Hello guys, I noticed, after the official update to Android 4.0.3 which built-in memory of the tablet there is a folder, empty and not accessible, call usb_storage. Acer to have enabled the host with a USB cable otg and have not said anything? Has anyone done some testing?
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nobody knows anything? has anyone tried it?
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I noticed this too. Though I believe I saw where someone else posted it does not work. I am going to buy an inexpensive OTG cable to test it out. If it doesn't work, I can always use it on a future device.
i bought an OTG cable to use my skype headset and Xbox 360 controller. The OTG cable doesn't work at all on my rooted, ICS A100..... I'm kinda disappointed.
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i bought an OTG cable to use my skype headset and Xbox 360 controller. The OTG cable doesn't work at all on my rooted, ICS A100..... I'm kinda disappointed.
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Because the hardware for USB host isn't connected.
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Because the hardware for USB host isn't connected.
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So is there no possible way of developing a kernel with USB host support for use with an OTG cable?
The kernel already has host support, we just have no hardware for it.
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In short, its not working for me.
I use the Samsung usb cable + female USB to micro USB adapter to connect to the ps3 controller.
Anyone had better luck?
My adapter shipped today ill let u know how it works out.
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My adapter shipped today ill let u know how it works out.
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Where did u buy the adapter ? Last I checked it was backordered everywhere.
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clubtech said:
Where did u buy the adapter ? Last I checked it was backordered everywhere.
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Bought off amazon just searched female to female USB they have a few choices
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Do you think that will work for Mass Storage as well? I bought one off ebay for 1.49 so we can try it out. Hopefully it will come before friday morning so i can test.
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Do you think that will work for Mass Storage as well? I bought one off ebay for 1.49 so we can try it out. Hopefully it will come before friday morning so i can test.
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Didn't thought of that, I'll try it out tonight.
If you're just taking the USB cable that came with the tablet, changing it's gender and plugging something into the end, it won't work. The tablet would need to have USB Host support which this tablet does not. I believe that the Samsung USB Adapter that converts directly from the Samsung Connector to USB Female will add USB Host support (USB OTG).
Here is the USB Adapter. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EPL-1PL0BEGSTA
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If you're just taking the USB cable that came with the tablet, changing it's gender and plugging something into the end, it won't work. The tablet would need to have USB Host support which this tablet does not. I believe that the Samsung USB Adapter that converts directly from the Samsung Connector to USB Female will add USB Host support (USB OTG).
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All 3.1 are USB host. However, the female to female adapter doesn't do the trick.
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All 3.1 are USB host. However, the female to female adapter doesn't do the trick.
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Honeycomb 3.1 adds SOFTWARE support for USB Host funtionality. The device has to have HARDWARE support as well. This tablet does not. That is the reason that you need a special adapter that provides USB Host HARDWARE funtionality, such as the one I listed above.
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Honeycomb 3.1 adds SOFTWARE support for USB Host funtionality. The device has to have HARDWARE support as well. This tablet does not. That is the reason that you need a special adapter that provides USB Host HARDWARE funtionality, such as the one I listed above.
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Well that blows. I just ran down to best buy to try and grab one of these adapters but they are back ordered. Said they have no idea when they will have them next.
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I've got my fingers crossed Samsung hasn't dicked up the Bluetooth stack on the Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYtGX-PaJFY
Sorry to dig up the old thread but did anyone get this to work? I would love to play emulators on this tablet!
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Sorry to dig up the old thread but did anyone get this to work? I would love to play emulators on this tablet!
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Yes. There's a lot of misinformation in this thread. The tablet DOES have USB Host capability, but it will only enable it when it sees a specific resistor on a particular pin in the dock connector.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065 for more details.
To get USB Host, there are two approaches:
1) Make your own cable with the correct resistors
2) Purchase the Samsung USB Host adapter which is now available for around $20.
