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Just before christmas i won a kindle fire in work in a raffle and give it to the wife to use but for about 2 weeks it hasnt move off the shelf and i was about to sell it until a mate told me to root it.
I have no experience at all in this and have always used apple and never done anything with my iphone either.
I have been reading through this forum for about a week and am totally lost in knowing where to start or even if the kindle is safe to root as i dont know if it is a 1 or a 2.
When i set it all up for her i left everything as standard to keep it simple for her to use and the software has updated automaticly and is now running 10.2.6 but i dont know what it started on.
Any help would be appriciated or if its a lost cause it will be on ebay next weekend.
Thanks.
That's a 2nd gen Kindle
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Go to the second gen forum. They can help you more
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Much searching has left me half confused and half hopeful for something I may have missed. I don't think its immediately obvious, so please, if for the sake of making google answer people more effectively, I want to get a straight answer on this.
I have a dark KFHD 8.9 - I tried running BreakDroid on it after it had been rooted and loaded with various google apps ( that probably doesn't matter, but its here for the sake of completeness ).
My computer sees nothing now, and attempts to fastboot at the kindle result in an endless waiting for device messages.
The Question:
Assuming my KFHD 8.9 is so badly bricked that fastboot will not work - is there any other known method to get it back to working?
I am willing to take it apart, solder things to it, surrond it with pentagrams of chicken blood, etc... but I need to know if I am just wasting my time with a paperweight.
Thanks
Assuming the device doesn't show any outward signs of life (no display, etc), there isn't anything that can be done at the moment.
Contact Amazon and say it is dead and not responding!
Contact Amazon and say it is dead and not responding! They should be able to help you.
souplogic said:
Much searching has left me half confused and half hopeful for something I may have missed. I don't think its immediately obvious, so please, if for the sake of making google answer people more effectively, I want to get a straight answer on this.
I have a dark KFHD 8.9 - I tried running BreakDroid on it after it had been rooted and loaded with various google apps ( that probably doesn't matter, but its here for the sake of completeness ).
My computer sees nothing now, and attempts to fastboot at the kindle result in an endless waiting for device messages.
The Question:
Assuming my KFHD 8.9 is so badly bricked that fastboot will not work - is there any other known method to get it back to working?
I am willing to take it apart, solder things to it, surrond it with pentagrams of chicken blood, etc... but I need to know if I am just wasting my time with a paperweight.
Thanks
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amit.talukdar said:
Contact Amazon and say it is dead and not responding! They should be able to help you.
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I am thinking about doing this, but I am not good about leaving the fact that I have rooted, flashed, and actually completely disassembled this device. Might have my wife call, and tell them all she "knows", just saying her husband is an idiot, which in this case is true.
souplogic said:
I am thinking about doing this, but I am not good about leaving the fact that I have rooted, flashed, and actually completely disassembled this device. Might have my wife call, and tell them all she "knows", just saying her husband is an idiot, which in this case is true.
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Souplogic - I bricked my 8.9 by installing the wrong bootloader. I tried to fix it - took it apart, built a 'factory cable', and sent it to an expert. Bottom line was that the device was bricked, Amazon replaced it no questions asked, and it appears that the returned device went directly to a contractor that processes/refurbs them.
We're a five Kindle family - Amazon has replaced early devices (gen 1 Fires) due to USB port problems, and my HD 8.9. Sorry to hear that you 'get' to have 'this much fun' with your Kindle - but if you choose to send it back to Amazon they'll take care of you.
After trying to root, my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 shows up as "OMAP4470 USB Device on Windows. Screen is black. May have damaged bootloader. Think I may have used a file intended for an older version Kindle. Can't get fastboot. Factory cable does not work with this device.
The device ID shows up as:
USB\VID_0451&PID_D012&REV_0000
USB\VID_0451&PID_D012
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OMAP4470 is the TI processor used in this device. Anyboody care to comment/help?
At least say someting if you know anything
AlSat said:
After trying to root, my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 shows up as "OMAP4470 USB Device on Windows. Screen is black. May have damaged bootloader. Think I may have used a file intended for an older version Kindle. Can't get fastboot. Factory cable does not work with this device.
The device ID shows up as:
USB\VID_0451&PID_D012&REV_0000
USB\VID_0451&PID_D012
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OMAP4470 is the TI processor used in this device. Anyboody care to comment/help?
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At least say someting if you know anything
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I'm far from an expert, but I don't think there's much you can do. No one has the drivers for that omap device. See if you can send it back to amazon. I dont think they can verify for sure that you voided your warranty.
BTW, there's a chance I'm totally wrong.
