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I got my 3rd, brand new Desire today.
The 1st one would get really hot and reboot on me when i played angry birds or movies or used the GPS. It stared out 3 months after i got the phone.
I had the 2nd lasted 2 weeks before the GPS just would not lock at all, no matter what i did. The GPS was dead. The phone also got very, very hot not long after opening google maps or gps status.
The new one, Desire the III shell be its name, also gets very hot when i use the gps or play games. How long will this one last
This one is also PVT4, the other where both PVT1. What does this mean? also how do i tell what screen i have?
UPDATE: 07/03/2011
so after trying almost every ROM and kernel for the Desire i have found that i still have issues with the phone. I can not use setcpu and, like my original desire, i have random reboots when using the GPS.
Setcpu
I can not install the app at all. As soon as its installed i have app crashes.
I am not trying to OC here. A few 100Mhz is not a great deal anyway and with most ROMs Quadrant scores around 1100-1250 at stock, what ever that means. I wanted to use setcpu to take the min clock down to 1xxMhz when the phone is not used to save battery.
GPS
Same as the 1st phone. It get very, very hot and randomly reboots. This can happen in as little as 3min or xxmin.
I have a brand new htc battery, came with the phone, and no gel/hard/cover.
Can i really be this unlucky
The ship with the following
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: [email protected] #2
Build:2.33.161.2 CL284385 release-keys
Software: 2.33.161.2
Bravo PVT4
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
Do you have any case or cover on your phone that might causing heat to get trapped between the layers? Both soft and hard silicone cases can cause your phone to get overly hot. Also are you using a stock rom or a custom one? Since it may be the kernel or a overclocking tool causing the cpu to run faster and hotter than it should be, led to your phone rebooting when it gets too hot. On average how long does your phone last from full charge to dead, when not in use, could be a duff battery.
The more you use it the hotter it will get, this is normal. So long a it doesn't reboot you'll be fine
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nope, had no cover/case/gel thing on the 1st two, only screen protectors.
i only found out about ROMs when i started to have the problem with the 1st one. It was stock standard for almost 5 months. I only began using a ROMs to underclock the CPU to see if that was the problem. Ran it at 600Mhz/700Mhz for 2 months before i had had enough and took it back to a vodafone store. With original RUU
The 2nd was only ROMed on the 3rd of march. I kept it stock 1st because i was studding and did not have time to play with ROMs and 2nd because i wanted to make sure it was working. So i just used the phone while running around normally.
The day before i started looking for a ROM i had issues getting a GPS lock. The following day i could not get the gps to work no matter what i did. So again turned to a ROM/Radio to see if it could solve the problem. No luck.
Had a go at Vodafone and they said because i had an issue within two weeks of getting the phone i could change it. Luckily a store near me had stock. So here i go again, round 3.
This phone is supposed to be for my sister I have a Desire HD
mrjonnyrock said:
nope, had no cover/case/gel thing on the 1st two, only screen protectors.
i only found out about ROMs when i started to have the problem with the 1st one. It was stock standard for almost 5 months. I only began using a ROMs to underclock the CPU to see if that was the problem. Ran it at 600Mhz/700Mhz for 2 months before i had had enough and took it back to a vodafone store. With original RUU
The 2nd was only ROMed on the 3rd of march. I kept it stock 1st because i was studding and did not have time to play with ROMs and 2nd because i wanted to make sure it was working. So i just used the phone while running around normally.
The day before i started looking for a ROM i had issues getting a GPS lock. The following day i could not get the gps to work no matter what i did. So again turned to a ROM/Radio to see if it could solve the problem. No luck.
Had a go at Vodafone and they said because i had an issue within two weeks of getting the phone i could change it. Luckily a store near me had stock. So here i go again, round 3.
This phone is supposed to be for my sister I have a Desire HD
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Although in the past you might have got a GPS signal inside, I can normally only ever get a GPS signal outside, and I mean outside. I have heard about lost of problems with the Desire and GPS. The new Desire that you have is the latest release. Also the Desire always get's hot, you could boil an egg on mine, however mine has never Re-Booted due to heat...
jaaystott said:
Although in the past you might have got a GPS signal inside, I can normally only ever get a GPS signal outside, and I mean outside. I have heard about lost of problems with the Desire and GPS. The new Desire that you have is the latest release. Also the Desire always get's hot, you could boil an egg on mine, however mine has never Re-Booted due to heat...
