[Q] URGENT!!! Reverting back to 3UK Rom - HTC One X

I'm very sorry this is such a noobish question but i was wondering if i could get some help by the people who know what they're doing.
So far what i've done is the following
1- Unlock the bootloader
2- Install Clockwork mod recovery
3- Flash 1.28 firmware
4- Install custom rom (leedroid) + flash boot.img
5- Root phone
Now i've descovered my phone has a few issues and i am entitled to send it back for a replacement.
Could someone tell me the order of how i can undo all the above. I have a nandroid of the original rom. Do i flash that first and then go from there? I need it to be exactly the same as when i first bought it.
Links to guides would be great. Thank you for your help

ahmadcentral said:
I'm very sorry this is such a noobish question but i was wondering if i could get some help by the people who know what they're doing.
So far what i've done is the following
1- Unlock the bootloader
2- Install Clockwork mod recovery
3- Flash 1.28 firmware
4- Install custom rom (leedroid) + flash boot.img
5- Root phone
Now i've descovered my phone has a few issues and i am entitled to send it back for a replacement.
Could someone tell me the order of how i can undo all the above. I have a nandroid of the original rom. Do i flash that first and then go from there? I need it to be exactly the same as when i first bought it.
Links to guides would be great. Thank you for your help
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If you have a nandroid backup when you flashed custom recovery then restore the backup and relock the bootloader.

shadowboy23 said:
If you have a nandroid backup when you flashed custom recovery then restore the backup and relock the bootloader.
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Thanks,
Once i've got the nandroid backup done do i flash the stock recovery, then relock the bootloader?
So once thats done no one will be able to know anything has been done to it, correct?

ahmadcentral said:
Thanks,
Once i've got the nandroid backup done do i flash the stock recovery, then relock the bootloader?
So once thats done no one will be able to know anything has been done to it, correct?
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They can still tell that you have unlocked the bootloader because it will say "RELOCKED" and not even flashing the RUU for the carrier of your phone will do anything because it will still say "RELOCKED"

Would that stop a UK company from exchanging my phone for hardware defects?

ahmadcentral said:
Would that stop a UK company from exchanging my phone for hardware defects?
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I am not sure. HTC reckons we void the warranty by unlocking the bootloader. But if you have bought it from a shop they tend to just turn the phone ON and look at the problem and they should swap it for another handset or give you a refund. Sales person normally don't get into the bootloader to check out anything. They more than likely have a look at the problem with the software or hardware defects. But if they decide to send it back to HTC then you might not get it replaced.

Ok,
Thanks for your help mate
Hope it gets replaced with one with no issues!

Also forgot to mention once you have restored your nandroid backup, flash the stock recovery and then relock the bootloader.

If you have a nandroid backup when you flashed custom recovery then restore the backup and relock the bootloader.
And if one happens to be the sort of complete fool that forgets the nandroid backup because they were too interested/ wrapped up in all the adb stuff to have remembered this what does one do with a 3 phone? Are there no 3 ruus in the wild at all? None listed on the file forum place.

oisindubh said:
If you have a nandroid backup when you flashed custom recovery then restore the backup and relock the bootloader.
And if one happens to be the sort of complete fool that forgets the nandroid backup because they were too interested/ wrapped up in all the adb stuff to have remembered this what does one do with a 3 phone? Are there no 3 ruus in the wild at all? None listed on the file forum place.
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I have to admit I am such a fool. But lucky for me my phone is unbranded and has the HK 1.26.708.2 ROM which is in the list so that saved my ass. But for 3UK you might have to wait a bit until someone uploads it. I'm pretty sure it will appear sometime just don't know when.

im in a similar situation apart from i installed ARHD rom and i do have a backup of stock rom from when i installed cwm but my problem is, i flash backup and then flashed stock recovery but when i lock the bootloader and reboot i get greeted by the 1st htc logo then the screen flashes and the same logo appears but under it is some red writing that says something about being a development build and then it boots its self into fastboot but then if i unlock bootloader again the phone boots backed up stock rom fine!?
mines getting picked up on tuesday but i suppose on a plus side a courier is dropping me a replacement and taking my old one away at the same time, so unless the courier starts booting into hboot i should be ok lol

Give me half an hour and I can upload it for you.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

http://db.tt/gWPc1RMq
It's still uploading at the moment but shouldn't take long.
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daz1uk said:
http://db.tt/gWPc1RMq
It's still uploading at the moment but shouldn't take long.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Link doesn't work mate?
What's it supposed to be?

