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8525 freezes, soft reset, then "No GSM"

Recurring 8525 problem since upgrading to WM6 ROM (AT&T version). The phone will freeze completely (clock doesn't advance, screen and buttons and keyboard don't accept input, display freezes at on or off). When restarted by soft reset, the phone will frequently come back up with no GSM. When that happens, sometimes if I remove the battery and leave the phone off for a few hours then GSM will come back and will work for a while and then lock up again.
When it comes back with GSM service all of the network logon info for GPRS, my Wi-Fi networks with their auth info is gone.
Also email accounts are gone from the account picker and can't be re-created with the same names even though they have completely disappeared. I assume the settings are still in the registry but accounts just aren't showing. One account still shows on the Today screen, but isn't in the account picker.
A hard reset "fixes" things for a while. I've experimented with only installing a few of the most necessary 3rd party apps, without finding any "smoking gun" program that's causing problems. I've also re-seated the SIM card multiple times. I'm thinking it might be a hardware problem.
Today I flashed the radio to 1.54 and it has worked for a couple of hours without needing to be reset.
I'd be interested to hear what possible diagnostic paths I should look at before I call AT&T and begin the rigmarole required by tech support. Anyone with a very similar situation?
Thanks in advance.

I'm having the same problem. I was thinking of going to AT&T to get a new SIM, thinking that was the problem. Any solution yet?
-Pete

I started having the same problem with mine last week.
Sometimes it locks up, sometimes it gets stuck at the windows logo durring boot, always displays no gsm rom on boot.
Take a look at the how to unbrick thread. no gsm rom msg is one of the types of brick.
I installed hard spl ( already had it actually ). Flashed os, but it didn't help. Flashed GSM and no gsm msg went away. The phone is still acting strangely.

remember, just because the rom came from your carrier DOESNT mean that it doesnt have problems. Alot of people seem to have problems with upgraded rom versions from their carrier and end up either downgrading to previous rom or flashing cooked roms. try the previous rom or another cooked rom and see if that fixes the problem before blaming the hardware. It will save you a major headache trying to troubleshoot something that is working perfectly....
Please remember to do a bit of reading and hard spl your device before going off and bricking your Hermes. 10 minutes of reading might prevent hours, days or weeks of hair pulling, nail biting insanity to find the answer. Cheers.

hello people,
I have my SVP M3100, original from orange spain - but CID unlock to work with portuguese carrier, now I live and work in Hereford UK, and I use a sim from Three and other from Lebara the three sim is to have net on my pc and the lebara sim is to make low cost international call, and i switch many times the sim's to make calls and to have internet, now i have the same problem that you have, i try to upload the HTC original rom that have IPL. BOOTLOADER, SPLASH SCREENS EXTROM GSM, but lock at 12% I try upload ongly radio rom and the same a think that somekind of hardware problem caused by to many sims switch, if any body have one solution please tell me

Sometimes it locks up, sometimes it gets stuck at the windows logo durring boot, always displays no gsm rom on boot."
Same thing happened to me. Tried to reflash original ATT ROM , Radio Only, OS only. Gonna send it for the repair. Phone is not under warranty anymore hope that the price of repair will be less than price of new phone.
BTW, is there any way to remove Hard SPL from the phone?

how much was the price of repair?

Try changing you radio to a new one. i have had the same problems in the past with different radio roms and rom versions. so i am using radio 1.54.30.10 with pdavet roms and have had no isuue.

Ray_jai said:
how much was the price of repair?
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Got my phone back fixed. They charged me for shipping only $19

only $19!?
What if I don't have ATT anymore?
do you know?

i had the same issue check for my previous posts i think no GSM is a common error there is method flashing himalaya rom on hermes to erase GSM sector.
if you cant find the link PM me .
i hope it solves your problem.