Thanks for replying
mathman114 said:
I'm far from an expert, but I don't think there's much you can do. No one has the drivers for that omap device. See if you can send it back to amazon. I dont think they can verify for sure that you voided your warranty.
BTW, there's a chance I'm totally wrong.
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Thanks for at least replying. I figured that might be the case. Thans.
Did amazon replace it for you ? Im in the same boat >.>
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Did amazon replace it for you ? Im in the same boat >.>
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I had a brick as well and they told me they would replace it. I don't think it's the right thing to do, however, so I didn't accept.
Same here. Not fair to ask Amazon to replace it. I think I may have found something to try using linux/usb. I will post results after I try it.
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Hi!
Did someone find a solution, i'm in the same case here.
Black screen after rooting, when i plug the kindle fire to the computer, i hear usb connection sound, usb deconnection sound etc etc...
I don't know what to do
Thank you
Open the device manager before you plug the kindle in, if you see a jem, otter, or Tate device that appears for an instant, you are in luck, if it says omap440, you either need to send it in to amazon or if they won't accept, you can send it to @kurohyou and see if he can fix it. Before you think its hard-bricked there are other ways to know for sure if it is one so don't freak out if u can't see any device in the device manager when it connects and disconnects.
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Yea. it says OMAP...
stunts513 said:
Open the device manager before you plug the kindle in, if you see a jem, otter, or Tate device that appears for an instant, you are in luck, if it says omap440, you either need to send it in to amazon or if they won't accept, you can send it to @kurohyou and see if he can fix it. Before you think its hard-bricked there are other ways to know for sure if it is one so don't freak out if u can't see any device in the device manager when it connects and disconnects.
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Thanks for the reply. I understand omap is the processor amazon uses, so there's that. Can't send to Amazon. No funds to pay for repair. I found something here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038 that I think I might try. What do you think?
That doesn't work on the second gen devices, it requires a signed version of the xloader that only amazon has, the kf1 didn't require signatures, so it worked on them but not the second gen devices. If u want to have any shot at fixing it since you said amazon won't accept it back, I would recommend sending it to kurohyou, he has a hard brick fix method in the works for kf2's, that should also work on the kfhd's, but the layout is different and he has no kfhd's to work with. He has gotten his own kindle back to a soft brick state by flashing the boot loader from links while directly hooked up to his emmc. Anyways he is your best shot if it shows up as a omap440 device and won't even boot with the kindle logo at all.
Here's a link to his thread if you are interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391047
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stunts513 said:
Open the device manager before you plug the kindle in, if you see a jem, otter, or Tate device that appears for an instant, you are in luck, if it says omap440, you either need to send it in to amazon or if they won't accept, you can send it to @kurohyou and see if he can fix it. Before you think its hard-bricked there are other ways to know for sure if it is one so don't freak out if u can't see any device in the device manager when it connects and disconnects.
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Hi, thanks for reply.
When i connect the kindle, omap4470 appears for an instant in the device manager...
What can happen if i contact Amazon and only tell them the kindle crashed using it?
Or is there a thing i can do on my own?
I don't know if its better to lie or not when dealing with them but if it was supposed to be under warranty still and they haven't previously replaced it, they are sometimes lenient and will send u a replacement. If they won't then kurohyou is your best bet.
Just curious did you attempt to root it or something using kindle fire utility? I don't remember the rooting process on kf1's offhand because I haven't had to reroot my moms in forever, but I remember kfu being involved. Kindle fire utility would brick the device, just trying to figure out from curiosity how you bricked it.
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stunts513 said:
I don't know if its better to lie or not when dealing with them but if it was supposed to be under warranty still and they haven't previously replaced it, they are sometimes lenient and will send u a replacement. If they won't then kurohyou is your best bet.
Just curious did you attempt to root it or something using kindle fire utility? I don't remember the rooting process on kf1's offhand because I haven't had to reroot my moms in forever, but I remember kfu being involved. Kindle fire utility would brick the device, just trying to figure out from curiosity how you bricked it.
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Hi
I was under TWRP when i bricked the tab.
Unofficial CyanogenMod 10.2 was getting slowing down and i decide to erase the tab and reinstall it.
I still don't know why i've been to the root menu of TWRP, but sure i should'nt have been there... black screen!!
Bye
jeromebzh said:
Hi
I was under TWRP when i bricked the tab.
Unofficial CyanogenMod 10.2 was getting slowing down and i decide to erase the tab and reinstall it.
I still don't know why i've been to the root menu of TWRP, but sure i should'nt have been there... black screen!!