Ok guys, so today i flashed the nandroid backup but now i'm just stuck at the white HTC boot screen.
No idea what to do next?
Is it because i was on 1.28 firmware and restored down to a nandroid with 1.26? Is it because i haven't flashed stock recovery yet?
Really need help as i need this done before tomorrow UK time.
Thank You

bump.
I really need help now.
I have nothing on the root of SD card so i can't even flash a custom rom. What do i need to do to get my phone working?

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[Q] How to restore my 3 Rom?

Hi,
I have been trying out a couple of custom roms and want to revert back to my backed up 3 rom. Problem is it wont boot after restoring, I'm assuming this is because I overwrote the boot.img to use the custom roms, is there anywhere I can get the stock boot.img for 3 branded phone please?
You can get it from the RUU
Anyone know where I can download a 3 ruu?
daz1uk said:
Anyone know where I can download a 3 ruu?
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i reverted back to my backup 3 rom that came with the phone. but the problem was i needed the right boot.img. since i was on 1.26 firmware i flashed the 1.26 boot.img which i got from here
so what i did i flashed the boot.img then restored my backup and it worked. or you can restore then if it gives you bootloops then just go back into bootloader, fastboot and then just flash the boot.img from that thread and that is it.
worked for me so try it out..make sure you are on fully charged though
Can any of you please upload a full backup so I can restore to stock??
Can I still do this even if I have the latest hboot after a 1.28 OTA?
You need the 1.28 RUU (which doesn't exist) or a nandroid backup from someone on 1.28 (which isn't advisable)
You may have to stick with custom for now
EddyOS said:
You need the 1.28 RUU (which doesn't exist) or a nandroid backup from someone on 1.28 (which isn't advisable)
You may have to stick with custom for now
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What could be the issues if I got a nandroid backup from someone on 1.28?
I'm assuming it could brick my device?
bleary said:
What could be the issues if I got a nandroid backup from someone on 1.28?
I'm assuming it could brick my device?
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the best thing you could of done is make a backup of your own stock rom that came with the phone. that is what i did. i got my stock rom back up which is 3 branded and all i did was restored back and flashed the OTA update. when i restored it did not reboot. all it needed was the stock boot.img and stock recovery. and that was it it worked perfectly. so do not know what the RUU business and what it does but if you have a backup and flash the correct stock recovery and boot.img depending on what firmware your backup was you would be fine
NoobTerminator said:
the best thing you could of done is make a backup of your own stock rom that came with the phone. that is what i did. i got my stock rom back up which is 3 branded and all i did was restored back and flashed the OTA update. when i restored it did not reboot. all it needed was the stock boot.img and stock recovery. and that was it it worked perfectly. so do not know what the RUU business and what it does but if you have a backup and flash the correct stock recovery and boot.img depending on what firmware your backup was you would be fine
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I kicked myself when I done it as I jumped straight in completely forgot to backup my device first, which I always have in the past...frustrating!
Just want to get back to Three UK stock now, as sick of flashing every custom rom that is released lol
So as I have no backup and HTC/Three seem uninterested...I am screwed.
bleary said:
I kicked myself when I done it as I jumped straight in completely forgot to backup my device first, which I always have in the past...frustrating!
Just want to get back to Three UK stock now, as sick of flashing every custom rom that is released lol
So as I have no backup and HTC/Three seem uninterested...I am screwed.
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you are not screwed mate..just do as Eddy said..apologies i do not know the procedure regarding how to flash RUU but i am sure there are guides in the development section for that
NoobTerminator said:
you are not screwed mate..just do as Eddy said..apologies i do not know the procedure regarding how to flash RUU but i am sure there are guides in the development section for that
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Three/HTC have not released the 1.28 RUU mate, so if I try and use all there is (1.26 RUU) it fails as my hboot is now a newer version after the 1.28 OTA from three.
And I have no nandroid backup.
Oops.
bleary said:
Three/HTC have not released the 1.28 RUU mate, so if I try and use all there is (1.26 RUU) it fails as my hboot is now a newer version after the 1.28 OTA from three.
And I have no nandroid backup.
Oops.
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ahh then i do not know then buddy sorry
You need to wait for the 1.28 RUU mate.
Don't use a nandroid backup from someone else as all info from that nandroid backup will be for the owners device and not yours. So if you send it to HTC they'll see the serial numbers don't match up. Plus the nandroid will have personal data from the owner on most of the time.
ahmadcentral said:
You need to wait for the 1.28 RUU mate.
Don't use a nandroid backup from someone else as all info from that nandroid backup will be for the owners device and not yours. So if you send it to HTC they'll see the serial numbers don't match up. Plus the nandroid will have personal data from the owner on most of the time.
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Ah so it has as much detailed info as that, not just purely software. Thanks for the head sup mate. I will wait for the 1.28 RUU.
Do you know who is responsible for releasing them btw...network or HTC?
bleary said:
Ah so it has as much detailed info as that, not just purely software. Thanks for the head sup mate. I will wait for the 1.28 RUU.
Do you know who is responsible for releasing them btw...network or HTC?
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HTC releases them and it is up to the network to decide really when to release it due to the software i would presume that goes onto the branded handsets. which sucks really. just like say ICS when it came out. really it should of been a global release like ios for apple but due to OEM's like Samsung and htc we have to wait till they decide when to release it due to the customization they do to the updates..similar to the updates we should be getting but we have to wait for 3 to get their asses in check
NoobTerminator said:
HTC releases them and it is up to the network to decide really when to release it due to the software i would presume that goes onto the branded handsets. which sucks really. just like say ICS when it came out. really it should of been a global release like ios for apple but due to OEM's like Samsung and htc we have to wait till they decide when to release it due to the customization they do to the updates..similar to the updates we should be getting but we have to wait for 3 to get their asses in check
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It really does suck being at the mercy of networks for these updates.
As you say with iOS for example, there is one version from Apple - keeps it simple!

