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ATT to Spring, Infuse 4g to Epic 4g Touch

I will start off by saying I LOVE my Infuse 4g. The screen is large a beautiful and the battery life is pretty good for a smartphone.
I have been with AT&T since... 2001, when they were ATT the first time lol.
I really don't have any major complaints, my service in Maine is great with AT&T and overall they have treated me good. I am still grandfathered in the unlimited data so that is not a factor for me. After taxes I pay $96 for 1 line, 450 anytime, unlimited mobile to any network mobile, unlimited data and text, so looking at Sprints plans I wouldn't be saving much, maybe nothing after taxes?
That said, I am considering switching. My reasons are probably silly, but, their are 2.
Where there is perfect service for both, I think Sprint 3g is faster? There is 0 "4g ATT" or 4g Sprint in Maine, so for the moment I am really talking 3g vs 3g.
The second is I want an S2, but I honestly don't want to go back to a 4.3". I know a lot of people don't think .2 inches is a big deal, but it was a huge difference for me (I went from the Inspire 4.3 to the Infuse 4.5).
Looking for general thoughts and opinions, blunt and honest is fine, and feel free to call me stupid.
I am not really a heavy data user so to speak. I stream music constantly in my car, that is most of my data usage. Occasionally browsing on the go, and rarely tethering.

ATT 3G is likely faster than Sprints 3G... Maybe even a lot faster. Also, sprints 4G doesn't go through walls or windows very well... Wind often screws it up.
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I just switched from an Infuse 4G to the Epic 4G Touch. I'm in the Chicago area and had no issues with AT&T's network. I too, wanted the 4.5" display, and have no regrets. This phone isn't a major step upward, but you can definetely feel the improved speed and smoothness over the Infuse.

Sprints 4G is nothing worth switching for. Cancel that as one of your reasons. The 6-8mb down is a stretch. I average 3-4 on downloads. I'm in Orlando, where the whole city is covered pretty well. Even calling it 4G is a joke. In my opinion, it seems like Verizon is the only carrier actually pushing anything resembling 4G, I've seen downs of 16mb.

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Sprints 4G is nothing worth switching for. Cancel that as one of your reasons. The 6-8mb down is a stretch. I average 3-4 on downloads. I'm in Orlando, where the whole city is covered pretty well. Even calling it 4G is a joke. In my opinion, it seems like Verizon is the only carrier actually pushing anything resembling 4G, I've seen downs of 16mb.
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You seem to have responded before reading my whole post .
I am not considering 4g, Maine has no Sprint 4g or ATT "4g".
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Does music stream well over Sprint 3g? I use Google Music as my primary source of music in my car.

crawlgsx said:
You seem to have responded before reading my whole post .
I am not considering 4g, Maine has no Sprint 4g or ATT "4g".
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Does music stream well over Sprint 3g? I use Google Music as my primary source of music in my car.
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I have had no problem streaming Google music. I live in Virginia and have no 4G also and I have no problems streaming it.
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I've been carrying an Epic 4g for personal use and a Captivate for work for the better part of this year. In my case for 3g AT&T was faster, Sprint's 4g is basically worthless. With the i9000 modem on my CM7 Captivate I get as good of speeds as I did on Sprint's 4g. AT&T always had more coverage for the places I went. I dropped Sprint last week and now only use AT&T. Sprint sucks and is getting worse. I also prefer GSM technology because I can stay on a phone call and have data simultaneously. If you're lucky enough to get stable 4g you can do that on Sprint, but you'd have better odds hitting the lotto.

Sprint's LTE to pull even faster speeds than VZW's network.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756

Keep in mind that that is with a completely unloaded tower...
Sprint only has 10 mhz of spare spectrum in the PCS band, so before Clearwire or Lightsquared (if it gets FCC approval) roll out LTE, or Sprint decommissions the iDEN network, everyone will be using this small slice of spectrum. That means that each cell will be limited to a maximum of 40-60 mbps for all users to share.
Verizon uses at least 20 mhz of spectrum in all of its LTE coverage areas, so I don't think it's likely that Sprint's LTE will be able to outperform VZW's in its first year.

I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.

I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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JSarella said:
I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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I AGREE...but the good thing is more bandwidth should mean less server/network traffic which is good for the end users and should mean faster overall speeds

mattykinsx said:
I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.
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Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.

brownhornet said:
Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.
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Lmfao.
Completely full of ****.
Never seen anyone talk about anywhere close to those speeds, even when LTE for Verizon was just released
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405

I ran a speedtest against a verizon customer inside Fry's electronics in Roseville, CA and the guy's phone hit 29mbps consistently. It doesnt sound TOO unrealistic to me.
Edit: I can't remember if he was using a thunderbolt or bionic at the time but regardless he destroyed me lol
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Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

sfhub said:
Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
I heard from a friend his RAZR was netting 20/15 at best which beats the hell out of the 1.4 upload im getting now which would be the only complaint. Seems like the average users upload is a bit slower around 2-5 but still an improvement.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756
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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?

