can the et4g be a bootable iso for windows 7?
Doubt it. The phone won't recognize he sdcard with the an ISO written to it and I don't think you could mount it if the phone doesn't recognize it. And on top of that it might be difficult to get the BIOS to see it as a boot able device.
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No. Wrong and incompatible hardware on the computer side. The software for the phone was written and compiled specifically for this phone and it's associated hardware.
The way the question is worded makes no sense. You want the e4gt to be a bootable ISO? Whaaaa?
I no understandy
LordJummy said:
The way the question is worded makes no sense. You want the e4gt to be a bootable ISO? Whaaaa?
I no understandy
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Pretty sure hes asking if he can use his phone to install windows similar to placing the windows 7 installation ISO onto a usb drive.
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Pretty sure hes asking if he can use his phone to install windows similar to placing the windows 7 installation ISO onto a usb drive.
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And the answer to that is no, because if you made your sdcard a bootable disk for win7 there would be no way for the computer to read it from the phone without being mounted, and once you try mount the sdcard the phone will require it to be formatted otherwise it won't let you mount it as a storage device.
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If you can create the drivers for the software to work with the hardware, then go for it.
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And the answer to that is no, because if you made your sdcard a bootable disk for win7 there would be no way for the computer to read it from the phone without being mounted, and once you try mount the sdcard the phone will require it to be formatted otherwise it won't let you mount it as a storage device.
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You would be mounting the phone as a usb storage device. The microsd card would be formatted and flagged bootable. Modern motherboard support booting from flash drives... i dunno last 8 or more years now?
Windows 7 has a tool for making bootable flash drives. Micro SD cards can have the boot flag on their MBR's set to bootable. The question is does the E4GT (on GB) allow for MBR access in mass storage. I can actually check that since I have a program I wrote for injecting code past the MBR it needs to read it. The next question is how does the phone represent the storage to the computer? If its not in a valid manner then the answer goes back to no because the motherboard may not wish to boot from it.
Ive created Bootable SD cards to boot through an SD card reader to flash firmware to video cards, its not much different and with windows 7 being usb drive bootable using a utility its only a question of this particular phone.
are you asking if you can emulate android on windows 7?
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are you asking if you can emulate android on windows 7?
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He asked if it can be a bootable iso for windows 7. One word corrected I am pretty sure if he asked if he can use it as a bootable flash device for windows 7 installation.
Which as I explained in my post is plausible. Many phones can do it and doing it with a regular old sd card over a reader on a motherboard with usb boot support is 100% normal. Given the lack of mass storage mount in ICS I would definitely want to be on Gingerbread before I even tried it.
I have done this with my old psp once, had to restore a friends computer which had a dead dvd drive and no usb drive around so formatted the sony memory stick on the psp. High chances of it working I don't see why not.
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[SOLVED] : using dropbox now for file transfer...
After I installed the latest build of stock XDAndriod on my Rhodium, it does not connect to my PC (win-XP) using USB port. I have tried multiple times to reset my phone and re-flash my winmo with no help.
My computer does not detect a USB device at all when I connect my phone when in Android. When I plug in my phone, nothing happens. But my phone does begin charging from the USB port and does detect that is plugged in to a power source.
How do I get my PC to recognize my phone?
Phone details:
H/w : standard AT&T tilt2
Winmo : JackOS build Aug/19
XDAndroid version - [MJG]Rhod.2.2Froyo.083010.rar
Thanks,
Dhanvi
PS: I did check the thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641444&highlight=USB+problems and that hasn't solved my problem.
If you read the port status, USB data connections are not currently supported. Only charging is supported via USB.
Thanks for that pience of info, but I do not see anything saying USB on the project development page. Is there some other page that I should be looking at too?
If that is indeed the case, then how do I transfer stuff over from my PC to my SD card when in andriod ? Is there any other method?
Thanks.
kapiladhanvi said:
Thanks for that pience of info, but I do not see anything saying USB on the project development page. Is there some other page that I should be looking at too?
If that is indeed the case, then how do I transfer stuff over from my PC to my SD card when in andriod ? Is there any other method?
Thanks.
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Use dropbox. www.dropbox.com for you pc and download dropbox in the market.
Thanks for the tip!
Dhanvi
Great Idea but waiting for more help
Hey Fist post here about the xAndroid. I have to say this rocks!! First time I got it up I said to myself this is how a phone is supposed to run.
