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Get the X now?

Is it a good plan to get the X now? It seems many people are having problems with the X atm. Was the tegra failure? I really want to use Android revolution HD so One S is out of the question.
Sent from my Desire HD
EDIT: Thanks for all replies, I now realised that this is very good phone and will go for it very soon

Nubzori said:
Is it a good plan to get the X now? It seems many people are having problems with the X atm. Was the tegra failure? I really want to use Android revolution HD so One S is out of the question.
Sent from my Desire HD
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my phone is running just great..can't tell you any problems as i don't have any!

Most of the complaints you're seeing right now about the phone are the people itself. I haven't had any problems with my phone, absolutely love it and running ARHD on it.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Yes, I think that most off people don't have problems
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And don't forget that a couple of samsung spies are among us, let you think they changed 6 or 8 times their One X because always faulty.
My poll showed 1/3 of One X have flickering bug, and many people with non-flickering screens are not voting, so let say you have 20% chance of having a flickering on grey screen and 10% of having flex (the other poll)
Just try the phone before buying

100% of people with a faulty phone will join a forum to research and complain about it.
1% of people without faults will join a forum to tell everyone how good their phone is.

vegetaleb said:
And don't forget that a couple of samsung spies are among us, let you think they changed 6 or 8 times their One X because always faulty.
My poll showed 1/3 of One X have flickering bug, and many people with non-flickering screens are not voting, so let say you have 20% chance of having a flickering on grey screen and 10% of having flex (the other poll)
Just try the phone before buying
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lol i find this samsung spy thing really funny.
I'm on the 4th device now, still got that damn flickering, wouldn't mind being a 'spy' as i'd probably make a lot better wage than i'm on now.
however I'm just a perfectionist, and i'm not going to accept a device that isn't 100% (hardware-wise) working perfectly.

Yes of course, people who have no problems won't post on every topic but those with problems will Thanks for replies, I will get the One X

Yes me too, just have to get rid of Sensation before

just bought this piece of art about 2hrs ago love it!

vegetaleb said:
Yes me too, just have to get rid of Sensation before
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I have possible buyer for my Desire HD, soon One X is mine!!

I came from a Desire HD also. Natural progression

vegetaleb said:
And don't forget that a couple of samsung spies are among us, let you think they changed 6 or 8 times their One X because always faulty.
My poll showed 1/3 of One X have flickering bug, and many people with non-flickering screens are not voting, so let say you have 20% chance of having a flickering on grey screen and 10% of having flex (the other poll)
Just try the phone before buying
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the samsung spies theory is ridiculous. I'm awaiting my second device and if it has screen backlight flickering I WILL write that it has backlight flickering and I WILL change it again. Most people don't even look for flaws as they love to spend money for the sake of spending money just to show off that they have a new expensive gadget or like apple fans or religious people they wouldn't dare to criticize their deity. I don't care about status at all, I'm only interested in having a 100% flawless phone and I am fully allowed to expect that with a phone at this price.

My only problem with HOX is the darn battery witch drops by several % every minutes when in use.
(Got it on monday)

Don't worry dude!
It's same with all the HTC I had (Nexus1,DHD and Sensation)
Playing games or watching videos will deplete battery in no time, the screen is a power monster

mertzi said:
the samsung spies theory is ridiculous. I'm awaiting my second device and if it has screen backlight flickering I WILL write that it has backlight flickering and I WILL change it again. Most people don't even look for flaws as they love to spend money for the sake of spending money just to show off that they have a new expensive gadget or like apple fans or religious people they wouldn't dare to criticize their deity. I don't care about status at all, I'm only interested in having a 100% flawless phone and I am fully allowed to expect that with a phone at this price.
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They may not work for Samsung but people will come on other brand forums to give the other product a bad name. I used to use a PC forum and any thread about AMD always got derailed by people going on about how you should use Intel instead or Apple if you used Windows.

Samsung phones are not trouble free..
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They may not work for Samsung but people will come on other brand forums to give the other product a bad name. I used to use a PC forum and any thread about AMD always got derailed by people going on about how you should use Intel instead or Apple if you used Windows.
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I don't think Samsung phones quality is better than HTC. STOP boasting about Samsung guys..
Go to Samsung service center ad you will come to know how many hardware issues, screen issues and heating issues Samsung customers are facing. People are spending their hard earned money on their favorite gadgets.. don't missguide them just to prove your brand loyalty..
Human himself is not 100% perfect, how can you expect the things made by him to be 100% perfect.. WAKE UP..

