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HTC One S better than GS2 but not worth upgrading.

So, I did lots of research and reading and all sorts of information gathering. I have reached the conclusion that the HTC One S is better than T-Mobile Galaxy S II, but not by a large margin. Now, this is just my opinion, but it is based off of lots of information digging and research. I will try to be as unbiased as possible, leaving usage out of the equation. I do not own the One S and will try to ignore any experience with the GSII.
Now, the core of both phones are very much the same both having Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, but the One S has the the edge in this one as it has the newer version, the Qualcomm Snapdragon (S4) Krait. The Krait can fetch, decode and execute more instructions in parallel than its predecessor (Scorpion, Snapdragon S1/S2/S3). I believe the S II holds the S3 (tell me if I'm wrong). This is not a minor difference and is a very evident difference. They both have 1 GB of RAM.
Now, the screens are preferred by different people because they are so different. The S II has a 480x800 Super AMOLED Plus screen at a size of 4.5in. measured diagonally. The One S has a 540x960 Super AMOLED screen at a size of 4.3in. measured diagonally. The issues on the Galaxy S II's screen are only the lines and blotches (aka the mura effect) as far as my research got me. Now, the One S doesn't have that problem (again, all based on research), but it does have problems such as unusual coloring around text,images, and icons. This is due to the phone using alternating red and blue/green and red pixels rather than the traditional Red, Green and Blue (RGB) pixel arrangement. Another issue with the screen is contrast shift. Look at the screen from anywhere off dead center and a distinct blue hue will descend, which is very noticeable. Finally, while the bright, vivid colors are nice to look at, the AMOLED screen tends to over saturate colors meaning the color temperatures are completely off a lot of the time, leading to inaccurate and off-looking images. These screens have major differences but both are preferred by different people. For example, I like the S II screen compared to the higher res screen of the Sensation, due to the color advantage, where as my brother is the opposite.
Both phones come with 16 GB internal storage. The S II user gets to utilize 11 GB of it and the One S user gets to utilize 10 GB with 2 GB for app. The big difference is that the S II has expandable external memory up to 32 GB whereas the One S has no external storage slot. This is a deal-breaker for many, but light to moderate users can live with it.
The cameras are the same except that the One S has a still shot feature while recording a video, but this requires a 4:3 aspect ratio while recording to utilize the 8 megapixels to take the still shot, rather than the preferred 16:9. (Many users are reporting that the One S camera although it has the same number of megapixels, takes better pictures and is a much better camera overall).
The S II boasts a 1850 mAh battery where the One S has a 1650 mAh battery. The One S has, on average, 20-24 hours of life on a single charge. BEWARE: THE BATTERY ON THE One S IS NOT REMOVABLE! While still annoyingly low, it is on a par with most smartphones these days. The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. This is due to the larger screen mostly.
Software is something that will not be discussed in detail because of bloatware and the fact that the software in Android phones is very malleable.
The One S ships with Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) and Sense 4.0. The Galaxy S II ships with Android 2.3.5(Gingerbread) which is upgradable to Android 2.3.6(Gingerbread) and is yet to receive an official Android 4.0 update. The Galaxy S II also comes with TouchWiz 4.0. The Android 4.0 on the One S works extremely well with its upgraded processor and is very smooth. The Galaxy S II's Gingerbread also runs very smooth on its own processor. Both phones can be rooted and different ROMs can be flashed on both.
This is it so far. I will be adding any new updates in the same format as devs do.

aranurea said:
The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. this is due to the larger screen mostly.
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Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has. The reason for longer battery in HTC is because of the S4 can handle processes more efficiently and faster.

Also the HTC one has no removeable battery.but the one thing I can say is it is HTC and they do make a damn good device

S3 vs S4 is a HUGE change. You can't write it off as a minor point. The HTC One S is simply a better phone than the S2 at this point. But is it good enough to warrant an upgrade? Not really.
If the One X makes its way over, then I'd absolutely jump ship.
Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has.
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This is so false. Like to the point where I don't even know where the begin.

it might not be worth upgrading it but it doesn't make the One S the loser. The Snapdragon S4 it is a big step up from the S3, also the HTC One S have better build materials not some cheap plastic chrome that scratches even with a case on. Personally I wouldn't upgrade the One S or even the GSIII those devices don't bring anything new to the table.

josemedina1983 said:
it might not be worth upgrading it but it doesn't make the One S the loser. The Snapdragon S4 it is a big step up from the S3, also the HTC One S have better build materials not some cheap plastic chrome that scratches even with a case on. Personally I wouldn't upgrade the One S or even the GSIII those devices don't bring anything new to the table.
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ive had my phone for about 5 -6 months not one scratch on the chrome part (i dont see any chipping) maybe u mean tiny ass meniscule scratches that u cant even see if so god ur so over observant. i NEVER use any stupid cases. idk what the hell ur talking about.