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I always test the GPS outside/out doors for at least 20min.
Sounds like you got some really ****ty Desire's and a really run of bad luck. Luckily I have never had these issues at all. As for the PVT4 business and your screen, most likely you will have an SLCD screen and PVT4 I guess is the security for the hboot, just a guess like.
I've always thought that my Desire was really cool, like if it is just running with checking emails, using the phone, light stuff really, it never gets hot at all or what I consider hot (where you can tell the difference on the back of the phone). The only time it gets hot is when I play a game for a really long amount of time, but even still, it never gets as hot as when it's charging. I have overclocked my phone to 1190MHz and it is fine. Also my GPS is fine and works when ever, inside or out.
I guess I got a really lucky Desire or you guys are really unlucky?
I can relate to the GPS issues. When the GPS didn't reboot my phone, it took a good 15 minutes to lock.
Took it back. No smartphone for 3 weeks
*I am not a happy HTC Desire user*
UPDATE: 07/03/2011
so after trying almost every ROM and kernel for the Desire i have found that i still have issues with the phone. I can not use setcpu and, like my original desire, i have random reboots when using the GPS.
Setcpu
I can not install the app at all. As soon as its installed i have app crashes.
I am not trying to OC here. A few 100Mhz is not a great deal anyway and with most ROMs Quadrant scores around 1100-1250 at stock, what ever that means. I wanted to use setcpu to take the min clock down to 1xxMhz when the phone is not used to save battery.
GPS
Same as the 1st phone. It get very, very hot and randomly reboots. This can happen in as little as 3min or xxmin.
I have a brand new htc battery, came with the phone, and no gel/hard/cover.
Can i really be this unlucky
The ship with the following
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: [email protected] #2
Build:2.33.161.2 CL284385 release-keys
Software: 2.33.161.2
Bravo PVT4
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
I have just discovered I have this GPS reboot problem... For the first time on the weekend I decided to use the Google Maps GPS navigation. I bought a nice windscreen dock and everything...
First time it worked for about 3 minutes and then rebooted. From that point on I would only get a maximum of 30 seconds GPS navigation and then a reboot... I've tried everything I could find online about the problem including a full wipe but the problem remains...
So freakin' annoying! I guess it's going back to HTC....
Same problem here.
when using GPS for 1-xx.min the phone reboot.
Have tried every romes, radio, wipe all, formatet sdcard..
tried to caught the problem in LogCat.
I just cant find the problem!
it makes me crazy.
I think it's probably a temperature problem.
If I remove the battery and let the phone down for a while, navagitionen will work for about 10-20 minutes. if I open the navigation with the same after the reboot it will only works for 1 or 2 minutes.
OP, you are either a complete idiot and don't know how to use your phone or you are very unlucky. I think it may be the first option. I know at least 20 people with desires who have NEVER had a problem. Use it what it's meant for and stop ****ing with it.
Blert.
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john014 said:
OP, you are either a complete idiot and don't know how to use your phone or you are very unlucky. I think it may be the first option. I know at least 20 people with desires who have NEVER had a problem. Use it what it's meant for and stop ****ing with it.
Blert.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Thanks for your awesome solution! You complete IDIOT! what a nice tone you choose to write in at this forum - really mature! start helping people instead of asuming the worst of them. This is NOT my first smartphone and I do in fact know how to use it. As a matter of fact I work with developing programs for phones and other microprocessing units, and have never heard of or experienced this problem before.
Instead of complaining why don't you start HELPING people!?
Same poblem here dudes but i csj live with it. I have seen Desires that restarts themselves when surfing on internet or when calling.
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I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
Had mine for 2 weeks, HT24VW - Made in Taiwan
1. Signal and reception has been perfect might be first models.
2. Read somewhere the multitasking has been fixed with custom rom
3. Mine never gets hot, played 20 min of GTA3 and you would call it warm.
4. Screen Flickering - Havent seen any even at low battery.
Battery: heavy use i would get 3:30 on screen(using 3G all day no wifi). Medium use: i had once 4:45 but. Totally happy with the HOX gets me through one day easy and that's all it need to do, every night it goes on charge regardless if its 70% charge left or 10% charge.