[Q] No ROM, No Backup, but can boot into CWM Recovery.

Hi guys.
Hoping you can help me.
I rooted my DHD some time ago, with help from this forum, and was running the RCmix3D rom.
Well I have upgraded to an HTC One X, and a friend would like to buy my DHD, so. I thought I’d factory reset the phone.
Before I did that though I did a nandroid backup through CWM recovery.
After the nandroid backup, I rebooted into the ROM, factory reset the phone, however it then just booted through the White HTC screen into a black screen with the word ‘android’ in the middle.
Now, I didn’t panic, and I left the black screen for a while, but it didn’t change for ages.
So I pulled the battery, went back into CWM Recovery, and tried to restore, however, the restore didn’t take!
So I thought I’d just download another ROM, and flash that, but THAT hasn’t worked!!!
So I’m stuck without a backup and without a ROM,
I got the DHD on day of release so I guess it had Froyo on it!
Can I just download an RUU for this device and run that or are there additional steps that I would need to perform before that?
Thank you in advance.
Greg.
TeamDraven said:
Hi guys.
Hoping you can help me.
I rooted my DHD some time ago, with help from this forum, and was running the RCmix3D rom.
Well I have upgraded to an HTC One X, and a friend would like to buy my DHD, so. I thought I’d factory reset the phone.
Before I did that though I did a nandroid backup through CWM recovery.
After the nandroid backup, I rebooted into the ROM, factory reset the phone, however it then just booted through the White HTC screen into a black screen with the word ‘android’ in the middle.
Now, I didn’t panic, and I left the black screen for a while, but it didn’t change for ages.
So I pulled the battery, went back into CWM Recovery, and tried to restore, however, the restore didn’t take!
So I thought I’d just download another ROM, and flash that, but THAT hasn’t worked!!!
So I’m stuck without a backup and without a ROM,
I got the DHD on day of release so I guess it had Froyo on it!
Can I just download an RUU for this device and run that or are there additional steps that I would need to perform before that?
Thank you in advance.
Greg.
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Greg, Factory reset only works when you are stock. As you were running a custom rom, you have just deleted the rom from your phone. You will need to flash a RUU to revert it to stock.
I don't actually know why you couldm´t flash a custom rom, but it should work as long as you are S-OFF.
glevitan said:
Greg, Factory reset only works when you are stock. As you were running a custom rom, you have just deleted the rom from your phone. You will need to flash a RUU to revert it to stock.
I don't actually know why you couldm´t flash a custom rom, but it should work as long as you are S-OFF.
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Doh!
Cheers Brother.
The reason is that I'm not sure the new user would be ok with teh extra finctionality, and I'd worry they much it up (Much like I have done)
I still con't quite understand why it wouldnt flash a new ROM though
Ok.
When flashing an RUU, can I do that from the boot loader?
cheers for yor help.
Greg.
TeamDraven said:
Doh!
Cheers Brother.
The reason is that I'm not sure the new user would be ok with teh extra finctionality, and I'd worry they much it up (Much like I have done)
I still con't quite understand why it wouldnt flash a new ROM though
Ok.
When flashing an RUU, can I do that from the boot loader?
cheers for yor help.
Greg.
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Yes, you have two choices, or do it in the PD98IMG.zip way or flash it in fastboot. If you are S-OFF, you can flash any RUU, but I suggest and unbranded one. Don't flash a Froyo RUU or you will be in troubles.
On how to flash a RUU from fastboot, check the guide in my signature....:good:
Ok dude. I hear you.
Could you give a brief explanation on why the Froyo RUU would be bad?
Cheers brother.
Love your Avi.
Greg.
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TeamDraven said:
Ok dude. I hear you.
Could you give a brief explanation on why the Froyo RUU would be bad?
Cheers brother.
Love your Avi.
Greg.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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If you are using a Gingerbread hboot and flash a froyo RUU then your hboot will work in super slow motion and might take half an hour to boot. And belive me fixing that is not easy nor fun...
Were you able to flash a ruu??
Hey dude.
Not tried yet, munching dinner and watching some Sons of Anarchy at the moment.
Will let you know ow how it goes though.
Greg.