The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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jonathan3579 said:
The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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Qualcomm did an excellent job on their processor. Instead of hoping on the quadcore bandwagon like nividia and samsung.
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aranurea said:
So, I did lots of research and reading and all sorts of information gathering. I have reached the conclusion that the HTC One S is just as good as the T-Mobile Galaxy S II at best. Now, this is just my opinion, but it is based off of lots of information digging and research. I will try to be as unbiased as possible, leaving usage out of the equation.
Now, the core of both phones are very much the same both having Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, but the One S has the the edge in this one as it has the newer version, the Qualcomm Snapdragon (S4) Krait. The Krait can fetch, decode and execute more instructions in parallel than its predecessor (Scorpion, Snapdragon S1/S2/S3). I believe the S II holds the S3 (tell me if I'm wrong). This is not a major difference, but the difference certainly is there. They both have 1 GB of RAM.
Now, the screens are preferred by different people because they are so different. The S II has a 480x800 Super AMOLED Plus screen at a size of 4.5in. measured diagonally. The One S has a 540x960 Super AMOLED screen at a size of 4.3in. measured diagonally. The issues on the Galaxy S II's screen are only the lines and blotches (aka the mura effect) as far as my research got me. Now, the One S doesn't have that problem (again, all based on research), but it does have problems such as unusual coloring around text,images, and icons. This is due to the phone using alternating red and blue/green and red pixels rather than the traditional Red, Green and Blue (RGB) pixel arrangement. Another issue with the screen is contrast shift, as you can see in the comparison picture above. Look at the screen from anywhere off dead centre and a distinct blue hue will descend, which is very noticeable. Finally, while the bright, vivid colours are nice to look at, the AMOLED screen tends to over saturate colours meaning the colour temperatures are completely off a lot of the time, leading to inaccurate and off-looking images. These screens have major differences but both are preferred by different people. For example, I like the S II screen compared to the higher res screen of the Sensation, due to the color advantage, where as my brother is the opposite.
Both phones come with 16 GB internal storage. The S II user gets to utilize 11 GB of it and the One S user gets to utilize 10 GB with 2 GB for app. The big difference is that the S II has expandable external memory up to 32 GB whereas the One S has no external storage slot. This is a deal-breaker for many, but light to moderate users can live with it.
The cameras are the same except that the One S has a still shot feature while recording a video, but this requires a 4:3 aspect ratio while recording to utilize the 8 megapixels to take the still shot, rather than the preferred 16:9.
The S II boasts a 1850 mAh battery where the One S has a 1650 mAh battery. The One S has, on average, 20-24 hours of life on a single charge. While still annoyingly low, it is on a par with most smartphones these days. The Galaxy S II also has very similar battery life even though it has more mAh. this is due to the larger screen mostly.
This comparison is not finished and will be continued tomorrow.
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You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.

jonathan3579 said:
The One S battery life far exceeds that of the GS2 and I thought that phone had amazing battery life. I'm averaging 26 hours heavy use with 4G on all day.
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really? FAR exceeds?? it'll be awesome if the battery life is better but far exceeds is something i would say when comparing the gs2's battery life to the amaze/sensation (1.5x-2x more)
but that's awesome.
OP, you should really have hands on before reviewing more. It is hard reviewing off "researches" when a lot of things comes out bias and all.

adslee said:
You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.
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Their Zeiss camera on the HTC line is far superior to ours
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adslee said:
You obviously didn't do a very good job at your research if you think that the One S and the SII have the same camera. 8 MP cameras are not universally equivalent just because they have the same amount of megapixels.
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i would have to agree with this, I doubt the s2 is on par with HTC's camera, they excel in that department starting with the mt4gs, i doubt their camera has degraded since the amaze.

I went out and got the HTC phone (I have 3 upgrades on my account) and I have played with it for a few days and I have t say that a few things bug me about the phone.
The size of the screen can become annoying because I am acclimated to the SGS2 screen size and keyboard, you can increase the font size on the HTC but you will suffer in the keyboard auto word options.
The camera does take some good photos BUT...when you look at them on the actual phone after you snap a pic, it looks as though they are somewhat blurry, but after you email them to yourself and view them on a PC they are VERY clear and detailed.
HTC Sense 4.0 is good but it can also be a little annoying.
People complain about the phone only coming with 16 GB of memory BUT you also get 25gb of drop box memory for free and also Skycloud for an additional 7gb for free and if you have google drive you have an additional 5gb there as well.
Data Speeds are wayyyy down compared to the SGS2 I could not muster up data speeds faster than 6-7mb down and 1-2mbs up.
Overall this phone will take some time to become a favorite but I am hooked on the SGS2.
THIS JUST MY OPINION and ONLY MY experience......

Based on user comments and more research, I have reached a different conclusion and have changed the name of the thread. Thank you for sharing information with me.
This thread will be constantly updated anytime possible, because I won't have as much time due to upcoming AP Exams in the next week or two.

alphadog32 said:
Just going to say, it doesn't matter what the screen size is, it he amount of pixels it has. The reason for longer battery in HTC is because of the S4 can handle processes more efficiently and faster.
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I have to say that I don't agree. If the International GSII had the same battery as the Tmo GSII and you left both on a white screen, the Tmo would die before the International one. Obviouly I'm talking about a controlled experiment in which the only variable is the screen size and not processes running, processor and others. But things are never ideal for experiments.
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Also, any hands on experience that people want to share can be posted. None of my hands on experience will go into the OP as I don't own or have access to a One S. It is the reader's responsibility to read all posts during a phone comparison. Thank You all for taking the time to read and give feedback.

I've been messing with a few. I am not impressed. Htc could give us a qwerty keyboard phone that was up to date, but that's about it. I'm never going to buy another htc phone. I love my g2, though
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Teo032 said:
really? FAR exceeds?? it'll be awesome if the battery life is better but far exceeds is something i would say when comparing the gs2's battery life to the amaze/sensation (1.5x-2x more)
but that's awesome.
OP, you should really have hands on before reviewing more. It is hard reviewing off "researches" when a lot of things comes out bias and all.
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Far exceeds to me includes time on cell data and screen on time. I've never really made an entire day safely with 4G on. Don't get me wrong, the T989 beat the Galaxy Nexus but this phone has the best battery of them all. I easily get around 5-6 hours screen on time while staying on 4G all day doing my routine of texting, YouTube videos, and music streaming on Pandora. I can only imagine how it'd go with bigger battery.
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Honestly the larger the in reguard to more pixels the better. Higher res on larger screens are better than on smaller screen to keep up with the screen growth so.
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Teo032 said:
i would have to agree with this, I doubt the s2 is on par with HTC's camera, they excel in that department starting with the mt4gs, i doubt their camera has degraded since the amaze.
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reviews of the HTC one S, do tend to point out that the camera results aren't always superb, but the software is excellent.