To the questions do any of you know if this USB connection is going to be fixed anytime soon sine I would really like to see if you can connect Google App Inventor to the phone while on this great mod.
Thanks
Lennyz1988 said:
Use dropbox. www.dropbox.com for you pc and download dropbox in the market.
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By far the simplest way to get it done.
I went for installing ADB and droid explorer on my pc. It works, but I have much less hair now.
with the current way xdandroid is built, I can't see it being probable that usb mode will ever work (could be wrong, so feel free to correct me).
i.e. currently we have a FAT partition on the SD card and we loopback mount files on it to act as the android system and data file systems, and the fat can then act as a normal SD card.
because of this, it can't expose the FAT partition to anyone outside of the OS instance (i.e. 2 OS's will be writing to the FAT table (redundant I know) independently and can clobber each other.
On the other hand, I think the way the cyanogenmod port works, by partitioning the SD card into multiple partitions to hold the different sets of data (though not sure it takes it all the way), is an approach that could be made to work for usb access, if separate partitions would be made for the system and data file systems on the SD card and a third partition just used for the FAT FS. This way, android can unmount the FAT partition only (nothing else depending on it) and let it be accessed by whatever machine the device is attached to over usb.
there's a reason its not done this way currently as its much harder to manage and continuously update.
just my 2 cents.
Hm, does this also mean, you can not use tools like MyPhoneExplorer (Outlloksync via UBS with Android phones) due to absence of data over USB? Seems like a decent app, but it does not see my TYTN over USB, says no conenction. I also note, Windows XP is trying to install an 'Android Phone' driver when I connect the TYTN to the Laptop. Is this all somehow related?
Oddly, my phone decides to turn on USB after it's been sitting plugged in for a time, which exceeds an hour. It's like it checks for USB connectivity at some long interval.
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with the current way xdandroid is built, I can't see it being probable that usb mode will ever work (could be wrong, so feel free to correct me).
i.e. currently we have a FAT partition on the SD card and we loopback mount files on it to act as the android system and data file systems, and the fat can then act as a normal SD card.
because of this, it can't expose the FAT partition to anyone outside of the OS instance (i.e. 2 OS's will be writing to the FAT table (redundant I know) independently and can clobber each other..
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With Android on my wife's HD2 (booting from Windows via Haret.exe) USB mass storage mode works fine, so it's definitely doable.
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With Android on my wife's HD2 (booting from Windows via Haret.exe) USB mass storage mode works fine, so it's definitely doable.
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No clue how - when you're in WinMo, what happens when you plug in your phone and select to use it as a disk drive? It unmounts the SD in WinMo and mounts it on your PC. Same thing would happen in Android, but when the card can't be unmounted - as Android is running off of it.
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No clue how - when you're in WinMo, what happens when you plug in your phone and select to use it as a disk drive? It unmounts the SD in WinMo and mounts it on your PC. Same thing would happen in Android, but when the card can't be unmounted - as Android is running off of it.
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Well I have no idea how it works. I just know that it works.
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Well I have no idea how it works. I just know that it works.
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I've been told it's flaky on the HD2 and not recommended for use anyways. Still not sure how it works tho.
We won't have true SD card access (USB mass storage) until Android is flashed onto our devices. Until then, true USB mass storage will NOT work.
In the meantime, there's ADB. Perhaps the HD2 guys hacked something up based on ADB, who knows.
a friend of mine wants me to rescue his netbook, but i need to create a bootable USB drive to re-install windows because he doesn't have an external disk drive.
i need 4gb minimum, but i've only got an actual 2gb flash drive.
thing is, i've got a 4gb microSD card in the desire.
if i backed up the entire contents of the card, and then stuck it in a USB card reader, essentially making it a 4gb USB stick, could i then put it back into the desire and restore the backup ?
would it cause any untoward problems ?
obviously i have no intentions of re-flashing or anything, but i just need to find a way of getting 4gb's of space for the installation.
cheers
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a friend of mine wants me to rescue his netbook, but i need to create a bootable USB drive to re-install windows because he doesn't have an external disk drive.
i need 4gb minimum, but i've only got an actual 2gb flash drive.
thing is, i've got a 4gb microSD card in the desire.
if i backed up the entire contents of the card, and then stuck it in a USB card reader, essentially making it a 4gb USB stick, could i then put it back into the desire and restore the backup ?
would it cause any untoward problems ?
obviously i have no intentions of re-flashing or anything, but i just need to find a way of getting 4gb's of space for the installation.
cheers
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I didn't see why it shouldn't work. It will work.