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Ok here a photo of the bootloader.
So as you can see I have S-off
Just need to find the right RUU.
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glevitan said:
If you are using a Gingerbread hboot and flash a froyo RUU then your hboot will work in super slow motion and might take half an hour to boot. And belive me fixing that is not easy nor fun...
Were you able to flash a ruu??
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Hey dude.
Another few questions,
1) How do I know if I am using a GB hboot? Would a new hboot have been written when the GB OTA update came?
2) How can I tell whuch RUU is a GB RUU without the name being in the title of the RUU?
I.e. RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.zip​
Thank you again.
Greg.
Oh, and I think I have found out why I can't flash a different ROM like ARHD, I'm using CWM recovery, the instructions for ARHD state that you are only to use EXT4 recovery.
Bum!
Greg.
TeamDraven said:
Oh, and I think I have found out why I can't flash a different ROM like ARHD, I'm using CWM recovery, the instructions for ARHD state that you are only to use EXT4 recovery.
Bum!
Greg.
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That shouldn't be the issue. Anyway, try flashing a Ruu And see what happens. I will find an unbranded one one that works for You. Try this one And report back.
http://https://www.dropbox.com/s/9xv5utzgvr4ov55/PD98IMG-GB2.zip
Cheers dude.
Just downloaded it.
Do I need to rename the file to just "PD98IMG.zip" and drop the "-GB2" ?
Cheers.
Greg.
Yep.
I needed to rename it.
Flashing it now.
Cheers.
Greg.
Dude.
Thank you for all your help.
It's all up and running Stock, just running the OTA update.
Thank you brother.
Greg.
TeamDraven said:
Dude.
Thank you for all your help.
It's all up and running Stock, just running the OTA update.
Thank you brother.
Greg.
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Glad you made it...enjoy!
no rom, no backup
hi Guys,
I got same problem...No Rom, No Backup, but can boot into CWM Recovery, but my DHD is S-ON..
Hope, you can help me, thanks in advance
alpsdhd said:
hi Guys,
I got same problem...No Rom, No Backup, but can boot into CWM Recovery, but my DHD is S-ON..
Hope, you can help me, thanks in advance
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I really don't understand in all of that, but I just went through a very long process of rooting my phone etc.
and one of the million things I stumbled upon was this time I flashed a rom using CWM and the rom was corrupted..
I was thankful that CWM had the option to connect the phone via usb storage, [hard drive thing, so you could transfer files from comp to dhd]
So I just downloaded the rom again and placed it on the phone and flashed it using CWM.
I guess it might help you since you have CWM [and if you have CWM I guess you're rooted?] so you might try flashing a non-stock rom.
But I'm not deep into this stuff and don't really know, so you can try but I'm not sure it'll work.
no rom, no backup
YagFrazier said:
I really don't understand in all of that, but I just went through a very long process of rooting my phone etc.
and one of the million things I stumbled upon was this time I flashed a rom using CWM and the rom was corrupted..
I was thankful that CWM had the option to connect the phone via usb storage, [hard drive thing, so you could transfer files from comp to dhd]
So I just downloaded the rom again and placed it on the phone and flashed it using CWM.
I guess it might help you since you have CWM [and if you have CWM I guess you're rooted?] so you might try flashing a non-stock rom.
But I'm not deep into this stuff and don't really know, so you can try but I'm not sure it'll work.
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Thanks for the reply, I think my phone is rooted, but my problem is, it is S-ON, with that, I got difficulties of finding the right ROM.. I tried this..
install clockworkmod recovery wipe all data factory reset install that custom rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=blackout+2+3+
DO NOT BOOT THE PHONE GO IN BOOTLOADER
open zip and take boot.img go in bootloader in fastboot and open cmd
fastboot flash boot boot.img
boot the phone and then close it go in bootloader and relocked
install official ruu
RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.6 0.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed.exe
got no success co'z I can't download the boot.img from this link http://www.villainrom.co.uk/kendon/dhd/boot.img and from this link http://minus.com/mIc6tkSGg/, so after I flash blackout+2+3+ I'm still stuck in white screen with HTC logo