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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?
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There was a thread on it already, so I edited the OP. I was hoping this thread would die. lol

Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Why would anyone read?
Its Sprint, everything they do is wrong and a lie.

I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.

Jayavarman said:
I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.
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+1
I have a thunderbolt, its data connection is extremely fast, but I use my phones consistently throughout the day, and this means that I hit the 2GB limit within 3 weeks.
This is just regular use, If I were to steam on spotify, or last.fm or anything else, I'd be screwed within a week or two.

RainMotorsports said:
Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
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The Sprint "test" was said to be dedicated Huawei modem also so it is one-to-one comparison.
BTW the Verizon test was supposedly done in *NYC*, not NC.

androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Can you post a link?
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Okay....how long have I been saying this now? Seriously wise up people and start listening to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0Drfu7QYM

Verizon, T-mobile or AT&T

Hi all, I have a 2 year contract with Sprint, but I just cant take it anymore, I am planning on cancelling my contract and sign with another company, but I am not sure which one is the best (or less bad) for me in NYC.
Can anyone recommend one with good reception and real data (not the 30kbps 3G sprint has)
Thanks.

In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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gtuansdiamm said:
In NYC i get 2mbps on where ever the subway is above ground
1.5mbls when ever I'm outside
1mbps ish in building
All on 3g
But i would go use Verizon
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I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....

I am starting to think that my phone is broken, because on cloudy days I dont get reception inside buidings, I serious, I am having a bad experience with sprint
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Been hearing that we should be getting lte soon in NYC, but even then that is probably gonna be spotty at best...I had T-Mobile for a long time and never had any issues speed wise, and its fairly cheap, do some research on their new unlimited plan if you can't wait.
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30Glock said:
I get 2.5 mbps in NYC but that is at 3 am. other wise i get between 1-2 mbps. I am also fed up. TMO has a new unlimited no throttle for about 80 per month..My co-worker speed on tmo is 10-14 mbps....
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Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.

hayzooos said:
Isn't slightly over 2mbps the max for 3G speeds? If you're getting consistently over 1, I wouldn't complain. There are plenty of people elsewhere getting a fraction of that...like 10% of that.
I'd be thrilled with consistent 1-1.5mbps 3G speeds. I'm around Chicago, so LTE is in a few places which is nice, but I'm excited about when they finally upgrade the backhaul for 3G so the speeds will be better.
As for the OP, I would also try changing modems as well, see if some of them work better. Check with other NYC people and see what they're using. Modem can have a HUGE impact on speeds.
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Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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Mark's ollars
Having tried Att and Sprint....I got pretty $hitty coverage with both and this was living in the Bay Area.
For my previouscontract, I selected ATT based on reading the online reviews about them having absolute the fastest service. What the reviews didnt mention was that I couldnt get ATT service 10% of the time which got annoying real fast.
When it works...ATT and Sprint work great....but the 10% of the time you don't get connection, you'll wish you went with Verizon. They might be a tad slower based on the bandwidth test results online...but at least the coverage is more consistent

I will try changing modems, and see if I can get a better reception, thanks.

diazf09 said:
Usually here that from sprint users. Some seem to conform. Others like me who tried sprint realize that's not the 3G full potential.
So I rather pay less for tmobile And get awesome speeds. IMHO
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I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?

hayzooos said:
I don't mean Sprint 3G, I mean the technology limitations themselves. Even if I hop onto Verizon's network with a 3G PRL, I don't ever remember seeing anything over 2mpbs. I have plenty of friends and co-workers who have Verizon and I've never seen anything over that on any of their phones either.
Is it more of a CDMA/GSM 3G thing? Is GSM 3G faster than what you could get on a CDMA network?
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Gsm carriers use a backhauled network capable of much faster speeds ....at least on speedtests
Sprint is implementing backhaul tech over the next year or so.
On 3g (hspa+) I have seen as much as 12mbps down but average 3-5 . This is on our att phones.
Funny thing is though side by side we did some comparisons last year and web pages actually loaded slower on attempt s2 vs sprint s2 .. we never really found an explanation.
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Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.

88EVGAFTW said:
Have you considered forcing the phone to roam and having Sprint cancel your contract due to that? They shouldn't charge a ETF for that either.
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Great way to get out of this miserable non existing service.. In NYC I can get between 1-3 mbps, this is acceptable to me, however where I live sprint is unusable 12kb D/L up does not exist. I called to complain and their attitude was pay the 350 ETF and you can leave.....Well I'm leaving w/o paying this fee..Thank you Roam Control....

