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A little ICS flashing help

A bit confused...
I'm on CM9 alpha 1 and want to get to alpha 2
The CM9 install page says to just use CWM5 to flash the ROM and I dont have to wipe anything...
But I see several things that seem to say flashing ICS stuff through CWM can brick the phone...
Some clarification please?

number 1 do not use rom manager!
number 2 it safe to flash using clockwork mod, upgrading ics roms. but to go back to gingerbread you need to use Odin.
at least that's what I understand. if I'm wrong someone please correct me
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davidstjohn1 said:
number 1 do not use rom manager!
number 2 it safe to flash using clockwork mod, upgrading ics roms. but to go back to gingerbread you need to use Odin.
at least that's what I understand. if I'm wrong someone please correct me
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Ok, that's sort of what I was thinking but I think I'll wait for at least another person to confirm... since you didn't sound real sure of it.. but thanks for the input

im on calks rom and to upgrade from 1.3 to 1.4 i only deleted the cache and dalkiv (sp?) cache and installed the rom and worked great.

blakjak220 said:
Ok, that's sort of what I was thinking but I think I'll wait for at least another person to confirm... since you didn't sound real sure of it.. but thanks for the input
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It's not safe to do any thing with a ics kernel .even wiping data cache etc can brick a phone ..... Always use A GB kernel to flash anything until we get source and they can fix it.... U can use mobile Odin to flash the el26 cwm kernel and then flash the rom without wiping data .... Make sure to flash rom twice and then flash gapps and you are good ....
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omargs7 said:
im on calks rom and to upgrade from 1.3 to 1.4 i only deleted the cache and dalkiv (sp?) cache and installed the rom and worked great.
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AOSP roms are quite a bit different then TW roms . Also I don't recommend wiping on ICS unless you like shiny bricks

xST4T1K said:
AOSP roms are quite a bit different then TW roms . Also I don't recommend wiping on ICS unless you like shiny bricks
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Are you saying dont wipe anything while you have an ICS ROM installed... or just don't try to wipe when you have the ICS recovery installed?.. Like if I have an ICS ROM installed and flash back to an EL29 kernel, I can wipe then right?

blakjak220 said:
Are you saying dont wipe anything while you have an ICS ROM installed... or just don't try to wipe when you have the ICS recovery installed?.. Like if I have an ICS ROM installed and flash back to an EL29 kernel, I can wipe then right?
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yes in theory with a gb based kernel you should be able to wipe but I personally recommend odin'ing a full gb from and kernel then using recovery. I also recommend using calk's wipe zips because they seem to be much safer than CWM wiping directly.
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[Q] ICS ACS Recovery

If I'm on an ICS ROM and back up on the new ACS recovery do I no longer have to go back to EL26 to flash a new ICS ROM?
What has and has not worked for people using the new ACS Recovery?

RaydenEris said:
If I'm on an ICS ROM and back up on the new ACS recovery do I no longer have to go back to EL26 to flash a new ICS ROM?
What has and has not worked for people using the new ACS Recovery?
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I think it's pretty safe, if you are upgrading your current rom or moving from one ICS TW-based rom to another. Ex: going from Calkulin FE22 to agat63 tFE22, probably should flash Calkulin's Format-all script, but flashing the rom should be fine. I would follow instructions in OP and not use it with AOSP/AOKP roms.

RaydenEris said:
If I'm on an ICS ROM and back up on the new ACS recovery do I no longer have to go back to EL26 to flash a new ICS ROM?
What has and has not worked for people using the new ACS Recovery?
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I personally have not dared to try backup or restore yet, but I have flashed quite a few tweaks and even 1 that wiped the cache... no brick so far.
I would stay away from factory reset wipe data/cache until it is confirmed fixed.
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If you're going to flash a aosp rom I would definitely use el26 first just to be safe.

El26 all the way. Don't risk bricking your phone to save a minute doing it the guaranteed safe way.
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Going from Blazer ICS Rom to AOKP ICS Rom

I have my rooted E4GT and the Blazer ICS Rom is installed on it at the moment. I kinda want to try and switch to AOKP's latest build and try it out, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that since they clearly stated not to flash from ICS to ICS.
Could anyone point me in the right direction as to what I should do in order to make the switch to AOKP?
Links to both ROM's respective threads:
AOKP Build 40
Phantom's Blazer Rom
Thanks for your time.

