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Hello everyone, I'm not only completely new here, but also to the whole process of "rooting", "flashing", and other aspects of unlocking my G2 device.
This thread was not only made for helping me and directing me to where I go about "installing" the Sense UI - but along with a couple questions.
I'm sure there are several users on here who have done this process, and I ask what made you make the "switch". What does Sense have over the apparently "stock" android UI that the T-Mobile G2 is shipped with.
Second Question: If I were to install Sense on my G2; and seeing as how theoretically with the Stock UI on the G2 updated would be attained faster, would the installment of Sense on my phone hamper such "updates" in any way shape or form?
Third Question: If it turns out that I'm not satisfied with the Sense UI experience, can I quickly revert back to my Original UI? What would I lose in the process, and what could possibly happen to my phone?
Fourth Question: How "hard" would you consider this installment? I consider myself being pretty tech-savvy; however I have yet to venture in any sort of way as how to even begin "rooting" my phone. As such I believe I have come to the best for help.
Fifth Question: Is there any step by step instructions/videos out there that depicts exactly how to install Sense on my G2?
I believe this covers all of my questions at the moment, and I appreciate any and all whom of which allocate their time in attempts to ease me in the process of not only making this decision, but when/if I do indeed decide to install Sense on my G2.
Thanks everyone - and Happy Holidays!
You have to root first before being able to completey install sense ui ..from there its extremely easy with rom manager to install...
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Go to the unlockr.com it answers all your questions on the g2 section and has videos
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kingvaj23 said:
You have to root first before being able to completey install sense ui ..from there its extremely easy with rom manager to install...
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Information and guides for all of this can be found in the stickies. That'll explain all of it better than could be answered here.
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I usually don't post but before you get roasted by everybody else ill give you a little bit of help. Go in the forum G2 android development. Read the first couple threads to learn how to use the search bar. If you want sense then look at virtuous rom. Its a pretty good version of sense I used it for about a month with no problems at all. If you go to the first post in the thread that the rom is on it will tell you how to go about doing everything. In this forum you'll also find threads that tell you many possible ways of going about rooting your G2. Just make sure that you know that whatever you do to your phone is what YOU do to your phone. I am no way shape or form trying to get you to brick your what I assume to be a new device. Just read up and follow ALL instructions carefully.
Much better said thanks lol
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It probably makes sense for you to flash a custom ROM that is based on the Sense ROM. That way you will get all the Sense stuff. You won't get any OTA (Over The Air) updates if you're on a custom ROM, but that shouldn't matter, because hopefully whoever cooked up the ROM will be keeping it up to date anyway (and probably more quickly than HTC/carriers).
What you should do is get root/S-OFF on your phone (I recommend using the guide in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29 - plus this guide to get adb working on your PC - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685 ). Then, *before* you flash a custom ROM, install the ROM Manager app (from the Market) and flash Clockwork Recovery (from within ROM Manager), then that will let you do a full backup of your stock ROM, which you can easily restore to if you every want to in the future.
It's not at all hard to do once you read up and learn about the steps. It might look daunting at first, but it's pretty simple if you carefully follow the guides. If in doubt, ask questions before you do anything.
1. Sense's camera app is miles ahead of the stock Android camera, as is the music player, and there are a few other niceties as well.
2. Once you switch to custom ROMs, you pretty much lose any of the updates released from the carriers/manufacturers. The good news, though, is that developers typically get ahold of these updates and 'fix' them so you can apply them yourself. It's not really a big deal, honestly.
3. Yes. Since HTC has the G2 with stock and the Desire Z with Sense, and they're the same hardware, it's pretty simple to switch between Sense and Stock - just a simple flash.
4. Take the time to read through the walkthroughs - I recommend using the rage method and not VISIONary, but that's me personally. Read through the walkthrough entirely, download the components you need, and then do it. Setup/prep takes ~20-30 minutes, actually rooting your phone only takes like, 5-10 min. It's pretty easy if you can follow directions. Don't overthink it.
5. You need to perm-root your phone first, and install ClockworkMod recovery. I believe the rooting walkthroughs all include the ClockworkMod installation.
Once you have ClockworkMod installed and working, installing a ROM is as simple as downloading a zip file, putting it on your memory card (doesn't need to be in a special folder or anything, just toss it on there) and then choosing that zip file from a menu.
Here are some terms you'll want to know:
Recovery - like BIOS, for your phone (ClockWorkMod is the one you'll use)
Nandroid - full image backup of your whole phone. before you make *any* changes in clockworkmod/rom manager, do a nandroid backup.
SetCPU - free when you register on XDA. Lets you easily overclock your processor and setup profiles (drops the speed if your phone overheats, underclock when the screen is off, etc)
APK - the installer file for Android (kinda like an .exe)
ADB - part of the Android SDK. You can install the SDK to your computer and then use ADB to make changes to your phone from your computer via USB.
ROM Manager - free app on the Market that lets you manage ROMs - you can download new ones, upgrade the one you've got, manage nandroid backups (rename, delete, etc), boot into recovery, etc. Highly recommended.
Well said, everyone. I was very tired and should have mentioned going to the development section, specifically.
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1. Sense's camera app is miles ahead of the stock Android camera, as is the music player, and there are a few other niceties as well.
2. Once you switch to custom ROMs, you pretty much lose any of the updates released from the carriers/manufacturers. The good news, though, is that developers typically get ahold of these updates and 'fix' them so you can apply them yourself. It's not really a big deal, honestly.
3. Yes. Since HTC has the G2 with stock and the Desire Z with Sense, and they're the same hardware, it's pretty simple to switch between Sense and Stock - just a simple flash.
4. Take the time to read through the walkthroughs - I recommend using the rage method and not VISIONary, but that's me personally. Read through the walkthrough entirely, download the components you need, and then do it. Setup/prep takes ~20-30 minutes, actually rooting your phone only takes like, 5-10 min. It's pretty easy if you can follow directions. Don't overthink it.
5. You need to perm-root your phone first, and install ClockworkMod recovery. I believe the rooting walkthroughs all include the ClockworkMod installation.
Once you have ClockworkMod installed and working, installing a ROM is as simple as downloading a zip file, putting it on your memory card (doesn't need to be in a special folder or anything, just toss it on there) and then choosing that zip file from a menu.
Here are some terms you'll want to know:
Recovery - like BIOS, for your phone (ClockWorkMod is the one you'll use)
Nandroid - full image backup of your whole phone. before you make *any* changes in clockworkmod/rom manager, do a nandroid backup.
SetCPU - free when you register on XDA. Lets you easily overclock your processor and setup profiles (drops the speed if your phone overheats, underclock when the screen is off, etc)
APK - the installer file for Android (kinda like an .exe)
ADB - part of the Android SDK. You can install the SDK to your computer and then use ADB to make changes to your phone from your computer via USB.
ROM Manager - free app on the Market that lets you manage ROMs - you can download new ones, upgrade the one you've got, manage nandroid backups (rename, delete, etc), boot into recovery, etc. Highly recommended.
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I really liked your explanation on everything that I asked for. I can't thank you enough!
Also thank you to everybody else that has posted in this thread - much appreciated
However I have one more question, seeing as how Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) is now on the table, and presumably the G2 (if I keep at it stock/as is) will receive it in the coming months - do you recommend installing Sense? Or just waiting for 2.3?
