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I am initiating my third project this winter season.
Purpose of this project:
The project is to successfully make a 9600mAh battery @ 3.7VDC.
Objective:
Use least amount of resources. Battery should be created easily by anyone. Budget is less than $100 USD.
Materials:
3x 3200mAh Li-Ion batteries
4x Copper conduit cables with plastic wrapping
- 2x Copper cables 5mm Width, 4-5cm Lenght.
- 2x Copper cables 1-2mm Width, 4-5cm Lenght.
1x Tin (Sn) Soldering Unit.
1x 2-3cm battery door.
Procedure:
1. As you see there are 4 compartments of power conductor on the battery (metal copper) where the battery touches the Universal pins.
2. Stack up all the batteries so that they are one over the other in same position parallely.
3. Take the copper cable and connect it to each batteries metal spot. Ofcourse the bigger compartment is going to require the 5mm wire and the other small ones will require 2mm.
4. Solder the wires tightly and they must touch all the compartments.
5. There should be a little bit of wire left in the end and that wire must touch the first battery a bit.
6. Make sure you do not use excess wire otherwise all the batteries wont fit in the battery door.
7. The first battery will clip into the Universal but now here is the modification you have to make to the other batteries.
Break off the clips on the other batteries. Front and back slip in clips. This will enable the batteries to fit in the case and probably make room for the copper wires too.
8. Now here is the problem. If you are making a 4800mAh battery stack (3200mAh + 1600mAh) then you are lucky and can custom order a battery door. For the other people making 9600mAh or 6400mAh you will have to make your own battery door probably by using molding plastic tools.
Now please keep note not to ever ever ever solder anything to the pins on the Universal power recieving wires. Otherwise you are in big trouble and probaly damaged the power supply but you can cut the solder off.
Results:
So this is the array of batteries you have just built. I will built a 5000mAh battery so this is how it will work for me. i have a 1800mAh battery that is of normal flat size and a 3200mAh battery. Both of same 3.7V ~ VDC. Therefore, we can conclude that both stacked. The wires were connected parallely and i preffered to break the clips on the 3200mAh battery since my 1800mAh is metallic. I asked Lion Battery to send me a battery door for their 4800mAh batteries and they arranged it for $10 or something and it fit my battery stack because it was approximately 1cm extended.
So first the wires were soldered on the 3200mAh and then they reached down to the 1800mAh. The 1800mAh connected independently to the pins on the Universal. The Universal is now drawing power out of both 3200mAh and 1800mAh batteries!!!!
Conclusion:
I saved $200 on a 5000mAh battery.
Good luck on making your battery stack. Try to post pictures and information if you to undertake this project and are successful.
Regards.
I will buy only if the size remains the same size as 1620mA original battery.
Anything beyond the size is bulky, considering Universal itself is already bulky.
CWKJ said:
I will buy only if the size remains the same size as 1620mA original battery.
Anything beyond the size is bulky, considering Universal itself is already bulky.
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I agree. The maximum available at flat size is 1800mAh. Single Battery. But the point of having the universal is functionality. I dont use it to talk. I use the BT headset.
nuclear
Use car battery and you solve all their own problems
.Will much long work!
Show us photo your super batteries!
If will be a photo we all shall believe that you technical genius!
It would be a Nuclear device...beware
You should realy start to think about your 4th project:
Making BAG for project N3
Guys be nice...
Nuclear any chance of some photos? Put them on Flickr etc.
What kind of usage time do you get?
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YES, be nice... because in theory as long as you connect the batteries in PARALLEL you are not increasing the voltage, but you are increasing the capacity, thus longer battery life. As a matter of fact, you can stack as many as you want.
Now if you are connecting the batteries in SERIES, then you are going to fry (TOAST, if you prefer) your precious Universal.
vijay555 said:
Guys be nice...
Nuclear any chance of some photos? Put them on Flickr etc.
What kind of usage time do you get?
V
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Offcourse I'm joking - but actualy it will be powerfull Universal without chance to put him in .... pocket
i was just thinking of this last night, and there a thread.
anyone have any idea how to make a battery door, or what i call it a battery cover with ease? i do not own any plastic moulding tools
omega_ said:
i was just thinking of this last night, and there a thread.
anyone have any idea how to make a battery door, or what i call it a battery cover with ease? i do not own any plastic moulding tools
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I find making a battery cover/door very easy personally. I did not post upon how to make a battery cover/door but after a lot of thinking i have come up with the procedure to do that too.