Cheers. Problem i've now got though is that I need a micro sd adapter which I don't have. So i'm kind of wondering if I could mount the phone as a usb device in clockwork mod and essentially make that the bootable usb device?
Obviously I would (I assume) need to keep the update.zip file on it so I could at least flash it back to recovery and restore everything.
Would that cause a problem? Or is the functionality of the phone not kept on the sd card?
That would work you could turn the phone on and mount it as usb storage.
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A 2gb flash drive will be more than anot to install Windows xp from
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A 2gb flash drive will be more than anot to install Windows xp from
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windows xp, yes but not 7. i want to try 7 first, but if that doesn't work then i'll use the 2gb stick to try XP
Get the windows 7 lite it has been cut down for notebooks
It can be found on most download sites
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Get the windows 7 lite it has been cut down for notebooks
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Thankyou for that - that's exactly what I did and everything is installed and works fine. i found out the notebook is for work purposes as well, so he can probably claim back the cost of actually making it all legal as well, so it's all good.
I keep a bootable Ubuntu flash drive around just for certain occasions like this. Runs Ubuntu right off the flash disk and let's you do what you need to do if you're in a pinch. Of course, this won't install Windows, but for emergencies it can be a lifesaver. Imagine if you were overseas and your hard drive or Windows crashes and won't boot. It'd be indispensable.
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I keep a copy of backtrack 3 on a boot pen drive you never know when you need to hack a wep key lol
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hankhandsome said:
Thankyou for that - that's exactly what I did and everything is installed and works fine. i found out the notebook is for work purposes as well, so he can probably claim back the cost of actually making it all legal as well, so it's all good.
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You can pick up. C. O. As cheap from ebay
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I am not sure the correct section to put this into, but here goes.
I have heard ways to install Windows from a USB stick. I was wondering since I do not have a USB stick big enough and also a blank DVD on hand if I could place the image onto my Android SD card and install/reformat my computer that way.
Thanks!
PS. Please move to correct section if need be.
I don't think you could because the computer hardware doesn't recognize the sd card as a mass storage device, the software does, if you get what I mean.
I don't think it's possible to write a Windows live disk to the SD card and use it to format the Windows installation.
This in theory could be done. The one issue you might have is your computer might not recognize the SD card as a bootable option. If you can boot to USB device it might work. Also it isn't as simple as copying a windows install disk to the USB there is work that needs to be done to get it to read correctly and install. If you google linux pen drive I think it has a option to copy the windows cd to the drive boot to linux and install windows.
Yes you can do it. Sd card readers are on a usb connection to the motherboard of a pc. You have to make the sd card a bootable disk though the same way you would for a flash drive.
Never done it with the epic but I used to run puppy linux off my winmo samsung blackjack 2 on a thin client wyse computer. It had a micro sd card in it too. You would need to use a linux distro to be able to properly create a windows installation on another form of media though. Good luck
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So I got a great deal on a class 10 32GB Samsung card, it came pre-formatted to fat32, however I had the wild idea that android supported NTFS based on something I read in the past so I formatted it to NTFS on a windows system and copied some files over (some being over 5GB each)...plugged in my card and turned on my phone and I get a message saying my card is blank or the wrong file format...guess it doesn't support NTFS
I know if I use the phones built in format utility it will format to fat32 which I don't really want because of the filesize limitation, I'd like to be able to copy 8-10GB files every so often so I can use my phone as a little shuttle drive in between places...
But I also want the ability for windows to be able to read my sd card if I change my phone into USB mode so I think that excludes the ext3, ext4 format which I think android will read...
Any ideas?
Won't happen search and you will find threads on this before
You will also find a Q&A section that this belongs in
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There's an app in the market that will mount any file formatted sdcard in the device I but I haven't used it out remember the name but you can check it and yes this belongs in Q&A but The way you format is fat 32
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Got that Newegg deal as well! Can't wait for it to arrive. Interested in the answer as well as I hope to put some high quality movies there.
