will this unlock boatloader method works? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

can anybody verify this method will work on r800i?
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
and can we really still get update our phone?
thanks!

That article is BS. I used s1tool and it didn't unlock anything. It threw my phone into a boot loop instead. I did exactly what it shows there, too, to the letter.
Omnius however worked perfectly first try, using the test point.
Updating with an unlocked bootloader is generally not a good idea. Doesn't matter though since you can flash updates with flashtool without losing user data.
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can clarify the term 'BS'?
arghh really taking my time to how my phone should be modded. i waas trying to do similar as your signature, jokawild + doomkernel
best way is to refer sony website? it stat that apps like track ID and certain wont be able to use after unlock boatloader. but is these apps really useful and is a must?

talzer said:
can clarify the term 'BS'?
arghh really taking my time to how my phone should be modded. i waas trying to do similar as your signature, jokawild + doomkernel
best way is to refer sony website? it stat that apps like track ID and certain wont be able to use after unlock boatloader. but is these apps really useful and is a must?
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BS means:
[Explicit language] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BS [Explicit language]

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BS means:
[Explicit language] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BS [Explicit language]
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BS means literally bull excrement, but when used in a derogatory fashion, it indicates scorn or derision. In other words, "That article is complete nonsense."
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talzer said:
can clarify the term 'BS'?
arghh really taking my time to how my phone should be modded. i waas trying to do similar as your signature, jokawild + doomkernel
best way is to refer sony website? it stat that apps like track ID and certain wont be able to use after unlock boatloader. but is these apps really useful and is a must?
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If you don't use any apps that require DRM keys, it probably won't affect you at all.
Personally I would stick with the test point method just in case an app you want does show up and require them.
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Bunch of questions, terrible newbie