1. Order 2x 3200mAh batteries from ebay or anywhere you like. The batteries will include their individual covers. Note that you must order the battery with the square black door and not the aerodynamic silver door. You can also order individual battery doors from ebay by requesting the seller
2. Therefore you will be making a 6400mAh stack of battery.
3. This is where you have get to make a choice. Either to keep the batteries in one compartement or to keep the batteries in separate compartements (recommended).
4. Keeping the batteries in separate compartements helps in cooling effect and prolongs the life of the batteries because batteries emit EMF waves that could damage each other. When the batteries are kept separately they have no chance of effecting each other.
5. Also note that the batteries charge and discharge simultaneously due to charge distrubution factor of 1/2 .
6. Ok now to make the cover. First we will look at the single compartment where both batteries sit together.
- We have two covers and classify them as Cover A and B.
- Cover A will clip into the Universal directly.
- Cut out cover A's roof using a hot cutting knife (recommended to keep soft edges). Let the Cover A cool down and you may now throw away the roof of cover A.
- Cut out the base or rim of Cover B. You know the rim that sits on the Universal. The flat rim part on Cover B must not exist.
- Cover B must now look like a perfect rectangle without any edges because it will sit on Cover A and you will attach them by heating up Cover A and Cover B edges so that they both bond up. You can make this bond either by using permanent glue or moulding using a chisel heat knife.
- So now you have successfully made a 6400mAh battery door. Make sure there is enough room for the wires to pass. Good luck.
7. Now to make the separtate compartement battery holder.
- Cut out the rim of Cover B using the hot knife method.
- Make Cover B sit on Cover A exactly in the same co-ordinates.
- Mold them back and make the bond between Cover A and B so now they are Cover A-B.
- Make a hole in Cover A's roof so you can pull out the wires that are going to Battery B in cover B. Make sure that the battery is first in cover B and you solder the Cover A and B with the battery sitting in Cover B. You wont be able to take out the Battery from Cover B because now it is sitting permanently in Cover B fully SEALED! . Make sure you don't solder the Wires to Battery B before this step.
If additional space is needed or the batteries are heating up, just use a metallic 2-5mm stick to make a gap between Compartement A and B.
When i start doing this i will post pictures of the battery stack and my new battery door.
Good luck in making your battery door.
By parallel battery stacking i mean that 1 wire goes through all the batteries touching each batteries metal compartment, since Universal batteries have 4 of these compartements we going to have 4 wires touching each of those metal parts. All the 4 wires must run parallely without touching each other. And that is why we cover them with plastic.
Now if I am correct a series connection is where all batteries connect directly to the Universal, which will fry the universal due to excessive voltage input around 10-12Volts. When the batteries connect all in line then its a parallel and voltage input does not change. Its only the capacity that changes. But you must make sure a wire is running directly to the universal and all the other batteries are connected to that wire. Its like a branching except the main branch connects to the Universal and all the sub branches are the batteries.
I will post pictures when i get home of what i am looking for. It seems words arent enough. Pictures Pictures Pictures!! and Diagrams. I know you all want to see the blueprints. Thats why when i go home today i will make the blueprints in autocad or by hand and upload pictures here. I will also show you what series connections are and how you can fry the battery/Universal if a wrong connection is made.
I personally wont be attempting this project until i make a good cover for the battery. I will ask those 4800mAh battery sellers to give me a cover without the battery for $5-$20. Dont want the 4800mAh battery from those sellers $200 .
Actually now that i think about it i would like to stick with 1800mAh only because its so flat with the universal and not at all bulky. But i dont care about the bulk because i never use the phone to call. Like i never hold it to my ear. Always use a BT headset. This bulk battery is seriously going to be heavy.
Truly I would advice you all to stay with the 1600-1800mAh battery until a new battery is released of the same size with higher capacity.
Okay if you guys really want me to attempt this project I will. But I wont be using that huge stack. Also if someone could help me I would really appreciate it. Afterall I am trying to help you guys too. I dont want you guys spending so much money on something thats so cheap. You guys already spent a lot of money on the Universal and I suggest you dont get cheated by this battery thing. Thats why I didnt have any pictures. But i can atleast provide blueprints. I am doing all this for you guys and not personally for myself. I could have done this project at home and never let any of you know. But there are some days when I am struck and I come looking for help on the internet and i get that help. Thats why I would also be a part of that help and help other people with all I have to offer. So please dont get mad if i dont have pictures or my setup does not work. I am trying my best.