I have the one s, and I had the sgs2 before I started using my amaze. The one s is a superior phone, users that love there galaxy s2 may hate or disagree but it just is. The battery is beyond the galaxy s2, it last longer stock then the galaxy s2 with custom roms or kernels. The screen looks much nicer without the blobs and the resolution is much better. The processor really shows its power considering the amaze has crappy battery life due to its resolution, sense and overall software on this phone all things which strain the processor. Now the one s runs sense, same resolution with a better screen, and a smaller battery yet the processor handles it like a champ and achieves bettery battery. The one s is thinner, has a camera that takes way better photos then the gs2 and feels better in hand because of its materials. This all makes it a better phone but it still has its flaws the gs2 has a better front camera, expandable memory, and will probably have more development. Point is the one s is a better phone but the gs2s development will keep it right up there with it until a better phone is released, I would personally choose the gs2 over the one s, which to get the best of both worlds I'm using the amaze as the camera is on par with the one s but at the sacrifice of battery life because it sucks . Those are my two cents from owning them both.
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Reviewed - So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better, but are you keeping your X?

Hi.
GSMArena have just published a 1v1 review of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. I can't link to it unfortunately but go and have a read.
As expected, the Galaxy S 3 does just about win in every key area, however it's marginal most of the time.
Unfortunately marginal victories don't convince me as the S 3 just looks (and apparently feels) awful.
How about you?

Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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joshnichols189 said:
Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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Quite.
The amount of times I'll enjoy the feel and design of my device will dwarf the amount of times I'll care if the camera is a tiny bit better or if a web page loads 000.1 second faster.
Samsung would be on to a real winner if they actually got some good designers in though. Strange.

Here's the link
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759.php
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Dtguilds said:
How about you?
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No way I'll get rid of my One X! Maybe I might (a very HUGE might) get the SGS3 because I think I have OCD lol. But not gonna replace my One X. The One X looks better I reckon. Just my 2 cents.

But is it better, really? It's a very personal opinion as both devices are super powerful and also very similar. However, I take IPS over amoled every day of the week, so for me the choice is easy, and on top of that the HOX just looks so much better. The two only upsides of s3 are sd-card and bigger battery. How much more battery time it has is to be seen.
Edit: If S3 had an A15 cpu instead, then the choice would've been harder. But I would've probably kept my hox till the next flagship was to be released, of any brand.

PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.

revasser said:
PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.
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The pentile they're using isn't bad at all.

I knew the SIII would have an overall edge over the One X seeing as it was coming to market after it, thinking otherwise would have just been plain stupid but I've never really liked the Samsung UI style and I'm not too keen on the look of the phone.
I don't think there's enough of a difference between the two phones to make me switch, plus the One X in my opinion looks way nicer and I'm fickle when it comes to looks
I'm definitely disappointed in the photo and video quality though. Samsung videos definitely look better.
Also, all the talk about the Pentile screen and excuses such as "making a Super AMOLED Plus HD screen just isnt possible" but then this phone comes along with a better screen than the "Flagship" SIII. Looks like maybe Samsung want to ditch Android for their own OS? Its a developer phone but it still has a better screen than the SIII!!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9500_fraser-4752.php

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The pentile they're using isn't bad at all.
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Everyone said that about about the GNex as well and I was THIS close to buying one when it was released, but positive reports from third parties don't match what my eyes see when I look at my colleague's Nexus.
I'm not saying it's going to be a big deal for everyone. I imagine whether or not it's a problem comes down to the individual looking at the screen. But having seen a GNex in person (with a similar display) and used PenTile in the past... no dice

Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The pentile really isn't that bad, yea some edges look a bit more jagged, but you have to put the thing right up in your face. At such high resolutions on both phones, half an arms length away from your face and they will look nearly the same.
The biggest thing for me is the removable battery and the battery performance.
Damn, it even won in 3G talk time.......wtf? I thought the companion core was used for the talk time which is why it got such high scores. But the GS3 still managed to beat it out.
I put everything down to bad optimization on HTC and Nvidia's part. How the hell are you going to lose in web browser to SAMOLED? SAMOLED eats battery like no other on all white colors, and the video playback is horrendous. Companion core should be used for video playback and that Nvidia prism technology crap which is supposed to increase battery life by like idk whatever they said 100%? I don't remember.
Either way, it's a case of HTC Sense and software being un-optimized and not mature vs Samsung software being what it does best. It works and does it efficiently producing good results.
I'm still keeping my One X though, design and build it wins hands down IMO. GS3 isn't a big upgrade either over HOX. Software just sucks and needs to be better, too immature when ICS has been out for like half a year already.
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thegregulator said:
Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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I don't think HTC and Samsung might've done enough.
Granted, that LG phone is going to come pretty late.....Quad-core Krait are pretty far off from the roadmap and the upcoming Sony flagship with Krait Pro (should come earlier) will give Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 a run for their money. Design and camera should be very nice also.
Sony really looks to be getting on track now, especially considering how far they've fallen in every sector besides Playstation.