[Q] HTC One X - back to stock for warranty - no service or wifi

So my HTC One X is having issues were the screen sometimes just does't turn on at all (stays black) it started of with massive graphical artifacts all across the screen and now it will turn on from time to time but is not very reliable.
I had Cyanogenmod installed and from what I have read I had to get it back to stock to receive warranty. I had a backup from before installing cyanogenmod, so I just ran a restore on it and the phone now has the old HTC Sense, however it will not connect to any network and will not turn the Wi-fi on for some reason.
My questions are the following.
Do you think I need to get the network/wi-fi working again to receive repairs under warranty ??
Here is the phones' current state : (See image file in attachements)
With android 4.1.1 htc sense. Apart from re-locking the bootloader and flashing the old recovery software do I need to do anything else to get the warranty repairs ?
Thanks in advance!! Ask me anything if needed, will answer asap.
Did you flash the boot image for the backup
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Not sure if I have to be honest, but then wouldn't the phone just get stuck on a boot loop if the boot img was incorrect ?
If you are not sure you didn't .... Flash the boot.img from the nand, make a full wipe and restore the nand.
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!! :highfive:
I just assumed that if the phone was starting that I didn't have too flash the boot.img.
I have followed this guide androidauthority.com/one-x-revert-stock-recovery-76854/
to get the stock recovery back on the phone.
Do I need to do anything else other then re-locking the bootloader for the warranty repairs to go through fine ?
Also as far as I know it will say that the bootloader is "Relocked" not that it is "Locked" does that matter ?
We can't make it locked only relocked. If it's hardware issues they should provide warranty just fine. But we can't tell that for sure
Mr Hofs said:
We can't make it locked only relocked. If it's hardware issues they should provide warranty just fine. But we can't tell that for sure
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How can I check what recovery I have installed. I can't reboot the phone into recovery mode as it never displays anything on the screen when I try and do that (probably due to the hardware issue that I am having), is there and adb or other command that I could use for this ?
Give the outcome of fastboot getvar version-main
Mr Hofs said:
Give the outcome of fastboot getvar version-main
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C:\Android\sdk\platform-tools>fastboot getvar version-main
version-main: 4.18.401.2
finished. total time: 0.006s
Also I still have the SuperSu app installed but I no longer have root access so I can't delete it now. Should I just leave it ?
Flash this one over and it's fine
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0kko0c304992w7/Stock recovery 4.18.img
And yes delete the su , always good to do
Mr Hofs said:
Flash this one over and it's fine
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0kko0c304992w7/Stock recovery 4.18.img
And yes delete the su , always good to do
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Got an issue, now that it's 4.2.2 there doesn't seem to be a way of rooting your device and I can't go back to the older version since I have stock recovery, and can't install CWM recovery either because I don't have root access ;/
I tried using this knowyourmobile.com/htc/htc-one/17426/how-root-your-htc-one-x
to root and now phone is stuck on boot loop, damn
Ok, so I have managed to get CWR back onto the phone but now I have no way of putting the old recovery image onto the phones because of the boot loop, so I can't restore the old nandroid.
Wait.....you got your stock backup ? Enter the recovery, make a full wipe and restore the nand.
Mr Hofs said:
Wait.....you got your stock backup ? Enter the recovery, make a full wipe and restore the nand.
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Right I got rid of everything and flashed the recovery img you linked too, but when I try to go into recovery through the bootloader I get a red triangle with an exclamation mark. I might just leave it like that or is that an issue ? OTA works fine.
What you see there is the warning sign of the stock recovery
Mr Hofs said:
What you see there is the warning sign of the stock recovery
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Once again thanks a lot for your help! Phone got picked up by the courier today, hopefully I'll get it fixed soon
Loruss said:
Once again thanks a lot for your help! Phone got picked up by the courier today, hopefully I'll get it fixed soon
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Hope it all will be fine ! time will tell.
Cheers