Note that there are some limitations:
1) Xbox360 controllers and PS3 controllers are not standard HID devices and require kernel support not present in stock kernels. Pershoot's kernel has the necessary modules.
2) PS3 controllers must be fully charged before trying to use them. If not they will try to charge their battery from the tab and cause an overcurrent trip, disabling the port until the USB dongle is disconnected.
Also, Samsung didn't mangle the Bluetooth stack like they do with their phones, so wiimotes work.
Not working for me
Not sure if there's a specific USB setting, but I bought the adapted and it works with Chainfire's DSLR Controller no problem. I plugged in the playstation 3 remote and had no luck, nor any detection of the device. Tried running an n64 emulator to try to map the keys, no luck there either.
All of the guides seem to be using a Xoom, I'm on the brand new OTA on the GT10.1
Anyone else?
USB Adapter for Galaxy tab 10.1
Verizon wireless corporate stores have the adapter in stock they will have to order it but last time i checked they had about 4000 in the warehouse, I hope this is helpful for those of you who are patiently waiting.
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Not sure if there's a specific USB setting, but I bought the adapted and it works with Chainfire's DSLR Controller no problem. I plugged in the playstation 3 remote and had no luck, nor any detection of the device. Tried running an n64 emulator to try to map the keys, no luck there either.
All of the guides seem to be using a Xoom, I'm on the brand new OTA on the GT10.1
Anyone else?
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Which kernel are you running? Did you read my notes in the post prior to yours at all?
So, if i get the official USB adapter my regular wireless keyboard (Logitech Wave) should work seamlessly. Right?
I've just been using the "SixAxis Controller" app from Dancing Pixel (you can find it on the Android Market) to connect my PS3 controller to my tablet over Bluetooth. It's worked great for me (note: I use yongzh's emulators)
Hope that helps with the PS3 issues...I don't really know much about the USB adapter as I don't use it.
I just updated to 4.0.2 but USB devices (mouse) are not powering up when I plug them in and do nothing. I'm using a female to make USB cable I bought from Expansys.
Where they working for you before the update?
Hadn't tried it before the update since USB host was not officially supported.
Can anyone help with this?
I tested an optical Mouse und supprise it works. But a USB Memory Stick is still not accessible. Does somebody know how to get the stick running?
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gabster21 said:
I just updated to 4.0.2 but USB devices (mouse) are not powering up when I plug them in and do nothing. I'm using a female to make USB cable I bought from Expansys.
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Are you sure you bought an OTG cable? A simple male to female adapter wont work because it is missing the grounded ID pin on the phones (=host) side. Without that pin the phone won't know it has to act as host and power the attached device.
I the USB Host cable from a SGS2. This seems to work, because the optical mouse works fine.
I'm just waiting for the drivers to connect Memory sticks or HDDs.
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gokpog said:
Are you sure you bought an OTG cable? A simple male to female adapter wont work because it is missing the grounded ID pin on the phones (=host) side. Without that pin the phone won't know it has to act as host and power the attached device.
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I bought this cable when I ordered my Nexus form expansys, it doesn't mention if it's OTG or not but it was cheap so I figured why not..
So if my Nexus cannot provide power to connected peripherals does this mean my cable us not OTG?
I have an OEM OTG from Motorola I use for my Xoom and Nikon D7K and it does not work on the Galaxy Nexus, I am on 4.01 on the Nexus
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I have an OEM OTG from Motorola I use for my Xoom and Nikon D7K and it does not work on the Galaxy Nexus, I am on 4.01 on the Nexus
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I believe 4.0.1 doesn't support OTG, update to 4.0.2 and give it a try
Hey guys. I bought this http://www.ebay.com/itm/10cm-OTG-Mi...737062?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5ae61d4ee6 and tried on my new HTC One X. It didn´t fit so I had to push on it little bit. After that I find out that on this **** product is some metal attact that I removed with my nail. I attached and force this **** to my lovely phone. Do you think I could damage the usb input of One X? Or shall I be worried? It works but I dont want to have it damaged..
