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I have just installed Evils Custom Barebone rom v5 on the dev bord for desire, its a rom build that has no sense, just helixlauncher2. Now before i installed this i had the stock rom running and that always kicked my network preference to G and if i set it to HSDPA only, i would get scratchy 3G/H... Since installing the bareback rom, which has no sense running at all, i am on 3g or h constantly, and when i load a web page it always kicks into H.
I must also add that after i rooted i also updated my radio (baseband) to the new one released, the asia update
This could mean that sense applications or sense itself is forcing our phones to 2G networks as preference, I know this idea is out of the box but its looking that way, especially in my case.
JD
JupiterDroid said:
I have just installed Evils Custom Barebone rom v5 on the dev bord for desire, its a rom build that has no sense, just helixlauncher2. Now before i installed this i had the stock rom running and that always kicked my network preference to G and if i set it to HSDPA only, i would get scratchy 3G/H... Since installing the bareback rom, which has no sense running at all, i am on 3g or h constantly, and when i load a web page it always kicks into H.
I must also add that after i rooted i also updated my radio (baseband) to the new one released, the asia update
This could mean that sense applications or sense itself is forcing our phones to 2G networks as preference, I know this idea is out of the box but its looking that way, especially in my case.
JD
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very good news! although it's most likely the radio update that has fixed the problem! (i had the issue with the HD2 and it was discovered that it was not the fault of the Sense services that the connection would drop)
please keep us updated as it can take a while for the connection to drop, it can stay stable for hours and then drop like crazy.
thanks for posting but do keep us updated!
thanks!
Its definatly not the radio update mate as i still had the problem straight after rooting and updating to the new radio..... The problem only was solved when i installed the custom barebone rom, i now have HSDPA on tap, instead of blank spells when i had wcdma only on previous to the custom rom.
I just added that if people want to replicate what i did, then they have the full picture
Plus constant 3 bars of 3g reception
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Its definatly not the radio update mate as i still had the problem straight after rooting and updating to the new radio..... The problem only was solved when i installed the custom barebone rom, i now have HSDPA on tap, instead of blank spells when i had wcdma only on previous to the custom rom.
I just added that if people want to replicate what i did, then they have the full picture
Plus constant 3 bars of 3g reception
JD
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well please do some further testing and report back! download a 50mb file while surfing the net and see if it drops
if it doesn't then there is a fault with Sense which HTC must fix.
ok gonna test now, also just made a phone call which was liquid! pure liquid!! No breaks or anything... I think we may be on to something here guys! something thats pretty big!
This rom is avoid of any sense, sense looking like what is killing our connections;(
JD
Started to download 114mb nvidia graphics driver, whilst on 3 bars it was downloading very fast, then it dropped to two bars, and it hung, after downloading 2mb, then it popped back up to three bars, downloaded another 2mb and then dropped back down again to two bars. When surfing it always stays three bars. It looks like tmobile have put a cap on how much we can download in bursts.
Im still noticing 95 percent surfing on hsdpa improvment.
JD
also i think removing sense and all of its RAM burden helps the phone to make better and faster decision's. This could be whats happening here
Also reporting a better WIFI signal strength, wad usually one bar from my room, now is now a constant 2 bars on signal icon
Stock T-Mobile ROM, never had any issues?
This seems to happen with every new HTC release. Could it just be poor network performance?
Why do I never have issues? Live around Nottingham but work all over the UK, no problems with HSPA.
Ok, i unchecked under location, determine location by wifi towers.... Went to download that 114mb file again,
Worked 100 percent.
downloaded in just under 10 mins no hang))
so its solved!!
JD
hi i got the desire last week, what is this problem
PAULRYAN52 said:
hi i got the desire last week, what is this problem
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Imaginary.
i dont have any problem with h or 3g
firedup said:
Imaginary.
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just look at how many people up and down the country on this board that are having 3g/hsdpa problems..
If you have nothing productive to say then please reframe from commenting on this issue!