Parallel Battery Stacking
My first picture of how parallel stacking should look like. This is one of the blueprints i post. Make sure your wires are minimal. Very small wires otherwise the batteries wont fit in there. Even the cover must be able to support the wires. If you are making a twin compartment battery case, then better make holes in the partition for the passage of the wires. I will post a blueprint for that too, the cover that is. The key to success in this project is to minimize wires as much as possible.
Also good news! A recent technology has been invented that lets you charge your electronics on wireless!. Plug in the adapter into the wall and there you go. You have wireless charging. I saw this news somewhere I dont remember exactly but I know it was a valid news source.
nuclear said:
My first picture of how parallel stacking should look like. This is one of the blueprints i post. Make sure your wires are minimal. Very small wires otherwise the batteries wont fit in there. Even the cover must be able to support the wires. If you are making a twin compartment battery case, then better make holes in the partition for the passage of the wires. I will post a blueprint for that too, the cover that is. The key to success in this project is to minimize wires as much as possible.
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As you make the wires thinner, they will get hotter/the resistance of them will go up, causing more power consumption
nuclear said:
Also good news! A recent technology has been invented that lets you charge your electronics on wireless!. Plug in the adapter into the wall and there you go. You have wireless charging. I saw this news somewhere I dont remember exactly but I know it was a valid news source.
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Charging your electronics on wireless? >.>
As has been asked before for your claims, links, sources... come on man, we can't take your word for everything.
Another alternative ... although not as much fun as making one
I had the same problem of not having enough battery capacity, especially since the original battery starting going bad (it would shut down at about 50% charge, lasting only 30-60 minutes). So I had the choice of getting the original battery for about $25 with shipping or getting the 3150mAh Li-ion Battery for $35 with shipping. I got the 3150mAh about a month ago and have been very pleased with it. It easily lasts 4 hours under full load and I could go a whole working day under normal use ... amazing !!! Also, it actually feels better holding onto the device, since it's easier to grab onto with the indents on either end of the cover. It's wonderful, not having to worry about carrying around my charger everywhere. I ended up getting it from www.Gizmos2Go.com (http://www.gizmos2go.com/xcart/search.php?mode=search). They were out of stock when I ordered it, but were very nice about keeping me up to date on the progress. Although, it's available elsewhere, so shop for the best price ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Li-Ion+battery+High+Capacity+3150+jasjar.
Another alternative I use is to use a mini-USB "batter extender" that works with 4AA batteries. It's worked well with the Universal with Li-Ion batteries. Here's a link to one of these types of chargers ... http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...ries-power+accessories~item~USB-BATADPT01.htm.
I know these aren't nearly as much fun as making one yourself, but they both have worked well for me. Anyways, I hope this helps someone make a decision.
olliesshop said:
I had the same problem of not having enough battery capacity, especially since the original battery starting going bad (it would shut down at about 50% charge, lasting only 30-60 minutes). So I had the choice of getting the original battery for about $25 with shipping or getting the 3150mAh Li-ion Battery for $35 with shipping. I got the 3150mAh about a month ago and have been very pleased with it. It easily lasts 4 hours under full load and I could go a whole working day under normal use ... amazing !!! Also, it actually feels better holding onto the device, since it's easier to grab onto with the indents on either end of the cover. It's wonderful, not having to worry about carrying around my charger everywhere. I ended up getting it from www.Gizmos2Go.com (http://www.gizmos2go.com/xcart/search.php?mode=search). They were out of stock when I ordered it, but were very nice about keeping me up to date on the progress. Although, it's available elsewhere, so shop for the best price ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Li-Ion+battery+High+Capacity+3150+jasjar.
Another alternative I use is to use a mini-USB "batter extender" that works with 4AA batteries. It's worked well with the Universal with Li-Ion batteries. Here's a link to one of these types of chargers ... http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...ries-power+accessories~item~USB-BATADPT01.htm.
I know these aren't nearly as much fun as making one yourself, but they both have worked well for me. Anyways, I hope this helps someone make a decision.
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Hey thanks ollie, this helps a lot. I really like external power, 4AA batteries are nice. I can use my AA 2700mAh battery and 4 of them will make the Universal last a long time. I really like my 1800mAh battery and with this external power idea i can use my universal for a long time. I use my universal in my car, office and work. I am mostly using my headset so make/answer calls. So I could stick to the 1800mAh and put my universal in a leather case and belt clip and carry it around. While i want to play games or chat on msn i can hook up the external AA batteries and the batteries will be in my pocket while i am using the universal.
