International I mean the sim-free/unlocked ones from Handtec/Clove etc
m0nr said:
Both versions will work on Three, but the International version will not work on Telstra
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=Desire_models
by International I mean the sim-free/unlocked ones from Handtec/Clove etc
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Ive asked for clarification of that from wiki mod. I don't see why you couldn't use NextG. Unless the APac model is different from the AU model, they all support the same bands.
Do you know any reason why NextG differs from other 850 networks? Not that I care - Id rather cut my arm off with a rusty saw than go on a telstra plan. Just curious, thats all.
What umts frequency does the Docomo xperia arc SO-01C use for 3G?
Does it have a sim card slot?
i have been told that it has an sim slot and unlocked by Docomo
can any one approve?
Docomo uses an 800 band, not an 850 band, so it'll most likely not work.
NTT Docomo might operate on the same band, but mobile networks in Japan work in a completely different way. The NTT Docomo SO-01C will not work on any network out of Japan in any way.
the reason i wanted Docomo is because my GF wanted the pink color and is only available in Japan. I have found a Japanese seller that is willing to ship it to me to the U.S. Docomo started offerring free unlocking after April 1st . the phone has a sim slot and i think it will work on any GSM world wide if it was unlocked. but, the thing i wasnt sure about was the 3G issue.
it uses 850/900/1800/1900
not sure yet about umts/hsdpa
i have purchased the phone today and i am waiting for it to arrive. when i get it i will update you guys.
for me i am waiting on the xperia arc LT15a Version , but if the japanese version works i will get it from there also
the device at Docomo store is approximately $600 or 620 usd range without contract.
alsaqr said:
the reason i wanted Docomo is because my GF wanted the pink color and is only available in Japan. I have found a Japanese seller that is willing to ship it to me to the U.S. Docomo started offerring free unlocking after April 1st . the phone has a sim slot and i think it will work on any GSM world wide if it was unlocked. but, the thing i wasnt sure about was the 3G issue.
it uses 850/900/1800/1900
not sure yet about umts/hsdpa
i have purchased the phone today and i am waiting for it to arrive. when i get it i will update you guys.
for me i am waiting on the xperia arc LT15a Version , but if the japanese version works i will get it from there also
the device at Docomo store is approximately $600 or 620 usd range without contract.
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What is the site you bought it from?
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What is the site you bought it from?
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I can't find it. I am in San Diego and 850 should work just fine. With all the issues in Japan I am not sure if the Xperia would get even to Canada/>/
it is from an seller in Japan that happened to have an ebay account, he doesnt sell xperia usually but i managed to get his help
i ordered today and i am waiting for the tracking number
im happy cause ebay has buyer protection.
i just need to make sure everything is perfect before i release his info
About NTT DoCoMo:
It provides 2G
(mova) PDC cellular services on the 800 MHz
band, and 3G FOMA W-CDMA services on the
2 GHz (UMTS2100) and 800 MHz(UMTS800(Band
VI)) and 1700 MHz(UMTS1700(Band IX)) bands.
They use MOVA for 2G and FOMA for 3G, and neither of those techniques are used anywhere out of Japan. If you can, cancel the order, because the Japanese Arc will not work in the US.
Docomo in Japan uses 2100mhz and 800mhz.
The retail box for the SO-01C lists UMTS 1/2/5/6 compatability (2100, 1900, 850, 800). Some websites suggest the SO-01C has UMTS 1/2/5/6/8 compatability. On the other hand, Sony Ericsson Japan simply lists "3G 850mhz/2Ghz" for international roaming.
For what it's worth, the SO-01C device label does not use either LT15i or LT15a codes (which are UMTS 1/8, and UMTS 1/2/5, respectively), but instead "SO-01C".
The only problem I see is that since the SO-01C is identified as "SO-01C" instead of LT15i/LT15a, there is a possibility that you may have difficulty in receiving OTA updates, and that any manual firmware updates for LT15i/LT15a may not work properly.
Edit: Yes, Docomo is FOMA, but FOMA is basically UMTS with a few additional Japan-only features. Historically, FOMA handsets used proprietary software (in addition to carrier lock) which made them difficult to use internationally. But stock Android is built for GSM/CDMA/UMTS (and now 4G/LTE), and not limited only to FOMA. In order to support Japan-only FOMA features on Android, Docomo just uses additional apps (such as SP Mode for messaging). Other FOMA features such as osaifu don't work anyway, because the Arc does not have an NFC chip, or an ISDB-T antenna for 1seg, etc.