I'm sorry if that's not a good question, as you can see I'm still unfamiliar with Android (coming from a Sidekick LX hahaha); for what I understand is that Sense is just an overlay over the OS right? Or something of that sort?
Anyways what I'm really trying to say is, would it be easier for me to just wait it out for the Update (2.3) or go ahead with Sense?
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However I have one more question, seeing as how Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) is now on the table, and presumably the G2 (if I keep at it stock/as is) will receive it in the coming months - do you recommend installing Sense? Or just waiting for 2.3?
I'm sorry if that's not a good question, as you can see I'm still unfamiliar with Android (coming from a Sidekick LX hahaha); for what I understand is that Sense is just an overlay over the OS right? Or something of that sort?
Anyways what I'm really trying to say is, would it be easier for me to just wait it out for the Update (2.3) or go ahead with Sense?
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You will get 2.3 quicker if you go to a custom ROM. There are builds of Cyanogen right now based on 2.3 (see the dev forum), and he is bound to release a full version before HTC/T-Mobile get round to their official 2.3 updates.
Some people like Sense ROMs, others hate them. The only way to find out for sure is for you to try one. Do a nandroid backup of your G2 ROM before you flash, then it will be very easy for you to go back to stock if you want to (e.g. if you don't like Sense).
Sense is basically a set of different apps and widgets for the phone, with a Sense framework embedded into the ROM to support these. e.g. some extra widgets you can use, different SMS app compared to stock, different camera app compared to stock, etc, etc.
Yes, Sense is an overlay, a new Graphical user interface for the OS.
As for 2.3, I'd go ahead and do the Sense ROM now, and wait for the stable 2.3 ROMs, which should be about a month or so. As noted, there are currently builds of 2.3 that you can install on your G2, but various things aren't working (WiFi seems wonky, video cam doesn't work, etc). These will be fixed eventually.
Flashing a new ROM is so easy it's not even funny - slap Sense on there now, so you can enjoy it while you're waiting for Gingerbread.
Some great responses above. But wanted to clarify, since the OP seems a bit clear. There is no way to "install" only Sense. Its too embedded into the ROM/OS as steviewevie mentioned. You need to flash a whole new ROM, which will wipe your phone. What you will then have is a phone with Froyo and the Sense UI.
Custom Gingerbread ROMs with Sense will eventually show up on XDA. But it will probably not happen until after HTC releases a device (or updates an exisiting device) with Gingerbread & Sense.
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Absolutely amazing responses people, I can't thank you all enough for your input!
However I'm having problems with what would seem so "simple" to you guys. I can't seem to be able to install ADB on my phone - I swear I've done everything that I could/followed the thread posted by stevie. Yet the command prompt won't recognize my phone.
Even more so, when I downloaded the program for my G2 (Desire Z HTC Sync Software) the software didn't even recognize my phone was plugged in via usb. I'm using the official USB that came with my phone, and when I plug it in via usb I'm able to transfer files to and from my computer/G2.
Yet it's not being "recognized" by either programs (HTC Sync or ADB/Command Prompt)
Anyone have any ideas?
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However I'm having problems with what would seem so "simple" to you guys. I can't seem to be able to install ADB on my phone - I swear I've done everything that I could/followed the thread posted by stevie. Yet the command prompt won't recognize my phone.
Even more so, when I downloaded the program for my G2 (Desire Z HTC Sync Software) the software didn't even recognize my phone was plugged in via usb. I'm using the official USB that came with my phone, and when I plug it in via usb I'm able to transfer files to and from my computer/G2.
Yet it's not being "recognized" by either programs (HTC Sync or ADB/Command Prompt)
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So what is that does work in terms of sync/transfer for your phone ? You mention transferring files, is that if you go into "Disk Drive" mode for the connection type, to mount the SD card on your PC ?
What OS do you have on your PC ?
Have you tried a different USB port on your PC ?
I'm able to manually drag and drop files from my computer to my phone and vice-versa. For example I'm able to drag in .mp3 or video files for media uses/manage pictures - you know the regular stuff you would/should be able to do upon plugging in your phone via usb.
I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64
And yes I've tried more than one usb on my laptop.
Keep in mind I also toggled "usb debugging" and seemingly all other necessary measures as what you've described in the thread.
When ever I bring my Command Promt, and enter in the necessary information, it comes back as "this command is unrecognizable" etc.
What is bewildering me is that my computer reads the phone connected (as I'm able to manipulate the files on my sd card) yet the "HTC Sync" program is not able to pick up my phone. And I presumed there's a connection their since the Command Prompt isn't executing the necessary information as well.
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I'm able to manually drag and drop files from my computer to my phone and vice-versa. For example I'm able to drag in .mp3 or video files for media uses/manage pictures - you know the regular stuff you would/should be able to do upon plugging in your phone via usb.
I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate x64
And yes I've tried more than one usb on my laptop.
Keep in mind I also toggled "usb debugging" and seemingly all other necessary measures as what you've described in the thread.
When ever I bring my Command Promt, and enter in the necessary information, it comes back as "this command is unrecognizable" etc.
What is bewildering me is that my computer reads the phone connected (as I'm able to manipulate the files on my sd card) yet the "HTC Sync" program is not able to pick up my phone. And I presumed there's a connection their since the Command Prompt isn't executing the necessary information as well.
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You have a G2, right ? So I presume you're running the stock G2 ROM right now ? I don't think that will work with HTC Sync, since I don't think the stock G2 ROM supports HTC Sync, only the Sense ROMs (i.e. from the Desire Z). You have to select a special "HTC Sync" mode to connect the phone, from the phone side, even on a Desire Z, to make it work.
I'm interested in this "command is unrecognizable" business. When do you get that, what exactly are you typing on your PC to bring up that message ?
Is the drag and drop stuff when you turn on "USB Sharing" on your G2 ?
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You have a G2, right ? So I presume you're running the stock G2 ROM right now ? I don't think that will work with HTC Sync, since I don't think the stock G2 ROM supports HTC Sync, only the Sense ROMs (i.e. from the Desire Z). You have to select a special "HTC Sync" mode to connect the phone, from the phone side, even on a Desire Z, to make it work.
I'm interested in this "command is unrecognizable" business. When do you get that, what exactly are you typing on your PC to bring up that message ?
Is the drag and drop stuff when you turn on "USB Sharing" on your G2 ?
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Ah I see, I sort of figured that sort of complication might have been due to the fact that I couldn't "find" any G2 specific "software". So naturally I just went with the Desire Z Software.
As for the "command is unrecognizable business", I receive that message on step "7" of your guide for installing ABD (The Complete Way). I'm not sure why it's doing that when my phone is plugged in. When I could have sworn I did everything prior to that step.
And yes I'm able to that when I turn on "USB Sharing".
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As for the "command is unrecognizable business", I receive that message on step "7" of your guide for installing ABD (The Complete Way). I'm not sure why it's doing that when my phone is plugged in. When I could have sworn I did everything prior to that step.
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If you get that from "adb devices", then your PATH is not setup correctly. Go back to Step 4 and check what you put there.
In my experience, HTC Sync is pretty wonky, anyways, I have the Virtuous ROM on my G2 and sometimes I can get HTC Sync to recognize my phone, sometimes I can't. Typically what happens is that my phone sees HTC Sync on my computer and says it's synchronizing, but HTC Sync never shows anything. I gave up, eventually.