tracylynnt said:
Recurring 8525 problem since upgrading to WM6 ROM (AT&T version). The phone will freeze completely (clock doesn't advance, screen and buttons and keyboard don't accept input, display freezes at on or off). When restarted by soft reset, the phone will frequently come back up with no GSM. When that happens, sometimes if I remove the battery and leave the phone off for a few hours then GSM will come back and will work for a while and then lock up again.
When it comes back with GSM service all of the network logon info for GPRS, my Wi-Fi networks with their auth info is gone.
Also email accounts are gone from the account picker and can't be re-created with the same names even though they have completely disappeared. I assume the settings are still in the registry but accounts just aren't showing. One account still shows on the Today screen, but isn't in the account picker.
A hard reset "fixes" things for a while. I've experimented with only installing a few of the most necessary 3rd party apps, without finding any "smoking gun" program that's causing problems. I've also re-seated the SIM card multiple times. I'm thinking it might be a hardware problem.
Today I flashed the radio to 1.54 and it has worked for a couple of hours without needing to be reset.
I'd be interested to hear what possible diagnostic paths I should look at before I call AT&T and begin the rigmarole required by tech support. Anyone with a very similar situation?
Thanks in advance.
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I've got exact the same symtoms. No GSM, network and auth settings gone, opera registration lost etc. It started a few days a go, in the beginning I had a working GSM most of the time, but it became less and less and now it doesn't have service at all anymore.
Currently device information shows:
ROM version: K's Rom v1.21
ROM date: 10/03/07
Radio version: NONE
Protocol version: NONE
Model No.: HERM300
IMEI: <empty>
Does anyone know a permanent solution?

I have the SAME PROBLEM!
I was about to get radio to work 3 days ago, and now the radio says none.
it's like the radio removed itself.
ok this doesn't make sense, I used the hima rom to remove the radio.
and now the radio is back! wtf?

Hm I tried everything but I can't seem to reflash the radio. About every version I try hangs at 0%. Sometimes when I flash from SD card it hangs at arount 10%.
Tried different SPL versions as well
Damn you radio!!!

BTW, I have no idea what they did to my phone there, but after returning from the AT&T Repair center the Call timer was zeroed and Device ID is now different from what it was before in Skyscape software

Any solutions yet? Im having the same issues.

The reason why Active Sync restarts
For many people the Workaround "not a hack or registry at all" does not work is because of a event based notification that runs the program anytime the time changes. Since your phone updates from the cell tower, it updates the time alot even if by mere seconds well this update runs activesync. Get yourself MemMaid
run it in advanced mode then Jump to Databases then select Notification Queue you will see a list of 3 types of Queues; Time Based, Classic Time Based, and Event based. Go to the event based queue, you should see at the end of this list 3 listing for repllog.exe with the active sync icon. Click on them individualy and read what shows up in the window below put a check mark next to the listing that describes the event as "apprunaftertimechange" it is normaly the last one on list
Also make sure there is no repllog.exe listed in any other queue for a time based event. Leave the other instances of repllog.exe since you still want your device to sync when its connected to the computer. Once you select all events that desribe running repllog.exe after a time change or at a certian time and date press the delete button.
This worked for me on my 8125 and the tilt and if i would of figured this out before i had ATT replace my 8525 i probably would of not got the tilt but lol they gave me tilt free cause all the problems i had with 8525.
let me know if this works for you guys that still see activesync running after the fake server WORKAROUND.
This should work
memmaid is not free but i think its free to try and if all you do with it is fix this problem then great or find a way to register it cause it does help has cool tricks and tweaks

Wow, still no real fixes for this problem, bummer

running memmaid work
running memmaid works and fixes the random start of activesync and once the random start of activesync is fixed the device will not lock up because of activesync this not to say if some other program you may have installed locking you up as well

Debranded Desire won't connect to mobile operator

I bought a HTC Desire branded to Orange UK trough eBay when i was working there last month. The First thing i did was to debrand it using the 1.15.405.2 that i found on MoDaCa, and i bought a unlock key on eBay. This solution worked pretty well until the OTA update showed up, the i got the known WiFi issue. That was no biggie either, just installed the RUU of the 1.21.405.2 and the new Radio, and everything seemed to be perfect again
BUT THEN, two days ago, my phone suddenly lost it's connection to the my mobile operator . I tried to swap my sim card with another sim card, and the result was that my HTC Desire wouldn't get connection while my sim card worked well in the other phone. I also browsed trough my menus to try to find something that might be wrong, but no luck. If i tried to connect to my mobile operator manually, i got a message saying something like "SIM-card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Yesterday morning, i called HTC to try to find out if this might be a hw or sw malfunction, and he advertised me to do a factory settings restore and felt pretty confident that it only was the sw letting me down. I did as he suggested and boom, it worked...for about 5-6 hours, then it came back. As if that wasn't annoying enough, a factory settings restore didn't do the trick this time, and neither did a reflash with the goldcard. I even formated my mSD to be sure there wasn't any kind of virus on it.
So please, if anyone in here got a tip regarding sw, let me know. I'm helpless without my dear phone...

