When testing nfc my phone must actually touch my credit card to register the tag.
Even then it sometimes will take a few seconds or require me to move up and down the card to register.
Is this normal or is my antenna weak? Been having trouble at stores with using Google wallet lately also.
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When testing nfc my phone must actually touch my credit card to register the tag.
Even then it sometimes will take a few seconds or require me to move up and down the card to register.
Is this normal or is my antenna weak? Been having trouble at stores with using Google wallet lately also.
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Even with a fairly thick case on my phone, Google wallet works for me on the first try every time, but I always touch the pay pass pad with my phone. I use it daily at gas pumps and vending machines at my college and I switch out between 5 different cases on a daily basis.
Do you have another battery you can try? I've never tested my standard battery. I use the extended with my VZ CDMA Nexus.
I'm using extended GSM battery (OEM). It was about the same on the standard battery.
Sdobron said:
When testing nfc my phone must actually touch my credit card to register the tag.
Even then it sometimes will take a few seconds or require me to move up and down the card to register.
Is this normal or is my antenna weak? Been having trouble at stores with using Google wallet lately also.
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It is not normal. My first gnex had this issue. My second does not. You still have to touch, but not find the 'sweet spot'.
It isn't the antenna in the battery either. I tried switching batteries with the same issue.
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Tmobile G2. Started losing network every so often. Would need to reboot or sometimes switching to airplane mode and back would work. Then it just wouldnt work at all. Went to Tmobile store and they gave me a new SIM card. Tried that, and still no luck. SIM works fine in other phones.
I tried multiple cards, and they seem to work fine so long as I apply heavy pressure to (push down on) the card while using the phone. If I let go, the network drops within seconds. Must be the SIM slot itself..
Anyone ever replace the slot on a G2? I think it's soldered directly to the board, but I havent taken it apart yet. Hopefully it's just a few points that I can easily remove. Where can I get a replacement though? Anyone know parts that have matching solder poins?
yeah its soldered to the motherboard and unless you are amazing at soldering it will be tough, to top it off I've never seen one on ebay or amazon so you'll have to dig for one
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Tmobile G2. Started losing network every so often. Would need to reboot or sometimes switching to airplane mode and back would work. Then it just wouldnt work at all. Went to Tmobile store and they gave me a new SIM card. Tried that, and still no luck. SIM works fine in other phones.
I tried multiple cards, and they seem to work fine so long as I apply heavy pressure to (push down on) the card while using the phone. If I let go, the network drops within seconds. Must be the SIM slot itself..
Anyone ever replace the slot on a G2? I think it's soldered directly to the board, but I havent taken it apart yet. Hopefully it's just a few points that I can easily remove. Where can I get a replacement though? Anyone know parts that have matching solder poins?
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I've been looking for the part too, had some luck just resoldering the old one, twice(!).
CAREFUL if you do this. AND DON'T push on the sim slot. This will wreck/crack the traces for the solder for the SIM holder itself. The holder is soldered to the surface of the MoBo. Mine (mobo) got damged on the second solder operation, some traces came off of the board. There is a place I found that will repair it for you for 89bux, but seems pricey to me.
http://www.repairlabs.com/htc-desire-z-sim-card-tray.html
looks like compatible sim holder
FYI
http://www.parts4repair.com/samsung-galaxy-note-sim-connector/
I'm going to order it (only 1 buk) and give it a whirl. Will post results.
what was the result?
I have a 3500mAh extended battery that I bought off Amazon. I forgot the brand name lol but I don't think it matters. Problem is that my NFC chip has stopped working with this battery. I tried using Google wallet at a vending machine that it always used to work, and now it just sits there and shows the wave graphic as it's loading, and never competes the connection.
I'm not sure if I damaged the antenna somehow or if it's possible that the antenna is now dead, because it used to work a couple of days ago and now, nothing. I haven't tried using android beam with another phone yet, or testing it with the stock battery as I'm not home (I'll try those later) but any thoughts are welcome.
jdcnosse said:
I have a 3500mAh extended battery that I bought off Amazon. I forgot the brand name lol but I don't think it matters. Problem is that my NFC chip has stopped working with this battery. I tried using Google wallet at a vending machine that it always used to work, and now it just sits there and shows the wave graphic as it's loading, and never competes the connection.
I'm not sure if I damaged the antenna somehow or if it's possible that the antenna is now dead, because it used to work a couple of days ago and now, nothing. I haven't tried using android beam with another phone yet, or testing it with the stock battery as I'm not home (I'll try those later) but any thoughts are welcome.