So anyway, this **** doesnt work, so can you please help me to buy new micro USB to usb host adapter?
I am sorry for my english. Thanks
I dont think there`s a difference between brandings of the cable... looks like u`ve just had no luck
My one works good... used it to connect my PS3 Controller to the device.
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I dont think there`s a difference between brandings of the cable... looks like u`ve just had no luck
My one works good... used it to connect my PS3 Controller to the device.
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Are you also able to use USB storage with it?
I tried the Samsung MicroUSB to USB adaptor and my One X refuses to recognize my Xbox360 controller
The One X doesn't support USB host, unfortunately, so external storage, controllers and keyboards will not work.
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I dont think there`s a difference between brandings of the cable... looks like u`ve just had no luck
My one works good... used it to connect my PS3 Controller to the device.
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How? I though HOX didn't support USB controllers?
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The One X doesn't support USB host, unfortunately, so external storage, controllers and keyboards will not work.
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really?
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Yep. There's some discussion about it in the general area, I believe - noone noticed it wasn't in the specs, a bit of an oversight really...
i also tried reading a usb flash drive with a host cable, no luck
the same cable work with xperia s
Hey folks, im crossposting this, as i believe it didnt get the attention it'd have had i posted this in the accessories forum in the first place
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=30249692
dennisfisch said:
Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
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Still waiting for USB OTG and MHL at same time. And while I'm thinking about it, I want it all in a dock compatible with my seidio active case. How's that for wishful thinking?
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nightwinn said:
Still waiting for USB OTG and MHL at same time. And while I'm thinking about it, I want it all in a dock compatible with my seidio active case. How's that for wishful thinking?
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I don't see why you would feel the need to ridicule me for bringing up this thread. it's not wishful thinking, seeing as even the wikipedia entry on MHL clearly states it should be possible. There is also a blog entry on the exact same topic and even the movement to boycott samsung accessories have stopped because of this: http://www.galaxymhl.com/
I don't really understand why people aren't looking into this more.
I'm not ridiculing you. I want the same thing. What I said was my legitimate wish list. I haven't bought the mhl adapter because I'm holding out for an all in one solution. I'm still waiting on Samsung to give us a product that does mhl and otg simultaneously.
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I'm not ridiculing you. I want the same thing. What I said was my legitimate wish list. I haven't bought the mhl adapter because I'm holding out for an all in one solution. I'm still waiting on Samsung to give us a product that does mhl and otg simultaneously.
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I'm sorry, i must have gotten that wrong. I find it very confusing Samsung do no release enough information on this in order to make it work. Neither the phone documentation, nor the official 11-Pin HDTV Adapter manual mention this in any way.
I'm waiting also for a dock with MHL+USB OTG at the same time by Samsung, I dont understand why the official MHL adapter does not support this already but I've been searching and I have not found yet any example of both working together. It clearly seems that the MHL 11 pins cable we can buy right now does not support this since nobody has tested it succesfully but what I don't know is if that is related to Hardware or it also has something to do with software. I read a couple of weeks ago that Google was thinking about using the phone as a PC via docking, I think the idea comes from Motorola? So maybe the availability of both connections at the same time is also related with android, who knows, maybe in JB it will be possible...Has somebody tested MHL+USB OTG in JB with the official adapter?
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I'm waiting also for a dock with MHL+USB OTG at the same time by Samsung, I dont understand why the official MHL adapter does not support this already but I've been searching and I have not found yet any example of both working together. It clearly seems that the MHL 11 pins cable we can buy right now does not support this since nobody has tested it succesfully but what I don't know is if that is related to Hardware or it also has something to do with software. I read a couple of weeks ago that Google was thinking about using the phone as a PC via docking, I think the idea comes from Motorola? So maybe the availability of both connections at the same time is also related with android, who knows, maybe in JB it will be possible...Has somebody tested MHL+USB OTG in JB with the official adapter?