Yes thats the one and last thing i want to know. If the cable is long enough to hide the AA external batteries... atleast 60-100cm
Pics
Nuclear,
Your project really intrigued me. Do you have any pictures of your work in progress or finished product? Thanks.
I have a Sino battery from eBay, insanely cheap (something like £16 shipped) with the bulgy cover. Works brilliantly.
I'm amazed by some of the claims of poor battery life. I make very little use of my device, but I also seem to get 4 days+ of standby/occasional use with this battery installed! As in, take it on holiday, show it to people, make a couple of calls, play a couple of games, bit of WiFi in the pub - that sort of thing - and it had 39% charge after four days.
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I think nuclear means shorter, not thinner - reducing any resistance
Thought I would write a quick review of the extended battery I just bought.
Background
I was rather unhappy with my original battery as were most people! It only lasted me a day and as my job requires me to be out and about a lot, plus to call people often, I thought something more robust would be better. My solution = The Cameron Sino 2600mAH Battery!
Initial Impressions
The battery is twice the size of stock. The battery cover did not close on my phone. Total size isnt too bad. It nearly doubles the phone thickness, but when I come onto the testing section later this is a worthwhile sacrifice.
Cover Fit
The cover didnt fit so I decided to buy a 32gb micro sd card (which works fine), and to super glue the cover on. I figured that using a scalpel I could remove the back (I tested and it works fine) if ever required. Hopefully I wont need to access it ever, or until I upgrade in 18 months and decide to sell it.
Performance
After charging to 100%, running down to 0% 3 times, I have now had the phone on for 5 days and it's current charge level is 10%. As you can see this is awesome. My settings:
Helix Launcher
Wifi On about an hour a day
Light phone calls (around 5 hours)
Light texting - 20 odd a day
3g Off
GPS off
I imagine in real life conditions 3 days moderate use would be obtainable.
Conclusion
Overall I am very very happy with this battery. It really brings this phone into the "worthwhile for daily use" category (it should have been here originally ofcourse). Hopefully will be able to use the standard UI rather than Helix when 2.1 comes out. Damn app power leaks.
Rating: 4/5 (Battery door a poor fit)
Edit: Forgot to mention at £16.99 delivered (amazon.co.uk), you can hardly go wrong!!!
Could you post a pic of your phone now please?
Unfortunately my only camera is my phone...... sorry. Maybe someone else can!?
Wow! I assume you like your phone carrier since it is difficult now to remove the sim card.
Well my carrier (Three) used to be terrible. However they appear to have upgraded their cell towers and I now have full signal most places that my friends dont! So yeah I like my carrier!
Why dont you buy the extra thick covers that are all over ebay so that you dont have to glue anything?
Edit: My bad they arent on ebay, but there is a thread in the accessories forum, I'm sure of it.
theres a couple of posts and reviews in a thread on here already and myself and several others paid just £12.99 free postage from ebay
Yeah I rarely buy off ebay - had a lot of problems with sellers before (might just be my luck ). I saw the other reviews, and just wanted to do my own hehe.
any chance to get a pic of your phone? how it looks with the glued cover?
If i ma not wrong, that battery comes with a cover for X10 right? Are u saying that that cover that they provide does not fit properly?
Mine fits properly. You just have to force the sides of the cover into place and thats it. Battery life is much better than the oem one and has a very noticeable difference.
ordered one from http://www.megacapacity.com/26985.html . Lets see how it goes
Just updating this thread for potential cameron sino battery buyers. I got the package 4 days ago. I removed my stock battery, popped this battery in, used the back cover that was provided by them. The phone became almost twice the depth thanx to the battery.
Then the issues started. Even though the green light used to come on when connected to the mains, the phone never used to start. Initially i thought the charge is low, so left it overnight, but then the next morning i saw tht I still had the same issue. After fidgeting with it for sometime, i noticed that there is a 1(or 0.5) mm gap between the battery and contacts because of which the x10 did not start. I used a thin plastic sheet(amost like a sheet of paper) to hold the battery up against the contact and it worked fine. Right now the problem is that if i shake the phone a bit vigorously, it gets disconnected because of the shorter battery.
But i want to see how the battery lasts so am using it for now. It all boils down to the time i have to wait till next charge. If it really gives around 70% more time (as claimed by many in other forums) i will use it despite the bulkiness and the smaller battery issues. Thanx for reading!!!
so this comes with a case as well for £12.99?
Khimera said:
Just updating this thread for potential cameron sino battery buyers. I got the package 4 days ago. I removed my stock battery, popped this battery in, used the back cover that was provided by them. The phone became almost twice the depth thanx to the battery.