Hmmm this is my biggest concern... I'm just about to buy an ebay Orange Desire and flash it with a stock ROM and unlock it.... kinda worrying as I'm no Linux man really...

im not sure if its the same thing but i have lost conection to t mobile on my desire twice now. first time was fixed by re entering the apn. this time no change. the differance is mine is un branded. i also cant do mms any more.

Unbranded and debranded, same ****, isn't it? Niter means branded...
Seems like i'm not the only one with this problem: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/5...nt-re-connect/page__view__findpost__p__405655
Lots of Vodafone users in that forum has similar issues, but most of them seems to have a workaround by turn off the back on, or go by airplane mode to get signal back, tat doesn't work for me. I tried to flash my phone once more, but still no luck.
I'm considering a root operation and install android 2.2 aka froyo, but i'm not even sure if that is possible since i got the bootloader version 0.80...

ive just got mine working again by resting the apns to default.
mms still not working though. i hope its not a voda problem i just paid off t mobile a years contract to join voda due to terrible reception and crap tech support.

what is that, and how do you do it? I would guess that a reset to factory default and/or a complete reflash would take care of such, whatever it is...

Yep I was about to ask the same thing! what is it and how do you turn it on/off?

go to settings - wirless & networks - mobile networks - access point names - then press the menu key and hit reset to default.
hope this helps you

That did the same thing as a "reset to factory defaults", but still doesn't work

I've an unbranded unlocked desire on 3 UK with original firmware and mine does drop out occasionally but always comes back perhaps its a desire quirk !
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Suppose so, but unlike you and many others, mine doesn't come back I was hoping for a fix for this issue, but i'm afraid were talking about hw malfunction, let's hope i'm wrong...

Little update, just followed this guide, but that didn't change anything. As far as i know, i now got some kind of rooted version of HBOOT 0.75 and fw.ver. 1.15.405.4, dunno about radio version. But it also says that i'm not able to install a custom rom with this rooted version, but i might be able to completely root it now and then install a custom rom?

Yet another update, i did install the 2.2 Froyo following this guide, and unlike the HTC roms, this one indicates that i do have full/optimal connection to my mobile operator, but it still won't let me call, just replies with 'Mobile network not available'.
I kinda courages me to scream out loud ****!!! Yes, i mean it...

Feedback would be nice
Just a thought, may i be that the guy i bought the phone from could have reported it as stolen with the intention of getting an insurance fee? And as a result of that, my phone have been closed by the operator? Don't even know if they mind doing such across the border. So the question would be: Is there any way to find out if my phone has been remotely closed?

Call your carrier.... they will be able to tell you if the phone is connecting to the nextwork correctly... ask them if not... why not?

I second that suggestion, try calling your carrier. Also I have found that switching the internet on directly through settings rather than using the widgets solved my connection problem.
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Yep, i got contact with the seller from eBay, and he is very helpful, so he will do what he can while i will call my carrier first thing in the morning. Seems like there might be a glitch here, but i'll keep you updated on my progress.

argh, it seems like i wont get anywhere with my phone. I'm considering trying to change the IMEI, i know it's illegal, but i paid £360 for this device, and atm it's useless to me. If i only knew how tho change the imei, not exactly easy information to obtain, not even with google...

hulkhaugen said:
argh, it seems like i wont get anywhere with my phone. I'm considering trying to change the IMEI, i know it's illegal, but i paid £360 for this device, and atm it's useless to me. If i only knew how tho change the imei, not exactly easy information to obtain, not even with google...
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So have you found out why your having problems?

ah, sorry, thought i already told u guys, lol. Well, for some reason the phone is IMEI locked. The seller says that he did call to lock a sim card when he lost his iphone, and it might be related since it's the sim that was suppose to be in my phone. however, i think he either claimed the phone stolen to commit insurance fraud, or it's simply stolen. Another thing i came across was that the operator might blacklist the phone if it's unlocked without their blessing, don't really know if they can do that.
Either way, the only way for me to make this phone work is to convince the police that it's not stolen (i need a recite for that which he won't provide me), or to change the imei code with my "awesome" hacking skills...