Im picking up a unit with sh23 serial is that one good?
kingofthebraves said:
I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Better than Galaxy S2, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus IMO. Except from Sensation, my Desire and One X performs the best in terms of signal(wifi, data) and reception. Infact, i have data drops the most on Galaxy Nexus cuz of 4.0.4 update(omg so frustrating!)
2. This is yeah a problem i think but 1.29 update kinda fix this, generally. after 1.29, i'm having the same experience as Gnex multitasking. well that is based on my usage.
3. Heating? hmm i got this in any smartphones i own these days except tablets. My SGS2 and Gnexus got hot the most cuz they are slim. But then, using twitter and facebook never gets hot in any of my smartphones. Just heavy browsing and gaming will increase the heat.
4. I dont have screen flickering but some says the custom kernels fix them so i think its not a hardware issue.
i have a sh24 models, and btw, sold my Gnexus for the sake of One X. I never regret it.
kingofthebraves said:
Im picking up a unit with sh23 serial is that one good?
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should be okay although 23 is quite an early model.
25+ are generally considered to be more fault free but then i have a HT23 and it's fine.
I should have added i came from a G Nexus and it's (the one x) is in a completely different league. The screen alone is just simply jaw dropping.
best phone and wifi signal i've ever had on my release day (UK) HOX
screen flicker was addressed in the 1.29.xxx.11 update and has been resolved
kingofthebraves said:
I'm on the Gnexus right now and I just ordered a hox that I will be picking up tonight but after all the research I've been doing on the forums I'm suddenly unsure if I should pull the trigger. I have a few questions I hope you guys don't mind answering based on your experiences.
1. Signal and reception - Is it really faulty or are there just some units that are bad and some that are worse? I have a friend who just picked up a brand new one and lost all her signal the next day. She tried switching to other sim cards but the phone's antenna is not pickign up anyhting.
2. Multi-tasking issue - Correct me if I'm wrong but this issue has already been resolved on custom roms right? So it should work perfectly?
3. Heating problems - Again, my friend picked up hers and it gets insanely hot when using it on apps like twitter and facebook. She hasn't even tried gaming yet! 44C on the processor
4. Screen Flickering issue - Has this also been addressed by HTC? I haven't seen anyone complaining about it anymore.
That's it! I've been itching to get back to HTC because my last three phones were all samsung.
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1. Signal and reception has been perfect since day one for me, I had a Galaxy Nexus before my One X and the reception is definitely on par (can't say whether it's better or not, never done a proper test).
2. Multi-tasking was never a real issue and was only more of a mild annoyance because it was set to be far too aggresive. This was allegedly fixed through OTA's and is definitely fixed in custom ROMs.
3. Overheating can be a problem when playing games but if you're rooted you can disable 2 of the CPU cores (4 is overkill) which drastically reduces the heat problem.
4. Can't really comment on this as only the minority of users have experienced it.
The screen on the One X will blow you away after the Galaxy Nexus, trust me!
This phone craps all over anything I've had, sure it's newer better faster but it's leap years ahead of my last phone, the HTC Velocity, and that came out only a few months beforehand.
I've been running cyanogenmod on my one x for a while now and I've always been quite happy with it, until a moth ago I started having a lot of issues.It started running hot for nearly every application, i'm not talking a little how like most of us are used to with the one x, but extremely hot to the point that it is uncomfortable to hold the device. Then i tried to watch some 720p content, and it refused to play it in a decent way, either the media player crashed or it would display an unwatchable stuttery mess.
Any help on how to fix these problems would be much appreciated.
gilles3000 said:
I've been running cyanogenmod on my one x for a while now and I've always been quite happy with it, until a moth ago I started having a lot of issues.It started running hot for nearly every application, i'm not talking a little how like most of us are used to with the one x, but extremely hot to the point that it is uncomfortable to hold the device. Then i tried to watch some 720p content, and it refused to play it in a decent way, either the media player crashed or it would display an unwatchable stuttery mess.
Any help on how to fix these problems would be much appreciated.
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Wipe and reinstall ROM. I had the same issue and that helped.