I am getting the One X today or max saturday,depends on how serious the sensation buyers are

Okay, I have ordered one x Gonna unlock the bootloader asap
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I think i'm done!

Posting in this section because posters on this form have experience with both the S4 and the Tegra 3.
Currently I own an HTC ONE S. I love the way it looks and feels in the hand, the screen and battery life is decent and when its working correctly its lovely and fast.
BUT
I hate the chipping issues and there is no official word on a solution for the black version. The Internet and signal is sporadic at best jumping from 3G to HSDP+ and often not working at all i'm also getting soft resets when browsing the internet. I also hate that it can't play 720p youtube smoothly.
I'm thinking of complaining to 3mobile and upping my tariff and swapping for a HTC One X (international with Tegra 3).
I'll get used to the size and the added bonus of extra storage will be nice. The battery concerns me a little. In work I always have access to a charger so thats ok. But at weekends when i'm out and about just using the phone for the occasional call and text and nothing else am I likely to notice a huge difference between the S and the X?
Would you make the change if you were having the same issues as me? I've had two ONE S's both with the same problems so its not just my phone.
There have been no updates for the S whereas there have been at least 2 for the X. Also the ROM scene on the S isn't great with not many releases and I was hoping to learn how to do that and have some fun tinkering.
What would you do?
Thanks for any help in advance.

If I were you I'd go ahead and get the One X because you seem to want more power to play 720p smoothly without LTE and after reading the Battery Stats thread (which includes the One X international version), I came to a conclusion that the One X has pretty decent battery life. Though I'm already biased because I literally can't sleep at night because I'm thinking about this phone, I would still recommend it over the One S also because of screen size and quality. But before you pull the trigger and get the One X, you should ask around the forums and see if anyone else is using the unlocked international version of the One X on T-Mobile and if they're experiencing similar issues.

they said they changed the process of the one s, so idk exchange it for the one s, if it doesnt work go to the one s!!!!
but i think your meant to post this in the international one x section??? yes no idk

Wrong forum, this is the S4 One X(L) section.
That being said, the S4 version is still a fantastic device.

expertzero1 said:
they said they changed the process of the one s, so idk exchange it for the one s, if it doesnt work go to the one s!!!!
but i think your meant to post this in the international one x section??? yes no idk
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you're right... I think it should be under the international One X forum.

Yeah you're probably right actually.
Apologize. Could an admin move it for me?

current One X owner, it eats h264 for breakfast and plays 1080p videos flawaless im surprised the One S can't play 720p, tegra games and the SLCD2 screen have to be seen to be believed
however we have serious list of random build quality defects right and there is a high chance you might get a defected unit, i made a poll and 28% out of 600 voters had a defected unit
im switched two phones so far each with their own set of build niggles, these devices are fresh out of the oven and HTC is yet to nail the production process
check my latest quick review in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
and hover around the general One X section to get a better idea

mardon85 said:
Posting in this section because posters on this form have experience with both the S4 and the Tegra 3.
Currently I own an HTC ONE S. I love the way it looks and feels in the hand, the screen and battery life is decent and when its working correctly its lovely and fast.
BUT
I hate the chipping issues and there is no official word on a solution for the black version. The Internet and signal is sporadic at best jumping from 3G to HSDP+ and often not working at all i'm also getting soft resets when browsing the internet. I also hate that it can't play 720p youtube smoothly.
I'm thinking of complaining to 3mobile and upping my tariff and swapping for a HTC One X (international with Tegra 3).
I'll get used to the size and the added bonus of extra storage will be nice. The battery concerns me a little. In work I always have access to a charger so thats ok. But at weekends when i'm out and about just using the phone for the occasional call and text and nothing else am I likely to notice a huge difference between the S and the X?
Would you make the change if you were having the same issues as me? I've had two ONE S's both with the same problems so its not just my phone.
There have been no updates for the S whereas there have been at least 2 for the X. Also the ROM scene on the S isn't great with not many releases and I was hoping to learn how to do that and have some fun tinkering.
What would you do?
Thanks for any help in advance.
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My advice: get rid of them and move on. Why stick w something that gives you so much distress and then feel unhappy?
That being said, if I were to get any of them, I'd stick around since they are such nice phones and I cant imagine me using Android on any other brand Sam*cough*sung*cough.
But again: it's just a phone. Dont like it dont use it.