Okay. Here to learn as much as I can, if you can number your responses with the questions and add whatever you believe is best. Thanks. ^^
Bootloader:
1. Do you unlock a bootloader JUST so you can load custom roms?
2. Is the method of unlocking the bootloader on SE's website the best way?
3. Do I need to have the SIM unlocked before unlocking the bootloader?
4. What is the point of custom roms?
Rooting:
5. Can I remove the apps here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699 just by having root access? No special tools needed?
6. Are there other good methods of optimizing things like battery life specific to the xperia play?
Sim Unlocking:
7. Is there any method of doing this without a cost?
I'm on an R800x, which doesn't have sim card anything, so I'll just answer the questions I know.
1. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to install 3rd party software that overwrites the stuff that is part of the boot process. This pretty much refers to the kernel, for the Play. Certain roms, such as MIUI and CM7 require you to use a kernel different from stock, and since you need a different kernel, you must have an unlocked bootloader. As far as I know, that's the only real benefit for an unlocked bootloader, from a user standpoint.
4. There are many things that custom roms offer, as opposed to the stock your phone came with. This can range from a new UI, new apps, tweaks to system files, etc. Generally speaking, developers strive to make their custom roms operate better than stock. For more information on this point, I would suggest you check out some of the custom rom threads, just to see what they've changed from the stock rom.
5. You will need root, but you will need something with which to remove the apps. The best app to use, in my opinion, is Titanium Backup. Not only will it allow you to remove system apps, but it will also back up those and user apps, all for free. Unless you buy the pro key, that is.
6. As far as specific tips for the Play, I would recommend rooting so that you can disable the auto brightness. While auto brightness is desirable in most phones, the Xperia Play (And other Xperia devices, I think) are almost constantly shifting the brightness, to where a slight tilt of the hand can make the screen dim or brighten. I'm sure that can't be good on the battery. Generally speaking, though, apps such as Juice Defender and Battery Defender have profiles or just general settings to adjust data flow and many other options that can significantly increase battery life.
To the best of my knowledge
2. Is the method of unlocking the bootloader on SE's website the best way?
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Yes, IMO.
3. Do I need to have the SIM unlocked before unlocking the bootloader?
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No, but you can check if you can unlock following the instruction on SE's site:
1. First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
2. In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
Note that unlocking void your warranty.
7. Is there any method of doing this without a cost?
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Not that I know of.
Awesome guys, Thanks a bunch.
Unless you're really tight on space (which shouldn't normally happen if you've done the adb setinstalllocation trick and moving apps to sdcard), i would suggest freezing the apps instead of removing them especially if you're sticking with stock. This would make it a lot easier to move to the next official OS upgrade instead of a mad scramble to find the stock apps and reinstall them. The pro version of Titanium backup and SystemCleanup has the freeze function. I've freezed a lot of crap on my phone and it makes a world of difference wrt. boot time and general performance.
Unlock boot loader is very good allows you to flash custom kernel and overclock
@JulianPaul/Vabene2002: Not sure if im sticking with stock, My model is R800AT. So not sure of my options yet. Im still trying to absorb as much as I can.
Wonder if I asked some more questions if they'd be answered.
8. Is there any recovery utility WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader? Say I mess something up with my root, Can I recover back to an original ROM?
9. Can I back up my current running ROM as soon as I get my phone so that I may return it to that state?
10. If you need to change your kernel to match a modified ROM; Your current ROM wont support it, so you need to change kernel AND ROM at the same time? Otherwise your phone wont boot?
11. Any decent links for rooting an r800at?
12. Is gingerbread the latest version of android an xperia play can run and have jailbroken?
Would having root access void the warranty? I want to remove some pre installed apps so is there a way to do this without voiding the warranty?
Thanks
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Yes, it will.
But if you just recover to a stock ROM, then its like you never rooted.
Thus, warranty reinstated.
Nah, don't want to risk it yet. May never root this phone actually...
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Im going to root mine as soon as it arrives. Lol.
Not to diminish your opinion, If you dont know exactly what you're doing, it could get ugly.
I rooted my old ZTE blade but this phone is just... different. I mean it's probably gonna Get ICS anyways and if I were to root I'd probably need a very simple guide.
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SuperOneClick is about as simple as one could imagine.
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Trygon said:
SuperOneClick is about as simple as one could imagine.
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Do you know the latest version of android this works on? Looks like 2.2.2 to me.
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Do you know the latest version of android this works on? Looks like 2.2.2 to me.
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like 4.0 it uses different exploits for different versions. gibgerbreak and zergrush are 2 of them
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8. Is there any recovery utility WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader? Say I mess something up with my root, Can I recover back to an original ROM?
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Yes, you can install Clockworkmod recovery from the market, there is an auto installer for xperia. That can be done without unlocking the bootloader but you must be rooted.
9. Can I back up my current running ROM as soon as I get my phone so that I may return it to that state?
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I believe a nandroid backup on CWM would do the trick, but I am not sure. I simply made backups of everything I uninstalled so I could revert it.
10. If you need to change your kernel to match a modified ROM; Your current ROM wont support it, so you need to change kernel AND ROM at the same time? Otherwise your phone wont boot?
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Yes. kernel flashing on locked bootloaders brick your phone. and AFAIK, no custom rom except those based on stock have touchpad support.
11. Any decent links for rooting an r800at?
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I have an r800a, not sure about the differences regarding r800at, check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294129
12. Is gingerbread the latest version of android an xperia play can run and have jailbroken?
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If you keep it stock, yes, 2.3.4. There is FreeXperia rom that is 2.3.7 as well.
On the forum you will find links to ICS based roms, SE leaked and AOSP. Both are WIP, I believe.
I've read somewhere that Sony will release ICS for the xperia 2011 line around April.
pretty sure flashing kernels on locked bootloaders doesn't BRICK your phone. It won't allow the kernel to be flashed as you can't use Fastboot only flashmode (official signed Roms only )
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fma965 said:
pretty sure flashing kernels on locked bootloaders doesn't BRICK your phone. It won't allow the kernel to be flashed as you can't use Fastboot only flashmode (official signed Roms only )
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Doesn't brick as in "turns your phone into a very expensive paper weight", but your phone will not boot anymore and you will have to flash a stock rom with flashtool to recover.