GSM not working anymore, stuck in emergency mode

Hello all,
my Defy is stuck in emergency mode and can't find my carrier anymore (o2). Details:
- only emergency calls possible, no network found
- another mobile in my house gets outstanding connection (o2 aswell), when switching SIMs, it's still my Defy not getting a connection
- wiping the Defy has not changed anything, even with stock settings all I see is the red cross (put my settings back with clockwork recovery)
- an hour or two before this happened I was listening to music with my headphones, but between taking the headphones out and GSM failing I was sending texts
- When doing a search for other carriers I can see some (though not reliably), but not mine
- I bought my Defy via Amazon, so no SIMlock, obviously.
- WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS are all working fine, so they probably have different antennae
- I rooted my Defy, but this was over a month ago, and it was working fine. I also did not install apps or update some existing ones before this happened. I also did not reboot. It just happened. Put it in my pocket and next time I got it out there was the red cross.
In Phone Info -> Status it says under signal strength "-111 dBm 1APU". It all looks like the antenna is broken, but I didn't hit it, drop it, put it into water or hurt it in any way before this happened or the 3-4 days before. So I'm really lost here.
Anyone? Thanks in advance.

Hi. Have the defy for about a month now. Same issue since first day. Dont know whats wrong. Found out that after 4-5 reboots its ok and lasts till next reboot/switch off. So try turn it on/off 4-5 time or just download a quick reboot app and do the same to see what happens. If aneyone has any idea on how to fix this?

i get this all the time when i flash my defy thru any other rom......and thus roll back every time to stock (indian) rom.....
try flashing your phone with any compatible rom....new radios might get ure phone working

Same problem here. First time today, spontaneous, after a month of use my Defy, non rooted, never unlocked, standard noMOTOBLUR, just like as it was bought from store. Moto_Versiuo.2.34.1.MB525.Retail.en.SEA
None of these worked to restablish the radio connection: succesive reboot, manual/automatic network search and choose, succesive airplane on/off. I didn't check the signal parameters.
I thought that the SIM just burned, removed and try it on another phone and everything was OK. When put it back in Defy, the network connection was established.
The experience was very strange and my final verdict was that the SIM just moved a little from its initial position.
BUT now I realize the problem is more complex and I don't know what caused it !

I have also noticed that the sim card slot gives a little more space for the simcard to move (at least on my defy). Might be a prob with the sim card being old or something (mine is from 2005). For now i'll just try to keep my phone on (seems i finally found stable settings for setvsel, so no more unexpected reboots).
An answer from motorola's official support forum is just remove the simcard and clean it with some cloth...

This is definitely a sim slot/card problem. If bought from amazon they will oblige to change it without any money. I did the same but not for this problem.
If you think there is some problem with software, which is unlikely then flash an sbf and see if things are fine.
To begin with flash chinese froyo sbf. It is downgradable to any previous firmware you were using and very flexible.
Hope this can solve your problem. Get back on what the result is.

Same here...
My defy got network yesterday at 07pm til mid-night.
before, since 16 (11pm) til 19 (7pm) before it function again.
and now, its bloked.
i rooted my cell one month ago, then, probably thats not the fault of z4root.
Sorry about my badass english, i still in upgrade mode.
any idea about it guys ?
thnx
MrDonuts ( Brazil )

Problem solved replacing sim card with a new.

Data Problem since Mango

Hi Guys,
My phone has developed a pretty cripling problem since updating to Mango. I waited for the official update from my carrier without any forced tricks.
Basically my data connection is randomly dropping out. My phone will still display G/E/3G/H or whatever but there is no network connectivity. Nothing works and if i try a web page i just get connection/dns errors.
The only way to solve this is a soft-reset. Even flight mode on-off doesn't always seem to work.
I thought it was a bug on my network since Orange and T-Mobile share and that it may have had a problem switching between but i've manually selected my home network (Orange) and it's still happening.
So basically i'm now in a position where i have to manually check my data connection is actually working and if not, soft reset my phone. I can't be doing this, it's ridiculous having to re-set my phone numerous times a day!
Like i say this problem has only arrisen since Mango. I've read on the net a few others with this issue but no fix.
Are any of you guys experiencing something similar? Or know what I could try?
Thanks :/

I had that issue with WiFi for a couple of days after updating but it fixed itself. You might want to ask Orange for a replacement device if it stays like that.

I'm experiencing the exact same issue with my HD7 since a couple of days now. But I assume it's a hardware failure. My device is causing all different kinds of trouble like rebooting randomly several times a day, refusing to launch apps and so on. I'm going to send it in for repair.

Peew971 said:
I had that issue with WiFi for a couple of days after updating but it fixed itself. You might want to ask Orange for a replacement device if it stays like that.
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It's odd i didn't notice it for a week after updating but then when i was out and about it dropped. Then every day since it's done the same thing.
So frustrating, it doesn't appear to be a localised network issue as it happened when i travelled around 100 miles away too!
Might give orange a call then and see what they say. Just seems a bit of a co0incidence that it's only happened after the Mango update.

