Use with dumbphone plan on AT&T? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I used to have the international version of the GSII, and I was able to give the IMEI to AT&T, and tell them that it was a dumb phone. This allowed me to use the unlimited $15 data plan.
My understanding is that this is because they don't have the IMEI in their system since it's an international phone. If I were to buy the Galaxy Nexus from Google, would I be able to do the same thing? Or would I have to import one from Europe/Asia? Not sure how the IMEI thing works

Guess I'll try it anyway

Did it work? Anyone know? Looking to do the same thing. Currently have a nexus one on the dumbphone plan, looking to go to a galaxy nexus.

Jakeadiah said:
Did it work? Anyone know? Looking to do the same thing. Currently have a nexus one on the dumbphone plan, looking to go to a galaxy nexus.
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If you already have the plan, go ahead and try it.

I would like to know if this worked as well. I have a photon which is an American phone but is also a world phone and by default is locked to international GSM. Im about to use the domestic hack for the radio to use this as a go phone. Att shouldn't have the imei in their system because its not supposed to work for att lol.
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The general consensus is that only the international gnex's can use the unlimited att data plan. Some how att was able to recognize some gnex's bought from the play store (USA) and flag them as smartphones. There is another thread floating around either here or in the sgs3 forum that showed this.

Toad858 said:
The general consensus is that only the international gnex's can use the unlimited att data plan. Some how att was able to recognize some gnex's bought from the play store (USA) and flag them as smartphones. There is another thread floating around either here or in the sgs3 forum that showed this.
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What's this I keep hearing about people buying phones from the play store??? I've seen this all over. Also would this even apply to the photon? The photon is an American phone that can run on GSM but is locked out of domestic and will most likely never get unlocked for domestic GSM use. So would att log the imei as a smartphone?
Edit: we can use a hybrid radio made custom by a dev to allow domestic GSM but the radio used is from a Japanese phone
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[Q] Unlocked Samsung Galaxy Nexus GT-I9250 bought from google play store

Hello I just bought an unlocked samsung galaxy nexus GT-I9250 and I have a couple of questions #1 has anyone successfully registered their galaxy nexus with samsung. If so I need help. I found the serial number and typed it in along with the purchase date it tells there is an error. #2 does anyone know where to download the drivers for the unlocked galaxy nexus? please give me a link. And last #3 is there some apn I need to put in to get the phone to connect to AT&T's HSPA+ network. Please help. this is my first nexus phone.
1) I can't answer because I imported mine.
2) Here are the drivers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
3) I'm on T-Mobile so I don't know for sure but, I believe you have to call them to provision HSPA+
You can't register it with Samsung.
am i supposed to register it. if so then who?
joshnichols189 said:
You can't register it with Samsung.
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Am I supposed to register it? If so who?
El Daddy said:
1) I can't answer because I imported mine.
2) Here are the drivers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20058157&postcount=1
3) I'm on T-Mobile so I don't know for sure but, I believe you have to call them to provision HSPA+
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Thank you for your help!!! But why are the drivers beta?
caddyman1989 said:
Thank you for your help!!! But why are the drivers beta?
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They're Beta because they're universal. There's official drivers that are specifially for the Galaxy Nexus, but they're tricky to install if you're not familiar with computers.
As for your first question, I tried, couldn't either. Doesn't really matter though, as I called them up for a warranty repair (got some water in the power button) and when asked for my IMEI number, they knew the day it was purchased and shipped.
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caddyman1989 said:
am i supposed to register it. if so then who?
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You don't have to register it with anyone.
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You don't need to register the phone, all warranty claims can be made through Google, just tell them the Checkout Account you used to purchase the phone. AT&T will need to provision you a "4G" plan, which requires the IMEI of an AT&T "4G" phone. Go in store and they should be able to use a floor model or some unit that they have laying around back, don't bother calling Customer Service, they won't know what to do. No fancy APNs to deal with, just crap AT&T mobile registration (even for prepaid).
dnlsmy said:
You don't need to register the phone, all warranty claims can be made through Google, just tell them the Checkout Account you used to purchase the phone. AT&T will need to provision you a "4G" plan, which requires the IMEI of an AT&T "4G" phone. Go in store and they should be able to use a floor model or some unit that they have laying around back, don't bother calling Customer Service, they won't know what to do. No fancy APNs to deal with, just crap AT&T mobile registration (even for prepaid).
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I have a 2 gig plan that I got when I upgraded to the inspire and never saw HSPA+ not even in settings. I saw on YouTube a video and a guy had gotten an LTE plan. But I tried changing my plan online but seeing how att doesn't recognize the phone I couldn't. Do I need to try an lte plan? I have been places that supposedly have HSPA+ but was always on hsdpa and att said "HSDPA is more enhanced version of HSPA+" which I know isn't true.
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You do not have an LTE phone.
striketrue said:
You do not have an LTE phone.
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I know that I'm not stupid. I'm just wandering why I never get HSPA+. I didn't get it when I had an inspire 4g and i still don't get it with the galaxy nexus. I still have HSDPA. And I've gotten HSDPA where there is supposedly "4G" for example Atalanta.