[Solved] Installing OTA with S-Off and Root

Update: Well, I took the plunge on my own, and everything worked fine. Flashed firmware.zip, went to stock recovery and flashed OTA, and voila, all good.
So I've bought an HTC device for the first time. I did S-Off and unlocked bootloader and rooted as well. Now, there's an OTA available (I have the Asia_India variant), and I wanted to ask just how would I go about updating.
Here's what I've surmised till now:
1. Revert changes to system partition or it will fail to update (I moved some system APKs, but I saved them for such a scenario.)
2. Flash Firmware.zip to get stock recovery back.
3. Install OTA normally from the notification.
However, I'm still not sure what else I'd need to do (unroot, using the option in SuperSU?), so was wondering if someone could help me out. I've made backups in Philz and TWRP recovery both just to be sure.
P.S.: I extracted the firmware.zip file from the OTA, and tried to open it, but it doesn't open in apps like WinRAR. Is that normal, with the file only flashable via fastboot?
Personally, I'd say remove root just incase it stops the OTA but others will say it doesn't matter so long as the rest of the system is 100% stock as HTC intended it
For OTA updates after having a custom recovery, just flash your ROM stock recovery (search XDA all are available) then run OTA as you normally would and then flash your custom recovery again (if you like to get root again). However personally I would not do this with S-ON device, probably it's better if you're S-OFF while doing this to avoid any problem.
I am also interested in this. What would be the risk if I do this with S-ON? Assume I flash the wrong stock recovery or do some other mistake, won't I still be able to flash my custom recovery back from fastboot and get everything back up and running?
Thanks to whom will answer. :good:
Black Antitoon said:
I am also interested in this. What would be the risk if I do this with S-ON? Assume I flash the wrong stock recovery or do some other mistake, won't I still be able to flash my custom recovery back from fastboot and get everything back up and running?
Thanks to whom will answer. :good:
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So long as the phone still boots to fastboot, yes (although unlocking the boot loader will delete any backups so make sure you backup the backup to your PC before doing anything else!)
Thank you for your answer. As far as you know, being S-ON, is there really any kind of mistake one can do to brick the phone so that it doesn't even boot to fastboot?
Also, if my bootloader is already unlocked, no data wipe is going to happen again flashing a firmware/OTA in any predictable case, right?
Once again, thank you or anybody else who knows the answer.
By the way, are there any FAQs answering these questions? There are some FAQs here and there, but none seems to be very clear on these matters.
Black Antitoon said:
Thank you for your answer. As far as you know, being S-ON, is there really any kind of mistake one can do to brick the phone so that it doesn't even boot to fastboot?
Also, if my bootloader is already unlocked, no data wipe is going to happen again flashing a firmware/OTA in any predictable case, right?
Once again, thank you or anybody else who knows the answer.
By the way, are there any FAQs answering these questions? There are some FAQs here and there, but none seems to be very clear on these matters.
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If you're S-ON there's not a lot you can do to brick the phone. You could wipe the ROM and have it not boot but you should always be able to get back to fastboot. This is where S-OFF is only handy to have if RUUs are about (it's the ONLY reason I am S-OFF, it's purely for a 'going back to stock' standpoint)
Yes, if the bootloader is already unlocked then you're good to go

[Q] Is this a soft brick?