PAULRYAN52 said:
i dont have any problem with h or 3g
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Paul some people are having intermittant G/3G/HSDPA
My problem was solved by not having Sense And with the CM Mod being uploaded as we speak i will see if its to draw with that as well.
But im definatly getting faster, always H speeds now, and the only thing i changed was the rom
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Paul some people are having intermittant G/3G/HSDPA
My problem was solved by not having Sense And with the CM Mod being uploaded as we speak i will see if its to draw with that as well.
But im definatly getting faster, always H speeds now, and the only thing i changed was the rom
JD
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i must be lucky i dont seem to have the issue
So if some people have it and others don't how can it be device and not network related?
It's OS and Network related.
There's an open bug on the android development site about it. I don't know all the ins and outs but the OS seems to have some difficulty re-acquiring dropped signals. So if your network has dodgy 3G coverage you're more likely to experience this.
I'm sure it's far more complicated than my explanation though and involves all kinds of fascinating intricacies regarding the type of 3G coverage and automatic switching between the different connections yadda yadda...
Yeah its pretty deep, all i know is it has been fantastic since Sense has been off my phone
JupiterDroid said:
Ok, i unchecked under location, determine location by wifi towers.... Went to download that 114mb file again,
Worked 100 percent.
downloaded in just under 10 mins no hang))
so its solved!!
JD
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Just to clarify here, switching rom and radio on your phone did not solve the issue as there was still a dropout, but what has fixed it is disabling the location, what do you mean location by wifi towers?
i have sense on my evo again because everywhere i went no matter my signal, the bars on cm6 showed 1-2 rarely 3 never 4 and the 3G was painfully slow. ran tests and i got .1 mbps on cm6, flashed sense to see if my phone was the problem and it got 1mbps, ten times faster? can anyone explain the potential problem here? its killing me cuz i love aosp but the 3G is killin me
Always had the same issue here. One of the reasons I stay on a sense based rom.
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i have sense on my evo again because everywhere i went no matter my signal, the bars on cm6 showed 1-2 rarely 3 never 4 and the 3G was painfully slow. ran tests and i got .1 mbps on cm6, flashed sense to see if my phone was the problem and it got 1mbps, ten times faster? can anyone explain the potential problem here? its killing me cuz i love aosp but the 3G is killin me
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And just a suggestion, install a senseless ROM... Built off sense but has sense removed... Will be the closest thing to AOSP but will keep your speeds and 4g working.
The signle meter on CM6 only has 4 bars, the Sense one has like 8. You are getting the same coverage.
Secondly, wrong forum. This is development.
Third. I have slow 3G on CM6 roms too. I have no idea why, and everyone else will tell you it's Sprint. But I can be in the same place, and run speedtests and Sense based ROMs are always faster.
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Yup. Sense will always have better 3G signal. Sometimes when I am on CM the signal even drops down to 1x.
Thats irrelevant .. he also posted the speeds he was getting. OP, I don't know what's wrong; doesn't happen to me. Is it on all aosp roms? Try messing round with the settings
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
oops i thought i posted in q&a, my bad.
and i understand the whole bar ratio but on sense i get like 7 bars out of 8 rather than 1 out of 4. seriously it is almost ALWAYS 1 bar and it drops to 1x a lot! its never faster than about 125kb/s on a speedtest no matter where i am. its almost like theres a governor bogging it down
ALSO: ive flashed gingerbread roms galore, all the same issue.
On a AOSP rom the 4 bars are the 4 low bars outta the 6 in sense, so if u see only two bars then ur short 4 which gives u horrible battery. Also kernels play the biggest role in data if u want to believe it or not...
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oops i thought i posted in q&a, my bad.
and i understand the whole bar ratio but on sense i get like 7 bars out of 8 rather than 1 out of 4. seriously it is almost ALWAYS 1 bar and it drops to 1x a lot! its never faster than about 125kb/s on a speedtest no matter where i am. its almost like theres a governor bogging it down
ALSO: ive flashed gingerbread roms galore, all the same issue.