Preventing ATT from knowing I am using this phone on their network?

Is there a way to prevent ATT from knowing that I am using an S3 on their network?
Currently, I am using an HTC Vision and their system can't determine what phone it is because this is not a phone they offer.
But because they do offer the S3, I'm concerned it will show up in their system as an S3 and they will force me to change my data plan.
Thanks.
If it's the t-mobile s3 ..I don't think it will but if it's atts s3...then yes...they'll know.
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defnow said:
If it's the t-mobile s3 ..I don't think it will but if it's atts s3...then yes...they'll know.
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But what about the one from expansys with no contract? Or another site? They appear unbranded.
Is there some software I can use to hide it?
ATT picks up on IMEI's, Serial Numbers and SKU numbers. If the phone you have is unlocked, unbranded or imported they will not register it because those numbers are not in their system. I had done that same thing away back in the day with an international HTC Topaz, which later ATT ended up offering (I dont remember what they ended up calling it). The guy in the store gave me an unlimited dummy phone internet plan saying that because this phone did not come from ATT and was not originally registered to them they wouldnt know what type of phone it was. Now I cant swear by this as it was years ago but it would make sense.
I just ordered my phone contract-free from Amazon Wireless. It's a phone that is set to work on the ATT network. I just hope they don't force me to switch data plans.
I just wonder if there is something I can do to change the IMEI - but if it was easy to do, I suppose that cell phone thieves would be having a field day. I just wonder if I can switch it over, maybe hardware-wise, from my HTC Vision or something.
synpax said:
.....I just wonder if there is something I can do to change the IMEI...
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Seems like loading up CM 9/10 will change your IMEI.
Really? That seems... odd.
How does it know it's not being changed to an already-in-use IMEI number?
synpax said:
Is there a way to prevent ATT from knowing that I am using an S3 on their network?
Currently, I am using an HTC Vision and their system can't determine what phone it is because this is not a phone they offer.
But because they do offer the S3, I'm concerned it will show up in their system as an S3 and they will force me to change my data plan.
Thanks.
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if it's the international version, then they won't know. there's a HUGE thread dedicated to this in the "general" forum of the international SGS3 (not the US ones). read that.
synpax said:
I just ordered my phone contract-free from Amazon Wireless. It's a phone that is set to work on the ATT network. I just hope they don't force me to switch data plans.
I just wonder if there is something I can do to change the IMEI - but if it was easy to do, I suppose that cell phone thieves would be having a field day. I just wonder if I can switch it over, maybe hardware-wise, from my HTC Vision or something.
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it's from AT&T whether or not it's on contract. they will know what phone it is and they will charge you the proper data plan for it. you can't get around it.
stevessvt said:
Seems like loading up CM 9/10 will change your IMEI.
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not in the way the OP would like.
stevessvt said:
Seems like loading up CM 9/10 will change your IMEI.
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Where are you hearing that? Some people claim they lost their IMEI from it. It won't change it, and we have no definite answer as to what's causing it.
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Not that I've done it myself with Android phones...but I have and still do on my iPhone 4. It is an at&t branded phone and I only pay $10/mo for it. (No data). All I did was change the apn to some carrier in south korea and they haven't detected it for over 8 months!
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fmllc said:
Not that I've done it myself with Android phones...but I have and still do on my iPhone 4. It is an at&t branded phone and I only pay $10/mo for it. (No data). All I did was change the apn to some carrier in south korea and they haven't detected it for over 8 months!
Galaxy S III I747
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Change the APN... how do I do that? Got a link?
Guys ... what are you talking about??? I came from Germany still using my HTC One S as well as my iPhone 4. Ok, they registered the IMEI of my HTC One S. But not the one from my iPhone. And both worked w/o any problem. Even in my iPad2 GSM/Wifi. Am I just a lucky guy?
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Change the APN... how do I do that? Got a link?
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......
IPhone only obviously....
Unlock it.co.nz
Just visit this site with browser and it will set up a custom apn profile....no more data plan!
Simply delete the profile in settings if/when you want to use at&t data again!
Its like using an int. Phone afterwards....that's why I think changing the apn on the S III will work as well. Thats why the carriers lock the APN settings by default in stock roms.
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naturefreak85 said:
Where are you hearing that? Some people claim they lost their IMEI from it. It won't change it, and we have no definite answer as to what's causing it.
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I've seen several people say theirs got changed
Long time ago I used to buy Nokia Nxx phones on eBay and just get dumb phone data plan, which was unlimited, and they never knew what exact phone I had. Last one was N95 Mini, and AT&T had their phones and data plans categorized into smart and dumb back then.
That was even after we got notes on the bill saying that if you have X phone, like and iPhone, and didn't have smart phone data plan, they would add it automatically. I got away with it, but on my account it would just show a generic unknown phone