Dtguilds said:
So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better
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Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.

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I personally agree with everything you said SD cards aren't a problem for me though, 16gb currently and only half filled - that's with a few shows/music and stuff my only worry about the One X is the price of replacing the battery - my brother might want it after my contract finish and the battery will have degraded a bit by then.

thegregulator said:
Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The O2X/G2X were probably the worst phones every to be released by a manufacturer. The G2X is the subject of a class action lawsuit in the U.S. because of its putrid performance and sales were halted for three months while LG tried to figure out its problems. After owning one I'll never buy an LG product again. Not even a toaster. "Deadly" is a great choice of words; that's how previous O2X/G2X owners would describe their experiences.

Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.

I have let go galaxy note for one x, there is no way I want to go back to samsung
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barondebxl said:
Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.
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If they were women (or men), which one would you want to date? The pretty voluptuous one or the one with child bearing hips?

My OneX will be on eBay once the S3 is available. Main negatives of the OneX for me - no S-Off, poor battery life, cannot remove battery, no ext SD. I use Android phones mainly to try custom ROMs.

Gosh! Yet another boring, unproductive topic by thread stsrter of just 4 posts...!
It's all depends on one's preference and priority for god's sake!

The HTC One X is a fantastic phone - My Screens

Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues but putting them aside I have got to seriously say this is one awesome phone and I've owned pretty much a ****load of tech over the years.
Some people have had some issues with screen or battery or whatever, but that's just the way these things are, whether its a phone or an xbox 360 or a tv screen or whatever, electronics aren't always perfect as much as we want them to be just like maybe your girlfriend or wife lol.
I can't put the phone down, my battery drains only because I'm always playing with it, the gorgeous screen, the beautiful white body, putting all the issues aside I just love this phone!!
I've played with the Galaxy S3 and I was disgusted at the UI (albeit innovative), it is fugly. when I look at the One X, god Sense is actually quite beautiful and innovative in it's own way. Not to mention the weak ugly back plastic cover which you could fold over a few times, all qualities that I dislike for some reason and I'm sure I'm not the minority here
Forget benchmarks, I've played Nova 3, Mass Effect, 9mm, Backstab, Asphalt, Modern Combat 3, GTA3 to name a few and all the games are gorgeous and run really well with no lag!
P.s. In case anyone is wondering, I'm using ChompSMS with a custom theme

I agree on the UI front. Having had previous Samsung devices and played a lot with the Galaxy Note the whole UI is fugly compared to Sense.
Albeit the Galaxy range of phones are great as well. Both UIs works well with each having their own unique features.
HOX is a lovely phone on it's own rights. Improved upon with custom roms.
The screen as well, not tried the SGS3 yet but compared to the Note I like the natural colours of the HOX and the whites.

I have to agree. If you have no hardware faults then this phone is amazing. I have one minor one that I will have to get used to. When actually using the phone its amazing.
How did you get Modern combat on you're one x ?
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i emailed gameloft and they sent me a modified apk, but apparently theirs ways to decompile apk to bypass checks that someone posted the other day
(do not message me asking for apk)

I'm hoping Nova2 and PvZ gets an update
Other than that I agree! It's a great phone! Just got my second one in and so far so good (got it unlocked and CWM restored the data from my old phone so I was up and running in no time!).
Right now it's updating all those apps and podcasts I missed while the new one was in the mail.
Not too concerned with the QC issues. Both Apple laptops I've bought with my own money and my N900 had to be sent back RMA'd. This is the first time I've been able to send it back to the retailer for an exchange so things are on the up and up! My old Nexus S should have been sent in (Dust under the FCC) but I just resolved myself to taking it apart every month or so and cleaning it out. Since then, however, I'm planning to resist the urge to dismantle my phones. Just not good on my blood pressure.

mox123 said:
Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues but putting them aside I have got to seriously say this is one awesome phone and I've owned pretty much a ****load of tech over the years.
I can't put the phone down, my battery drains only because I'm always playing with it, the gorgeous screen, the beautiful white body, putting all the issues aside I just love this phone!!
I've played with the Galaxy S3 and I was disgusted at the UI (albeit innovative), it is fugly. when I look at the One X, god Sense is actually quite beautiful and innovative in it's own way.
Forget benchmarks, I've played Nova 3, Mass Effect, 9mm, Backstab, Asphalt, Modern Combat 3, GTA3 to name a few and all the games are gorgeous!
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This 100%
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Absolutely.. 100% agree..
Have today played with SIII in my hands.. no need to argue, OneX is the undisputable winner, phone of the year / to date. Slightly better performance measurements in some benchmarks (besides some shows OneX better, and some SIII), or 2 hrs more battery time is nothing considering with the built quality and awesome look, especially look at the left side of the SIII, metal(!) frame and metal volume rocker on that side sounds like cheap, bad quality toys.
Will not mention on TouchWizz UI, just in short, menus look like gingerbread though it is ICS 4.0.4
Also IPS SuperLCD2 is way much better than SuperAmoled HD when it comes to being closer to real/natural colors. Why Samsung played with blue subpixels and made them smaller in SIII's pentile matrix? apparently upon listening to criticism they got from public (read as customers plz) + (still cold but a tad warmer in comparison to its predecessors)
check this...
http://pocketnow.com/2012/06/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-vs-htc-one-x-video/
Forget everything you have read abt those devices so far, benchmarks, comparisons, others opinions etc. even mines above and just think that you have OneX in one hand and SIII in another, compare these two badboys and say, which one you would prefer to go with? at least two years or even longer from purchase?