Then the issues started. Even though the green light used to come on when connected to the mains, the phone never used to start. Initially i thought the charge is low, so left it overnight, but then the next morning i saw tht I still had the same issue. After fidgeting with it for sometime, i noticed that there is a 1(or 0.5) mm gap between the battery and contacts because of which the x10 did not start. I used a thin plastic sheet(amost like a sheet of paper) to hold the battery up against the contact and it worked fine. Right now the problem is that if i shake the phone a bit vigorously, it gets disconnected because of the shorter battery.
But i want to see how the battery lasts so am using it for now. It all boils down to the time i have to wait till next charge. If it really gives around 70% more time (as claimed by many in other forums) i will use it despite the bulkiness and the smaller battery issues. Thanx for reading!!!
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Thanks for this info! I was having the same issue with this battery. I thought I was having a driver issue for extended batteries but after reading your post, I confirmed that it wasnt the case. Fixed the problem but with a different approach.
What I did was I soldered a small amount of lead onto the contacts on the battery (careful enough not to short the contacts) so that it would give better contact on pins of the x10.. I know the process seems a little bit drastic but it works! I can't make the phone shutdown even when I shook the hell out of this phone.
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Thanks for this info! I was having the same issue with this battery. I thought I was having a driver issue for extended batteries but after reading your post, I confirmed that it wasnt the case. Fixed the problem but with a different approach.
What I did was I soldered a small amount of lead onto the contacts on the battery (careful enough not to short the contacts) so that it would give better contact on pins of the x10.. I know the process seems a little bit drastic but it works! I can't make the phone shutdown even when I shook the hell out of this phone.
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Thanx man!!! I was doubting if only I had the issue. Your plan of soldering seems a permanent fix Will try that when i get time
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Sin...321O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1302209543&sr=8-5
dont know if its just been discounted but its down to £14.99 (from £16.99 OP) on amazon uk.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameron-Sin...321O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1302209543&sr=8-5
dont know if its just been discounted but its down to £14.99 (from £16.99 OP) on amazon uk.
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still expensive !!
to quote myself
kmaximax said:
theres a couple of posts and reviews in a thread on here already and myself and several others paid just £12.99 free postage from ebay
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kmaximax said:
still expensive !!
to quote myself
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not really, i stupidly bought a mugen 1800mah for 33usd! at least it fits properly though.
awsome!!!
5 DAYS!!!!!
awsome, I was planning to sell the phone because of the battery, unfourtionatly I live in sudan and there is no way to buy stuff online here!
Ok so i have had my galaxy s3 for nearly a week now and today i have just received the extra battery kit so i thought i would give a quick review.
Its an official product and comes with the original galaxy s3 battery and a handy stand that holds the phone and charges the battery in a compartment towards the back on the stand.
The stand is piano black finish, which is slightly transperant to allow the LED notification to show though. The LED has three different states:
Red - Charging
Green - Charged
Orange - Error
All that comes in the box is the stand and battery there is no USB charging cable, and the stand itself does not charge the phone, it only charges the spare battery. The stand is very good when you have the phone in landscape but if you want to use the stand to hold the phone in portrait mode it can be a bit fiddle, i found that if you lift the cover where the for the battery compartment the phone sits well in portrait mode and this does not affect charging at all.
see the rest of the photos to get a better look
Pros:
Having two batteries for a smart phone is a must if the phone allows you so to get a handy product like this where you can charge one battery while using the other is a big PLUS
The Battery that comes with it is the exact same as the one that came with the phone which is a very good 2100mAh battery
The stand is great for landscape view
Very stylish
Cons:
You can only charge the spare battery not the battery in the phone itself
Does not come with a USB charging cable
Piano black finish is terrible for finger marks
Overall a great accessory and i would advise any galaxy s3 owner to buy
COST as of Fri 22nd June 2012 on amazon UK is £26.45
Thanks for having a read if you have any questions just let ask, and give me a thanks if this has helped you decide to buy the product or not CHEERS
I didnt see a price mentioned?
sorry my friend it is currently £26.45 on the amazon UK site, what do you think would be tempted to buy it
Some more photos for yous to have a look at as you can see in the first one the finger prints show up very messy on the piano black finish
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could you please check to see if NFC works with the extra battery in?
You could try out credit/debit cards with contactless payment built in or a public transport payment card like an oyster?
thanks
hboos said:
could you please check to see if NFC works with the extra battery in?