[Help] I tired to root my phone but it did not work

I tried to root my phone with super onclick and it did not work. i have a xperia play (R800i) wit android 2.3.4 kernel version 2.6.32.9-perf. i Don't want to unlock my bootloder somone have any idea what to do? and do you need more info?
Have you connected using USB Debugging?
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Have you connected using USB Debugging?
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of course i am not that stupid
I was not able to root mine either so I installed CWM with fastboot, but I don't know if that's what you want to do.
Have you tried using the FlashTool?
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of course i am not that stupid
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Wasnt meant in an offensive way lol
Just I've seen a few people who've done that
Anyway, I used Root Unlocker on mine. Occasionally it doesn't work. Sure there's a way using ADB as well.....
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Wasnt meant in an offensive way lol
Just I've seen a few people who've done that
Anyway, I used Root Unlocker on mine. Occasionally it doesn't work. Sure there's a way using ADB as well.....
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i did not take it in a ofensive way i just say that kinda a stuff thats how i am
and if build number and frimware is the same thind i don't work on my build number i got 4.0.2.a.0.62
eksasol said:
I was not able to root mine either so I installed CWM with fastboot, but I don't know if that's what you want to do.
Have you tried using the FlashTool?
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I herad that can destroy your phone easier
Have you tried with the Zurgresh method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582 It's very simple indeed.
P.S. Fasboot never bricked my phone and I have used it lot of times!
from what ive heard you cant root .62, .69 firmware or above, you need to downgrade or flash doomkernel which is prerooted
there is another method which involves flashing rootxperia.zip from cwm by booting binary's recovery, but i don't know it that will work
Even though I flashed my phone from instruction, I am new to the lock bootloader idea. Is it possible to use fastboot while the bootloader is locked?
eksasol said:
Even though I flashed my phone from instruction, I am new to the lock bootloader idea. Is it possible to use fastboot while the bootloader is locked?
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No, you cannot use fastboot unless you're unlocked
Supervenom said:
Have you tried with the Zurgresh method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582 It's very simple indeed.
P.S. Fasboot never bricked my phone and I have used it lot of times!
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Tried it can you maybe give me a good fasboot tutorial?
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No, you cannot use fastboot unless you're unlocked
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Then i take back my statement.
Do anyone know if iy will be possible to root my frimware in the future?
You don't need Fastboot to use the script I posted and and your bootloader doesn't have to be unlocked.
Try the DooMLord Easy Rooting toolkit....google it...or search here in the forums....
Make sure you're not on the latest .62 or higher firmware, download doomlords zergrush one-click, follow the instructions in the thread for it. Simple.
Here, since you probably didn't search the forums properly first -_- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
And for crying out loud you DO NOT need fastboot to root, or flash (stock) roms with flashtool!!
I'm getting really annoyed with ignorant people who spread false information. If you don't know what you're talking about, if you're new to xda and can barely do things yourself, don't try to give people advice!
I can't even count how many threads where we had to clear up false info about rooting, fastboot, flashing etc. because some new guy thought he was an expert and gave incorrect info to other new members.
Why do I care so much, and why bother ranting you may ask? It's simple, really. False information leads to mistakes that can leave a poor, unsuspecting newbie with a nice brick instead of a working phone.
Make sense? I should hope so. And for the love of God read the rules before you post! They clearly state to SEARCH the forums before posting, yet it seems nobody does. I'm pretty sure the forum tells you to read them when you sign up, and agree to the terms of use..
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captain67 said:
Make sure you're not on the latest .62 or higher firmware, download doomlords zergrush one-click, follow the instructions in the thread for it. Simple.
Here, since you probably didn't search the forums properly first -_- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
And for crying out loud you DO NOT need fastboot to root, or flash (stock) roms with flashtool!!
I'm getting really annoyed with ignorant people who spread false information. If you don't know what you're talking about, if you're new to xda and can barely do things yourself, don't try to give people advice!
I can't even count how many threads where we had to clear up false info about rooting, fastboot, flashing etc. because some new guy thought he was an expert and gave incorrect info to other new members.
Why do I care so much, and why bother ranting you may ask? It's simple, really. False information leads to mistakes that can leave a poor, unsuspecting newbie with a nice brick instead of a working phone.
Make sense? I should hope so. And for the love of God read the rules before you post! They clearly state to SEARCH the forums before posting, yet it seems nobody does. I'm pretty sure the forum tells you to read them when you sign up, and agree to the terms of use..
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sorry i am on the .62 frimware and then i got the answer that i can't root. I serached first but i maybe serached bad then so i can understand if you are angry sorry again.
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Then i take back my statement.
Do anyone know if iy will be possible to root my frimware in the future?
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YOu can use flashtool, doesn't mean you will do some hardcore flashing.
The flashtool has the option to apply the zergrush method to root and is very easy to use. You can even install a more trustable busybox (1.19) for other rootie candies. (Even tought I update to 1.19.4)
But first thing I made when I bought is to unlock the bootloader, maybe don't work for you, but will NOT destroy your phone in case of failure.