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I had the same problem until I flashed a Sense rom, re-flashed the newest radio after first boot. Updated the profile then restarted the phone. I then could flash any AOSP rom with no speed problems. But every time i go back to a sense rom I must do that again if I want to go back to AOSP...
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me...
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I had the same problem until I flashed a Sense rom, re-flashed the newest radio after first boot. Updated the profile then restarted the phone. I then could flash any AOSP rom with no speed problems. But every time i go back to a sense rom I must do that again if I want to go back to AOSP...
I don't know if it will work for you, but it did for me...
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thanks. i will try that right now actually.
Home>Menu>Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks
Make sure "Data enabled", "International data roaming", and "National data roaming" are checked, and "System select" is on Automatic.
And before you freak out, all of the EVO plans on Sprint have unlimited roaming.
drmacinyasha said:
Home>Menu>Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks
Make sure "Data enabled", "International data roaming", and "National data roaming" are checked, and "System select" is on Automatic.
And before you freak out, all of the EVO plans on Sprint have unlimited roaming.
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hahahahaaha thanks i already know all that. and yes its all checked.
well it seems that the radio flash and updating the profile worked some magic. speeds are up above 700kbps
EDIT: nope. back to horrible speeds jk
can i get some feedback from more CM users please? this is so confusing
I had the same problem on cm6. Still don't understand why but I'm sticking with a sense rom. I get the best results on myns roms. Fresh was almost just as bad as cm6 as far as speeds go. Kinda weird imo. Maybe someone can explain?
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If I had to guess, its due to the fact most sense based roms have the carrier spyware built in. (ksoftiq I think is the process name)
But, thats just a guess, I'm probably wrong.
I have the same issue with cm6 and the latest gb asop roms. Not with the display of the bars, but on asop roms only at my work I will bounce between 1x and 3g. I will lose data, then go to 1x, then back to 3g constantly. When holding, the signal isnt too bad, but it is almost as if the phone cannot pick between towers or something. I have tried multiple radio/pri combos and such and have no solution. Also tired switching back to sense and updated profile and prl.
Edit: Could it also be location based? This only happens at work in Burbank, CA. Just about everywhere else I am around LA I do not have this problem.
I suffered from this on cm. On gb I get great speeds for a while then it will act crazy and get slow. I reboot and it goes back to being fast again.
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if u ever notice some of those extra processes running in the background of sense like IQRD or IQ agent for example... i believe some of those are qualcomm based programs that help ensure good data transfer speeds. And it's funny that we all hated sense because of those extra background processes that seem to slow the whole system down but some of them are actually helping to keep data speeds up in sense roms. Obviously in AOSP those processes are not present therefore speeds arent always as reliable and may drop in and out. Im just speculating on this and have no concrete proof but i did read up on one of the processes and it points to qualcomm's cdma based technology development so im assuming there is a correlation.
Has anyone noticed this?
Everyone keeps on going on about how great CM7 is, etc.
Its great....BUT ive found that HSDPA is very slow and sometimes very unresponsive.
This is the case on Oxygen, CM7, Redux
Tried every radio and get download speeds of about 0.06 Mbps. (5-7Mbps on WiFi)
So I decided to flash stock rooted ROM (Froyo), and got speeds of 1.5Mbps (9-10Mbps on WiFi) and all is running smoothly...BUT battery life is terrible.
Can anyone confirm this or have any suggestions, I would really like to be back on gingerbread ROM as i find sense too bloated and power hungry.
Edit: I also tried to flash gingerbread roms again, and still same problems exist. once i switched back to stock ROM, I get consistently high speeds.
No problem here, Orange UK. It could be a problem with your carrier maybe and an inconsistency with custom roms. You're forgetting that tests on networks are with the official software so a change in software could do this. Flash a custom rom and ring your carrier. They can do diagnostic tests to confirm it. If they say to send it in, come up with a reason not to.