Used gs3 yesterday and disappointed with its performance and colour.
So far HTC is best in its user interface and style.
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Every phone has its issues.
The HTC One X is a very beautifull designed phone, the best you can buy right now to my opinion.
mox123 said:
Despite what many may say, I know the OneX has it's issues
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When I first played with the One X in a store I was blown away and soon bought one.
I went into a store and played with the SGSIII the other day and was left underwhelmed.
Yes, there are a couple of nice touches in Touch Wiz (I watched a long review on youtube) but the feel of it, the look of the device and the screen just left me 'meh'.
Just didnt feel right in the hand and looks like a kids toy TBH….cheap?
I dunno, maybe having a couple of HTC devices before (Hero and Desire S) and then a couple of Blackberrys conditioned me to liking well built and well designed handsets, not airfix models, lol
Steve

Got a link to that wallpaper? That looks fantastic

Shadowgun THD and Riptide both look fantastic on this amazing beast .
Get the Zedge app from store .some great wallpapers on there

i agree, I have also chosen HTC One X over SGS III, simply because of the beautiful build quality, and while I normally prefer Super AMOLED screens, the display used on the One X is just spectacularly good. SGS III was completely overhyped, and with the high expectations people had, it turned out to be "just another android phone"
I will stick with my One X, and Android Revolution HD

I agreed this is indeed beautiful phone. No regret
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I waited for the release of the SGS III before deciding which to go for--- SGS III or HOX.
HOX won me over. The Touchwiz UI was a huge turn off and so was the build quality. I hate companies who make up too much of a hype whose products are overrated. I was extremely disappointed with the SGS III.
HOX, on the other hand, impressed me by a far margin. It was like the company scrapped everything from last year and started anew.
HOX is exactly the flagship I've been looking for.
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I agree 100%

I have to agree, it took me a few days to get used to the HOX but I am extremely happy now!
I come from a Samsung Captivate and Samsung Galaxy S2 so my natural things was to upgrade to the SGS3 but I wanted so bad to try another brand. I was waiting forever for a decent Sony but their software suck badly.
Then came the HOX and I jumped in (white one Tegra). At first I have to be honest, I was underwhelmed by the level of blacks (coming from AMOLED and SAMOLED) but oh boy was I wrong, this has to be the most amazing display out there.
Also after a dose of Android Revolution, APM, 3 dot fix and UltraSmooth Rosie this phone flies!!!!
As a bonus I do like Sense very much, not feeling the need to run to ICS/Apex as I did with the horrible TW on my SGS2.

I just got my One X 5 days ago and like to give it a mini review.
Body and build quality: In my personal opinion, the HOX is the BEST LOOKING SMARTPHONE OF ALL TIME. Nuff said.
Screen: Never seen anything like this before on a smartphone, excellent viewing angles, nice warm and accurate colors, text very very sharp, outdoor visibility is incredible. Only complain is that it's easy to scratch the screen.
Call quality: pretty good but not the best
Battery life: it's ok, could be better. It almost doesn't use any juice when it's in idle but soon as you start using it you lose like 5% so I don't know. Wished HTC would have been more generous considering this is non removable ( razr maxx?) still after 5 days of using it, I can see the battery improving cause of calibration.
Performance: good, not mind blowing. Does stutter from time to time. Gaming is awesome, no complaints there, browsing is nice but again could be better ( SGSIII?).
Multitasking: not that much of a deal breaker as I thought, not the best obviously but i definitely can live with it. I do like the transition effect when you enter an app or when you press the recent app button and scroll though them, very slick. Just wished you could see more than one app at a time ( stock ICS?)
Audio and speakers: audio is good, beats does enhance sound but a little gimmicky. Speaker is kinda weak in my opinion, although its pretty clear.
Camera: I won't lie, I hardly use the camera on my phone so can't tell but from the few pics I took I love it. But I'm easy to please in that area that's just me
Sense 4.0: MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER than previous versions, less bloated, like how you manage widgets. Don't like the fact that there's a million clock widgets, a million calculator widgets. Wtf HTC?
I think that's pretty much it. The HOX in my opinion, is a fantastic device. I've never seen a better looking device in my life, the screen is amazing especially outdoor visibility. Performance is quite good and battery life is getting better. HTC is heading in the right direction after disappointing releases like the sensation and evo 3D. They've listened to people and toned down sense, which looks as gorgeous as ever by the way. I wish HTC was making their own SoC so they can match it well with android and sense and make it runs super smooth and give it excellent battery life. Still the one x is a fantastic phone and I would recommend it to anybody. Peace!

started the weekend buying the s3 then exchanged for another s3. extremely happy to be finally with a onex. the s3 was nice but felt very fragile. wasn't happy with 2g reception.wouldn't connect to the internet on 2g.may have been a carrier issue.decided to change carrier and phone. reception issue solved .still 2g but have internet connections albeit slow. 3g performance excellent. but most important the phone just feels right.i use a gel case on my phones and had one on the s3 also but the X just feels better. sense is still far better than touchwiz.had wanted to give the s3 a try as i have a tp2 and a titan but once again i find the user experience with htc just that bit better.

Question to those who had galaxy s2 and switched to htc one x!