If I get an unlocked version does at&T recognize it?

I am considering the note2 but I want to get the unlocked no commitment version. I have read n the past people will buy non carrier branded phones and the carrier will not recognize the phone so they default to the lowest data plan. Is that still the case? I currently have no data plan so I dont know what I want to do. Part of me is thinking of ditching AT&T and going to one of those prepaid services and using my old number via Google voice but to my understanding the texts get messed up.
Been using international Note N7000 for almost a year and should till tomorrow lol. I have my iPhone 4 SIM in it and the AT&T site shows the picture of a flip phone so they don't know what phone I'm using. I do have the iPhone data plan so maybe they don't care as I'm paying for a data plan.
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Yes ATT will recognize it. As long as you have a micro sim card. If not you can go to an ATT store and ask for one.

[Q] I Don't Want To Pay for a DATA PLAN!

So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
acey_zero said:
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.
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The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...
Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?

[Q] How to unlock Note 4 from Sprint

Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
ali.sulaiman1980 said:
Hello:
I have a note 4 from sprint and needs to be unlocked to be used with a different Carrier
Can you please advise how to be able to do this ? additionally how can remove the sprint start up and sprint apps ?
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on what carrier you are planing to use it? You cannot use sprint Galaxy note 4 on domestic GSM carriers like AT&T, T-mobile and their MVNOs (Straighttalk , etc). The phone can be unlocked for international GSM use (voice and 3G only, not LTE). Internationla unlock can be done officially through Sprint or unofficially via app in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...print-samsung-unlocker-unlock-sprint-t2928250
My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
Im curious too.
Can a Sprint phone be unlocked and set up for use on ANY other carrier in the USA,
ie: Verizon?
No no no
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I am pretty sure that if the phone had a clean ESN that you can activate it on Ting Mobile. I have also saw a thread where someone had flashed a T-Mobile Rom to the Sprint note 4 but they where not getting LTE of course I'm sure in time someone will come out with something stable.
tx_dbs_tx said:
My question is how did you come across a Sprint Note 4? Did you not do your homework before acquiring the Sprint Note 4? Maybe you somehow got the phone for free? Why would somebody actually pay for a nice phone (released only a month or so ago) without knowing if it will work on a completely different network/carrier... then turn around and look for help on how to activate it on a GSM carrier? This makes no sense to me.
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Off topic here.
I came up for upgrade in June. I was gonna go Nexus 5 and then the Nexus 6 rumors started to fly. So I waited and along came the Note 4. After much research I ended up with arguably the best phone on the planet. Imo it is.
Unlock Code
I am in Canada, got this as xmas gift from my father in law
You can root and try Galaxy Tools 4 root users https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idone.galaxymenu
Or you can use this app from the S5 thread you don't need root with this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2928250
Hope this helps a little
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No no no
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So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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Which question would you like answered?
xxSTARBUCKSxx said:
Which question would you like answered?
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How about you answer what you can. Starbucks