What are you trying to sync? I use Windows Live Photo Gallery (the newest version is pretty sweet), and just connected my phone to my computer in disk mode, then 'hid' all the folders on my memory card other than /DCIM/Images (where the camera stores photos). I can then connect my phone in disk mode, and on the little popup in Windows, choose the 'import photos to Windows Live Photo Gallery' and it only imports photos - ignoring all the other images I have on my card, from apps and such.
This post was originally a question to see if I got all the steps correct. Now that I have completed the process myself I thought it would be better to update it so other noobs might benefit from it.
First of all:
I do not take credit for anything. This is just a list of all the steps I had to take to get my standard phone to a rooted state with a custom ROM (LeeDrOiD in my case). Almost every word you will read is copied from the tool-makers guides. I hyperlinked the programs to their pages because they deserve all the credit and because there is a wealth of information to be found there. My attempt is merely aimed to streamline it for easier reading. This doesn't excuse you from reading their guides and information!
You will be messing with the core of your phone and risk bricking it. If you don't know what bricking is you should not try to modify just yet. First understand what you are trying to do. Just messing about because someone told you it is "cool" could leave you with a dead phone and an hole in your wallet.
If something goes wrong, don't blame me nor anyone else who gave you information. I can only say that I did exactly what I wrote in this post and it worked for me.
Your actions = Your responsibility
Now that the serious part is over; let's start messing up our expensive communication devices.
When you start a process and it appears to lock your phone or make it non-responsive; WAIT! Do not try to interrupt by pulling the battery. Just have some patience and if nothing happens after, let's say, 30 minutes; go to the XDA forums and ask for advice in the threads created by the makers of the tools. You could ask here, but since I am just a noob myself you really don't want my advice.
I first downloaded all the files I needed and then disabled internet on my computer. This way I could turn of the virus scanner and firewall off safely. This was just to make sure those two programs would not interfere with anything.
All this was done on a pc with Win7 Pro 64-bit.
Requirements:
Windows XP SP2 or higher
.NET Framework 4.0
HTC Sync (or ADB drivers)
Desire HD with stock kernel (or Apache14's 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense)
It will not work on 1.72.405.3 or higher build, or new radio. Downgrade first!!
Step by Step:
Getting Root
1. Install Visionary
2. Open Visionary and tap temproot, then attempt permroot now.
The phone will reboot.
Getting Radio S-Off
3. Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled.
Connect charge only!)
4. Install "Desire HD easy radio tool" on the computer, run it and choose the first option, click "Do it"!
There may be a SuperUser request on your phone, allow it.
Getting ENG S-OFF
5. Install "Desire HD easy s-off", click "S-OFF it"! There will be a SuperUser request on your phone, allow it. There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine.
6. (Optional) I backed up all my apps using the free "My Backup Root" app from Android market. Not going to restore after installing the new rom because this might mess up things. Just using it as a reference so I can manually redownload all my apps.
Installing ROM Manager and ClockworkMod
7. Download and install "ROM Manager" through Android Market.
8. Disconnect phone from computer
9. Launch "ROM Manager" app, select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" and follow instructions.
Allow SuperUser request.
Installing LeeDroiD
10. Download LeeDroiD HD ROM (and check MD5 hash). I used v2.0.0. Connect your phone to the computer (Disk Drive mode) and copy the file to the root of the SD card.
11. Make sure you have enough room on the SD card for a complete backup. Mine was 750MB.
12. Make sure the battery of the phone is charged and disconnect it from computer.
13. Boot into recovery by starting "ROM Manager" and selecting "Reboot into Recovery"
Moving the cursor in recovery is done using volume up and down buttons. Power button functions as "select/enter"
14. Once booted, select "backup&restore", then "backup" (this will backup your current ROM a.k.a. Nandroid backup to your SD).
15. When the backup is complete, select " +++++Go Back+++++". select " Reboot system now".
Connect to the computer in Disk drive mode and copy the created backup (in clockworkmod folder) to your computer. If something goes wrong with the SD card during wipes/flashes, you will at least have your backup safe. After copying the files run the MD5 hash in the backup folder on your computer to make sure all files are intact.
Now we are going to wipe stuff, so if you are getting cold feet: NOW is the time to stop.
16. Boot into recovery by starting "ROM Manager" and selecting "Reboot into Recovery"
17. Select "wipe data/factory reset". Scroll down to "yes" in the next screen and press the powerbuttton
18. Select "wipe cache partition".
19. Under Advanced select "Wipe Dalvik cache" (Some people report Market problems when not wiping Dalvik)
20. Select " +++++Go Back+++++"
21. Select "install zip from SD card". Then "Choose zip from sdcard". Then find and select the LeeDroiD zip file on your SD card.
22. Wait for the process to complete. Select " +++++Go Back+++++". Select " Reboot system now". This can take a long time since it is first boot. DO NOT reboot until you have completed the boot sequence and completed the HTC introduction/setup sequence.
Installing new Radio
-Reboot the phone again. Just to make sure everything is still working
-Connect to the computer and set to charge only
-Make sure USB debugging is enabled.
-In theory almost every radio (for your type of phone!) should work. It's just that one version might give better reception while another might have better battery life. Flashing the radio is another possible brick-moment so don't rush it.
23. Install Radio Flash on the computer
24. Open the Radio Flash folder which was created in the previous step
25. Download the recommended radio for your selected ROM and check the MD5 hash
26. Extract the Radio.img in the zip file to the Radio Flash folder
27. Run "Start here" in the Radio Flash folder and a dos window will open
28. At the prompt type "adb reboot bootloader". This will take the device directly to fastboot. It takes a little while (DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING)
29. Wait for the phone to reboot in to bootloader screen.
30. Type "fastboot flash radio radio.img" in the dos window
31. Once it says finished in the window type "fastboot reboot"
YOU ARE DONE! Enjoy your upgraded phone.
it looks good
Well i did it this way and it went well but i switcht from Lee droid to DcMV
and the phone runs well
sorry for OT , but what is DcMV?
guess all what u've written is correct since u made some good readings with the guides on xda dhd forum.
a few points might help u , well since i rooted my DHD 3 days ago
-always downgrade to 1.32 (which u already have)
-temp then perm root with visionary
-before installing the custom rom u chose , try to find the appropriate radio for it and flash that radio BEFORE flashing the custom rom (flash with with stock rom) to avoid incompatibility errors with the awesome S-OFF tools
-always make Nandroid backups (with CWM) before flashing stuff so u can return to your original point
-use titanium backup, as far as i know its the best featured backup app avaliable now (backups : apps+apps data + system apps and data).it will save u lots of time restoring stuff.
-follow the guides "litterally" and there is no need to rush
Wow... A new user who knows how to read! =)
You should post this as a tutorial
There shouldn't be any problems with that.
Gaining ENG S-OFF can brick your device, so be careful at this stage. You're flashing hboot and with a faulty hboot your DHD is nothing but a paperweight.
But I never heard of bricked DHD, so don't worry
Ah yeah, also flashing radio could brick your device.
Thank you all for the feedback.
I forgot about titanium backup. Will come in handy to transfer some apps and their settings.
Goodm7sn, I don't quite understand what you are saying here.