Hello guys i have a question for those who had galaxy s2 and switched to htc one x
Any way i got bored from my galaxy s2 is it a good move to switch to htc one x ? Is it worth switching to htc one x or not ?and please tell me the reason if it is good to switch or not ?
And how is the performance compared to galaxy s2 ?
And iv heard some problems with htc one x like over heating and screen flix and stuff like that so im kindda worried hope u guys replay so i can make my choice on buying it tomorrow or not
Hope u replay THANKS alot guys in advance
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ayhamx360 said:
Hello guys i have a question for those who had galaxy s2 and switched to htc one x
Any way i got bored from my galaxy s2 is it a good move to switch to htc one x ? Is it worth switching to htc one x or not ?and please tell me the reason if it is good to switch or not ?
And how is the performance compared to galaxy s2 ?
And iv heard some problems with htc one x like over heating and screen flix and stuff like that so im kindda worried hope u guys replay so i can make my choice on buying it tomorrow or not
Hope u replay THANKS alot guys in advance
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Screen is probably the biggest reason. The slcd2 on thr one x is probably one of the best screens I've used.
Battery life is around the same,but it should improve with later updates.
Most of the quality control issue are sorted out if not all of them. Just make sure you get a recent one. Granted I have a first batch one x made on China and it's perfect
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make the jump... i came from the s2 and loved that phone to bits and still say it was the best phone i ever had but my One X is hands down ten times better and love it...You will not regret it my friend and once you get to grips with flashing roms and kernels you are in for a winner

pewpewbangbang said:
Screen is probably the biggest reason. The slcd2 on thr one x is probably one of the best screens I've used.
Battery life is around the same,but it should improve with later updates.
Most of the quality control issue are sorted out if not all of them. Just make sure you get a recent one. Granted I have a first batch one x made on China and it's perfect
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Hi thanks for ur replay
How do i know if the htc one x is recent one ?
And my friend got htc one x yestrday i saw it
But there is a weird thing when he opened it the sticker on the screen (is htc one x ) and as i know and seen on videos that it comes with sticky on it says(im the one you have been waiting for)
Does this mean new ones comes with only htc one x sticky on it ?
And can u please be kind and tell me what the first things i need to check when i get my htc one x like check screen and what else ?
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Goku80 said:
make the jump... i came from the s2 and loved that phone to bits and still say it was the best phone i ever had but my One X is hands down ten times better and love it...You will not regret it my friend and once you get to grips with flashing roms and kernels you are in for a winner
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Thanks for ur replay
How is the gaming preformance is it better than sgs2 ' and does it over heat more than the sgs2, when playing games?
And is it less laggy or more laggy than the galaxy s2, when it comes for multi tasking ?
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ayhamx360 said:
Thanks for ur replay
How is the gaming preformance is it better than sgs2 ' and does it over heat more than the sgs2, when playing games?
And is it less laggy or more laggy than the galaxy s2, when it comes for multi tasking ?
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hey...find it better to be honest with you gaming wise. and no heat or anything like that. and no it is buttery smooth for me my friend..plus there are threads in general were it guides you on how to get the best gaming experience..
in general anything you need to know you will find a guide here
and this phone like i said is fast, smooth, good performance wise and gaming could not ask for a better phone

If you don't care for removable battery and additional storage space then it's a fine phone. If the two fore mentioned are of any significance then I suggest to skip the phone.
The screen on the one x is fantastic, it's sharp, clear and bright. Better than amoled for whites and colours are closer to natural. However blacks are not as deep and contrast not as high.
The performance is fine for a tegra 3 device. The heat is not much of an issue it does heat up but it won't burn you or explode type of heat. My sgs2 use to heat up as well when playing games.
Give it a hands on and if you like it you'll be pleased with it. I adore mine and wouldn't swap it for anything at the present moment.
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I came from SGS2-IPHONE 4 and SGS1 as well and i dont miss them.
The HTC One X is a very beautiful Handy with a really good user Interface. I love it.
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I had the Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) then the international version of the Galaxy S2 (i9100) and now the Tegra 3 HOX. I used to be a Samsung fanboi so it was a gamble for me, plus my wife has an iphone 4S so I can compare agaianst that one too. Hi, here are my comments. Keep in mind that you are not switching from an old Motorola to a One X you are switching from one of the best smartphones ever made (Galaxy S2). Here are my comments.
1. First week: complete culture shock. I missed the deep blacks and punchy colors of my Galaxy S2. HOX looked ok more natural but kind of washed out colors, I missed those saturated colors of SAMOLED. Speed wise I did not see what the fuzz was about. Speedwise I did not see any differences. SGS2 felt more fluid, tiny lag on the HOX. I did like Sense though. Rooting the HOX was scary compared to the SGS2 but I got through it. Missed the SGS2 XDA community a lot. Dissapointed with HOX, wanted to return it, but I remember having the same feelings with the Captivate so I decided to give it a try.
2. Second week: either my eyes got used to the blacks and colors on the One X or my display adjusted itself. Now I am seeing what the fuzz is about, now the blacks seem fine on the HOX and oh my those colors and resolution!!!! I compared it side to side with the SGS2 (already sold to a friend) and it was a relief, even my friend seems jealous of the HOX screen. Facebook, ebay and Kindle look like CRAP om the SGS2 compared to the One X, those whites!!! Side to side with my wife iphone 4S, on par cant see much difference which is a good thing as the iphone display is superb. Looking at kindle with white background the One X looks better. Speed is fine its fast but still that annoying lag when turning homescreens. Camera is great if you fiddle with the settings as sometimes it chooses a high ISO and look grainy but look sharp with ISO100. Lowlight shots are great way better than SGS2.
3. Third week: Installed Charmeleon ROM, added transparent notification pulldown, great notification settings menu (EQS) and slide status bar to adjust brightness, things I missed on my SGS2!!!! Solved phone lag, it was just a matter of installing APEX Launcher and volia! My phone now feels faster and looks better than what I had on my SGS2!!!!! I made it!!!! I am in ecstasy! Only 2 problems!!!! MY WIFI IS BROKEN (known design flaw) and my battery still sucks when compared with my SGS2!!! SGS2 18 hrs use/4 hrs display time. HOX: 12 hrs use/2 hrs display time. Yuck!
4. Fourth week : The only 2 problems I had with my HOX (battery life and wifi dropping out) are now solved!!!! Solved the lousy battery life by decreasing brightness . I found out that if you decrease it at around 30% it still looks great you dont need it at top brightness and now I am getting 22 hrs/4 hrs battery life on average but for instance I am doing a movie test and it has been running for 5 hours and still has 37% left! The wifi issue, this one was tricky: I opened my HOX and adjusted the wifi contacts myself. Not that difficult but I was lucky I didnt damage anything. Now wifi works perfectly!
5. Ultimate test : SGS3 vs HOX encounter. So my friend went to a meeting and I borrowed his SGS3 for 2 hours and made comparisons like crazy. Let me tell you the SGS3 is a great phone I declare it a tie vs the HOX. The HOX screen still looks better specially the whites and it is more defined and clear. Design and materials on the HOX are better however the SGS3 also is a nice phone it is not the piece of crap some reviewers want you to believe. Plus there is the removable battery thing.
In summary I am delighted with my HOX, best phone I ever had. However, as you can see I had to make the following tuning:
1. Root
2. Installed Charmeleon / Faux Kernel
3. Waited some battery cycles (charge at 10%). It does improve over time!
4. Lower brightness
5. Installed APEX Launcher for turbo fast transitions!
6. Fixed wifi myself (as I am out of warranty anyways)
7. Definetely not having SGS3 envy!
I say go for it IF you are able to return it easily in case you have any out of the box issues. It seems you have better chance of getting a perfect SGS3 vs a perfect HOX.