see. I just answered your question,
so take a stab at answering too...
even if its a wrong answer, id like to hear .
thanks
jimmbomb said:
So...Sprint phones can ONLY be used on Sprint carrier here is the good 'ol U,S of A???..
if unlocked, then another Sprint user can use it.. but other carriers?? correct???
Once Sprint, Always Sprint???
thanks...
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1. No
2. Customers can switch devices by calling on a different phone to CS or going into store and switch devices, no unlocking necessary.
3. Just switch Sim cards and edit and tweak where necessary or pay someone if you dont know how.
4. Correct, but no unlocking necessary.
5. That depends on the person.
Thank you for your answers
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No no no
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Yes yes yes it can be used with other carriers in the USA. Are people forgetting about flashing of modems and firmware. What decade are we in 1960? Our maybe 1950 when phone were still two way radios. Remember sprint can't stop everything Samsung does in making their phone. Ask the right questions to right people get right answer. If someone in XDA hasn't figured it out yet just wait & keep on looking. XDA is also not the only place to look for answers to everything Samsung, sometimes Samsung is were to look or Samsung blogs. All I hear is everyone that talks about Samsung first thing everyone says is it CAN'T be done. When are the tech, crackers, & hackers of this world going to stop saying everything is impossible & realize we are the ones that make everything possible. If we are going to do that why do we become techs or crackers or hackers or even developers in the every first place?.... LET'S STOP PUTTING LIMITS ON OU OURSELVES & SHOW SPRING WHAT WE CAN DO! Sprint is not GODZ. We created what sprint & Every carrier in the world uses to try to put limitations one everyone with. Are we going to let the carriers use or phones against us or are we going to use them the way the phone manufactures wanted the phones to be used ( without restrictions of the carriers of the world.)
after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
rscooldesire said:
after unlocking your sprint device you can only use it with carriers outside the USA. If you are planning to use it with local sim cards after unlocking like at&t and t-mobile (gsm) then you cannot.
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Umm if its not under payments u can
Yep once the phone is paid for per new laws that went active in Feb or March if you ask the carrier to domestic unlock your phone they are required to do it by law. Some models this will not be possible but the note 4 should. I think the carriers have a grace period to make this available. Not sure how long. I could quote the legislation but Id have to search for it.
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B to the S. If you can unlock a 720t a note 4 can be unlocked!! Period!! It picks up signal just no antenna for that signal because the phone antenna is tuned in the wrong station or radius degree. I think if the people who can unlock 720t s can try the same methods with busy box or Verizon modems. Like guy said earlier " Si se puede"!! It can be done!! Just need to tweak frequency angles and remove face security options a little.
By law you can have it unlocked for a limited time, but that will not make the LTE radio magically work on your carriers band unless they support the same band. Or unless you know someone who can JTAG flash the radio to another carrier as well you will not be able to use the LTE/DATA band on a carrier that does not support the frequency. This is nothing something that can be done over USB or by a new kernel. This will have to be done with JTAG and by someone who has access to the various carriers radio firmware which is tightly guarded. So basically you will be using a Note 4 on 3G only. Might as well just sign up with SPRINT then, you will get the same service speed.

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