You could try out credit/debit cards with contactless payment built in or a public transport payment card like an oyster?
thanks
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The extra battery comes with nfc its the exact same battery as the original are you thinking of buying
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The extra battery comes with nfc its the exact same battery as the original are you thinking of buying
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I am thinking of buying this but my battery says "Near Field Communication" below the SAMSUNG logo while from your pictures, it seems like the extra battery doesn't say this.
If it doesn't have an NFC antenna in it, I can't see much point in spending this much on an official battery.
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I just had a look at my battery and on the other side, it looks like yours in your picture. I guess I will get this after all
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I am thinking of buying this but my battery says "Near Field Communication" below the SAMSUNG logo while from your pictures, it seems like the extra battery doesn't say this.
If it doesn't have an NFC antenna in it, I can't see much point in spending this much on an official battery.
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I just had a look at my battery and on the other side, it looks like yours in your picture. I guess I will get this after all
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Don't worry my friend it says near field communication on the battery I will post a picture when I get home
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Don't worry my friend it says near field communication on the battery I will post a picture when I get home
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don't worry about it, i believe you! thanks anyway :laugh:
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don't worry about it, i believe you! thanks anyway :laugh:
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haha i was about to post a picture but the rom i'm using has some camera bugs so i guess you will just have to believe me lol
if you get the kit let me know what you think
just got the camera mod fixed on my rom with a new update so here is a picture of the NFC info
Hmm, its a bit rubbish that it doesnt charge the phone.
You would have to charge the spare battery and then swap them over.
Or remove the dock cable then charge the phone
Why Samsung?
its not bad but the new charger and usb sync dock thats coming out next week from samsung would be even better, if not then why not get both! battery kit and dock together would be awesome. or even the dock and some hyperion kits!
Does this work with usb cable and car charger?
Will the kit hold a phone with a tpu case?
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its not bad but the new charger and usb sync dock thats coming out next week from samsung would be even better, if not then why not get both! battery kit and dock together would be awesome. or even the dock and some hyperion kits!
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link please
I just received this minutes after posting in this thread.
Was aware of the disability that phone can't be charged at the same time as the battery.
Was NOT aware this kit does not come with its own charging cable! This is a major points deduction.
Overall C$35 shipped to my home in 3 business days is not a bad deal for OEM goodness.
Hi, the stand drains your battery if you leave it inside without the charging cable?
That's odd. I ordered mine from amazon here is the US and mine came with a usb charging cable. Genuine Samsung
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Pre-order, that is
Here it is
At 89.50$ plus shipping it's a little steep, though. And I would have liked to have some images of the product rather than the phone. I know what the phone looks like already.
maybe an Image
you can check http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mugen-Power-Xperia-Compact-3000mAh/dp/B00RWR6XJG/
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Lol. With this case you can probably last 4-5 days with the z3c
Ridiculous price...$89.50
You can BUY n°5 10.000mah rapid charge external battery.......and you can use your z3c for 2 months.
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Pre-order, that is
At 89.50$ plus shipping it's a little steep, though. And I would have liked to have some images of the product rather than the phone. I know what the phone looks like already.
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Does anyone have this for their Z3 compact? Does it fit snugly and clip on properly?
Thats actually a really awesome idea with using the mag charging ports! if it were 50 bucks i would get one right now
I'd love to see this case in a video, just to get a good look at its proportions etc. It is pricey....but I'd probably just spend the cash on car parts anyway.....
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OK. I lasted a whole 10 minutes. No will power. Bought one. I'll post back when I've got it in my hand and will post any pictures/answer any questions you guys might have ?
Ok, I have the charging case. If anyone is interested I am happy to answer questions/post photos etc.
ajgftw said:
Ok, I have the charging case. If anyone is interested I am happy to answer questions/post photos etc.
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You asked for it
1. I would like to see photos of the phone with and without the case lying on a flat surface, to get am idea of how thick it is.
2. When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged? What amount of days shows you ultrastamina mode?
3. How long does it take to charge fully?
4. Do you notice any overheating issues after using the case for some time?
Thanks, that's all I can think of at the moment
charliebigpot said:
You asked for it
1. I would like to see photos of the phone with and without the case lying on a flat surface, to get am idea of how thick it is.
2. When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged? What amount of days shows you ultrastamina mode?
3. How long does it take to charge fully?
4. Do you notice any overheating issues after using the case for some time?
Thanks, that's all I can think of at the moment
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No worries, should be able to answer all that over time.
I can answer question 2 part a) right now.
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When you use the case, does the phone think it's constantly being charged?