Garoto1973 said:
I had the Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) then the international version of the Galaxy S2 (i9100) and now the Tegra 3 HOX. I used to be a Samsung fanboi so it was a gamble for me, plus my wife has an iphone 4S so I can compare agaianst that one too. Hi, here are my comments. Keep in mind that you are not switching from an old Motorola to a One X you are switching from one of the best smartphones ever made (Galaxy S2). Here are my comments.
1. First week: complete culture shock. I missed the deep blacks and punchy colors of my Galaxy S2. HOX looked ok more natural but kind of washed out colors, I missed those saturated colors of SAMOLED. Speed wise I did not see what the fuzz was about. Speedwise I did not see any differences. SGS2 felt more fluid, tiny lag on the HOX. I did like Sense though. Rooting the HOX was scary compared to the SGS2 but I got through it. Missed the SGS2 XDA community a lot. Dissapointed with HOX, wanted to return it, but I remember having the same feelings with the Captivate so I decided to give it a try.
2. Second week: either my eyes got used to the blacks and colors on the One X or my display adjusted itself. Now I am seeing what the fuzz is about, now the blacks seem fine on the HOX and oh my those colors and resolution!!!! I compared it side to side with the SGS2 (already sold to a friend) and it was a relief, even my friend seems jealous of the HOX screen. Facebook, ebay and Kindle look like CRAP om the SGS2 compared to the One X, those whites!!! Side to side with my wife iphone 4S, on par cant see much difference which is a good thing as the iphone display is superb. Looking at kindle with white background the One X looks better. Speed is fine its fast but still that annoying lag when turning homescreens. Camera is great if you fiddle with the settings as sometimes it chooses a high ISO and look grainy but look sharp with ISO100. Lowlight shots are great way better than SGS2.
3. Third week: Installed Charmeleon ROM, added transparent notification pulldown, great notification settings menu (EQS) and slide status bar to adjust brightness, things I missed on my SGS2!!!! Solved phone lag, it was just a matter of installing APEX Launcher and volia! My phone now feels faster and looks better than what I had on my SGS2!!!!! I made it!!!! I am in ecstasy! Only 2 problems!!!! MY WIFI IS BROKEN (known design flaw) and my battery still sucks when compared with my SGS2!!! SGS2 18 hrs use/4 hrs display time. HOX: 12 hrs use/2 hrs display time. Yuck!
4. Fourth week : The only 2 problems I had with my HOX (battery life and wifi dropping out) are now solved!!!! Solved the lousy battery life by decreasing brightness . I found out that if you decrease it at around 30% it still looks great you dont need it at top brightness and now I am getting 22 hrs/4 hrs battery life on average but for instance I am doing a movie test and it has been running for 5 hours and still has 37% left! The wifi issue, this one was tricky: I opened my HOX and adjusted the wifi contacts myself. Not that difficult but I was lucky I didnt damage anything. Now wifi works perfectly!
5. Ultimate test : SGS3 vs HOX encounter. So my friend went to a meeting and I borrowed his SGS3 for 2 hours and made comparisons like crazy. Let me tell you the SGS3 is a great phone I declare it a tie vs the HOX. The HOX screen still looks better specially the whites and it is more defined and clear. Design and materials on the HOX are better however the SGS3 also is a nice phone it is not the piece of crap some reviewers want you to believe. Plus there is the removable battery thing.
In summary I am delighted with my HOX, best phone I ever had. However, as you can see I had to make the following tuning:
1. Root
2. Installed Charmeleon / Faux Kernel
3. Waited some battery cycles (charge at 10%). It does improve over time!
4. Lower brightness
5. Installed APEX Launcher for turbo fast transitions!
6. Fixed wifi myself (as I am out of warranty anyways)
7. Definetely not having SGS3 envy!
I say go for it IF you are able to return it easily in case you have any out of the box issues. It seems you have better chance of getting a perfect SGS3 vs a perfect HOX.
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Hi man thanks for ur replay wow u did a great review thanks alot !
Now my only fear is about the wifi( because if it had any problems i cant return it there is no warranty for devices where i live......)
I talked with a friend of mine who just bought the htc one x today
He told me that he tried the wifi and its working fine with no dc
And with long range
If i got my htc one x does this mean that 100/100 i will get a problem with wifi ? Or not ?
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No Issues
I have had my HOX for almost 3 months now.
I have had no issues till now.
I always get great wifi signal strength and speed.

