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Want to remind you..

Hey guys,
As you have probably noticed, the development at the desire has quite "stopped"
Many devs are really "busy" and others have abandoned the desire.
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
I personally think it's time to move on to a next device.
What you guys think?
Will there come more desire devs? or will this be the "end"?
Bout kernels: Once they told us, when open source kernel is released, the desire will be muchhhhh better, but I personally think there hasn't change much!
Kernels are still not as they should be, 1 kernel got lockscreen lag or batt drain, others freeze. Know what imsaying?
I'm not saying the devs are that bad, but this is the end to me I think.
Share you'r opinion below!
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Nick

I couldn't agree more!

nickislauw said:
The ONLY working dev is Coolexe or MichaelM.
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Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?

rootSU said:
Complete fabrication! What about Kali-, RichardTrip and myself?
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kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$

nickislauw said:
kali isn't really a dev? he's just posting the CM builds.
Richardtrip only updates his rom when there's a new cm build, so not very interesting too!
And you'r latest update was 22 sept
Think you have to agree me ;$
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ooooh 1 whole month ago. Actually I am working on a build now but quality is more important to me than getting out updates every 2 days.
But to say there are only 2 devs working on the desire is completely wrong and I find your posts not only offensive but also inaccurate and counter productive.
Edit> Also forgot to mention Droidzone and Sibere, then all the kernel devs. not all devs build roms.
And Kali- is a dev,. he doesn't just "post builds" if you look at his git hub you can see his commits,.
Worst thread ever!

Well I see it more dimensional:
1. Sense: it seems like really slowed down a bit, but on the other hand Sense 3.5 was available very quickly. Dridzone is also contributing here (piety he resists newer Sense for now).
2. ASOP: CM7 + bunch of other ROMs - well CM is stable, rest is fluctuating (for me it is only CM that seems interesting)
3. MIUI: active
Actually now is the time to wait for ICS sourcecode to enable further milestone. I guess Sense will decrease in popularity with ICS based CM9 released. For me the only thing thet stops me from CM7 as daily are Exchange ActiveSync issues.
Piety that for few days now both Coolexe and michelm_007 remain silent. Anyway DHD seems to be the main driver of HTC community - Desire seems to rather follow, not drive progress (in matter of new sense porting). Tha is basically due to small internal memory that is the main step to consider when porting some new ROMS. The speed issue due to obsolete platform (CPU/GPU) is also stronger here from DHD, so it really is the fade out period for the Sense on Desire. Next Sense will most likely be even more difficult to be run smoothly...

Sense will gain popularity again when Sense 4.0 on top of Android 4.0 D) will be released.

Dont see that running on the trusty Desire though

RootSU,
I didn't want to be rude,
But I think you understand that this desire community isn't how its supposed to be.
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
It's not completely dead but its silent here in the rom section.
Hope you understand my point

I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

nickislauw said:
RootSU,
You have to agree that the BEST devs abonded, like baadnewz, robocik, leedroid (comes back)
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How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.

zedmarcus said:
How rude are you to the devs who are still supporting the Desire???
If you're unhappy with what's happening here, go play somewhere else. Don't insult the devs who are still working hard on Desire roms.
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Cmon read the whole thread man!

rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
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Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.

nickislauw said:
Cmon read the whole thread man!
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I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.

nickislauw said:
Yeah ok 2 isn't right.
But there were MUCH more devs, and many of them are gone.
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isnt it logical that people move on to new devices, including the devs? no point stating the obvious in a thread here... just stick with whats left of the desire community, start developing yourself or abandon ship and go for a newer device... you should at least be thankful for all that has been done for our awesome device so far...
*note* im not bashing you in any way, its just that i think the way you wrote the OP is pointless. you can move on to a Nexus device where the development doesnt stop till the devs faint from working overtime...
Sent from the infinity and beyond...

zedmarcus said:
I read the whole thread man, and you were insulting from your first post to your last.
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What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?

rootSU said:
I understand that the desire is phasing out. I only debate the fact that there are only 2 active devs. I just think you're exaggerating the situation, be that knowingly or otherwise.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.