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So I found an ntfs app in the market that'll mount ntfs at startup but I gotta root for it work. Guess I now have a reason to root
Oh but it says it was made for the galaxy tab...but it opens fine on my s ii
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btw where is the Q&A section i should be looking for? xda has gotten so huge i'm lost at least i can find the e4gt forum
maybe i should change the title of my thread to what filesystems can i format my sd card to that my phone will read?
if you use windows, fat32 is the way to go so then you can connect the phone to computer and still can access the files
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btw where is the Q&A section i should be looking for? xda has gotten so huge i'm lost at least i can find the e4gt forum
maybe i should change the title of my thread to what filesystems can i format my sd card to that my phone will read?
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There is a Q&A section right under general in the epic touch
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charles98 said:
if you use windows, fat32 is the way to go so then you can connect the phone to computer and still can access the files
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The reason the op doesn't want fat32 is because he has single files that exceeds 4 GB that he wants to transfer, so fat32 would not work for him.
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The reason the op doesn't want fat32 is because he has single files that exceeds 4 GB that he wants to transfer, so fat32 would not work for him.
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maybe drive mount in market but lots of bad reviews....May work don't know
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Windows also recognized NTFS by the way.
out of curiosity, does anyone know if any custom roms support ntfs sd cards nativey?
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out of curiosity, does anyone know if any custom roms support ntfs sd cards nativey?
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None because Android does not.....
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format it ext3/4 and then install an ftp server app on your phone.
There is an app that works fine
I have exactly the same problem. I want to have the sdcard in NTFS so then I do not have the 4GB limitation of FAT32. The is possible to have .mkv files on your phone or tablet.
In the case of my table the N8010, I have formatted the sd card on Windows with NTFS. Then installed the "paragon" app from market which works very good. It recognized the sd card in NTFS and mount perfectly. But it seems that when your card is overloaded with thounsands of files and some big 6GB file, then comes the problem. Android JB everytime that comes out of sleep, it will check for errors the sd card. Everytime! Then, I get the message "sd card checking for errors" and never gets back. The sd card is not recognized anymore until I reboot the device.
I think that the paragon app is not perfect and might have bugs, but
Is there any way to disable the "sd card check for error" functionality? Have read some threads about it, to delete some file from system, but that method produces inconsistencies with other apps.
By the way, I have tried to format on ExFat, and had the same problem. When the card is almost full it will never end up checking for errors. I finally broke the sd card when I formated it with ExFat and 64k allocation size. It was not regoznized neither by windows and android afterwards
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By the way, I have tried to format on ExFat, and had the same problem. When the card is almost full it will never end up checking for errors. I finally broke the sd card when I formated it with ExFat and 64k allocation size. It was not regoznized neither by windows and android afterwards
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I don't think you broke it unless you fried the flash chips. You can try using the disk manager in windows and try to see if it sees it. Or just learn how to use Linux command line tools and fix it that way. I recovered 80% of my pictures off of a dead SD card using dd and a file recovery utility. I don't recall which one. That 16GB SD card now works just fine as a 12GB card. I don't trust it for any more than shuttling between systems though.
Also, I've never had good luck with exFAT. I much prefer the EXT filesystems, but they aren't natively supported in windows or most cameras. Maybe try NTFS without journaling (If that's even possible)
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exfat is proprietary windows and needs licenses. android won't support it.
ntfs is a journaling file system and will impact performance if you can get android to read it.
ext2/3 is the best solution. there are utilities you can install so windows can read it.
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exfat is proprietary windows and needs licenses. android won't support it.
ntfs is a journaling file system and will impact performance if you can get android to read it.
ext2/3 is the best solution. there are utilities you can install so windows can read it.
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Ext2Fsd is excellent for Windows 7, I don't know what I'd do without it.
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I cant seem to find an option to use the Galaxy S4 as USB mass storage, only media device (MTP) or Camera (PTP) is available. Cannot find any USB options in the settings either.
How am I able to copy files from and to my SD card and/or phone HD?
I appreciate any helpful posts. Thank you!
crco said:
I cant seem to find an option to use the Galaxy S4 as USB mass storage, only media device (MTP) or Camera (PTP) is available. Cannot find any USB options in the settings either.
How am I able to copy files from and to my SD card and/or phone HD?
I appreciate any helpful posts. Thank you!
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You us MTP fyi usb mass storage has been gone for a while i know for a fact the gs3 & note2 used MTP
deeznutz1977 said:
You us MTP fyi usb mass storage has been gone for a while i know for a fact the gs3 & note2 used MTP
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with MTP my device doesnt show up in Mac, as well as my Sony TV or LG receiver. what to do?