Hey guys, first post here and I couldn't find a good thread title. Hope that's not a problem
Anyways I need a little help with my m8, because I don't know what else to do.
I'll start from the beginning:
It's a One m8, bought from O2 Germany a few months ago. There were no O2 apps installed as I bought it, though.
I unlocked the bootloader, rooted the phone, flashed the TWRP recovery and the Venom m8 ROM. It was S-On over the whole time. Tried to make it S-OFF with the help of firewater but it didn't worked, so I didn't tried it anymore.
I just wanted to flash the newest Venom ROM, but to do so, I had to flash the newest firmware (Kitkat 4.4, have 4.2 right now)
So I relocked the bootloader, because that's what people on the internet said you have to do, to flash the newest stock firmware. After that I wanted to go back to Venom m8.
After relocking the bootloader, I rebooted the phone, and now I'm stuck in there. But in the fastboot mode.
Tried to enter the recovery -> can't access it
Tried to make a factory reset -> didn't worked
Everytime klick on recovery or factory reset, the phone reboots and comes back into fastboot.
Normaly you boot into hboot I think.
At the top of the screen stands:
***TAMPERED***
***RELOCKED***
***Security Warning***
I've seen the first two the whole time, but the third one is new :/
Here are the things I tried until now:
Flashing a stock ROM (it was a OTA_m8_O2___102...) I could try to find the actual link, if that helps.
Flashing a custom recovery (tried TWRP, after that CWM) Yea I already have custom recovery, but I tought it might help somehow.
Erased fastboot cache
None of these things worked. Fastboot is the only thing that works.
So my question now is, if anyone of you guys got any other idea how to solve that problem?
I really would appreciate any help.
If you need some more informations about the phone, just let me know. I guess there's missing some important informations
Sorry for the long text and if I misspelled something
EDIT: I just remembered that the flashing of TWRP or CWM didn't worked. It said FAILED: signature verify fail
Flashing of the Stock ROM worked I guess. There was the silver HTC logo on the phone. Then I flashed it in fastboot mode.
I tried to find this RUU software, but I couldn't find it :/
And "adb" in cmd also not working. It says "device not found"
Have you tried unlocking it again ?
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Oh, and what are your CID / MID / bootloader version / firmware version / etc. ?
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You're bootloader needs to be unlocked, not re-locked. Go to HTC Dev to unlock in again, just like the first time. Then you can flash a recovery.
Like said above, phone HAS to have unlocked bootloader to flash custom ROMs and recovery(which is why you're getting FAILED: signature verify fail). Can't flash custom recovery/ROMs with a locked bootloader.
Go to HTCDev.com and unlock the bootloader like before, then head over to the collection of stock backups thread(in general section) download a nandroid backup for your device and restore it. After that you can flash back the stock recovery(also in the collection thread) and just do the OTA updates until you get to 4.4.4 to use the latest ViperROM.
SunShine don't work with a modifyed custom Rom like ViperS. I flashed ARHD (or stock Rom) and got S-Off with SunShine.
Firewater don't work at all anymore so you have to use SunShine and pay the 25$ it cost.
3fiddy said:
Hey guys, first post here and I couldn't find a good thread title. Hope that's not a problem
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Its not a bad one. At least better than many thread titles that say things like "Need help". Which of course is obvious, since its a Q&A, help forum! At least you tried to classify your issue!
Although the question of whether its a "soft brick" is not a critical one. IMO the term "soft brick" really doesn't mean anything. It simply means the user just got himself into a jam and doesn't know how to recover. And recovering is usually just a matter of knowing the right simple steps. More important to whether its a "soft brick", is whether the phone is truly bricked or not. And as long as the screen comes on, this phone is virtually never bricked.
RUUs don't exist for Euro versions (only the US versions, as far as I know).
The bootloader needs to be UNLOCKED to flash anything. Either just use the previous unlock bin code and fastboot command, or go through HTCDev.com unlock process again (as previously suggested). Then flash custom recovery, and flash a custom ROM or restore a stock nandroid.
Hey guys, sorry for the late response.
I did what you all said and unlocked the bootloader again. And that was it.
After unlocking it everything works normal.
You guys are the best, I knew this is the right place to come
Even the Venom ROM is on the phone. Everything else is gone, but the ROM is there.
Alright but I still would like to get the newest firmware for the phone. Could you guys give me a little help with this?
What do I have to do first?
I read a lot about how to do this. But as you can see something still went wrong :/
On the phone is currently Android 4.4.2 and ViperOneM8 1.7.0
First thing I have to do is, to grab a Nandroid Backup with the stock ROM, right?
I did this before, but then I read somewhere that the bootloader has to be locked, or relocked to update the newest stock ROM/ the newest firmware.