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Mine is a little bit different. I think it is better with ginverbread roms (ginger villain 2.0)
Test Date: Apr 22, 2011 7:26:15 am
Connection Type: Hsdpa
Server: Bucharest
Download: 2.57 Mbps
Upload: 1.27 Mbps
Ping: 90 ms
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I've been on this forum for a while, and I've used a majority of the ROM's available (although I get the feeling I've only scratched the surface).
However, although good, I have always experienced problems.
For it while it was the camera. Recording video (in 720p, which I do alot of) would stutter. It would run for a few seconds and then freeze for a second, and then carry on. This was present in LeeDroid for a while, a ROM I liked very much.
The other thing is USB Tethering. It will always work but if I was in Disk Drive, I would have to disconnect the USB cable and reconnect it to get USB Tethering, I couldn't just click from one to the other. Again this was only present in LeeDroid, CoreDroid works fine, MIUI (once they fixed the USB Tethering issue) worked fine and Revolution worked fine im pretty sure RCMixKingdom worked fine.
USB Tethering is so important to me, because it is how I get my internet. I have an unlimited plan with my network, which means I can just use my phone, I get speeds of up to 1.1MBPS, so its awesome for me, and saves having a separate bill.
Ultimately, I just want a ROM to work. The reason I rooted unlocked my phone in the first place, was because of a bug HTC left in the phone, which was, when I was using USB Tethering, after about 10 minutes, mobile internet would disconnect. I had keep the screen awake when I had USB plugged in, to stop it disconnecting. Its a known bug, apparently, although since using custom ROM's, I have no idea if HTC have fixed the issue.
Ideally I just want a decent ROM where everything works, silly things like the weather don't FC. And I wouldn't mind a decent Sense 3.0 interface. Regardless of what HTC has said, it does work perfectly on single core hardware.
So ... recommend one to me please
For a 2.1 Rom: Go for LeeDroid latest or ARHD latest both are very good.
For a 3.0 rom: Go for Virtuous Unity 1.31.0 (I am using it with LeeDroid Kernel because it is the best imho)
For an ASOP, I cannot really recommend... Never gone away from Sense.
naailalzuhir said:
For an ASOP, I cannot really recommend... Never gone away from Sense.
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Cyanogenmod is the obvious choice for an AOSP ROM.
RCMix is another Sense 3.0 option.
We are certainly spoilt for choice.
There are lots of great roms
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I've been trying a few ROM's like you do and now i got CoreDroid V7.1 for daily use.I definetly recommend it
Hi,
Can't say i stayed on stock to long to test but after 3 roms (Beatmod, ViperOne M8 port, S.ROM) The 5Ghz wifi is erratic at best. It dropps the connection or takes ages to resolve almost like a DNS issue. Been using Mini v1.01 Elemental X port and some other kernel (basked into the rom)at stock speeds and no undervolting on these roms.
No fancy settings. S.ROM is best but still losses connection at times? Is this a known issue?
I've tested with 4 other devices (tablet laptop 2 phones) and they have been fine.
frodiggs said:
Hi,
Can't say i stayed on stock to long to test but after 3 roms (Beatmod, ViperOne M8 port, S.ROM) The 5Ghz wifi is erratic at best. It dropps the connection or takes ages to resolve almost like a DNS issue. Been using Mini v1.01 Elemental X port and some other kernel (basked into the rom)at stock speeds and no undervolting on these roms.
No fancy settings. S.ROM is best but still losses connection at times? Is this a known issue?
I've tested with 4 other devices (tablet laptop 2 phones) and they have been fine.
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Ditto, same problem here... Lollipop ROMs seem to work fine but any Marshmallow fails in the same exact manner as you're seeing. Wifi icon goes white then disappears then comes back as dark, then lights up for a few seconds and disappears again. ONLY on the 5g wireless not on 2.4g
Here's one ROM that does work and while the titles say Marshmallow ROM, the help screens say android version is 5.0.2 and HTC Sense is 6.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-eye/development/roms-official-marshmallow-desire-eye-t3334742
I will keep checking other ROMs but this is an annoying problem and this is for now the only post about this problem. Please post here if a solution is found.
Thanks!