Way confusing Unlocking, bootloader, Etc

okay so my phone is Xperia r800x, I've read up to 5 forums and right now lol im totally lost, So far i got to the point of what it means but as for if i can do it im confused, it says check if it can be unlocked so i followed the steps into configuration but i dont' even have it? It doesn't say yes or no or anything, So what im basically asking does that mean i have to use SE2 tool ? or could i do something else, I would like to have custom roms etc, but it says you need to unlock phone or w.e, Mine is already rooted so im kinda lost with this, a point in the right direction would be nice
also this confused me also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439474 so can i get custom roms? with this? or is this something different?
To unlock an R800x, you have to pay $24. http://unlock-bootloader.com/ is where you can contact Alejandrissimo and he can help remote unlock your device. The program he uses needs the $24, so it's not as if he keeps the money even
FYI, some roms will be for locked bootloaders, and you just need to install ClockworkMod Recovery to use them
Unlocking your R800x Bootloader has to be done via SETOOL 2 which is a paid service you pay for unlock packs or you can pay $24 to Alejandrissimo
(FREE ) Root = Root ... basically allows you to grant super permissions to the phone like removing bloatware like Skype and install Wifi USB tether apps and Overclocking and etc..
(PAID SERVICE ) Bootloader = allows custom roms / kernels to be installed / flashed ( Like CM9 aka ICS for us R800x people )
If you get both done YOU can basically control your entire phone by ruining cool new Operating systems / mods/ tweaks / cool apps
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also this confused me also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439474 so can i get custom roms? with this? or is this something different?
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Most people have found that guide to be very informative. Can you explain what was it that confused you? I would like to clarify my guide further. Thank you.
jacklebott said:
To unlock an R800x, you have to pay $24. http://unlock-bootloader.com/ is where you can contact Alejandrissimo and he can help remote unlock your device. The program he uses needs the $24, so it's not as if he keeps the money even
FYI, some roms will be for locked bootloaders, and you just need to install ClockworkMod Recovery to use them
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okay whoo my mind was a whirl thanks a bunch, and yea i will do that but hes busy lol i can never get a session already requested, kinda a butt pain when i work diff schedules. But man was i lost for a few hours @[email protected] i am thankful for clarification
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Most people have found that guide to be very informative. Can you explain what was it that confused you? I would like to clarify my guide further. Thank you.
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the guide was fine it was just, i was mixed with diff google site links, information on here about other questions which threw me off your guilde, But your guild was very clear cus im using this method right now bwhahaha i wanna try to flash to CM the latest but derp gota unlock your phone of course. In the end all was carlified and all was good, gota find someone to unlock this thing <.< oh another question if someone would answer
I downloaded or bought i would say the rom toolbox and rom manager is it bad to have both? from app market? just wondering cus i mean ITS A MUST HAVE APP!
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Unlocking your R800x Bootloader has to be done via SETOOL 2 which is a paid service you pay for unlock packs or you can pay $24 to Alejandrissimo
(FREE ) Root = Root ... basically allows you to grant super permissions to the phone like removing bloatware like Skype and install Wifi USB tether apps and Overclocking and etc..
(PAID SERVICE ) Bootloader = allows custom roms / kernels to be installed / flashed ( Like CM9 aka ICS for us R800x people )
If you get both done YOU can basically control your entire phone by ruining cool new Operating systems / mods/ tweaks / cool apps
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awwww sweeeeettttnessss

[Q] In need of guidance :)