Is there anyway to disable MTP and go back to mass storage? Also, is the SDCARD MTP as well?
Mass Storage is gone for good... and while it sounds bad, there's a good reason..
Using Mass Storage forces the storage partition (or external sdcard) to be unmounted by Android, so any data/apps/widgets on there are no longer available until you disconnect your device from your PC. Using MTP allows the data partition to remain mounted and available concurrently on both your device, and on your PC via USB.
1) No, you cannot get UMS back.
2) This belongs in Q&A.
3) For Macs, you will need this.
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The auto-unmount is ok...
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Mass Storage is gone for good... and while it sounds bad, there's a good reason..
Using Mass Storage forces the storage partition (or external sdcard) to be unmounted by Android, so any data/apps/widgets on there are no longer available until you disconnect your device from your PC. Using MTP allows the data partition to remain mounted and available concurrently on both your device, and on your PC via USB.
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"there's a good reason" is somewhat subjective. To me the great benefit to the more general usb mass storage option is so you can connect the phone to any device as if it were a usb flash drive. No driver issues, no worries about camera or MTP mode, no Mac issues, no linux issues, no Windows issues ... it's just a usd flash drive and can be treated as such. I am ok with the side affect of auto-unmounting the sdcard from Android when I connect the phone to another device to use as noted USB drive.
Is there in fact any way this will ever come back?
I can't get my phone to show up on my computer for nothing.have the correct drivers installed and everything.running Windows
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"there's a good reason" is somewhat subjective. To me the great benefit to the more general usb mass storage option is so you can connect the phone to any device as if it were a usb flash drive. No driver issues, no worries about camera or MTP mode, no Mac issues, no linux issues, no Windows issues ... it's just a usd flash drive and can be treated as such. I am ok with the side affect of auto-unmounting the sdcard from Android when I connect the phone to another device to use as noted USB drive.
Is there in fact any way this will ever come back?
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There was an app someone made for the GS3 that did some filesystem trickery to expose the storage as UMS (needed root). I'm sure something like that will come around that works on the GS4 too.
I had the same issue until I installed Kies, no issues after that
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I can't get my phone to show up on my computer for nothing.have the correct drivers installed and everything.running Windows
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umlguy said:
"there's a good reason" is somewhat subjective. To me the great benefit to the more general usb mass storage option is so you can connect the phone to any device as if it were a usb flash drive. No driver issues, no worries about camera or MTP mode, no Mac issues, no linux issues, no Windows issues ... it's just a usd flash drive and can be treated as such. I am ok with the side affect of auto-unmounting the sdcard from Android when I connect the phone to another device to use as noted USB drive.
Is there in fact any way this will ever come back?
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How could anyone possibly know if it will come back, especially "in fact?" My guess is you would have to ask Samsung that question to get anything other than a guess or an opinion (which would be NO) but it's not "in fact" just "in an opinion."
I jumped from an S2 to the S4 and was also annoyed that USB mass storage wouldn't work either. Since I use Linux as my desktop, MTP is not an option "out-of-the-box". I therefor turned to an awesome app (that I heard about on this site!), Airdroid. Now I was able to quickly get an album/picture/book datastore onto a shiny new 32GB microSD! And yes, I know I could have put the microSD into a slot on my laptop, etc., but I shouldn't have to, just because I choose to use Linux!
I mean, its rather ironic not to be able to use Linux to connect to Linux (android), don't you think? If I'm completely wrong about this, please someone point me to the right path.
Thanks
There is a "hack" to allow the external to be read as UMS. Also, the internal sdcard is no longer yaffs2 its ext4 and only linux knows ext4. So if you were to use UMS, only a linux computer would "see" the sd card and nothing else.
elesbb said:
There is a "hack" to allow the external to be read as UMS. Also, the internal sdcard is no longer yaffs2 its ext4 and only linux knows ext4. So if you were to use UMS, only a linux computer would "see" the sd card and nothing else.
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elesbb,
That's awesome news! Thanks for the tip. I use opensuse (currently 12.3) with kde, will definitely make the necessary tweaks to get this going in dolphin.
Thanks again!
Ignore. Posted in wrong thread.
If you are rooted and busybox installed yes there are lot of apps on play store that can convert your externel SD Card to Mass storage.