So if anyone knows how to do this correctly, please let me know.
Also when I flashed the nandroid backup (my own backup from before I flashed venom) I tried to update the firmware, but it wanted to update the latest Venom update.
Is this considered as normal?
Bootloader version (Hboot) is 3.16.0.0... At least I think this is the right one.
@jkolner: Didn't know that firewater doesn't work anymore. How long is this?
@redpoint73: Thanks for the heads-up Also I didn't know that there are no RUUs for the european versions. Good to know that now.
Thank you all for your answers
EDIT: I just tried to enter the recovery and it worked as well.
Oh and when I wrote above that I flashed the stock nandroid backup and the phone wanted to update the latest venom update, I think it was because the rom was still the Venom Rom, right?
Sure it was a nanroid backup, but the ROM was not the stock ROM? Or am I mix-up something there?
3fiddy said:
Alright but I still would like to get the newest firmware for the phone.
I read somewhere that the bootloader has to be locked, or relocked to update the newest stock ROM/ the newest firmware.
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It sounds like you are trying to return to stock, and install official OTA to update firmware. In that case, unlocked bootloader is OK for OTA (no need to relock). But you need stock ROM and stock recovery.
3fiddy said:
Also when I flashed the nandroid backup (my own backup from before I flashed venom) I tried to update the firmware, but it wanted to update the latest Venom update.
Is this considered as normal?
Oh and when I wrote above that I flashed the stock nandroid backup and the phone wanted to update the latest venom update, I think it was because the rom was still the Venom Rom, right?
Sure it was a nanroid backup, but the ROM was not the stock ROM? Or am I mix-up something there?
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You are mixing something up. The point of restoring a stock nandroid, is to return to the stock ROM. It sounds like your nandroid is made while on Viper ROM, not stock ROM. Either that, or the nandroid just didn't restore the ROM properly. Make sure "system" is checked on partitions to restore in recovery.
3fiddy said:
Bootloader version (Hboot) is 3.16.0.0... At least I think this is the right one.
Didn't know that firewater doesn't work anymore. How long is this?
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Its been that way for months now. But your hboot version is old; so firewater might work, might not. Worth a few tries; as firewater is free and doesn't take long. If it still fails, you need to use sunshine to s-off.
redpoint73 said:
It sounds like you are trying to return to stock, and install official OTA to update firmware. In that case, unlocked bootloader is OK for OTA (no need to relock). But you need stock ROM and stock recovery.
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Exactly this. Alright, then I read something wrong. I thought to flash the stock ROM you have to have a relocked bootloader.
I'll search a stock ROM and recovery. Hoperfully it will work.
redpoint73 said:
You are mixing something up. The point of restoring a stock nandroid, is to return to the stock ROM. It sounds like your nandroid is made while on Viper ROM, not stock ROM. Either that, or the nandroid just didn't restore the ROM properly. Make sure "system" is checked on partitions to restore in recovery.
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This could be it. I don't know if there was already the Venom ROM in use. Could be.
redpoint73 said:
Its been that way for months now. But your hboot version is old; so firewater might work, might not. Worth a few tries; as firewater is free and doesn't take long. If it still fails, you need to use sunshine to s-off.
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Okay I'll try it with firewater again.
Thanks for your help
EDIT: After I flashed the Nadroid Backup, do I have to wipe something, like Dalvik or anything?
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EDIT: After I flashed the Nadroid Backup, do I have to wipe something, like Dalvik or anything?
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I wipe Dalvik and cache when I flash anything.
Recovery will wipe system as it flashed the ROM. No need to do so manually.
If restoring a nandroid without data partition backed up, you may or may not have to wipe user data. It might not play well with the restored ROM, but it depends on what ROM you are coming from. If error occur, wipe data and restore again.
If you are restoring a nandroid with data partition backup, it will be wiped during restore. No need to do so manually.
Alright I flashed my own stock nandroid backup. Guess I just read something wrong because I thought it will get the latest Venom Update.
Then I downloaded and installed the latest updates. Now the phone has finally Android 4.4.
After everything went good, I flashed the twrp recovery, made a Backup, rooted the phone, did another backup and flashed the latest Venom ROM.
Before flashing something I wiped everything, like you said.
All is good now.
I think now I can totally forget to gain S-OFF with firewater. But I'll save the link to sunshine. Maybe I'll give it a try
Thanks again everyone, couldn't have done it without your help

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