Hello, and sorry for bugging everyone, but I have somewhat of a problem. I'll just start from the beggining.
First of all I own a SGS II, so I'm used to flashing roms and kernels custom stuff and all...on that. My girlfriend is the one who owns a Xperia Arc S (LT18a, US version if it's relevant or not). And for the live of me, I can't summon the courage to flash it, the process being somewhat different than the flashing of a S2. That's just idiot proof in my opinion, can't go wrong. I'm seeing all over the place guides and stuff for flashing a Xperia Arc S, and don't really know wich one is good/bad etc. So...the actual questions :
1. Where can I find the stock firmwares for Xperia Arc S ? I was hopping on a website something like sammobile for samsung, where I can find every release etc.
2. She now has 2.3.4 (I think not 100% sure) build 4.0.2.A.0.62 and from what I heard that cannot be rooted, or it involved something like unlocking the bootloader or something like that, safe to say that kinda freaked me out a bit.
3. I'm guessing that this build 62 is like on my samsung, where different stock rom's are differentiated by letters (eg. XXLPG, XWLPQ etc) so, someone please confirm that.
4. Is there any noticeable difference between these gingebread builds, cause if build 62 can't be rooted, I'll downgrade to previous build that can be more easily rooted.
5. I really need a idiot proof guide to flashing this thing. She has no warranty on it and I really don't want to mess it up
6. And last (finally, I know ) some links for safe versions of flashtool (equivalent of odin from what I understand) and firmwares, stuff I need to root it etc.
I apologise for such a long post but this stuff is pretty overwhelming for me. Also I apologise for spelling errors (english is not my first language)
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OK, here's a quick run-down of how it works.
Firstly the bootloader thing: -
The bootloader is where the "kernel" sits. If you unlock the bootloader then you can pretty much put anything on the phone.
You can flash a custom kernel, and from there on you can use ClockworkMod recovery the same way you do on your Samsung.
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custom kernels have ClockworkMod recovery built into them since the XPERIA doesn't have a "/recovery" partition for the standard ClockworkMod recovery.
If that didn't make sense then here's a translation "There's no special space for CWM recovery on Sony phones! So custom kernels have CWM recovery built in for easy access."
When one of these kernels starts up the phone there's a point where the hardware buttons light up, and the LED flashes purple. If you press "volume down" at this point then the kernel starts up ClockworkMod recovery instead of booting the phone.
Most roms come with their own kernel that you can use like this. The XPERIA is different to the SGS phone because you can't flash a kernel from the phone itself. You need an unlocked bootloader and fastboot to flash a kernel.
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So unlocking the bootloader is a good idea, but only after you've made a backup of all your stuff off the memory card.
Here's a really good thread that brings together all sorts of pieces of information that you might need to root the phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653188
OK, so that's the unlock thing, and the kernel thing. Once the kernel has CWM recovery built in you can pretty much flash any rom you feel like flashing. There are already some JellyBean roms out that are fast and usable if you're prepared to read up on them and experiment a bit.
Next thing is the "BaseBand". This is the driver for the "cell phone radio". The part of the hardware that's actually responsible for behaving like a phone
Here's a thread where you can get all of the different base-band versions: - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688049
Personally I know that base-bands 72 and 77 both work perfectly. Since they are the 2 newest versions you can choose which-ever one you want. The newer basebands give much better signal strength on the phone, and the call quality is really good.
Good luck with the experimenting - hope you enjoy.
Are you looking to upgrade her arc to ics? It is much easier to find the resources if that is the case
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navras1719 said:
I can't summon the courage to flash it, the process being somewhat different than the flashing of a S2. That's just idiot proof in my opinion, can't go wrong.
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So is flashing on the Arc/S, so long as you can read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304634
Thanks for taking the time to answer such a long and frankly, annoying post Seems I got a bit of homework, manny things to read, so...coffee and patience Hope everything will add up nicely
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Are you looking to upgrade her arc to ics? It is much easier to find the resources if that is the case
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Not really, from what I hear ICS dumbs down the phone sort of speak. Now I really can't say, but I would test it out a bit, as long as I learn how to go back to GB.
Another thing that I'm a bit concerned is that all the stuff I find are for LT18i and my gf's phone is a american model LT18a. Will this be a problem ? Or that's just to differentiate the hardware stuff in them ? I hope flashing a LT18i firmware doesn't screw anything up