Put a post on the marketplace offering to let another user assume responsibility for the contract. I know i would have considered a cheap s3 that way earlier
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Sprint is actually getting better. With the softbank deal, Sprint controls a majority of the lte footprint. They are also getting an $8 billion cash infusion that will help them finish building out their lte footprint faster and at a higher quality. I know a few people that work for Sprint corporate. They have big plans and are actually executing those plans
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Will they be bringing service to places that do not have it (is western Washington)
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Personally i would toughen it out good things are to come for those who wait
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I'm near Baltimore and over the past 11 years have had Verizon, ATT, T-mo, and Sprint. Each provider had pros and cons. I eventually stuck with Sprint (6 years now). They are the most reliable and ever present. Not the fastest but the only time I've been without service is in the Shenandoah mountains south of us where there is no service coverage by anyone. Sprint has addressed every problem I've ever had as long as I was patient with the rep. Oh wait I was patient with the reps from every provider and they bent over backwards to help me. A Sprint rep have my wife an iPhone for $25 during her last upgrade. We presented then with a problem on our bill and they hooked us up with the phone and fixed the bill.
I don't think any service provider is going to be perfect in all situations. I myself would pick reliable over fastest speed.
Just my opinion but stick it out things are changing with Sprint.
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Data service improve

Check your area to see if sprint have upgraded your data speed
https://network.sprint.com/

K.0.0.L. said:
Check your area to see if sprint have upgraded your data speed
https://network.sprint.com/
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I've been following it for a bit, sadly, after 6 months of improvements, my service got worse. They upgrade towers, add more customers who use more data = no improvement at all.

air2k57 said:
I've been following it for a bit, sadly, after 6 months of improvements, my service got worse. They upgrade towers, add more customers who use more data = no improvement at all.
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That site isn't going to tell you anything about network vision upgrades that are rolling out, the upgrades the will truly make a difference. If you want information on these upgrade I suggest you head over to the s4gru.com forums.
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My service has gotten somewhat better but it's only somewhat decent at 1am to 5 am lol. Kinda useless.

I'm surrounded by 3 towers (all within 5 to 10 miles) and still after the last round of "data enhancements" I average 300kb download on 3g. Closest LTE tower is about 17 miles away :\

Mine shows all kinds of improvements over the last several months. My 3g is as bad or worse that it has been since the 'upgrades'. 45kbps down is marginally faster than the first modem I owned some 12 odd years ago. Good thing I have unlimited data...One day they'll finish their LTE rollout in the podunk midwest towns and bring it to my area. One day...
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bl4ckllama said:
I'm surrounded by 3 towers (all within 5 to 10 miles) and still after the last round of "data enhancements" I average 300kb download on 3g. Closest LTE tower is about 17 miles away :\
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If I got 300k I wouldn't complain...

I have lte and its great except their coverage isn't that great and when I drop down to 3g I get horrible speeds not even close to 1mb. Yet sprint says network vision is complete in my area. I call bull

I use sensorly from the app store. So far the maps are accurate in the NYC area. I can literally see the coverage updates as they go live. Im not pushing the app but its the only thing I can rely on anymore with the slow roll out of the LTE.

JerseySprint said:
I use sensorly from the app store. So far the maps are accurate in the NYC area. I can literally see the coverage updates as they go live. Im not pushing the app but its the only thing I can rely on anymore with the slow roll out of the LTE.
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+1 on Sensorly app. Sprint 3G in my area runs between poor speed to unusable. No LTE here yet either.

It's funny that I see this post. I just did a speed test from downtown Chicago and got 36mbps(!). I then decided to browse the forums and I see this.
Yes my speeds have upgraded.
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LTE in nyc

Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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The answer is the same anywhere... When they get damn good and ready!

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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Do you really think we need mroe threads like this, mods please close, people should get infractions for this crap

It may be far away as I started to spot LTE in couple of areas with Sony Xperia Ion.

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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jghidalgo307 said:
Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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I agree!

ionic7 said:
Do you really think we need mroe threads like this, mods please close, people should get infractions for this crap
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Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.

Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.[/QUOTE]
Actually in queens too loll and to be exact I get those numbers constantly near LGCC. I work in lower Manhattan and experience the same speed. Have you played with your modem?
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Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.
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in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte

Launching on 11/17/13 in nyc. Target date tentative subject to change
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bones718 said:
in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte
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As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"

Meanee said:
As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"
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They won't feel isolated amongst the likes of Verizon
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Meanee said:
As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"
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as multiplayer online gaming on our handsets will get more advanced, gameplay could use the lte connection. i was never a phone gamer, but nowadays i see myself gaming alot. waiting for more real time multiplayer shooters and racers to come out.

bones718 said:
in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte
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2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
thanks.

bones718 said:
as multiplayer online gaming on our handsets will get more advanced, gameplay could use the lte connection. i was never a phone gamer, but nowadays i see myself gaming alot. waiting for more real time multiplayer shooters and racers to come out.
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I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.

milan03 said:
2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
thanks.
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typo. between 2 to 4

milan03 said:
2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
thanks.
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Well, most of my upload speedtests are in mid 2000 range. Highest one was 3040kbps. According to a quick search, HSPA+ max upload is around 5.7mbps

Meanee said:
I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.
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not required, but latency would probably be better.

Meanee said:
I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.
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Speed isn't that important for most games. What does matter is latency, which is significantly lower on LTE, apparently.

ttabbal said:
Speed isn't that important for most games. What does matter is latency, which is significantly lower on LTE, apparently.
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Most of my speedtest pings are between 20 and 30ms. In comparison, business cable connection ping to 8.8.8.8 in the office has an average of 35ms. My home FiOS connection gets me 20-25.