"-before installing the custom rom u chose , try to find the appropriate radio for it and flash that radio BEFORE flashing the custom rom (flash with with stock rom) to avoid incompatibility errors with the awesome S-OFF tools"
What do you mean with "flash with stock rom"? I mean, why flash something that is already there? Also considering the fact that I don't have a stock rom file.
And what kind of compatibility errors are you referring to? I did some googling and the consensus seems to be that it doesn't matter if you flash radio or rom first.
Your steps were nicely arranged and helped me to doublecheck my own steps. Now happy owner of a rooted LeeDroid 1.5.1, in part thanks to you. Suggest that you consider tweaking this into a short tutorial as it could help other newbies too. Cheers!
think yeah i made some confusion there, my bad . what i was trying to say is exactly what happened to me when i was rooting and doing the the other stuff . stock htc rom v1.32 has an old radio and the one that came with v1.72 is newer and more recommended with many other custom roms like leedroid and android revolution hd.
in my case , i installed a custom rom (android revolution HD 2.0.9) and noticed my radio version was the old one and not the one recommended,and since i only had only radio s-off , i ran the ENG S-OFF tool to install the new radio, there the tool displayed errors of rom/kernel incompatibity and i was forced to restore my htc rom v 1.32 where ENG S-OFF was succecfull only then. new radio flashing went smooth as well.
the point is, if u want full freedom and functionality of tools and mods then dont do only radio s-off but do both radio s-off and eng s-off (using the tools) then u r free to flash anything from roms , radios to kernels
Ah, that makes sense. But I got both those locks covered right after root.
Once I get access to using links in the post I will polish it and add my own experiences. I am probably not the only noob scared of messing up, so the more detailed the guide the better. Just hope I get some time in the coming days to upgrade the phone. Making notes on the go will slow it down, but I am not in a hurry. Slow and steady wins the race.
And now it's time for the superbowl.
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Just kicking up the thread so people can decide if this is of any help.
Have just spent the day reading up and trying to figure out how to get my brand new HD sorted.
Its locked to Orange and has the branded firmware. I want it nice and clean, and unlocked (as I need to use an o2 sim card).
Heres the info from my software info page...
Android version - 2.2
Baseband version - 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02_M
Kernel version - 2.6.32-gf3f553d
[email protected] #1
Thu Oct 28
Build number - 1.40.61.2 CL284185 release keys
Software number - 1.40.61.2
Browser version - Webkit 3.1
Do I literally just follow the steps in your original post? Will this unlock it? And, can I make a backup of the phone firmware as it is now in case I need to restore it?
Thanks for your help. Like I say, have spent hours reading and am getting myself confused. First time with Android.
Well if I am not mistaken the radio s-off tool will remove the simlock. And from what I understand this should work with your software version. With the nandroid backup you should be able to restore your phone, but if you are thinking about warranty; I am pretty sure techies will be able to see what you did. If it is absolutely vital you can restore everything you might want to ask in the threads of the developers.
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thanks for the guide briand77, just want to clarify something before i do it , after you run visionary and do the temproot the permroot now is that when you use titainium backup before you do the rest of your steps .
Also he main reason I want to do this is because I want to increase the battery life is that reason enough do you think
Correct. Backup after you achieved root but before modifying stuff.
As for battery life: I didn't really notice a major improvement over stock. While on stock I performed the charging sequence to improve it and that did help a lot.
Leedroid's new kernel 2.0.5 is supposed to be great for battery life but I have not installed that yet I'll wait to see if bugs appear first . If you want to install a new kernel just use step 21 in my guide. No need to wipe or anything.
Radio versions can also have a serious impact on battery life. But that is a trial and error thing since it depends on your location and such.
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Thanks again for this post. Its good to have everything in one thread, then you can refer to the individual threads for further info. It helped me do my first ROM install and have since played and messed, upgraded kernels etc.
Just about to wipe and start again
Cheers Braind77 i followed your tutorial and now i have r2d2 on reboots thanks very much, what seemed to be daunting at first read was very concise and easy to follow .
So now that I have done this I can remove anything off the phone i don't want now , tha's correct I assume
very detailed guide there for noobs like me. but i like to know if i want to use Titanium Backup to backup my stock rom n i want to flash my rom to Revolution HD, how do i do it?
@Kaptone. Once you are rooted and have ENG S-OFF (engineering security off) you can do pretty much everything you want. Be careful though. Deleting things can mess stuff up pretty bad. Don't delete unless you really know what it is you are deleting. And custom roms are pretty clean to start with.
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foccacia said:
very detailed guide there for noobs like me. but i like to know if i want to use Titanium Backup to backup my stock rom n i want to flash my rom to Revolution HD, how do i do it?
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TiBackup is only used to backup data, apps and settings. The real safetynet is the "nandroid" backup (step 14), which is sort of like a system image.
I recently read posts about problems with the latest CWM Recovery (the actual backup program) so it might be a good idea to check that out. After all, what is the use of a bad backup?
It doesn't matter which ROM you want to use. The procedure is the same. The only thing that might differ is the recommended Radio.
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@briand77 -- Nice tutorial, it's good to have everything in one place, if only this was available a few months ago it would have save me a lot of forum searching lol!
Might be best though to see if you can move it to the Development Forum? I'm not sure Q&A many people would find it properly. It'd be a shame for not many people to find it.
@superdon -- I too was with the pain-in-the-ass that is Orange with all their Orange software/wallpapers/ringtones/general rubbish. That was my main reason in rooting mine. In terms of warranty purposes, I made an Orange backup as soon as I was able to boot into recovery mode so that the only thing that had changed to my stock ROM was S-Off and root. Apparently there are ways to put S-Off back on but in my eyes, if the phone is broken and this was down to a software problem, you'd have to be seriously unlucky to brick it. I've not read up on anyone bricking theirs yet. There always seems to be a way back as long as you follow instructions properly!
Battery wise I'm on the 2.0.5 kernel, doesn't seem to be much change to battery but then it's always going to be different for different people. I don't use many widgets, got rid of friend stream/stocks/twitter/news etc so mine lasts quite well. I only lose 6% battery overnight and am pretty much able to go two days now with moderately heavy usage out of it.
Hello all.
I have a t-mobile g2, currently S-OFF, which is sitting in hboot/fastboot right now. I will not boot past the HTC screen.
I attained root last night using this method, and it worked without problems. I then gave a few apps (terminal and shark, to be precise) superuser access. Went to sleep.
This morning, I wanted to delete some apps and change some system fonts around (wanted to use the ubuntu font instead of droidsans). deleted photobucket at amazon mp3. while trying to change the fonts, I changed permissions on the /system/ folder to 777 (chmod 777 /system/). Changing the fonts wasn't working out, so i decided to leave it alone and just reboot my device. upon reboot, it would no longer boot past the htc boot screen. It will, however, go into hboot/fastboot mode without a problem. I tried going into recovery mode and using the update.zip (e4aaacea73af.OTA_Vision_TMUS_1.22.531.8-1.1.19.531.1_release_signed.zip renamed). No luck. Also, i tried researching on the forums and using adb to try to unbrick, but adb doesn't recognize any device being plugged in. fastboot did work, though, and i wrote the original recovery.img file into the phone (although I don't know where it goes when this is done...) and now I don't know where to go next. any help?
Try wiping your data and flashing a new rom on there. Some roms have a OC kernel so I would also make sure u know what kind of kernel the rom has. If its OCed I would download o non OCed kernel. Reason being some are like OCed to the max which makes the phone not boot, and when turned off sleeping doesn't want to turn back on.