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Not really, from what I hear ICS dumbs down the phone sort of speak. Now I really can't say, but I would test it out a bit, as long as I learn how to go back to GB.
Another thing that I'm a bit concerned is that all the stuff I find are for LT18i and my gf's phone is a american model LT18a. Will this be a problem ? Or that's just to differentiate the hardware stuff in them ? I hope flashing a LT18i firmware doesn't screw anything up
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Yep, the differentiating factor is the hardware. the lt18i and lt18a roms are the same as far as I know. ICS does tend to be more resource heavy especially on the arcs but downgrading back to GB is basically the same method as flashing the ICS, just with another rom.
And also, in response to your first post, you can downgrade to the rootable build of GB, root that, and then flash the build 62 kernel back onto your phone so it's rooted and of the desired build
There's a lot of flashing guides on youtube regarding the arc s. I did a quick search and this one seemed pretty accurate and straight to the point.
Ok I pretty much understood the whole shabang, my last question is about the bootloader, if I unlock it once that's it ? I can flash whatever I want and not need to reunclock it...sort of speak. I read that for warranty reasons it can be relocked but that's not the case for me. Also for flashing a stock rom is it necessary to unlock the bootloader or that's just for rooting ?
Oh and almost forgot...if I understood right...I can downgrade...root...then upgrade to 62 and it will still be rooted ? On my samsung if it'a rooted and I flash abother stock rom...bye bye root, so pretty weird for me. Thank you again, I can't stress enough how helpfull you guys were.
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unlocking the bootloader allows a whole lot more things to be done with the arc, but does make some apps defunct such as track id and music facebook like (which many can do without). flashing and/or rooting a stock rom doesn't need an unlocked bootloader because it's stock and yep, you can downgrade/upgrade, root, and then go back to what build you want by flashing a kernel only
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unlocking the bootloader allows a whole lot more things to be done with the arc, but does make some apps defunct such as track id and music facebook like (which many can do without).
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That only applies if you use the official method to unlock, use SETool and you'll retain DRM.
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That only applies if you use the official method to unlock, use SETool and you'll retain DRM.
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Thanks for the clarification. I never knew much about bootloaders and all that
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That only applies if you use the official method to unlock, use SETool and you'll retain DRM.
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If you could help me out with a SETool link and a basic set of instructions that would be awsome
LE: From what I've seen there are 2 versions of SETool and one's free the other is not. Can the free version be used to unlock the bootloader or do I have to get the full version ? Or even simpler, is there anyway to unlock it (LT18a) free and without losing DRM ?
XperienceD said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304634
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So basically from what I read there, no way for free unlock and retain DRM.
navras1719 said:
So basically from what I read there, no way for free unlock and retain DRM.
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Follow the instructions up to the point just before patching and tell me what it says please?
if you unlock the bootloader NEVER UPDATE OVER THE AIR this will brick the phone.
The're 2 ways to unlock bootloader
1 via Sony web site but this only works for non branded phones,
2 is to pay if you use a service with setools this will unlock bootloader and make phone SIM free.
Xda member jinx13 offers this service contract him for more info.
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zolaisugly said:
2 is to pay if you use a service with setools this will unlock bootloader and make phone SIM free.
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If SETool can unlock any handset I'm not sure why the S1Tool wouldn't, has anyone confirmed in the thread it doesn't work for the Arc S?
XperienceD said:
If SETool can unlock any handset I'm not sure why the S1Tool wouldn't, has anyone confirmed in the thread it doesn't work for the Arc S?
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Since my bootloader was opened the setools has been upgraded to setools2 which now covers more phones but not sure which.
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XperienceD said:
Follow the instructions up to the point just before patching and tell me what it says please?
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I'm sorry but what are you refering to ? The process that involves opening the backcover under the battery ?
Some additional info, it's not carrier branded, not sim locked...and using the service code in the dialer says bootloader unlockable : yes
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Should have had this done already.
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[Q] Want to help me pick a ROM for my new Play? :D