Is anyone having this issue, I only installed a few apps and widgets, nothing big and now when I click my phone app, it takes almost 2 seconds before the dial pad shows up, same with messages, o was hoping this phone would be the first not to have this issue but it seems like it's an android thing, I deleted most of my apps and still it's slow, which sucks because my wife's iPhone always loads apps quick, I just factory reset and now it's back to being quick but I feel like I can't download my important apps because the more I add the slower it gets
Yup. I'm definitely getting lag. Lots of it to be honest. I'm trying to overlook it, but it's gotten pretty bad today, especially while updating Google play apps in the background.
It's also getting extremely hot on the back, specifically the rear middle, towards the right side.
not much lag to complain but yes I am also facing those heating issues..
I was first told that all phones get hot if you use them while charging but then it has happened thrice now even when I am not charging it.
The heat is pretty bad right at the end of your right thumb..
My S6 was fast the first few days then starting lagging opening hangouts and G+. I closed my open apps and helped a little. I installed clean master and it's back being fast. I have no heat issues.
This supposed to be the fatest phone but it has more lag compared tomy other phone Moto x 2015 amd Htc M8 . unbelievable
Obviously something is making lag that should be able to fix considering it didn't lag out of the box. Or am I wrong? I think I saw that a factory reset fixes it. I might try it at some point but doesn't bother me that much.
samomamo said:
This supposed to be the fatest phone but it has more lag compared tomy other phone Moto x 2015 amd Htc M8 . unbelievable
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then something isn't right, because there is zero lag on this phone..
My S6 just all of a sudden started lagging really bad. Like I had the issue where I would take a picture and would want to check it out and click the gallery app. Man that took like a good few seconds, and it was bothering me really bad. So I decided to do a master reset, and then deal with the bs that the stock messenger would not restore messages from a back up that was done 4 hours before the reset. So yet again this phone is lagging really bad. It is rooted with Nova, and for whatever reasons apps open up slow, they switch slow, and I am irritated that my 2yr old M7 worked faster then this. I have done the developer scale back options as well as Greenify and Debloater and the lag is just unbearable on this new 2015 phone. I have a possibly 70 apps, and I am just wondering what you all have done to circumvent the lag.
Good afternoon to all, I hope you can help me with this situation.
I have 20 days with the HTC 10, and I can not be more disappointed of its performance, and coming from a galaxy s6, but we go by parts.
1- the phone, it gets very hot, very fast, especially after updating to nougat 7, I mean, with 15 20 minutes of surfing on the web, it reaches temperatures between 40-44 C ° (104-111 F °) , At this temperature it is uncomfortable to hold. Is this normal ??
Taking into account that I do not play, I only watch videos, I listen to music and web, because I just did a hard reset, which brings us to point 2.
2 - It is the first time, I update an android version, and a big error appears, once updated to android 7, the keyboard stopped working (swiftkey), so I could not access it because it was protected By password, and the keyboard in the start section, never displayed. I had to do a hard reset with only 15 days of use, seriously WTF!
3- Due to the warm up, the battery life is quite poor (between 3.5 and 4 hours of screen, no play, or take pictures all day, turning off mobile data at times and wifi, is this battery drain normal?
The battery come to exhaust quickly, especially when the phone is very hot, when restarting the phone, it eats 3-5% of battery every time.
When taking photos the same, the battery drops very quickly.
4- I normally play on a PC at 60 fps, the phone when playing video on youtube, has a slight lag or "stuttering", this jumps out at me very easily, although there are people who do not see it at all, I do by The same as I mentioned earlier.
When playing video youtube on the phone, the camera movements are not smooth, there are micro-cuts to the FPS, and it is very annoying.
5- before upgrading to android 7, just install a game, "realm defense, hero legends", a very popular game on android, and felt like it was under 30fps all the time, my previous galaxy s6 handled this very smooth,
6- Points 4 and 5 are solved by activating the "high performance" option in the menu of developers, the lag in the videos disappears completely, and the games feel very good, but with the consequent increase in battery usage and Temperature, seriously WTF again.
The phone according to CPUZ has a load of 15-35% all the time without loading any application, this is normal in andrid 7 ??
The phone is in stock status, with the update of the operator, I have no ROM installed, and I have no idea how to do it, because I would not like to lose the warranty.
Any recommendations to this situation ??
THANKS and excuse my bad English.
May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.
No these are not normal. Obviously something is running around causing the CPU usage and eating the battery. Given how many problems you're having I would do a factory reset, see how it goes without installing any apps. If things get better that'll help your pinpoint the troublesome app(s). If not, a replacement is in order.