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Vandale said:
Try wiping your data and flashing a new rom on there. Some roms have a OC kernel so I would also make sure u know what kind of kernel the rom has. If its OCed I would download o non OCed kernel. Reason being some are like OCed to the max which makes the phone not boot, and when turned off sleeping doesn't want to turn back on.
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I had stock android that came with the phone, I just got it about a week ago. Is there any way to find the standard/stock android rom for the g2? if anyone could link it and let me know how to flash it, that would be amazing.
Update:
I've been doing a bit more research, and I found that it might be possible to flash a stock rom (PC10IMG.zip). I downloaded the TMOUS one provided in this thread and shortened it to PC10IMG.zip. Once I do that, I go into Hboot, and when it checks for the different nbh/zip images, it always tells me "no image"/"no image or wrong image!". HELP!!!
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Update:
I've been doing a bit more research, and I found that it might be possible to flash a stock rom (PC10IMG.zip). I downloaded the TMOUS one provided in this thread and shortened it to PC10IMG.zip. Once I do that, I go into Hboot, and when it checks for the different nbh/zip images, it always tells me "no image"/"no image or wrong image!". HELP!!!
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Which one did you download? The first few on there were pre-release ROMs. The 1.19.531.1 ROM was the release ROM originally. Most recent G2's come with 1.22 (the OTA update) pre-installed, which we do not currently have a PC10IMG.zip for. If your G2 had 1.22 (e.g., you already had wifi-calling and tethering), you won't be able to use the 1.19 PC10IMG unless you used gfree to obtain S-OFF. If you did not (i.e., you only flashed the engineering HBOOT), you should not try to flash this file (it will replace your HBOOT with the shipping version and then quit mid-flash because it sees you already have a higher version installed). Even if you did obtain S-OFF with gfree, flashing this file will cause you to lose your engineering HBOOT and root (though you will still have S-OFF, so it's easy to re-root).
As was stated earlier, the easiest/best thing to do at this point is flash a custom ROM. If you still want the stock look-and-feel, here is a pre-rooted stock G2 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836042. You want to flash it through ClockworkMod recovery. I'm assuming you hadn't installed this already or you would have a backup of your ROM that you could have simply restored. You can install ClockworkMod recovery through fastboot though (there is a thread in the dev section or you can search for one of the many guides on it).
Also, you will probably want to get the de-odex version of the stock ROM. If you are doing any kind of theming or UI modifications, that is usually required (or your changes will cause a bootloop). Without knowing the details of what you tried to do, I'm guessing this is what happened to you (since the stock ROM is odex'ed).
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As was stated earlier, the easiest/best thing to do at this point is flash a custom ROM. If you still want the stock look-and-feel, here is a pre-rooted stock G2 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836042. You want to flash it through ClockworkMod recovery. I'm assuming you hadn't installed this already or you would have a backup of your ROM that you could have simply restored. You can install ClockworkMod recovery through fastboot though (there is a thread in the dev section or you can search for one of the many guides on it).
Also, you will probably want to get the de-odex version of the stock ROM. If you are doing any kind of theming or UI modifications, that is usually required (or your changes will cause a bootloop). Without knowing the details of what you tried to do, I'm guessing this is what happened to you (since the stock ROM is odex'ed).
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Do you mean this thread? I have been trying to follow along and it's a bit confusing (although I feel that's due largely in part to grammatical/usage errors). what you are saying does help a lot though. I just need to learn how to install Clockworkmod Recovery through fastboot. *googles away* in the meantime, feel free to link me to another thread which helps me do this. Thanks a million.
UPDATE:
I finally figured out what I was doing. So I used fastboot to flash a clockworkmod recovery.img onto my g2. When I went to recovery, after booting into hboot, it went to the HTC screen, as it should. Guess what I got? loopboot, once again T_T. Luckily I still have the official recovery.img, and reflashed that. Did I do something wrong? Please let me know.
consciousdawn said:
UPDATE:
I finally figured out what I was doing. So I used fastboot to flash a clockworkmod recovery.img onto my g2. When I went to recovery, after booting into hboot, it went to the HTC screen, as it should. Guess what I got? loopboot, once again T_T. Luckily I still have the official recovery.img, and reflashed that. Did I do something wrong? Please let me know.
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Wait, so what exactly happened? You entered the bootloader (white screen with green Android guys at the bottom), selected to enter recovery (using volume down and power button to select), and then was presented with an HTC logo? That means ClockworkMod recovery did not successfully flash. Did you get any errors when you used flashboot?
That's exactly what happened, and no, not at all. It said it flashed successfully. Maybe I don't have the correct version of Clockworkmod? If you could please link me to a good one, that would be great.
UPDATE!!
So I found an official clockworkmod 2.5.1.2, and now when I boot into recovery, it shows the HTC logo and then goes to clockworkmod. This is amazing. Thank you guys for all your help, I have learned something new today.
Now, can someone explain the difference between odexed and deodexed? please? lol.
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Wait, so what exactly happened? You entered the bootloader (white screen with green Android guys at the bottom), selected to enter recovery (using volume down and power button to select), and then was presented with an HTC logo? That means ClockworkMod recovery did not successfully flash. Did you get any errors when you used flashboot?
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Looks like I cried victory too quickly. While I do get the menu for clockworkmod (every time I boot, for that matter), every time I issue a command, such as reboot now, or install from SDcard, and even advanced, the screen goes black. GRRR, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? I've been at this since about 1 today T_T
Just wanted to say that I'm the biggest noob on the planet. While I did upgrade to cwm 3.0.0.5, i didn't know it allowed the use of the main controls. I got my phone up and running now. Thank you for all the help. Good night :]
I have had my G2 for about 18 months and have been running into a lot of issues recently. I've decided to fix those issues by rooting & getting a new ROM installed. I'm a tech savvy guy, but have not done anything on the phone end due to not wanting to break whats working. I've decided to go with the Mimicry 1.3.2 ROM since the install process uses Aroma and is very straight forward. Before I pull the trigger, I just want to make sure I have all the steps clear so that I don't go "Oh sh**" in the middle because I missed a step. There's also a couple of steps that I'm not clear on. Here's what I researched:
-Root phone using HTC's bootloader unlocker
-Format phone's flash memory to EXT4
--What is the best app to do this with? Will my phone work with Gingerbread after I make this change?
-Download Mimicry 1.3.2 and Google Apps put the zip files on my phone (not SD card)
-Power off phone and then push the volume down and power buttons together and choose to install the ROM
-Answer prompts in Aroma (including installing WiFi calling)
-Flash Google apps
--How exactly is that done?
-Restart phone and start setting up apps again.
Does that look correct and is there anything that I'm missing? Thank you in advance for your help.
Well first off I would stay away from HTC official unlocked bootloader, its worthless and will give you headaches in the future
use the wiki to root, either follow the wiki in cyanogen or here on xda, if you even slightly tech savvy it will be easy
following that guide you will have clockwork recovery, but I suggest moving to 4ext recovery, among many reasons is the ability to format to ext4. Otherwise the next easiest way to format would be to flash a super wipe script with ext4 format written to it (just search xda and you'll find it easier)
Now after you are rooted with an engineering s-off hboot consider flash the .19 radio, not super important but many find this to have the best reception and battery life.