Been on the phone to orange - They've sent me some network settings message, tbh i can't see it doing anything but they said if it carries on they'll just replace the handset.
Bit annoying really since other than this it's flawless.

I have the same problem, just restored back to pre-mango. no point being on Mango if i can't consume any data.
Spoke to Orange couple of days ago and "they said not our problem, call Samsung".
a joke.

k_aftab said:
I have the same problem, just restored back to pre-mango. no point being on Mango if i can't consume any data.
Spoke to Orange couple of days ago and "they said not our problem, call Samsung".
a joke.
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Has restoring back fixed the data problem?
My sister also has an Omnia 7 on Orange and she has the same problem. So that's at least 3 cases Orange have been made aware of, I can only assume there are more.
I don't see any point retunring my phone as i assume when i update the replacement to Mango the same problem will arise.
Also do you have insurance with Orange? I was offered a replacement as i have the Orange care thing.

For reference,
I started a thread on the MS Answers site and a few others on Orange UK are
having the same problem.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-wppics/data-connection-problem-since-mango-update/1544a63f-7bf0-43fa-837c-7e89f10b86ab?page=1&tm=1319027651966#footer
If anyone here is suffering could they add their details to the list and mark it as "im having this problem too" to bring it to the attention of MS please?
Thanks!

I have a simfree omnia7 with an o2 UK SIM in it and I also have data connection problems since the mango update. It must be the phone coz it works fine on my desire HD with the same sim in it. Mite be time to get myself a titan instead me thinks.
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I just resolved this problem for my HTC Trophy!!!!
The cause seems to be that the APN settings where erased/blanked after the update to Mango.
I have a Vodafone branded HTC Trophy and my provider is T-mobile. After I supplied the APN settings from T-mobile, my data connection keeps on working!
Try it, maybe this helps!
APN settings can be edited through "Settings" - "Mobile Network (or Cellular)" - "edit apn" (scroll down!)

I have a similar problem on the Omnia7 with T-Mobile.
Sometimes my connection just drops, completely, no bars, no internet nothing. It'll come back after a few minutes though. I also have seen some similar problems to you with internet, displaying 3G+ but not actually loading anything.
I also seem to roam a lot now on T-Mobile Orange, even at home and when roaming I can't use the net at all.
Having said all this, I didn't force Mango but I was on the Developer Beta which (I think) means it just automatically upgraded to a generic Mango rom? I'm pretty sure T-Mobile have been slow with their updates, I've had mango since the first week release.

[Q] Radio seems to crash?

Device: European GSM model "YAKJU"
ROM: stock 4.2.1, freshly installed from Google provided image
I swiped my device a few weeks back, after a bad experiment. Reflashed the Google image and all was swell. Until a few days back, my phones radio seems to crash at arbitrary moments, yet very often.
Symptoms: good reception, able to use internet over EDGE/3G and all of a sudden no coverage whatsoever. Nothing then works: tried going into airplane mode and back, tried resetting the radio in the telephone info menu (*#*#4636#*#*), the only solution is to reboot the phone. Then we're back to square one: everything works for a short while (minutes at best) then zilch again. Very frustrating!
The funny thing is, the telephone info menu still gives me info about signal strength. Also, IMEI number is no problem, I still have one (seeing this seems to be a common issue).
I'm completely lost here. Why would my phone, all of a sudden, be doing this? Anyone? :-\ Is there a logfile somewhere I could look at (rooted phone), possibly telling me what's crashing exactly?
UPDATE: well, I thought swapping sims with a colleague would be a good idea to troubleshoot further (and make sure it wasn't a faulty sim card), but to my horror I now get no service whatsoever, even after a reboot! The phone doesn't even ask for a sim code... Yikes? Hardware failure or still possibly software? Would a factory reset do anything?
UPDATE2: Factory reset didn't help, at all. Same issue, no connection whatsoever.
UPDATE3: What the ****ing ****. I reflashed the stock Google image (again) and at first it seemed much worse: I no longer had a IMEI (*#06#). Hit the Google and saw nothing more than "ahh, sucks, send it for repair!". So I was preparing to do so, took out the battery to write down the serial, popped it back in, rebooted and... all is well now. IMEI is back and it seems to have and keep its connection now?! I don't have a single clue on as what and/or how though, but it sure as hell is no hardware issue. Google, get that **** together, this was your flagship phone! :\
UPDATE4: Spoke too soon. Scratch the previous update, I just lost all radio again. Back to square one!

Noone?