Otherwise, basic UMTS voice and packet access should work fine just as long as the phone supports the correct UMTS band, the phone is indeed unlocked, and you have the necessary APN and MMS settings for your carrier.
I'm pretty sure you have to take the phone to a Docomo shop for it to be unlocked.
yes the seller has unlocked it for me at the docomo store.
im not cancelling anything ,this an sony android device and is a bit different from other docomo devices. i will see what happens when i recieve it and let you guys know.
alsaqr said:
yes the seller has unlocked it for me at the docomo store.
im not cancelling anything ,this an sony android device and is a bit different from other docomo devices. i will see what happens when i recieve it and let you guys know.
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I bet its going to work. Most carrier make their phones to work internationally (at least for the gsm part) if this is unlocked then it should work! Did he pay that $32 to unlock? It said that you need to have an account?
When are you receiving it?
yes i have paid the seller the unlocking fee , but im not sure if he got it for free or paid for it and i dint care since the fee is not that expensive. i paid on Friday and today he said he will ship via EMS. since it is weekend im not sure if they work in japan on sat/sun , i will inform you when i will get it once he gives me a tracking number.
hey guys
this is a japanese online store that proves what i have been saying about the 3G japanese version and that it should work in the usa if it is unlocked.
http://en.item.rakuten.com/riso-sya/243/
check the network section
note: i have not ordered from this site i have ordered from a private seller on ebay
this site has high quality cases and accessories if you are interested
$1156 :O
Sim Free :O
I want one but for half of the price
Well Nimche, sorry buddy but I finally gave in. Just ordered 2 Midnight Blue LT15i's from Handtec. (One for me, one for GF)
Edit: posted in wrong topic.
A few notes here:
1. The phone may be stuck in the Japanese Android Marketplace which means you won't be able to access the same applications in overseas markets. Even when a Japanese Android phone is set to English, the marketplace is still that of Japan, however it may depend on the carrier SIM card.
2. OTA updates take far longer to come out in Japan than in other countries due to the language issue. For example whereas the HTC Desire was updated to Android 2.2 overseas last July (August?) in Japan it wasn't updated until October. In the future, you may have a problem if you try a manual update in light of the Japanese modified OS (whereas OS updates released in other regions are compatible with those languages/builds).
3. Depending on if this seller is trustworthy or not, the phone may have an ESN problem. Unless he paid in full at the time of purchase then he may be locked into a 2 year contract. You can not buy a phone without service in Japan, you must sign a contract even if you cancel it the next day. This may or may not be a problem in your being overseas (probably not).
4. Customer service for the phone must be handled in Japan, thus if there is anything wrong with it you are going to have a problem. In Japan, the buyer must inspect the phone prior to purchase to verify there are no scratches or problems and once the contract is finalized the phone can NOT be returned under any condition. This is quite different from America where you can apparently return the product days or even weeks later simply because you don't like it.
Also, if the seller has terminated the contract then there is no free repair or exchange possible, even in Japan.
5. Packet transmission charges may be calculated at a different rate because you are not using a phone provided by your carrier. In Japan, for example, Docomo has locked smartphone handsets at a maximum charge of around 6,000 yen per month, however if an unlocked phone is used it is treated as a mobile terminal and thus billed at a higher rate of 9,980 yen per month.
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A few notes here:
1. The phone may be stuck in the Japanese Android Marketplace which means you won't be able to access the same applications in overseas markets. Even when a Japanese Android phone is set to English, the marketplace is still that of Japan, however it may depend on the carrier SIM card.
2. OTA updates take far longer to come out in Japan than in other countries due to the language issue. For example whereas the HTC Desire was updated to Android 2.2 overseas last July (August?) in Japan it wasn't updated until October. In the future, you may have a problem if you try a manual update in light of the Japanese modified OS (whereas OS updates released in other regions are compatible with those languages/builds).
3. Depending on if this seller is trustworthy or not, the phone may have an ESN problem. Unless he paid in full at the time of purchase then he may be locked into a 2 year contract. You can not buy a phone without service in Japan, you must sign a contract even if you cancel it the next day. This may or may not be a problem in your being overseas (probably not).