Terepin said:
He is right about one thing, though. Kernels still sucks even months after release of source code.
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This. I even flashed AuraxTSense again for a brief period before changing ship to aosp because of this.
It is only natural that people continue developing elsewhere, depending on where they upgraded. You can't expect them to support old device like you can't expect from HTC. Neither party involved has superhuman abilities, so I can't say anything but great thanks for making Desire more pleasurable to use than it already was.
The thing that concerns me are the reasons both Neophyte and AdamG went. Rapid deterioration of community and quality of information available in the period of last 12 months. Both these great devs went explicitly because of that (one for good and one to his respective forum).

Terepin said:
What, your girlfriend didn't give you sex?
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lolz... Terepin trying to make up for his small weiner again

Oh no this all cant be true! I have finally rooted and put my first rom on.....only took me about 18 months. Ah well, a few months time and it will be upgrade time. Still, for me it seems so new.

Delete This

Delete This

You better delete this. There is a reason these roms are not on xda
sent with love from me to you

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habarug said:
you better delete this. There is a reason these roms are not on xda
sent with love from me to you
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and why is that ?

Sorry to say Feeyo was band so his work is not welcome here
Sent from my HTC Hero running Cronos Ginger X using Tapatalk

Arranmc182 said:
Sorry to say Feeyo was band so his work is not welcome here
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Damn! i had no idea how can i delete the thread ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7663719&postcount=802

could be fun to leave this "delete this" thread around for a little while before killing it off... I for one have plenty of things I'd like to say and then have deleted.
could we all just start posting random **** here with the knowledge that it will soon be deleted?
Like if we all had a chance to do something crazy and say whatever was on our minds and know that it would all be erased from history, what would each of us say?
heh heh

don u tripping?? sounds like u've been smoking alotta pot mate

bharat_goku said:
don u tripping?? sounds like u've been smoking alotta pot mate
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heh heh whooooaaahh
;-)
actually listening to radiohead while at work... radiohead messes with your head a bit...

wtf we all gonna get banned for bumping **** in this thread^^

Well only on the HTC Hero forums people are like AAA its feeyo stuff remove it :O
You guys ever looked on the magic forums? There is a cronos rom on there. and well mods never been in there to say. guys this is crap. remove it....
Most guys who go about this Feeyo stuff act like your 12 or something and your parents said. that is was utherly bad. But some logic thinking and objectiv reading you can see that it was just a stupid war who has the best rom. back then it was.... and it is still the case.
Now he is doing everything according to all the rules known, and well I think the more stuff we got, the more we can base stuff on it. I am so in the mood to post a topic about all the cronos roms XD and if I get banned then. Well then that is just silly and sad
Guys grow up. he was banned like a year a go?? The past is the past. and well he did get the GB roms to what we are currently using so we should remove all the GB roms?? cuss most stuff CM needed to get GB working commes from Feeyo. so lets delete all GB roms...
guess my point is clear. It is darn open source.. and you all act like its not.

Lirasina said:
guess my point is clear. It is darn open source.. and you all act like its not.
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LOL. That is an exact sentiment many have expressed about Feeyo, you're right Android is open source, but Feeyo did not follow the GNU/GPL guidelines. Hence the reason he was banned.

JieeHD said:
LOL. That is an exact sentiment many have expressed about Feeyo, you're right Android is open source, but Feeyo did not follow the GNU/GPL guidelines. Hence the reason he was banned.
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That is correct. But the stuff he creates now does follow those things, so there is no reason for not allowing someone to post it on XDA. Well it is easy, if I smash Fly13 in it and then post it. its a different rom :O