Next make sure your SD card is fat32, I also suggest an ext4 partition there as well (easily done through recovery) but skip the swap
Now feel free to flash mimicry, and may I add this is one other best ICS Roms for the vision, and blk_jck is a very helpful Dev as well.
Good luck, if you run into issues there will be answers all over xda, just search a bit, happy flashing!
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Thanks for the heads up on the HTC bootloader. I'll check out the Wiki on how to PermRoot my phone.
Mimicry, recovery, soft bricks, and new ROM
Agree with demkantor, the step-by-steps so painstakingly described in cyanwiki are your best bet.
Likewise, using 4ext in place of clockwork is also my recommendation, as I've used both now and
find the latter more polished and stable.
I recently rooted and updated for the first time. Got successfully as far as ICS using cyan's instruction,
then decided to use mimicry after reading about the radio updates etc posted by madmaxx. I think the sequence in which i
carried these out was flawed, because after updating the radio instruction sets, I re-flashed mimicry to take advantage of the
updated radio features and to install the wi-fi telephony; that was my downfall. I got caught in a boot-loop. Oh sh*t, indeed.
I could not, for the life of me, get past the HTC white screen. Being a total noob, I had no
idea where to go to next. I searched this website and cyan's a lot, and realised the term for what I now had was a 'soft
brick' or 'semi brick'. Could not get the device to be recognised via ADB, and could not access the sdcard directory.
I scratched my head for a few days (I had bought another phone prior to playing with the old G2), and came up with the
idea of just accessing the sdcard via my laptop, directly. In the midst of this, I turned on the phone (after taking the card
out), and voila, the phone now cycled into engineering hboot !
I subsequently was able to edit the sdcard directly via the laptop (using an micro sd card adapter), and removed the pc10?.img file
that was left over the radio update. Having recovered to this point, I re-flashed mimicry 1.3.1 (via 4ext) and so was able to get a completely
functional phone again.
The point of all of the is this: 1. To all the previous post-ers, both here and at cyanwiki...You guys rock. Can't say that enough. Even more:
2. A 'soft brick' may be anything but...a little bit of not-very-complicated experimentation afterward can pay off big time. Lastly, I tried
mimicry 1.3.2, but kept getting a heap of error messages. Needless to say, I was a bit spooked by the previous stuff-up, so I quickly reverted
to 1.3.1, which appears to be 100% stable (IMHO).
Cheers
1.3.2 adds few framework level changes and no device level changes. Definitely nothing that should cause errors or problems booting anyway.
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timram said:
Agree with demkantor, the step-by-steps so painstakingly described in cyanwiki are your best bet.
Likewise, using 4ext in place of clockwork is also my recommendation, as I've used both now and
find the latter more polished and stable.
I recently rooted and updated for the first time. Got successfully as far as ICS using cyan's instruction,
then decided to use mimicry after reading about the radio updates etc posted by madmaxx. I think the sequence in which i
carried these out was flawed, because after updating the radio instruction sets, I re-flashed mimicry to take advantage of the
updated radio features and to install the wi-fi telephony; that was my downfall. I got caught in a boot-loop. Oh sh*t, indeed.
I could not, for the life of me, get past the HTC white screen. Being a total noob, I had no
idea where to go to next. I searched this website and cyan's a lot, and realised the term for what I now had was a 'soft
brick' or 'semi brick'. Could not get the device to be recognised via ADB, and could not access the sdcard directory.
I scratched my head for a few days (I had bought another phone prior to playing with the old G2), and came up with the
idea of just accessing the sdcard via my laptop, directly. In the midst of this, I turned on the phone (after taking the card
out), and voila, the phone now cycled into engineering hboot !
I subsequently was able to edit the sdcard directly via the laptop (using an micro sd card adapter), and removed the pc10?.img file
that was left over the radio update. Having recovered to this point, I re-flashed mimicry 1.3.1 (via 4ext) and so was able to get a completely
functional phone again.
The point of all of the is this: 1. To all the previous post-ers, both here and at cyanwiki...You guys rock. Can't say that enough. Even more:
2. A 'soft brick' may be anything but...a little bit of not-very-complicated experimentation afterward can pay off big time. Lastly, I tried
mimicry 1.3.2, but kept getting a heap of error messages. Needless to say, I was a bit spooked by the previous stuff-up, so I quickly reverted
to 1.3.1, which appears to be 100% stable (IMHO).
Cheers
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Thanks for that info. I am taking a look at the Cyanogen Wiki and seeing what I have to do. I'm thinking that I will jump directly to Mimicry 1.3.2 instead of installing Cyanogen 9 first. Hopefully that file doesn't hang out there and causes that boot loop to happen to me (thanks for that explanation, BTW).
So do I have to use that ClockworkMod to load the ROM, or does EXT4 do the same thing (as far as loading the rom goes)?
...where thanks is due
many thx, blk jack, I should have specifically mentioned your awesome contributions as well, and
have remedied with thanks meter as i came/come across it.
Will re-try the 1.3.2 shortly. If I run in to the same glitches, I will try and make note of the specific errors
(or any other bugs, for that matter) and let you know.
Use the following guide, it is incredibly simple yet swift. Contains root methods for both the DesireZ and the T-Mobile G2 :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_G2:_Rooting
Checking it out now
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Use the following guide, it is incredibly simple yet swift. Contains root methods for both the DesireZ and the T-Mobile G2 :
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I'm actually looking at that wiki right now. I just finished backing up all the contents on my SD card. I can't backup the apps on my phone since it's not rooted, and I can't use a backup app unless I'm root. So it looks like that is a catch 22. Personally, I don't mind wiping everything anyways since I'm going to be making the jump to ICS. I guess I'll have to beat all those levels in cut the rope again :crying:
@deadeye
actually, the only important bits are your contacts, sms's, phone logs, etc (if these matter to you), which i think you can backup via gmail. Additionally, any other (or all) files on the SD card, you should be able to just copy directly onto a folder in your laptop or desktop (see the post I made above). HTH.
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@deadeye
actually, the only important bits are your contacts, sms's, phone logs, etc (if these matter to you), which i think you can backup via gmail. Additionally, any other (or all) files on the SD card, you should be able to just copy directly onto a folder in your laptop or desktop (see the post I made above). HTH.
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Thanks for that. I've now downloaded the Android SDK and am now trying to test the connection to my G2 using adb. So far, no connection. Grrrr. I'm looking around now to see how to get my phone detected by adb since it doesn't seem to have anything on the cyanogen wiki.
you downloaded adb.exe from within the sdk right? find the folder it is in (usualy platform tools) hold shift right click within the folder and choose open command here
now type adb devices, you should se some letters and numbers that means you good if not need to trouble shoot some more
alternatively you can change the path within enviromental variables so you can open a cmd anywhere
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you downloaded adb.exe from within the sdk right? find the folder it is in (usualy platform tools) hold shift right click within the folder and choose open command here
now type adb devices, you should se some letters and numbers that means you good if not need to trouble shoot some more
alternatively you can change the path within enviromental variables so you can open a cmd anywhere
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I tried the adb devices command and it didn't return any connected devices. Looking in the xda wiki, they are saying that I need to have HTC Sync installed. I'm downloading that right now. They probably should put that in the cyanogenmod wiki also.