4. Customer service for the phone must be handled in Japan, thus if there is anything wrong with it you are going to have a problem. In Japan, the buyer must inspect the phone prior to purchase to verify there are no scratches or problems and once the contract is finalized the phone can NOT be returned under any condition. This is quite different from America where you can apparently return the product days or even weeks later simply because you don't like it.
Also, if the seller has terminated the contract then there is no free repair or exchange possible, even in Japan.
5. Packet transmission charges may be calculated at a different rate because you are not using a phone provided by your carrier. In Japan, for example, Docomo has locked smartphone handsets at a maximum charge of around 6,000 yen per month, however if an unlocked phone is used it is treated as a mobile terminal and thus billed at a higher rate of 9,980 yen per month.
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thanks tokyo guy for the info
1- i think the market will work fine , if it doesnt i will flash the LT15i rom
2-for now im ok with 2.3 and if i flash with LT15i , i guess i will do fine
3-the seller has bought the phone full price without a contract
4-even if i bought from anywhere else, the warranty issue wont matter since i am buying from other countries. my x10 never had any issue where i needed a warranty and im hoping the arc will be the same
5-As i said the seller has paid full price and there is no contract and is unlocked for international roaming(policy has changed in docomo after april 1st)
note: i have told the seller that if it doesnt work properly , that i will return it
alsaqr said:
thanks tokyo guy for the info
1- i think the market will work fine , if it doesnt i will flash the LT15i rom
2-for now im ok with 2.3 and if i flash with LT15i , i guess i will do fine
3-the seller has bought the phone full price without a contract
4-even if i bought from anywhere else, the warranty issue wont matter since i am buying from other countries. my x10 never had any issue where i needed a warranty and im hoping the arc will be the same
5-As i said the seller has paid full price and there is no contract and is unlocked for international roaming(policy has changed in docomo after april 1st)
note: i have told the seller that if it doesnt work properly , that i will return it
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I had a talk with SE USA and they told me that if I buy a product from another country, they will still repair it for a fee.
Good info here.
Nimche said:
I had a talk with SE USA and they told me that if I buy a product from another country, they will still repair it for a fee.
Good info here.
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ya i fixed my sony laptop that i bought from a different country at sony usa and they accepted it
Hello,
my brother is thinking of buying the Defy.
Is there another model for US and another for Europe? In order to be careful when purchasing online?
Because i have the Motorola Milestone and i know that there are two different models for that one.
Thanks
I purchased mine online Im using a Europe defy in Australia it shouldn't really matter i suggest look up the nexus s they have dropped heaps in price and a very good phone have a look at this
http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Google-Nexus-S-vs-Motorola-DEFY
I've bought my us tmob defy for using in Ukraine
So you brother can buy either european defy or us
Fekish said:
Hello,
my brother is thinking of buying the Defy.
Is there another model for US and another for Europe? In order to be careful when purchasing online?
Because i have the Motorola Milestone and i know that there are two different models for that one.
Thanks
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I loved Cyprus -- when I was a kid toured around on a motorcycle. Anyway, there are different phones for different markets. The US t-mo phone will (of course) do data on t-mo but also, will work on at&t. It will also work on the more universal 2100 3G frequency for Europe and Asia.
If you buy the typical Euro phone, it does not have the 3G frequencies which work in the USA. On the other hand, any of the phones should connect w/o issue for text and voice.
Make sure, if he's buying on line, he does not get a version designed for some of the Arab language markets which do not have market.
Nerdy question - haven't found anyhwere else online yet..
On NCS, looks like some units in Brazil & Mexico are getting 2102.8779.12202 -
Nokia DO Brasil
Vivo Brasil
Telcel Mexico
My Lumia (Unlocked Hong Kong Smartone) is updated to 2101.8779.12201
Anyone know what the difference is?
Mine is with Rogers Canada, but I received my replacement Lumia 900 from Nokia's center here in Canada.
My firmware reads: 2175.2301.8779.12222
I have the flip to silence feature.
xsever said:
Mine is with Rogers Canada, but I received my replacement Lumia 900 from Nokia's center here in Canada.
My firmware reads: 2175.2301.8779.12222
I have the flip to silence feature.
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Makes sense; looks like you would have the RM-808; I have RM-823. Not too worried as my phone also has flip to silence - and the tethering works very well as well..