Lirasina said:
That is correct. But the stuff he creates now does follow those things, so there is no reason for not allowing someone to post it on XDA. Well it is easy, if I smash Fly13 in it and then post it. its a different rom :O
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Well if you can prove that Feeyo is regularly pushing and committing his changes to github or a similar code hosting site, then yes there wouldn't be a problem.
Also your second point, I totally disagree with, its not a different 'ROM' at all but merely the same 'ROM' but with an newer or older kernel. At best, its a patch.
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Lirasina said:
That is correct. But the stuff he creates now does follow those things, so there is no reason for not allowing someone to post it on XDA. Well it is easy, if I smash Fly13 in it and then post it. its a different rom :O
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I agree with you and also think that the whole thing is ironic since all sense roms and many other roms built on xda break rules also. but whatever... as JieeHD said, it doesn't adhere to GNU/GPL guidelines, but it isn't actually illegal to not follow those particular guidelines. It IS however not allowed and xda is big on gpl compliance, as it should be I suppose, so this all makes sense.
People get way too involved in defending the (imho rather flawed) GNU/GPL guidelines.
This is one reason why I only release software under much more open licenses. GNU/GPL is designed with good sharing values in mind but it unfortunately has proven to bring out a rather militant side of some people - which is the exact opposite to the values that brought together those of us who were the original developers of open source software back in the 80s.
The rules and regulations were originally added to prevent people from using open source code in commercial apps without giving full credit and asking permission first.
And the accusation was that Feeyo was doing that same thing - using open source code and yet not giving credit where it was due and claiming it was his own code in his kernel.
I have seen evidence showing both sides of the matter, both showing the code to be the same in parts, and yet the evidence has shown at times other devs to have written it before feeyo, and yet in other examples it has shown feeyo to have written it first before other devs.
He has stood his ground consistently as have the accusers in this case.
The problem, however, is that the guidelines of the gpl say that the developer must provide full source code when asked. So when feeyo has refused to do so, the assumption has always been that he has been stealing code or claiming other's code as his own.
When in fact, all he has ever been proven to have done that I'm aware of is not providing code when asked to do so. edit: and yes, this does break gpl guidelines... but it's always been considered a rather small infraction other than with Feeyo for some reason.
In the end he did change everything to comply and he has complied for the better part of a year now.
Since complying is all that is required to be free and legal again according to the gnu/gpl regulations, his roms and code should be fine to post here now.
however as a member he himself is still banned afaik. but if someone posts his work it should be just fine, and as noted other forums have no issue with his work and actually welcome it.
I was really involved in the whole thing and a friend of one of the people who was involved in feeyo being accused in the first case. But I also like feeyo and have a lot of respect for him as he has made great roms and his support is second to none.
Just adding my 3 cents worth ;-)

ryanraven said:
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Dude, you a are in danger now

Hectic! Don, you and others, have mentioned "the one of whom we shall not speak" again.
Just to clarify, are we at least allowed to talk about him? This sounds more and more like the law that the S.A. Government is trying to pass through our Parliament today. Objectors will be wearing black armbands in protest. The Govt. don't want to include a "Public Interest clause" ( relating to the Secrecy Act)in our constitution. This means that even if Govt. members have done something that can adversely affect the public at large, you can get a jail sentence of up to 15 years for even being in possession of such information, never mind divulging this information to anyone.
Makes you think Huh?

Okay... IF it is so that Feeyo now is publishing his code and all that... then I think we should do this the proper way and ASK the mods if they can remove the ban. As far I know It's just a temporary ban. So if you do this and the mods let him in, I'll never speak of "the unmentiomable" again
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Unfortunately it was a permaban after Feeyo broke rules by creating another acount whilst being temp banned.
I wish it were different, Feeyo is a great dev and for most of us has had a positive impact on the whole hero experience.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

and it's always exciting when he's here LoL.... ah, I miss the drama...

Doesn't seem to be much development for this phone?

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained. Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader. Anyone have some insight to share? I'm just curious is all, nothing against any of the devs. I appreciate any and all work put forward.

fatmando2 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained. Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader. Anyone have some insight to share? I'm just curious is all, nothing against any of the devs. I appreciate any and all work put forward.
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This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao

andybones said:
This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao
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Those are some good points, I thought with the popularity of this phone that even on verizon there were bound to be more developers though but maybe not. As far as the maxx goes I'm not much of a fan, it seems they could have put much more thought into it than they did..