I got my phone detected by adb! I did some preliminary checking and I think I should be good to go on rooting. I think I will root my phone tomorrow when I have plenty of time to troubleshoot any issues that my come up.
This is just the thread I was looking for. I'm also an old (60) tech-savvy guy who has never rooted his phone, and was nervous about which set of rooting instructions (cyan-wiki or Setherio/Strawmetal?; the latter is more recently updated, seems a bit more detailed, and has newer versions of some utilities) which recovery, ClockworkMod or ext4, and which ROM, Cm9 unofficial or mimicry or even AOKP...
You all seem to feel cyan-wiki instructions better (right?) ext4 and mimicry... Shall I go for it? Last suggestions?
Thanks,
Dave
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You all seem to feel cyan-wiki instructions better (right?) ext4 and mimicry... Shall I go for it? Last suggestions?
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Cyan wiki worked for me! (strawmetal didn't - I blame myself though).
ext4 and mimicry are what I'm running now (after going through CWM, CM 7.2 and CM9 RC1 & RC2) and I'm very happy with both. Mimicry is great!
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This is just the thread I was looking for. I'm also an old (60) tech-savvy guy who has never rooted his phone, and was nervous about which set of rooting instructions (cyan-wiki or Setherio/Strawmetal?; the latter is more recently updated, seems a bit more detailed, and has newer versions of some utilities) which recovery, ClockworkMod or ext4, and which ROM, Cm9 unofficial or mimicry or even AOKP...
You all seem to feel cyan-wiki instructions better (right?) ext4 and mimicry... Shall I go for it? Last suggestions?
Thanks,
Dave
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setherios guide is just for the downgrade process
the cyanogen wiki, xda wiki, and strawmetals pdf guide are all more or less the same guide, just writen a tad differently
as for the recovery 4ext is far superior but feel free to switch recoveries later if it complicates thing, very easy to do
as for a rom choice there are many good ones and it will be hard to recommened one so try a few, make nandroid backups, and see where your prefernce lies. if you like ics then my personal opinions are elitemod ics or mimicry, both are great. don't care much for sense so you will have to explore by yourself on those (you will need the dz hboot if you want any sense roms - easily done)
if you want gingerbread try ilwt or elitemod cm7 (this is still the rom I almost always use, even curently)
have fun, read, read some more, search when stuck... this is should all be easy as you say your tech savvy - happy flashing!
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minor glitches, but rooted and s-off fine
demkantor said:
setherios guide is just for the downgrade process
the cyanogen wiki, xda wiki, and strawmetals pdf guide are all more or less the same guide, just writen a tad differently
as for the recovery 4ext is far superior but feel free to switch recoveries later if it complicates thing, very easy to do
as for a rom choice there are many good ones and it will be hard to recommened one so try a few, make nandroid backups, and see where your prefernce lies. if you like ics then my personal opinions are elitemod ics or mimicry, both are great. don't care much for sense so you will have to explore by yourself on those (you will need the dz hboot if you want any sense roms - easily done)
if you want gingerbread try ilwt or elitemod cm7 (this is still the rom I almost always use, even curently)
have fun, read, read some more, search when stuck... this is should all be easy as you say your tech savvy - happy flashing!
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all went well till the very, very, very end. I went to reboot into clockwork recovery, and...nothing doing! holding down the trackball, volume down and power...and waiting and waiting...just got me into the bootloader with no option to go to recovery...just reboot, reboot the boot loader, and power down.
So I thought, maybe I somehow failed to get the recovery img where I wanted it...no big deal. I logged onto the old Market (this is 2.2, after all) and purchased 4ext (which is what seems to be everyone's choice) and installed it. Then I said I wanted to reboot with mimicry and gapps, hit "go," and...it rebooted into ClockworkMod Recovery...where it now sits, I assume backing up the existing system. Mimicry 1.3.2 and gapps images were sitting on my sdcard root, btw.
Very odd, and a little perplexing...I will wait it out a while before powering off and up again.
any thoughts? Must I remove clockwork mod manually (I assume that when I installed 4ext it made itselfthe default recovery method...) or does 4ext just sit atop Clockwork Mod...and what I am seeing now is normal...? I've been waiting a few minutes now, and see nothing but the Clockword Mod icon, the top hat.
Sigh...but pretty clearly almost all the way home.
Thanks to all,
dave
I've never used an app to install a recovery, always used fastboot.
But to answer your question 4ext does replace clockwork, it does not sit on top of it. Just downloading the app well... downloads the app. You must then go into the app and choose to download and install the recovery, after this from within the recovery flash your ROM (and gapps etc. If needed)
I have the 4ext app just for the purpose of supporting the Dev as anything that does me good deserves my money but I really have never bothered much with it so off hand I can't tell you the exact steps to do this but I'm sure it s very straight forward.
Good luck and let us know how all turns out
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darn ClockWorkMod/4ext clash!
demkantor said:
I've never used an app to install a recovery, always used fastboot.
But to answer your question 4ext does replace clockwork, it does not sit on top of it. Just downloading the app well... downloads the app. You must then go into the app and choose to download and install the recovery, after this from within the recovery flash your ROM (and gapps etc. If needed)
I have the 4ext app just for the purpose of supporting the Dev as anything that does me good deserves my money but I really have never bothered much with it so off hand I can't tell you the exact steps to do this but I'm sure it s very straight forward.
Good luck and let us know how all turns out
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Thanks...I sat and looked at it for a while, then hit power, and up came the ClockworkMod menu...and did nothing. When I asked _it_ to load a zip from the sdcard...it still sat there stupidly...nice menu but no action. so I rebooted with trackball/volume-down and power...and still can't get to the bootloader menu...the only way is to attach via usb, and do adb reboot bootloader...which gives me a bootloader menu showing no recovery app...just the same options as before. ugh. I wonder what the recovery.img is...? I went through the steps of installing 4ext...and it said it had installed itself.
well, I will poke around a tad more...midnight now...at least I have a working phone on 2.2, rooted, S-OFF, etc.
dave
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prairie-dad said:
Thanks...I sat and looked at it for a while, then hit power, and up came the ClockworkMod menu...and did nothing. When I asked _it_ to load a zip from the sdcard...it still sat there stupidly...nice menu but no action. so I rebooted with trackball/volume-down and power...and still can't get to the bootloader menu...the only way is to attach via usb, and do adb reboot bootloader...which gives me a bootloader menu showing no recovery app...just the same options as before. ugh. I wonder what the recovery.img is...? I went through the steps of installing 4ext...and it said it had installed itself.
well, I will poke around a tad more...midnight now...at least I have a working phone on 2.2, rooted, S-OFF, etc.
dave
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Mimicry is booting now. All good. I ended up using the clockwork mod version, 3. something, that I installed when following (too slavishly?) the CM wiki's instructions (otherwise excellent!) Then (and now) I have problems booting into the bootloader, and it doesn't show a recovery option... Running 4ext (which I purchased) seems to be great (looks really useful) until rebooting...when CWM comes up instead.
I kept using volume up or down to pick what I wanted, then pushed the power button to select...wrong! It's the trackball you click, which I only hit upon by accident. Once I got that working, I flashed mimicry and Gapps, and I am off to the races again.
Thanks to all, but I want to figure out what is with recovery for the future.