You can just Odin the el26 cwm (sorry don't have the link to it on my phone) and flash AOKP from there.
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This is my method, it is 99.9% safe. You can also re-use it to go from other ROMs to any other ics ROM.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the AOKP files, do a data wipe, and flash.

Thank you both for the replies
Would I be able to use calkulins format all to do the wipes? Or does that only work for certain ROMS? It seemed pretty fool proof when I used it, so I was wondering if I could just use that again and it would work just the same? I don't want to forget something and brick my phone as a result
And I'll look into titanium backup, thanks for the suggestion.
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organizedConfoosion said:
Thank you both for the replies
Would I be able to use calkulins format all to do the wipes? Or does that only work for certain ROMS? It seemed pretty fool proof when I used it, so I was wondering if I could just use that again and it would work just the same? I don't want to forget something and brick my phone as a result
And I'll look into titanium backup, thanks for the suggestion.
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For ICS ROMs, I recommend to not use it, just do 1 system data wipe and you'll be fine.

F3L1XZS said:
For ICS ROMs, I recommend to not use it, just do 1 system data wipe and you'll be fine.
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Alright, but all I should need to do is install the EL26 + CWM and I can flash AOKP? I don't need to go back to a stock gingerbread ROM or anything, or will the OC EL26 CWM do that for me?
And you said you don't recommend calkulin's format all for ICS roms, but that's what I was told to use for the Phantom Blazer ICS rom when I was flashing it?
Also, one more question; what is "flash count" and is it a bad thing? I'll do some googling on it myself, but I'd like to hear your explanation because I don't always understand people's ways of describing things and usually take weird explanations to understand so yours would still be much appreciated just in case, thanks. ^_^

organizedConfoosion said:
Alright, but all I should need to do is install the EL26 + CWM and I can flash AOKP? I don't need to go back to a stock gingerbread ROM or anything?
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You just need to be on a safe recovery.... if you wipe data in an unconfirmed recovery you can cause a brick. Either use the el26 that all use or the el29-reboot kernel. Both will work no matter what you install regardless of you install (granted you flash a working rom). I prefer the el29 because you install via mobile Odin and it boots straight to safe CWM recovery.
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dante32278 said:
You just need to be on a safe recovery.... if you wipe data in an unconfirmed recovery you can cause a brick. Either use the el26 that all use or the el29-reboot kernel. Both will work no matter what you install regardless of you install (granted you flash a working rom). I prefer the el29 because you install via mobile Odin and it boots straight to safe CWM recovery.
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Hmm, alright, sounds good.
Also, which data's do I need to wipe? Dalvik cache and there's one other I believe?

flashing problems

ok I've rooted and installed clockwork recovery as per the instructions in the how to. Still each time I go to flash a rom I get nothing but the galaxy sII logo and it hangs there indefinitely. Did I miss a step in these instructions ? I'm on EL29 baseband if that helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pWjmKCsoc
those are the instructions I used. and I don't think I've missed a step. I've reverted back to stock and re rooted my phone and installed clockwork. How do I get roms to actually flash?

Depends, what are you trying to flash?
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I see the link in your video is just for rooting, but you can get into CWM? did you try the auto root EL29+CWM? Also, if you are following to Devs instructions on how to flash the ROM you should be good to go. have you tried wiping everything first or just installing it over the previous ROM? i suggest downloading Calkulin's Format All zip. flash it before you flash a ROM.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527041 its at the bottom of the 1st post.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
is this what you used for CWM?

yeah those are the things I used actually to get clockwork. It'll let me use clockwork, wipe everything install whatever but when I go to reboot to start it up it hangs at the galaxy s2 screen. I let it go for 2 hours last night. Any rom honestly would be fine at this point. I'm pretty familure with twrp,cwm,and 4ext from the evo 3d but nothing works with this phone.

Would the steps for flashing a rom say blazer for example be
Wipe data, dalvik, and chache.
flash zip from sd reboot? like normal or am I missing a step with another kernel or something?

it would be the same. but I use the Calkulin's Format All zip to do it for me. I know you do get a longer boot then normal because its building delvik cache but not two hours. have you tried downloading the ROM to your computer and then transfering it over to your phone? I had an issue a few days ago because of a bad download(good thing I had my nandriod). What CWM do you have? 5.0.2.7?

yeah thats the only way I do it actually. D/l from the laptop and copy it to sd. then use calkulins to wipe everything and it still just sits.