Howdy folks. Just got an Xperia Play in the mail today! My previous phone was a Dell Streak, and while I enjoyed it, this is a refreshing change so far.
Anyways, I was wondering if you'd like to help me pick out a ROM, or at least whether I should go with Gingerbread or ICS. Here are a few things that matter to me:
1. I'd like it to be stable. I tried out about a dozen Streak roms, and while it was fun, it seemed that having the latest and greatest wasn't always stable, and got frustrating at times. I definitely wouldn't mind sacrificing a few bells & whistles for added stability.
2. I'd like it to perform well. Being able to overclock it a tad would be nice, but I don't feel like I need to have the most l33t benchmarks on this forum either. Though, I'd be happy to sacrifice bells & whistles for great performance.
3. Battery Life. This probably has more to do with how much I overclock it, and which kernel I use, but I'd like the phone to be able to last a full day of heavy use. From reading reviews about the phone, it sounds like I probably won't have to worry about this at all, so this point might be moot.
4. Full gamepad functionality. After reading the forums all day, I got the impression that ICS didn't have full gamepad functionality. Maybe this point is moot too, but I honestly saw so many inexplicit posts on this subject that I couldn't say.
Anyways, I think that covers it. I made this post longer than it needed to be, but I like being explicit. Maybe I should just try out all the major roms myself, and write reviews about them in this fashion.
I'd love to hear what you guys think, THANK YOU!!
TL;DR aka too much jibber jabber:
I'm looking for a rom/kernel combo that is stable, performs well, and I don't mind it being a bit stripped down
If I had to choose now, it seems like the Gingerbread releases give you better stability and performance, and don't have limited functionality. So many roms!
PS> I have the R800a, and am not afraid to do nitty gritty things to install a new rom
My recommended Rom&Kernel combo is in my sig, with links even. Needs an unlocked bootloader for the kernel though
jacklebott said:
My recommended Rom&Kernel combo is in my sig, with links even. Needs an unlocked bootloader for the kernel though
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I like the way that looks, I'm giving it a shot!
I've completed the following steps:
1.Flash firmware 4.0.2.A.0.58 Enhanced via Flashtool.
2.Root the firmware via Flashtool.
3.Install CWM Recovery.
but when I get to step 4..
4.Reboot phone and press [vol+] on boot at the Sony Ericsson logo, when the notification LED turns Blue.
It doesn't boot into recovery mode. I've tried each volume key, the search key, and the back key and none of them are working.
Also, my phone doesn't even have a notification LED! It's a white R800a, so maybe that's why, not sure.
Anyways, thanks for the suggestion, and if anybody knows what i'm goofing up on i'd be happy to try some new things, Thanks!
You need a custom kernel, or ClockworkMod Recovery installed from the market, to boot into recovery. Did you make sure to install recovery first?
jacklebott said:
You need a custom kernel, or ClockworkMod Recovery installed from the market, to boot into recovery. Did you make sure to install recovery first?
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ah there we go, thanks! I got clockworkmod installed, and installed NXT Light, and am now trying to install the lupus kernel. When I go to flash it in fastboot mode, I get the error "FAILED (remote: the device must be rooted first)".
This is a bit strange, because I've got superuser installed properly, and have had root access for everything else.
Thanks again,
Brian
Like I said in my earlier post, you need an unlocked bootloader to install a custom kernel (btw if you want to say thanks, just click that "thanks" button )
EDIT: http://unlock-bootloader.com/ is a good site to unlock the bootloader (for a price, since you have an R800a and can't unlock it via the official method). Though I hear he doesn't respond much, and it's easier to reach him on his Google Talk
jacklebott said:
Like I said in my earlier post, you need an unlocked bootloader to install a custom kernel (btw if you want to say thanks, just click that "thanks" button )
EDIT: http://unlock-bootloader.com/ is a good site to unlock the bootloader (for a price, since you have an R800a and can't unlock it via the official method). Though I hear he doesn't respond much, and it's easier to reach him on his Google Talk
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Before I did any of this, I did *#*#SERVICE#*#* to check if my bootloader was unlocked, and it said something like "bootloader unlockable: yes" so i suppose that didn't necessarily mean that the bootloader is already unlocked. Now when I enter that code, it doesn't do anything in the new rom. I searched the forums for a while but couldn't find any solution to this.
Also, will do
Brian
Oh, if you've got "bootloader unlockable: yes" then you should be able to use the official unlock service at http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ if I'm not mistaken. Doing this will wipe all user data though, so beware! You also won't be able to use DRM dependent apps like that song search thing Sony Ericsson made. I had thought the R800i was the only version that could be officially unlocked, but you might be able to since your phone says it's unlockable
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Oh, if you've got "bootloader unlockable: yes" then you should be able to use the official unlock service at http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ if I'm not mistaken. Doing this will wipe all user data though, so beware! You also won't be able to use DRM dependent apps like that song search thing Sony Ericsson made. I had thought the R800i was the only version that could be officially unlocked, but you might be able to since your phone says it's unlockable
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Haha if only i could click that thanks button all day! I'll give it a go in the morning, thanks man
1800yolk said:
Haha if only i could click that thanks button all day! I'll give it a go in the morning, thanks man
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Lupus is now installed! I think I'm pretty much all set! I've got the swing of this now, so I'll be back to try new ones in the future, but for now this rom looks swell.
The last thing I'm trying to do is change the governor on Lupus. Still searchin the forums for where to start on that
Thanks again!
Brian
Best is smartass V2
I'm using NXT 1.3 and Doomkernal. Maybe it's just me, but I seem to get WAY better batter life out of Doomkernal v14 vs. Lupus v5.
Does anybody know how to change the governor for the lupus kernel? Thanks!
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1800yolk said:
Does anybody know how to change the governor for the lupus kernel? Thanks!
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Try No-frills CPU Control
jacklebott said:
Try No-frills CPU Control
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this is AwEsOmE! You'll always have my thanks man.

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