Bye
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Yes, I did attempt to root it using kindle fire utility.Tried a few other things, too. Don't remember them all. I understand that the bootloader is locked on this device, and I needed to use a specific method. Don't recall what that is. Do you know exactly what needed to be done?
You could have either used binaries root method or kindle fire first aid's root option. Kffa is in the general section, and I don't remember offhand where binaries root is, I think its in one of the FAQ stickies in one of the forums around here.
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So just to confirm, if I'm plugging in my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and my computer is asking for OMAP4470 drivers, there's pretty much no hope for it, ie, it's hard bricked forever. Sad face.
scamyu said:
So just to confirm, if I'm plugging in my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and my computer is asking for OMAP4470 drivers, there's pretty much no hope for it, ie, it's hard bricked forever. Sad face.
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Yes, that would be a definite hard brick. This may be fixable in the future but not at the moment, sorry.
I would be interested in bricked HD 8.9" with OMAP4470.
If any one is willing to sell it for a reasonable price and if possible is from UK let me know.
i think amazon RD guys or TI know how to fix it.
maybe by some driver or CMD words....
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rmamba said:
I would be interested in bricked HD 8.9" with OMAP4470.
If any one is willing to sell it for a reasonable price and if possible is from UK let me know.
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i think amazon RD guys or TI know how to fix it.
maybe by some driver or CMD words....
I have a Kindle Fire here that is bricked (loads/reloads "kindlefire" logo over and over and goes no further). I purchased a factory cable so that I can flash it back to it's original software. However, since this device is bricked and was given to me, I have no idea if this a 1st or 2nd generation device. Is there some way to tell the difference between the two while it is bricked so that I know what to flash it with? I've looked everywhere and can find only ways to tell the difference if the device is running properly. Thanks so much!
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elleefix said:
I have a Kindle Fire here that is bricked (loads/reloads "kindlefire" logo over and over and goes no further). I purchased a factory cable so that I can flash it back to it's original software. However, since this device is bricked and was given to me, I have no idea if this a 1st or 2nd generation device. Is there some way to tell the difference between the two while it is bricked so that I know what to flash it with? I've looked everywhere and can find only ways to tell the difference if the device is running properly. Thanks so much!
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I would try the kindle fire unbrick utility for the first gen to see if that works if it does not it will not harm your device or try the kindle fire utility v0.9.9 to see if it detects the kindle fire being plugged in try the unbrick utility see if that works under kindle fire android development on the xda forums
NO NO NO! DO NOT USE THE KINDLE FIRE UTILITY!
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Thank you for your input but...
before I start doing something that might permanently brick the device, what about something more simple like opening up the back? Does anyone know if there are obvious differences between 1st and 2nd gen? I've tried googling this and can never find an answer that doesn't involved running the device in some way, very frustrating.
I've tried researching this myself by simply watching YouTube videos and trying my best to make note of anything. The only thing I've found that I suspect might be different (but I'm still not sure) is the color of the battery connector on the mobo. White for 1st gen, black for 2nd gen. Can anyone confirm this and/or does anyone know of another obvious difference?
Thanks so much!
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Update:
I believe I've answered my own question. After initially posting this, it occurred to me to simply look up replacement parts for 1st and 2nd gen and look for differences. I am correct about the color difference of the battery connector on the mobo, in addition, the 1st gen models also have a small white flex cable connector that is directly to the right of the battery cable connector (if you're viewing the device with the mobo at the top). This flex cable connector is completely absent on the 2nd gen models.
Posting this just to let everyone know I've solved the problem and also so that anyone else searching for a solution to this problem can have a definite answer.
Thanks again for the help! It's much appreciated!
If you want to be sure then put it into fastboot and run "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product" and if it returns kindle its a first gen, if it reports Tate, otter2, or jem then its a 2nd gen device.
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Hey guys, I need to know where I can get a working fastboot cable for the Kindle Fire HDX 3rd gen 7" (THOR). On amazon I don't know which one to buy. Can someone send me a link to a cheap one I can buy?
MinerBoy004 said:
Hey guys, I need to know where I can get a working fastboot cable for the Kindle Fire HDX 3rd gen 7" (THOR). On amazon I don't know which one to buy. Can someone send me a link to a cheap one I can buy?
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I don't think a fastboot cable by itself (or at all) is going to help. You will need to read up on recovering a bricked HDX. A Google search turned up several extensive threads. Skimming quickly I wasn't able to determine if a satisfactory resolution was obtained. Anyhow - I can't answer your specific question as the two cables on Amazon both state they do not work with newer generation Kindles including HDX (even though at least one title suggests it does...deceptive).