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The case has a button on the rear of the case to enable the charging process. When the case is deactivated the phone behaves as it would without the case. With the case activated it behaves as it would when sitting in a charging dock or with a magnetic charging cable attached.
The only 'downside' so far to the use of magnetic charging port is that when the case is activated the phone believes it is in a 'dock' and automatically answers phone calls with the loud speaker on.
But I have found mention of an xposed module that may rectify this automation, I will report back with a link when I have tested to confirm its effect.
I am studying all this week so give me a little while to fully answer all your questions, but I will answer them
Photos
Here are some photos that hopefully show the case and it's proportions well enough.
I'm no photographer by any means though haha.
Oh and ignore the metal dome stuck onto the back of it, that's for my car mount.
That looks so bad!
While it is awesome to have 5 days battery life, this is for special occasions only in my opinion.
apis10 said:
That looks so bad!
While it is awesome to have 5 days battery life, this is for special occasions only in my opinion.
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oh I agree. I wanted it mainly as an alternative to carrying a separate power bank hanging off the phone via USB cable. At least this case attaches neatly to the phone and can still fit my pocket.
So yes, ugly, but highly practical.
I feel I should also mention the build quality is really very good, it feels very solid.
How many days and sot you've got with this battery ?
fabjazz said:
How many days and sot you've got with this battery ?
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Well, given the info on their homepage it should last at least twice as long as your phone does now.
built in battery is 2600mAH, the mugen brings an additional 3000mAh. So I guess in Ultra-Stamina mode it basically lasts like an old Nokia? I was actually about ordering one for my upcoming transatlantic flight, but I just saw that they'll ship again in mid-June only
Well, I will receive the mugen battery in 10 days, I don't use ultra stamina but stamina is on all the time so I will see exactly the difference. Now I have between 8 and 10 hours sot, if I have between 16 and 20 hours sot, it's just great so I wait to see ?.
ajgftw said:
Here are some photos that hopefully show the case and it's proportions well enough.
I'm no photographer by any means though haha.
Oh and ignore the metal dome stuck onto the back of it, that's for my car mount.
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Any more impressions now that you've had it for a short while? I'm really temped to buy one too.. it's just one of those "good-to-have" things.
Also, do you charge it via micro usb, like the smartphone and how long does it take to charge the battery case completely?
Btw, do we already know the size of the Z4 Compact? it would be great if it worked on the upcoming model too..
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Any more impressions now that you've had it for a short while? I'm really temped to buy one too.. it's just one of those "good-to-have" things.
Also, do you charge it via micro usb, like the smartphone and how long does it take to charge the battery case completely?
Btw, do we already know the size of the Z4 Compact? it would be great if it worked on the upcoming model too..
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So far so good! I do intend to put some more stats up from my usage I've just been flat out with university. Luckily that all wraps up next week!
Yep it just charges via the same cable as the phone.
The use of the magnetic charging port definitely makes the case much more useful. I had an epic ZeroLemon case for my note 3 with a built in extended battery and it such an ordeal to install and remove the phone from the case. This is a much better solution.
It's hard to measure the effect it has on predicted battery life because it charges via the magnetic charging port the phone recognises it as an AC charging source.
Once I have got some stats I might even make a little youtube review, maybe, don't want to get famous hahahaha.
Hi guys,
Has anyone given this a shot? I am desperate for battery lately, and was contemplating on getting some extended without a bump. I came across this today!
http://a.co/cswoKD0
Any thoughts?
HiddenKnight said:
Hi guys,
Has anyone given this a shot? I am desperate for battery lately, and was contemplating on getting some extended without a bump. I came across this today!
http://a.co/cswoKD0
Any thoughts?
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There are quite a few cases like the one you mentioned and it has definitely peaked my interest as well. I know some people who own the morphie battery cases and they seem to work well. Try it out and let us know! Hahaa
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Lgv20user said:
There are quite a few cases like the one you mentioned and it has definitely peaked my interest as well. I know some people who own the morphie battery cases and they seem to work well. Try it out and let us know! Hahaa
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What's the difference between this and the 6600mah batteries with rubber case? Both seem to have decent cases.
I don't like that awkward battery shapes, not the bumps of the replacement doors. I'd rather have the case to simplify it.
HiddenKnight said:
Hi guys,
Has anyone given this a shot? I am desperate for battery lately, and was contemplating on getting some extended without a bump. I came across this today!
http://a.co/cswoKD0
Any thoughts?
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I just got mine yesterday. The case it pretty nice, and I like it, but the thickness bothers me personally. It isn't too bad, but I like a slim phone, so I'm using this case as a portable charger.