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does the battery say it has NFC? if not, it will never work
the antenna is in the batteries and without that, NFC will never work.
jdcnosse said:
I have a 3500mAh extended battery that I bought off Amazon. I forgot the brand name lol but I don't think it matters. Problem is that my NFC chip has stopped working with this battery. I tried using Google wallet at a vending machine that it always used to work, and now it just sits there and shows the wave graphic as it's loading, and never competes the connection.
I'm not sure if I damaged the antenna somehow or if it's possible that the antenna is now dead, because it used to work a couple of days ago and now, nothing. I haven't tried using android beam with another phone yet, or testing it with the stock battery as I'm not home (I'll try those later) but any thoughts are welcome.
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Funny, mine started doing that after the latest update. It took the .53 left on my google card ok, but I can't get it to charge any of my cards. And I thought it was just me but maybe not.
Zepius said:
does the battery say it has NFC? if not, it will never work
the antenna is in the batteries and without that, NFC will never work.
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I'm pretty sure the battery has NFC. The amazon listing said it did, and it was actually working until a couple days ago (probably the latest update)
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Just tested it with my girlfriends GSII, and I can easily send links, youtube videos, maps etc through NFC/Android beam both from my phone and to my phone. So my guess is it's Google Wallet.
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i have a simple question (i think).
what is the maximal distance to a NFC reader device to get the signal ?
thanks.
dimshik100dev said:
i have a simple question (i think).
what is the maximal distance to a NFC reader device to get the signal ?
thanks.
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I've heard that it's round 4 in but I highly doubt that. I've only ever been able to get it to work by actually touching the devices together.
bubbalv29 said:
I've heard that it's round 4 in but I highly doubt that. I've only ever been able to get it to work by actually touching the devices together.
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unfortunately i was able to get the signal only buy touching too.
It would depend on the reader, Ive had something work from a good 10cm away
dimshik100dev said:
unfortunately i was able to get the signal only buy touching too.
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The NFC chip in an Android phone is usually in the battery right? I would think that they would make them low power and compact, as to get as much space out of the battery as they can, which would mean that unfortunately, they would have a shorter than average range, right?
It seems counter productive to put such an important chip in the battery, but according to Samsung it is located in the battery and the maximum distance is 20 cm to allow through cases but short enough to provide security from would be data thieves
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Theoretically a scanner can read a chip up to 10cm away, though realistically it's more likelly gonna require a maximum distance of 4cm.
from my experience, not more than 5 cm.
In my experience, with phones and those HID security card readers, the distance is almost nothing. With phones, about 3 - 5 cm, and with HID cards, about half an inch.
Conflicting reports in regards to NFC on the higher-end Deluxe models. GSM Arena reports it's available, PDAdb, which i believe is more reliable doesn't even mention 'NFC'.
I believe this VERY common feature has been 'avoided' in this phone, absolutely foolish by ASUS as it's keeping me away from this phone. Can someone please confirm? Anyone know why this decision was made despite the fact they have the 5.5", 5.7" deluxe variants and the ULTRA, which isn't much better?
Thanks
RoOSTA
It is available BUT it is in the very top of the phone.
Most phones use the battery and have NFC centered around the middle of the back. The ASUS Zenfone 3 deluxe, and the ZTE Axon 7, have it at the top of the phone, around where the speaker is located.
I don't know WHY it was put there but I eventually found it with a bit of hair pulling...
Somethings need to be the top part of the back but you can also use the very top of the phone too. A little annoying as this isn't very well explained...
NFC sensor is on the front near the top of the screen.
Yes, it have NFC, in te top of the phone near the call's speaker
I used it all days with some nfc tags.
An awkward location to put the NFC. You cannot see the screen when it is contacting the other device.
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It is available BUT it is in the very top of the phone.
Most phones use the battery and have NFC centered around the middle of the back. The ASUS Zenfone 3 deluxe, and the ZTE Axon 7, have it at the top of the phone, around where the speaker is located.
I don't know WHY it was put there but I eventually found it with a bit of hair pulling...
Somethings need to be the top part of the back but you can also use the very top of the phone too. A little annoying as this isn't very well explained...
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Thanks guys. Can you show me a quick NFC tag scan in a short video please?
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Thanks guys. Can you show me a quick NFC tag scan in a short video please?
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Hey, so I sometimes get the NFC to work (unlike my zenfone 2) bit when I tap to send / beam a picture it goes to Google play and tries to install the gallery app. Anyone know how to send the picture instead?