Davey126 said:
I don't think a fastboot cable by itself (or at all) is going to help. You will need to read up on recovering a bricked HDX. A Google search turned up several extensive threads. Skimming quickly I wasn't able to determine if a satisfactory resolution was obtained. Anyhow - I can't answer your specific question as the two cables on Amazon both state they do not work with newer generation Kindles including HDX (even though at least one title suggests it does...deceptive).
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I did, I need a fastboot cable to restore my stock rom because I deleted my stock rom. So can someone please help me? I'm starting to get pissed of because people keep saying the same thing...
MinerBoy004 said:
So can someone please help me? I'm starting to get pissed of because people keep saying the same thing...
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I think the consensus is you are hosed or haven't provided enough information for anyone to help. A HDX isn't like most Android devices; hard to unbrick using conventional methods. I understand your frustration but everyone here is just like you. No one gets paid to answer your questions.
My humble suggestion is you contact Amazon to seek a replacement. Tell them it stopped working. While most companies would have you pound sand Amazon is exceptionally customer focused and will often replace a device even if it is out of warranty.
Beyond that, if anyone else wants to jump have at it.
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I did, I need a fastboot cable to restore my stock rom because I deleted my stock rom. So can someone please help me? I'm starting to get pissed of because people keep saying the same thing...
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In case you dont get it, your only valid option for now is ask to Amazon for replacement as Davey126 suggested:
1. On FW x.3.2.8 you cant unlock bootloader
2. On locked HW fastboot mode is severely crippled = unusable for anything regarding system recovery
3. Trying to use fastboot cable to restore system on locked HW will fail
I own an 8.9 HDX 3rd generation kindle fire, and have been doing ALOT of reading on xda as to what I can or cant do with my kindle. I read that if you intend to do any work adapting the khdx, it is advised to use a factory cable. I'm having the same problem as MinerBoy004 in that I cant find anywhere to buy said factory cable..the ones from hong kong suit the kindle HD, but theres no mention of the hdx. Any links, or advise (I cant solder lol) would be gratefully recieved...as my hdx up dated to 4.5.5.2 at the beginning of the week, I'm holding off doing anything atm so its not urgent.
thanks
Pusspaws said:
I own an 8.9 HDX 3rd generation kindle fire, and have been doing ALOT of reading on xda as to what I can or cant do with my kindle. I read that if you intend to do any work adapting the khdx, it is advised to use a factory cable. I'm having the same problem as MinerBoy004 in that I cant find anywhere to buy said factory cable..the ones from hong kong suit the kindle HD, but theres no mention of the hdx. Any links, or advise (I cant solder lol) would be gratefully recieved...as my hdx up dated to 4.5.5.2 at the beginning of the week, I'm holding off doing anything atm so its not urgent.
thanks
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Any post/thread that suggests a factory/fastboot cable works on a Fire HDX is misinformed (with one notable exception that does NOT apply to your device). Fastboot cables do work with with some Fire models but definitely NOT 3rd gen HDX. If you are currently on 4.5.5.2 the device is not rootable at present which is a prerequisite to any meaningful mods. Hopefully a vulnerability and related exploit can be identified soon. Best way to find out is by monitoring threads in this forum or just try Kingroot from time to time.
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Davey126 said:
Any post/thread that suggests a factory/fastboot cable works on a Fire HDX is misinformed (with one notable exception that does NOT apply to your device). Fastboot cables do work with with some Fire models but definitely NOT 3rd gen HDX. If you are currently on 4.5.5.2 the device is not rootable at present which is a prerequisite to any meaningful mods. Hopefully a vulnerability and related exploit can be identified soon. Best way to find out is by monitoring threads in this forum or just try Kingroot from time to time.
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I can positively confirm that a fastboot cable (doesn't matter which one,
they are all the same; you can even make one yourself) does make a major
difference: my bricked device shows up as QHSUSB_BULK with a fastboot
cable, but doesn't register at all with the factory cable.
Depending on firmware version, this could even make unbricking possible.
Chances are that this is that notable exception... (-;
draxie said:
I can positively confirm that a fastboot cable (doesn't matter which one,
they are all the same; you can even make one yourself) does make a major
difference: my bricked device shows up as QHSUSB_BULK with a fastboot
cable, but doesn't register at all with the factory cable.
Depending on firmware version, this could even make unbricking possible.
Chances are that this is that notable exception... (-;
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Yup - that's the "notable exception" referenced in my post. If working from QHSUSB_BULK similar low level environment fastboot cables can be indispensable. Until recently that was the purview of a few hard core geeks.