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As soon as i get home, i will try flashing this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695562
It comes with the latest stock kernel and appearently won't boot with anything else so Samsung must have made some changes to it. In a few hours time I'll be back with information on how that worked out.
I can confirm it NOT working on Jelly Bean. The MHL adapter does provide video HDMI output, but only as long as it is plugged into an external power source. When connecting an OTG usb cable, there is no reaction at all. There has to be some way of getting the phone to power the HDMI adapter. Do any of you folks have a good link to a kernel dev who can have a look into this? There has to be a MHL modul for the USB driver. Ghokanmoral probably has more insight into this...
Summary: USB OTG and MHL work fine separately, but not simultanously on JB using a standard genuine Samsung EPL-3FHUBEGSTD adaptor.
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I can confirm it NOT working on Jelly Bean. The MHL adapter does provide video HDMI output, but only as long as it is plugged into an external power source. When connecting an OTG usb cable, there is no reaction at all. There has to be some way of getting the phone to power the HDMI adapter. Do any of you folks have a good link to a kernel dev who can have a look into this? There has to be a MHL modul for the USB driver. Ghokanmoral probably has more insight into this...
Summary: USB OTG and MHL work fine separately, but not simultanously on JB using a standard genuine Samsung EPL-3FHUBEGSTD adaptor.
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Thank you for trying, well I dont know what to think now...very bad samsung fot not giving information about it...
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I have already contacted Ghokanmoral on this and am hoping to gain new insight into this as he is a very active kernel dev.
I'm also crosslinking another thread on this subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30469240
The final result of this is that USB OTG work with the Samsung dock, but not otherwise...and that is why they changed the pins to 11. For the dock to allow for OTG at the same time as HDMI out. Does everyone agree?
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The final result of this is that USB OTG work with the Samsung dock, but not otherwise...and that is why they changed the pins to 11. For the dock to allow for OTG at the same time as HDMI out. Does everyone agree?
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I don't really know how this is accomplished with the dock, but if it works with the dock, I have to think that the same technique could be used to make it work with other adapters, too. If it's a matter of putting a voltage or a resistance across two pins, that would not be a big deal to do.
It was figured out in the thread that this was split off of.
we already found the resistor value to do it, the wiring.. everything.
Anyone try...
Anyone try a usb Y cable which will inject power over a USB and still allow for a separate device to be attached? I would post a link but i'm noob here. You can find it as "UTStarcom USB Adapter Y Cable"
The HDMI part of the split HAS to be powered...but the USB OTG does not. So...if there was such thing as an 11 pin micro usb Y splitter, then the OTG side would work while the powered MHL adapter was on. Essentially this is what the dock does.
Is it possible to create an 11 pin Y splitter? Someone needs to get one of those docks and tear it apart to see how the leads are split...lol
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The HDMI part of the split HAS to be powered...but the USB OTG does not. So...if there was such thing as an 11 pin micro usb Y splitter, then the OTG side would work while the powered MHL adapter was on. Essentially this is what the dock does.
Is it possible to create an 11 pin Y splitter? Someone needs to get one of those docks and tear it apart to see how the leads are split...lol
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You can also power the dock with a laptop dock from motorola: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33825819
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It was figured out in the thread that this was split off of.
we already found the resistor value to do it, the wiring.. everything.
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Can we have a link?
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Can we have a link?
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I think it's this one (at least the potential resistor values are on page 3 or 4)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
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hi guys. i was able to make usb otg and mhl work together just like smart dock.
full description is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142357
Is there any dock solution available that has hdmi out (via a built in mhl to hdmi converter) or at least an 3,5mm audio out? Can't seem to find one.
And btw is is possible at all to have charging/data transfer while using mhl to hdmi?
An all in one solution would be sooooo awesome, a dock with a usb otg host, hdmi out and 3,5mm line out while being connected to pc or ac. But that of course would be a kernel problem i guess.
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