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Hey, so I sometimes get the NFC to work (unlike my zenfone 2) bit when I tap to send / beam a picture it goes to Google play and tries to install the gallery app. Anyone know how to send the picture instead?
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You "sometimes get it to work" ? Pretty crap phone if it doesn't work as intended...
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You "sometimes get it to work" ? Pretty crap phone if it doesn't work as intended...
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I get NCF to work.. Did not realize the chip was in a different location than model 2. Model 2 is rooted and can send pics via beam with no problem. Version 3 when I try to beam tries to install the app. Don't need wise ass comments. Joined XDA for "real" advice. If I need bull**** comments, remarks, etc I would have just posted on ****ty websites. Real question for real answers. If you have nothing else to do shut the **** up
The NFC is located at the top of the phone. You could "image" it's using the 3.5mm jack as the center of antenna. (Although it's actually there..)
I use the NFC function almost daily for payment (for convenience store purchase as well as subway ride) and it works 100% of time. (never second time touch) The way I use it is screen facing me, only the very top of phone (basically where the 3.5mm jack is located) is touching the payment terminal reception pad.
Most of the payment terminal will even accept the phone lying flat, LCD up as long as the 3.5mm jack is located near center of the payment terminal's reception pad.
The reason why NFC is located at top of phone is that the back of this phone is made by one piece of metal. NFC signal will have trouble pass this metal barrier. Beside, I found it's easier to use as NFC is at top since can hold the phone 45 degrees (LCD facing me) instead stick the back of the phone flat to the payment terminal when making payment.
Also, the screen is not needed to be on when making payment (YMMV, may depend on APP). The sensitivity of NFC is even better then my cashless credit card. (I tested both at same terminal).
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The NFC is located at the top of the phone. You could "image" it's using the 3.5mm jack as the center of antenna. (Although it's actually there..)
I use the NFC function almost daily for payment (for convenience store purchase as well as subway ride) and it works 100% of time. (never second time touch) The way I use it is screen facing me, only the very top of phone (basically where the 3.5mm jack is located) is touching the payment terminal reception pad.
Most of the payment terminal will even accept the phone lying flat, LCD up as long as the 3.5mm jack is located near center of the payment terminal's reception pad.
The reason why NFC is located at top of phone is that the back of this phone is made by one piece of metal. NFC signal will have trouble pass this metal barrier. Beside, I found it's easier to use as NFC is at top since can hold the phone 45 degrees (LCD facing me) instead stick the back of the phone flat to the payment terminal when making payment.
Also, the screen is not needed to be on when making payment (YMMV, may depend on APP). The sensitivity of NFC is even better then my cashless credit card. (I tested both at same terminal).
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Thanks for the info. One of the downsides of the body design I guess... Good to see its working for you and there's a way around it. I would've gone for this phone had root been available on it by now. Lack of IR is something I don't use all the time, but still find it important and am using on my V20...
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I think the NFC reader on my phone might not be working. I tried scanning some NFC toys on it, and no matter where I placed them all over the back and front of the phone, absolutely nothing happened. NFC IS on and enabled, but I get no response.
Is there any way I can check to see if the NFC hardware in my phone is working properly? Or has anyone else had this issue?
NFC is working usually but it does have a small zone where is working. Is the area of the headphone jack, in that small zone between the camera and headphone jack, maybe a little bit of center to the left.
I also use the NFC for various things and I discovered there is working good, the worst part is when you want to do payments to find where is working
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You are not alone with this problem.
Check this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/nfc-reading-cards-t3372168
For me it never worked, too. But I don't need it, so it's not that important for me.
I already sent it to repair. They replaced some parts and it worked one time for me, but never again.
Yeah, I was looking through that post, but it seemed inconclusive. I do need NFC, but really want to make sure if it's a hardware problem first before I send it in for repair. I am not sure how to properly restore everything to a new phone exactly like it was if I do. Which is why I wanted to know if there was any decent way to test it first. Maybe a place I can get a cheap NFC sticker or some app that can test the hardware or something?
The "hardware" will be another phone with NFC, and the sticker can be an electronic passport or a credit card with "contactless" "(paywave)" option.
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burleanu said:
NFC is working usually but it does have a small zone where is working. Is the area of the headphone jack, in that small zone between the camera and headphone jack, maybe a little bit of center to the left.
I also use the NFC for various things and I discovered there is working good, the worst part is when you want to do payments to find where is working
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Thanks for this I was moving my yubi key all over but somehow didn't discover this spot, but you're right it does work near the camera as you describe. Previously I thought it was my OS Lineage, or hardware.
cheers