This was a great review! Just came from the Skyrocket (great phone by the way) to the HOX....tried waiting out the SGS3 but needed a phone ASAP. Initially thought I'd just swap when the SGS3 hits stores but this one is growing on me. It has such beautiful hardware! Thanks for this info.
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HTC J Butterfly anyone?

Anyone tempted by htc recently announced phone.
Specs look fantastic. 1080p screen wow and ext sd card returns, good move.
Seen few YouTube videos and I'm really considering getting this. inmho its far superior then note 2 due its design, hardware, software, screen resolution specs. Of course you don't get s pen but I rather have superior hardware, software and screen then s pen.
What do you think guys?
I'm going to annoy plenty of people here by saying this but don't you feel cheated Samsung use plastic material crap on the back and sides. Note front looks good but htc J butterfly looks fantastic even better then iphone 5.
www.idroidhell.com/htc-j-butterfly-5-inch-display-1-5-ghz-dual-review

It does look good. The hardware is really impressive but I was a little concerned about the battery. 2020mAh is less than the GS3. I'm still gonna get the note though. If the J Butterfly makes its way to the UK with an (easily) unlocked bootloader and some custom ROMs then I MAY switch but I doubt it.
Good to see HTC back on the right track though.
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It does look good. The hardware is really impressive but I was a little concerned about the battery. 2020mAh is less than the GS3. I'm still gonna get the note though. If the J Butterfly makes its way to the UK with an (easily) unlocked bootloader and some custom ROMs then I MAY switch but I doubt it.
Good to see HTC back on the right track though.
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Absolutely, glad htc are doing something right.
If you're happy with s2 then you will love note 2. It's the only one phone I've not rooted because it works just fine as it is. No lag, crashing etc so really impressed everything works as it should.

no stylus.
for me that is enough of a reason not to get it.
I reach for my stylus all the time on my note 2.
some games even feel weird when I play them on my tablet now.

I'd need a few things for me to want to buy it:
Large battery that's replacable.
LED notification light.
2 GB of RAM because 1 isn't enough, and I know because I've had the Note and the S2, and it shows.
If it has those 3 things, then I'll think about it. Any one of them and I'm not going to even think about it.

Nope the screen is smaller that's why I have the note series because of the screen size. I have also found when htc and Motorola make phones with high spec the battery tends to never hold up well
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I already ordered the note 2, but competition is ALWAYS good.

Will stick with my note. Its just perfect.
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Good points.
S2 lacks a notification light which is annoying to say the least.
Can't comment on the RAM yet cos I haven't used a phone with more than a gig yet.
Large battery is essential. Can live without a user replaceable one but I haven't seen a modern phone with a battery large enough to satisfy me. (Remember how long your old Nokia 3310/3410 used to last?).
Actually using an extended battery in my S2 now. This thin device trend is coming at the cost of bigger batteries... Not worth it at all if you ask me.
One thing I would add to that list is an SD card slot. No slot, no sale. Ridiculous thing to omit imho.
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I come from a long line of HTC phones. They are all good but Note 2 is the only one i've used that i need not worry about it dying on me before my work is done. My One X battery last me on a working day, at most 6 hours. The Note 2 has left me impressed with over 15 hours.
Unless you don't mind flashing custom ROM to your HTC, official updates take ages so reach. That being said, i'll probably get the red HTC J for my wife

Im here in the US my biggest concern are the Radios (modems). I have had both Samsung and HTC phones. We are in 4g here I had a Galaxy Nexus and I curently have a S3. The modems on the Nexus were horible The S3 is a lot better but not as good as both my old Thunderbolt and the Rezound. HTC's radios are right up there with Moto who IMO have the best. The S3 picks up 4G most times when its strong but cant seem to hold on to it. I love the screen on the S3 but lets face it 5"s not that much bigger than 4.8"..5.5" on the other hand is huge just what my old eyes need. So what to do smaller screen or not so good Modems? Maybe Sammy made them better but I dont think so I dnt think that is one of there main concerns.

KCA. said:
Good points.
S2 lacks a notification light which is annoying to say the least.
Can't comment on the RAM yet cos I haven't used a phone with more than a gig yet.
Large battery is essential. Can live without a user replaceable one but I haven't seen a modern phone with a battery large enough to satisfy me. (Remember how long your old Nokia 3310/3410 used to last?).
Actually using an extended battery in my S2 now. This thin device trend is coming at the cost of bigger batteries... Not worth it at all if you ask me.
One thing I would add to that list is an SD card slot. No slot, no sale. Ridiculous thing to omit imho.
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I think the only thing missing is replaceable battery.
I've had to return my note 2 grey due to gap between bezel and screen so I might just wait for butterfly before I purchase again! I've had 2 with the same issue.
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