Gr8man001 said:
May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.
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Is what I was thinking. Thank you.
Tarima said:
No these are not normal. Obviously something is running around causing the CPU usage and eating the battery. Given how many problems you're having I would do a factory reset, see how it goes without installing any apps. If things get better that'll help your pinpoint the troublesome app(s). If not, a replacement is in order.
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I do not know what to have, I have a hardreset for 4 days and I have not installed many apps yet, and it has these problems.
I appreciate your comments.
Gr8man001 said:
May want to ask for a replacement. None of the issues you mentioned here and I have been using this phone for almost a year.
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I'll second that, although I've only used mine for about six months. I do admit that running Android 6 the phone did seem to get hotter than it does with Android 7.
That being said, when I'm running a game battery life does suck, and it does get warm. I think I'm about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time, but I'm also bone stock with a bunch of extra apps in the background.
Just for reference:
CID: BM___001
MID: 2PS6500
Firmware: 2.41.666.3
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atirox said:
I'll second that, although I've only used mine for about six months. I do admit that running Android 6 the phone did seem to get hotter than it does with Android 7.
That being said, when I'm running a game battery life does suck, and it does get warm. I think I'm about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time, but I'm also bone stock with a bunch of extra apps in the background.
Just for reference:
CID: BM___001
MID: 2PS6500
Firmware: 2.41.666.3
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Thank you friend, I am interested to know more about your experience with the phone, why you only had 6 months?
Could you fix some problem that he gave you?
Greetings.
I have HTC 10 for one year and several days, never had those issues.
I admit HTC storage r&w speed is slower than S6 because of emmc5.1, but mine is smooth enough.
I also recognized the battery life is shorter on Android 7.0, but it's a general issue for phones upgraded to this version of Android...Not just HTC10, Sony, Samsung etc also has this problem.
As for SwiftKey stopped working, I have no such an issue, in fact I'm a mod of SwiftKey.
At last for the temperature, mine gets 38 °C while fast charging; 42°C is max while playing heavy games.
Alpert3 said:
I have HTC 10 for one year and several days, never had those issues.
I admit HTC storage r&w speed is slower than S6 because of emmc5.1, but mine is smooth enough.
I also recognized the battery life is shorter on Android 7.0, but it's a general issue for phones upgraded to this version of Android...Not just HTC10, Sony, Samsung etc also has this problem.
As for SwiftKey stopped working, I have no such an issue, in fact I'm a mod of SwiftKey.
At last for the temperature, mine gets 38 °C while fast charging; 42°C is max while playing heavy games.
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Mine gets 40°C Without doing anything, and playing reaches 44-45 °
And it seems ridiculous, that when doing this app can not with the 60fps, for a little ball in 2D.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wt.fpstest&hl=es
Again, it reaches almost 60 FPS, activating the high performance mode.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Botwatito said:
Thank you friend, I am interested to know more about your experience with the phone, why you only had 6 months?
Could you fix some problem that he gave you?
Greetings.
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Sorry, I should clarify...
I've had the phone for about 7-8 months now (longer than I originally thought, got it back in September of last year...) and got the update to nougat about 4 months ago.
When the phone was running marshmallow, it would get warm while working on tasks that aren't CPU/GPU intensive. With the update to nougat, it definitely helped with the heat production. That's not to say it doesn't get warm... If I'm playing Rayman Classic on full brightness, that phone gets really REALLY warm. But when playing Deus Ex - The Fall, even on high brightness, it doesn't get uncomfortably warm like when playing Rayman. Also, basic tasks don't overheat the phone like they would on MM.
I should note that I typically leave power saver turned on as well. I've found it doesn't affect performance noticeably for myself. I've also had Boost+ optimise all foreground apps from the overheating nightmare on MM, and I hadn't bothered to turn it off... These could play into the heat production of my phone as well...
My time with this awesome phone has been so short due to my contract with my former service provider...
I think most of your issues will get resolved after installing Custom Rom. Infact I am in similar situation like you. I can't root my phone due to warranty. As i know for fact that in my country HTC charge huge amount of money even for small issue. After spending that much money on repair, there is no guarantee that phone will work fine cause engineers are not capable enough, maybe cost cutting by HTC. Meanwhile i would suggest select SRGB instead of Vivid display, it will surely reduce heating problem to some extent.
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