I just googled "flash ROM boot loop" it came up with something. What is your default launcher? Some people have had problems if they use for say go launcher or another launcher and not have one set as default. On calkulins ROM.
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I am still on the stock rom. only thing I can do is root it with odin and and add clockwork mod with e4gtauto prog. I still have no idea whats going on.

So your on stock TW launcher?
Try flashing a different kernel. Like rogue, that is another recovery based off of CWM. That's what I use, well I use both and haven't had a problem. Another thing is get an MD5 checksum program for your laptop and check the file sum for integrity. Sorry it took me awhile to respond, finally have a day off.
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I actually tried flashing one wth mobile odin that I found on the cyanogenmod page. It booted to the android text logo and that was it. so thats a step in the right direction. Should I just flash it through clockwork after I flash the rom like normal?

That's your problem. If your flashing a GB ROM you need a GB kernel. If your flashing an ICS ROM you need preferably EL26 kernel then use CWM to flash the ROM and kernel. flash the rogue kernel in the kernel repository then try flashing a GB ROM. After that then you should be good to go.
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I appreciate the help so much dude. so When I get home I should flash the kernel through odin then boot into recovery n flash the rom n I should be good? or do I just boot into recovery n flash the rom then the kernel? sorry about so many q's.

No problem. That's what the forum is for. let me know how it works out for ya.
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And yes flash it through Odin and boot into recovery and flash your ROM. you can also flash the ROM in CWM and then flash the kernel right after you flash the ROM. It seems to be easier in CWM then Odin.
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I must be an idiot or my phone doesn't wanna do it. Tried flashing the kernel and aokp a few times now and got nothing. I must be using the wrong stuff for the Job.

Get yourself back to stock with cwm. Pick a ROM and follow the directions in the op for that specific ROM. If anything seems unclear watch one of qbking77's videos on how to install that ROM. Qb has NEVER steered me wrong.
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Ravaged Pheonix said:
Get yourself back to stock with cwm. Pick a ROM and follow the directions in the op for that specific ROM. If anything seems unclear watch one of qbking77's videos on how to install that ROM. Qb has NEVER steered me wrong.
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That's what I've been telling him. Do you have anything else that maybe I'm forgetting? Maybe EL26 direct boot?
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thats kinda what I've been doing. I got cyanogen to boot with the rogue et recovery fb27 and cm9 but market won't actually work. so I went back to stock. I actually used qbking's videos to start with and followed them and it still just hangs. This is the process I'm using.
flash kernel/recovery through odin.
calkulins wipe all
flash rom
flash gapps if needed for said rom
reboot.
I've also tried without the 1st step.
I've tried flashing the el26 kernel that everyone seems to say is safe through odin and that boots me into the recovery and I try to wipe then flash and it still does nothing. am I just flashing the wrong intitial kernel to begin with? I can't figure out why Im having this problem now since I've had multiple rooted phones in the past with no issues.

But now I'm back on stock gingerbread again completely just rooted and then the did the e4gtauto to get a recovery.

new e4gt owner with questions about roms

i just picked up an e4gt today, i had one back in december that i rooted then sold. so im back and now there's a ton of stuff out there for this phone.
i just came over from the evo design where there is pretty much nothing happening, and before that i had an evo shift. i had cm7 installed on that and loved it.
so what rom do you guys suggest i use? i see there is cm9 available in alpha form, which has me very tempted.
im looking for a stable rom with no bloatware. and id love some advice.

BiffTirkle said:
i just picked up an e4gt today, i had one back in december that i rooted then sold. so im back and now there's a ton of stuff out there for this phone.
i just came over from the evo design where there is pretty much nothing happening, and before that i had an evo shift. i had cm7 installed on that and loved it.
so what rom do you guys suggest i use? i see there is cm9 available in alpha form, which has me very tempted.
im looking for a stable rom with no bloatware. and id love some advice.
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Go with cm9 that darchstar has posted. It works great and I use it as my daily. After you do the base install I recommend nightly 7/24 and using the chris41g kernel b3 version with it. Great battery life and full functionality.
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Does cm9 wipe out cwm?
I'm paranoid to do anything without an option for recovery.
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Here is your safest bet (as in super safe):
1. Download the el26 safe cwm kernel from the kernel repository in the sticky for this phone
2. Download cm9 6 and gapps
3. Follow cm9 6 download instructions
4. Let it boot
5. Use mobile Odin if you have it (highly recommend as it makes flashing so easy) and flash the el26 kernel that you downloaded in the kernel section from external sd...always check md5 sum first!
6. Once u see the blue light on ur phone in the LED, hold power+volume up to boot into recovery, once the sgs2 logo shows you can lay off the buttons
7. If you didn't do it in time or held too long, just pull the battery and go to recovery via power+volume up
8. You should be in cwm, flash the nightly of cm9, clear dalvik and cache, then flash the chris 41g b3 kernel and reboot
9. Enjoy
10. From this point forward you have a bomb rom and working recovery that will allow backup/nand/flashing safely.
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Look into Blu Kuban(team venum). No bloat, excellent help from dev. Plenty of options/mods/hacks/updates/themed apps/speed/great battery.