fatmando2 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained.
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HTC hasn't even release the kernel sources for this phone yet.
Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader.
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No, there weren't. There were simply people taking stuff from this and that roms, tweaking some settings to their liking and posting the result as a rom.
There are actually only a limited number of original roms, because those take a lot of work to make, and there are teams of people maintaining them. These roms usually support most of the popular devices out there, so you aren't really missing anything. You can find a list of those here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_firmwares
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andybones said:
This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao
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Well the same can be said of all phones, since there's _always_ going to be a better phone coming right around the corner...

sadboyzz said:
HTC hasn't even release the kernel sources for this phone yet.
No, there weren't. There were simply people taking stuff from this and that roms, tweaking some settings to their liking and posting the result as a rom.
There are actually only a limited number of original roms, because those take a lot of work to make, and there are teams of people maintaining them. These roms usually support most of the popular devices out there, so you aren't really missing anything. You can find a list of those here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_firmwares
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Well the same can be said of all phones, since there's _always_ going to be a better phone coming right around the corner...
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I do agree, but the HTC Inc4 was a special case.
That forum DIED..
even with S-OFF..

Coming from a DNA to the One just because I got the dna to hold me over until I was able to get the One. While not a huge difference, I like the one more.
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I gotta tell you though, I like this hardware. GPS locks almost instanly (S3 was a constant headache, and I had 3 of them) Sound is awesome (I mean, its a phone, but come on!), Heavy metal, attractive. Out of the box the S3 was a slicker UI, but would not stand any physical abuse, and I wear mine on my hip in a Siedio holster. I have this One customized now and it is almost there. Excellent puzzle, keeps me busy.

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Do they always release source eventually? I'm guessing this would lead to development of custom kernels and things of that nature?

I also think xposed framework has eliminated some of the advantages of custom ROMs. Android tweaking and hacking is evolving. SENSE ROM development is growing though, and we have most of the major AOSP ROMs as well.
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fatmando2 said:
Do they always release source eventually?
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Well by distributing the Linux kernel on their phone they are legally compelled by the GPLv2 to make the corresponding source code available. Not even "eventually", but "immediately". Technically however, what the GPL does _not_ dictate is the _venue_ in which they release the source. What that means is that they _aren't_ compelled to put the source code up on the Internet for the public to download. They can choose to just send the source code, by email, cd, or whatever, to those who ask for it, and that would make them in compliance with the GPL. Distributing the source on htcdev.com is just their choice of doing things.
Short answer: yes.
I'm guessing this would lead to development of custom kernels and things of that nature?
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Yes. People have already adapted kernels from other versions of m7 and make them run on the m7vzw. But without HTC's own source as a starting point it's hard to really get a stable kernel.

If you read through the general HTC One development forums it sounds like there are several popular roms waiting on 4.3 to release a VZW version. For instance, ViperOne is for sure coming. Whether they're waiting on 4.3 or not is beyond me, but it is coming.
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I was just wondering that today. But then again i do really enjoy the stock. With root for adblock/teether and no blink feed its almost perfect for me. But, i am keeping my toes crossed anyway!!!
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It is 4.3 that they're waiting for, since all other models have it already. Also, all non-verizon models were 4.1, not 4.2, so we're kind of in Limbo here.

I'm running the Slim ROM for the HTC One, which is superb, and it's 4.3.1.

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I was just wondering that today. But then again i do really enjoy the stock. With root for adblock/teether and no blink feed its almost perfect for me. But, i am keeping my toes crossed anyway!!!
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Something i don't understand is why people don't like BlinkFeed? I find it very useful.
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Development will increase when 4.3 drops and the 4.2 source code. There are private projects going on for sure that are waiting on either 4.3 or source... and also porting attempts...just haven't been made public yet.
Sent from my One.

Just hoping people keep developing, I'll be using it for two more years.

I will say that after a few hours with my new One, huge improvement over the DNA in every way
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Development will increase when 4.3 drops and the 4.2 source code. There are private projects going on for sure that are waiting on either 4.3 or source... and also porting attempts...just haven't been made public yet.
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This thread question has popped up a few times, including by me. We may get a few more roms, but I agree with Andy that this phone is kind of a "dead end"..
I am just really happy Andy is here and making us a nice rom because w/out him, this would be a sad phone for custom roms.