Here are some details:
PROS
Convenient
Can use phone freely while charging
LED on back that tells case's approximate charge level
VERY easy to take off or put on
Case is very solid. I haven't attempted to drop my phone, but the case will definitely do some protection.
Redirects the speaker to a front facing one with little loss in quality.
NFC still works, unlike many of the larger batteries with custom back plates. I tested NFC with the case on and it worked perfectly fine.
CONS
Just about doubles the weight and thickness of the phone
Case must be turned on to start charging
Once phone reaches 100% charge, the case turns off. Once it does, it seems that you can power it back on again and keep the phone at 100% for a few hours. It's just a tad bit annoying that you need to do this.
Same thing as above, except when unplugging the phone+case from a power source. You need to then power on the case.
Overall, OP, I suggest you getting one if you need the battery and can live with double weight and thickness.
spexwood said:
I just got mine yesterday. The case it pretty nice, and I like it, but the thickness bothers me personally. It isn't too bad, but I like a slim phone, so I'm using this case as a portable charger.
Here are some details:
PROS
Convenient
Can use phone freely while charging
LED on back that tells case's approximate charge level
VERY easy to take off or put on
Case is very solid. I haven't attempted to drop my phone, but the case will definitely do some protection.
Redirects the speaker to a front facing one with little loss in quality.
NFC still works, unlike many of the larger batteries with custom back plates. I tested NFC with the case on and it worked perfectly fine.
CONS
Just about doubles the weight and thickness of the phone
Case must be turned on to start charging
Once phone reaches 100% charge, the case turns off. Once it does, it seems that you can power it back on again and keep the phone at 100% for a few hours. It's just a tad bit annoying that you need to do this.
Same thing as above, except when unplugging the phone+case from a power source. You need to then power on the case.
Overall, OP, I suggest you getting one if you need the battery and can live with double weight and thickness.
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I genuinely appreciate you're feedback.
This seems like a well balanced unit. What is the standard charge time of the case itself?
I know the case doesn't allow data+power but just power. Does it have a passthru to charge the phone even if the case is on the phone itself?
You mention doubling the size, would this be with a case on it? Something like a normal tpu case then doubled? Or really just two phones?
The case is able to charge your phone how many tines?
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I genuinely appreciate you're feedback.
This seems like a well balanced unit. What is the standard charge time of the case itself?
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I cant give an exact time frame, but it's just slightly longer than charging the phone from 0-100%. The case also supports fast charge (according to the manufacturer on the Amazon page).
I know the case doesn't allow data+power but just power. Does it have a passthru to charge the phone even if the case is on the phone itself?
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Youre right in that the port only supports power. No pass through to charge just the phone and not the case. However, if you plug the phone+case in, the phone charges too, but I think it's technically charging from the case as the case charges from power.
You mention doubling the size, would this be with a case on it? Something like a normal tpu case then doubled? Or really just two phones?
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Two phones. MAYBE two phones if one of them had a slim TPU case on and the other didn't.
The case is able to charge your phone how many tines?
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Not sure about exact number of times as I don't use this case daily. I only use it as needed instead of swapping batteries or plugging in to a portable battery charger. The case is 5000mAh though, so it should charge the phone 1.5x (roughly). So with the case on and phone and case at 100% charge, you should have 250% battery (roughly again).
Sorry for some of the vague answers. Again, I don't use this case as a daily driver because I don't care for the thickness. I only use it if I'm going on a trip or the phone is being used a lot more than usual.
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HiddenKnight said:
I genuinely appreciate you're feedback.
I cant give an exact time frame, but it's just slightly longer than charging the phone from 0-100%. The case also supports fast charge (according to the manufacturer on the Amazon page).
Youre right in that the port only supports power. No pass through to charge just the phone and not the case. However, if you plug the phone+case in, the phone charges too, but I think it's technically charging from the case as the case charges from power.
Two phones. MAYBE two phones if one of them had a slim TPU case on and the other didn't.
Not sure about exact number of times as I don't use this case daily. I only use it as needed instead of swapping batteries or plugging in to a portable battery charger. The case is 5000mAh though, so it should charge the phone 1.5x (roughly). So with the case on and phone and case at 100% charge, you should have 250% battery (roughly again).
Sorry for some of the vague answers. Again, I don't use this case as a daily driver because I don't care for the thickness. I only use it if I'm going on a trip or the phone is being used a lot more than usual.
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All information, is good information. So I'm very content with this answer.
I really appreciate you time and the responses you had to write back with. Thank you.
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