What buttons do I push to get to bootloader...so far all I have gotten to work is via USB cable and "dab reboot boot loader."
dave
Hello,
I've only just got this HTC Wildfire but nearly all apps say they are not compatible, so I thought I would try to update, but seem to be hitting problems:
Android version: 2.2.1
HBOOT-1.01.001
Boot menu: HBOOT BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
Initially tried the links to unrevoked but the downloads always seem to time out
Now I tried the [Full Guide] All in one...
I've managed to install the HTCSync drivers OK
I've updated the Android 1.0 driver from the all-in-one package, but when I'm in the boot menu, my Windows XP machine give an error message
- something about a device problem, to try again and if it fails to replace the device. On a different USB port the device driver reports that it failed to start.
Anyway, I ran revolutionary from the all-in-one package but, not surprisingly, it got stuck - it was waiting for fastboot - which is reasonable if the device isn't being recognised.
So, what can anyone suggest?
- If HBOOT already reports S-OFF, can I skip this and still install a newer ROM? If so, how - if I don't have the revolutionary S-OFF?
- Should I give up with Windows and try Linux?
There is a good chance, I suppose , that I have missed something fairly obvious - applogies if that is the case.
I look forward nto any suggestions you may have.
Cheers
dusty_bin said:
Hello,
I've only just got this HTC Wildfire but nearly all apps say they are not compatible, so I thought I would try to update, but seem to be hitting problems:
Android version: 2.2.1
HBOOT-1.01.001
Boot menu: HBOOT BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
Initially tried the links to unrevoked but the downloads always seem to time out
Now I tried the [Full Guide] All in one...
I've managed to install the HTCSync drivers OK
I've updated the Android 1.0 driver from the all-in-one package, but when I'm in the boot menu, my Windows XP machine give an error message
- something about a device problem, to try again and if it fails to replace the device. On a different USB port the device driver reports that it failed to start.
Anyway, I ran revolutionary from the all-in-one package but, not surprisingly, it got stuck - it was waiting for fastboot - which is reasonable if the device isn't being recognised.
So, what can anyone suggest?
- If HBOOT already reports S-OFF, can I skip this and still install a newer ROM? If so, how - if I don't have the revolutionary S-OFF?
- Should I give up with Windows and try Linux?
There is a good chance, I suppose , that I have missed something fairly obvious - applogies if that is the case.
I look forward nto any suggestions you may have.
Cheers
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Hey pal
take the attached file and rename it to pc49img.zip and put it onto your sdcard. boot the phone into hboot with the sdcard in and the hboot should ask you to update, select yes.
this will add a custom recovery to your device. once this has completed remove the file from your sdcard via computer and then move back to the phone. reboot into hboot and select recovery using the volume rocker and hit power to enter it,
now your ready to go as far as flashing a custom rom is concerned. i would strongly advise making a nandroid backup as this is your main way to restore your phone if issues occur.
the controls for clockworkmod recovery are different from hboot, the can be found in one of my how too threads if you get lost. most of the roms in the dev section have instructions in thier OP for flashing them so just browse around and remember the limitations of this phone, updates wont make it epic but if you use cm7 or higher you should get market apps again.
Good luck and enjoy browsing our corner of the forum
heavy_metal_man said:
Hey pal
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the controls for clockworkmod recovery are different from hboot, the can be found in one of my how too threads if you get lost. most of the roms in the dev section have instructions in thier OP for flashing them so just browse around and remember the limitations of this phone, updates wont make it epic but if you use cm7 or higher you should get market apps again.
Good luck and enjoy browsing our corner of the forum
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Hi and thanks.
Before I saw your message I had managed to get through the revolutionary issue by using the secon USB port and removing and reinserting the USB plug each time it got stuck. Now I think of it, I has also reinstalled the drivers using the HTCdriver.exe file before that but still had the same issues as before.
Anyway it didn't seem to change anything except that Revolutionary message at the top of the HBOOT screen.
Now I have flashed the image file you possed and I can get into the CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8 menu screen. I got stuck at that point but went to you FAQ post to reconfirm that the power button should select the menu item, but it doesn't. Well, it just flips between the menu sceen (with the orange circular arrow behind) and the hat with the circular arrow - but nothing happens.
So I'm back to scratching my head...
Anyway, thanks again - I've managed to get a bit further and would be interested in any further thoughts you may have
dusty_bin said:
Hi and thanks.
Before I saw your message I had managed to get through the revolutionary issue by using the secon USB port and removing and reinserting the USB plug each time it got stuck. Now I think of it, I has also reinstalled the drivers using the HTCdriver.exe file before that but still had the same issues as before.
Anyway it didn't seem to change anything except that Revolutionary message at the top of the HBOOT screen.
Now I have flashed the image file you possed and I can get into the CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8 menu screen. I got stuck at that point but went to you FAQ post to reconfirm that the power button should select the menu item, but it doesn't. Well, it just flips between the menu sceen (with the orange circular arrow behind) and the hat with the circular arrow - but nothing happens.
So I'm back to scratching my head...
Anyway, thanks again - I've managed to get a bit further and would be interested in any further thoughts you may have
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When in clockworkmod recovery you need to press the trackball button to select instead of using power
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heavy_metal_man said:
When in clockworkmod recovery you need to press the trackball button to select instead of using power
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Oops - that's rather embarrassing.
I thought I had read power button or trackball and, although I had seen trackball mentioned before, I had never knowingly used it and certainly hadn't realised where it was or that there was a button function associated with it
Next, I'll check out your nandroid backup app recommendation, although I don't really have much on this phone yet. I did a backup from CWM already.
In the set of files I have downloaded while reading various threads , I have cm-7.2.0-buzz.zip and cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-buzz.zip. I suppose either of these should be fine, or do you have some other recommendation?
Thanks - I appreciate your patience...
dusty_bin said:
Next, I'll check out your nandroid backup app recommendation, although I don't really have much on this phone yet. I did a backup from CWM already.
In the set of files I have downloaded while reading various threads , I have cm-7.2.0-buzz.zip and cm-7-20130301-NIGHTLY-buzz.zip. I suppose either of these should be fine, or do you have some other recommendation?
Thanks - I appreciate your patience...
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Its all good pal the back up you made from recovery Is a nandroid back up (from a fusion of the words nand and android I believe. Nand being the memory type used in older android phones) I would recommend any cm7 7.2.x roms as they are very stable usually. Remember that you will also need flash gapps (Google apps) for cm7 which can normally be found in the roms description.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Its all good pal the back up you made from recovery Is a nandroid back up (from a fusion of the words nand and android I believe. Nand being the memory type used in older android phones) I would recommend any cm7 7.2.x roms as they are very stable usually. Remember that you will also need flash gapps (Google apps) for cm7 which can normally be found in the roms description.
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Cheers -I installed the cm 7.2.0 file and gapps - and everything went fine this time :victory:
It looks like the next challenges wil be to avoid running out of memory - the phone memory is already down to 20 MB even though I've moved all the apps I can to the SD card. Working out where everything is in new settings menu can be quite interesting too
One final question: if I want to install the later version of cm7 (or an even higher version), can I just use 'upgrade from SD card' from the CWM menu item, to avoid having to reinstall everything?
Thanks again!
Yes and no. if your upgrading to a later version of cm7, IE 7.2.3 or 7.3 you could flash it over your rom with minimal issues but if your changing android version dramatically like from gingerbread to Ice cream sandwich or jelly bean then a full wipe is recommended along with nandroid backup before flashing or wiping anything