What sort of "development" are you looking for? Maybe I've fallen out of the flash addiction, but I don't see the need for a bajillion and one ROMS to choose from with a tweak here or there. I'm glad that there is consolidation in feature sets that make only a few necessary. That said, it would be nice to have a Franco-Kernel equivalent and an associated app to easily apply Kernel settings.
Also, although this is my first HTC phone, I think Sense is really good and I actually prefer it (minus blinkfeed, admittedly) to stock android. I'm willing to bet there are others out there who feel that way too.

CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, or any other ROMs?

Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.

CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2

BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield

Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML

If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...

MatteXperiaU said:
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.

custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.

Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
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Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.

We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .

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Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!

We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.

Tuanies said:
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...

Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:

Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done

Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.

SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
TheSSJ said:
This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.

I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge

Tuanies said:
This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all

Any Movement or Update on S-OFF to Root Verizon M9?

I am sure it is a hugely difficult task, and maybe with little financial reward as a result of the small amount of people who have Verizon and and M9, but is there any movement or update on this? I remember seeing when I first got it that it would take some time but would eventually happen.

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I am sure it is a hugely difficult task, and maybe with little financial reward as a result of the small amount of people who have Verizon and and M9, but is there any movement or update on this? I remember seeing when I first got it that it would take some time but would eventually happen.
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Still stands the same. You have to have java card\clip to s-off which then will allow root. Currently no software method\sunshine available, but as we all know, that could change tomorrow or never.
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That's what I feared; I thought I remembered the developer of the software roamed these forums, so maybe he would see it and be slightly more motivated

You could always nonchalantly mention him like this @jcase if you wanted to be real sly about it... Lol
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Antny6 said:
You could always nonchalantly mention him like this @jcase if you wanted to be real sly about it... Lol
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I'd either ignore it since its mentioned at least weekly already, or say something along the lines that we dont give ETAs nor comment on unreleased/in R&D projects

jcase said:
I'd either ignore it since its mentioned at least weekly already, or say something along the lines that we dont give ETAs nor comment on unreleased/in R&D projects
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[emoji56] couldn't resist...the rationale listed for the post just made me laugh
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jcase said:
I'd either ignore it since its mentioned at least weekly already, or say something along the lines that we dont give ETAs nor comment on unreleased/in R&D projects
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I hear if you stare into a mirror, and chant @jcase 3 times.... He will pop out of the mirror, and offer you pork bbq

jefe00 said:
I am sure it is a hugely difficult task, and maybe with little financial reward as a result of the small amount of people who have Verizon and and M9, but is there any movement or update on this? I remember seeing when I first got it that it would take some time but would eventually happen.
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Read thru this entire thread...it'll be worth doing:good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-s-off-how-root-s-off-verizon-m9-20-t3123178

jefe00 said:
That's what I feared; I thought I remembered the developer of the software roamed these forums, so maybe he would see it and be slightly more motivated
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You might be better served to just go the route every one else has and ship/drive to a dev with access. I wouldnt hedge my bets on getting software exploit going anytime soon. But my sentiment will ring the same with everyone else.... This phone is infinitely better with root

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That's what I feared; I thought I remembered the developer of the software roamed these forums, so maybe he would see it and be slightly more motivated
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This.
Well worth it. With the incredibly successful sales of the M9 (not), I wouldn't hold my breath for devs to continue to focus on the M9, especially as it becomes the "old" handset when HTC releases its next flagship.

Why my post get deleted? I was offering free s off all htc models all android versions ! What's wrong with that ????
Maybe someone thought o no ... I can't have a alternative s off for free I lose my 25 bucks lol . Why not give the people a option! !!!
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jsaxon2 said:
Still stands the same. You have to have java card\clip to s-off which then will allow root. Currently no software method\sunshine available, but as we all know, that could change tomorrow or never.
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I offer free local s off service that I say AGAIN is free . also doesn't void warranty and I can do all htc models and android version

Neo has consolidated all users doing the same exact service in the Java card/clip thread.
That's why. You are on the thread there now. Perhaps you are in denial that there are many users already doing this and more in that thread? Even boot loader unlocks without warranty voiding?
So yes please...stop duplicating posts everywhere.