Ditto on Alex. Excellent support... Great battery life. It's themed so you should look at the screenshots and the video on the dev site.
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ok, i think im going to try the cm9 route, but i cannot find the correct kernel, or im doing something wrong. i got odin for android, and downloaded a couple of kernels i thought were the right ones and they didnt show up when i tried to select them with odin.

BiffTirkle said:
ok, i think im going to try the cm9 route, but i cannot find the correct kernel, or im doing something wrong. i got odin for android, and downloaded a couple of kernels i thought were the right ones and they didnt show up when i tried to select them with odin.
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Here is the link for el26, first download.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26295021
The chris41g kernel has its own thread in development, grab the zip format of the cwm b3 version.
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im not finding a b3 version. but i did download the first kernel from chris41g
StockCWM-EL26.zip
i hope thats correct. im going to do a nandroid backup and give it a shot later today. thanks for the help and advice!
its been several months since ive been flashing roms, and i find that it takes me a few days to get back in the swing of things before im flashing again.

The b3 kernel is at chris's goo which is linked to in this xda thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28981308
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So I need to flash el26 kernel first, then I flash 41g-CWM-RC1-b3-0723.zip. then I can flash cm9 and gapps from recovery?
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BiffTirkle said:
So I need to flash el26 kernel first, then I flash 41g-CWM-RC1-b3-0723.zip. then I can flash cm9 and gapps from recovery?
El26, boot to recovery, install cm9 per their install guide...after successful install, flash el26 again, wipe cache/dalvik, and install the chris41g kernel from there.
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ok, so i got cm9 on the phone. very excited, except for the launcher wont allow me to add widgets. wierd, same thing with my touchpad.
anyway i tried to flash el26 and it stalled at the splash screen, so i opened up recovery and wiped cache and dalvik, then installed the chris41g kernel. and no dice. aaaanyway. whats the benefit to the other kernels versus what i get with cm9? and is there a solution to my problem?

I read 4g is unreliable on Chris' new kernels
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BiffTirkle said:
ok, so i got cm9 on the phone. very excited, except for the launcher wont allow me to add widgets. wierd, same thing with my touchpad.
anyway i tried to flash el26 and it stalled at the boot screen, so i opened up recovery and wiped cache and dalvik, then installed the chris41g kernel. and no dice. aaaanyway. whats the benefit to the other kernels versus what i get with cm9? and is there a solution to my problem?
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I get that problem whatever I wipe the dalvik cache
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well, im not sure what to do now. i love cyanogenmod, and id put up with a few hiccups if i could. but it looks like i wont be able to use this as a daily rom. very disappointing...
so, i might try the blu kuban rom.
at this point i want a debloated stable rom. im back to a rooted stock rom with el29.
i just dont want to brick my phone, i have insurance and can take it in to swap it out. its just a waste of time if i can avoid it.
any other suggestions?

BiffTirkle said:
well, im not sure what to do now. i love cyanogenmod, and id put up with a few hiccups if i could. but it looks like i wont be able to use this as a daily rom. very disappointing...
so, i might try the blu kuban rom.
at this point i want a debloated stable rom. im back to a rooted stock rom with el29.
i just dont want to brick my phone, i have insurance and can take it in to swap it out. its just a waste of time if i can avoid it.
any other suggestions?
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Start with thread #1 on the attached link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625535
To Install
Boot to recovery
Make an NAND Backup
Wipe the phone (with the Format All X2 script)
Flash Part 1
Boot the phone
Go to the updater (Under put things back to stock) and install Part 2 (Two part install is to finish theming Talk)
Reboot and Enjoy
When I did this I went to CWM to flash this through odin. Rom works very smooth. There is a ton of information in the thread but that should get you started.