hamdir said:
current One X owner, it eats h264 for breakfast and plays 1080p videos flawaless im surprised the One S can't play 720p, tegra games and the SLCD2 screen have to be seen to be believed
however we have serious list of random build quality defects right and there is a high chance you might get a defected unit, i made a poll and 28% out of 600 voters had a defected unit
im switched two phones so far each with their own set of build niggles, these devices are fresh out of the oven and HTC is yet to nail the production process
check my latest quick review in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
and hover around the general One X section to get a better idea
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Please don't be misleading when it comes to defective numbers, its natural that when people have defects they come search on a forum like this and when nothing is wrong they don't.
Also after years of reading these forums its clear that out of the thousands there is always a few ocd who nit pick at things that the general public would never even notice as build defects.
My One X is fine btw It's the longest I have ever gone without rooting and installing custom rom, I think because I really enjoy the stock speeds and sense UI re design ^.^

TheRiceKing said:
Please don't be misleading when it comes to defective numbers, its natural that when people have defects they come search on a forum like this and when nothing is wrong they don't.
Also after years of reading these forums its clear that out of the thousands there is always a few ocd who nit pick at things that the general public would never even notice as build defects.
My One X is fine btw It's the longest I have ever gone without rooting and installing custom rom, I think because I really enjoy the stock speeds and sense UI re design ^.^
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i opened more One X than you can ever dream of, i crossed 15 One X so far
latest issue? dust under the screen in three at least
you are the one being misleading and fooling yourself and yes we have one perfect flawless one x and its really a piss off when it so hard to find one like it

One x is brilliant if you get a good one, but it is a lottery. Who did you replace the phone with for 15 times
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA

Dust would drive me insane! The chipping issue on the ONE S is not good at all.
The phone plays 720p fine in a dedicated media player but it does not like 720p in youtube in the browser.
I do like my ONE S just wish it would work properly (internet and MAO coating).

hamdir said:
i opened more One X than you can ever dream of, i crossed 15 One X so far
latest issue? dust under the screen in three at least
you are the one being misleading and fooling yourself and yes we have one perfect flawless one x and its really a piss off when it so hard to find one like it
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The Previous poster is right, It's you who is being misleading.
I believe the defective unit rate would be more like >10% (Still bad), Remember people like to complain more than they like to praise, hence why you'd see a disproportionate amount of negative results.
also, I find it hard to believe you're on your 15th one X?!
Why not Give up at your 3rd?

hamdir said:
i opened more One X than you can ever dream of, i crossed 15 One X so far
latest issue? dust under the screen in three at least
you are the one being misleading and fooling yourself and yes we have one perfect flawless one x and its really a piss off when it so hard to find one like it
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Not to say that dust under the screen isn't a defect, and it would definitely drive me crazy, but I would be surprised if my girlfriend would notice any of the build defects that people return one x's for.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Basil3 said:
Not to say that dust under the screen isn't a defect, and it would definitely drive me crazy, but I would be surprised if my girlfriend would notice any of the build defects that people return one x's for.
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I actually don't what to thank your post but the app I'm using is to damn sensitive. Sorry.

Whoa, thanks revoked! That's pretty harsh, lol!!
I'm with basil3...to any of us here, the most minute little inconsistency will drive us mad and we will post and ***** and moan about it all day long, but to most people, such things don't even compute. It's the same reason "most people" buy iPhones...they just don't know any better and any old POS will do.
Fwiw, I also have a perfect OneX. Still stock and brilliant in every way. I also find it difficult to believe someone would keep going back to something that they found defective fifteen times...

get the XL if you are on tmobile..if you buy the international version you will be stuck with edge unless you live in an area that tmo has refarmed their 1900 spectrum to handle 3G (which I doubt it)

Basil3 said:
Not to say that dust under the screen isn't a defect, and it would definitely drive me crazy, but I would be surprised if my girlfriend would notice any of the build defects that people return one x's for.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Absolutely spot on
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TommUK said:
The Previous poster is right, It's you who is being misleading.
I believe the defective unit rate would be more like >10% (Still bad), Remember people like to complain more than they like to praise, hence why you'd see a disproportionate amount of negative results.
also, I find it hard to believe you're on your 15th one X?!
Why not Give up at your 3rd?
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lol your kidding me right....im on my 2nd personal One X and my 15th unbox for buyers, friends, which i convinced them to buy and my hand picking efforts in stores
i wasted a hell of my time on the mega thread and everyone who knows me know im an HTC freak fan and number one HOX fan, but sorry whats going on with the HOX is hard to deny when it start to burn you
i didnt give up because i want a perfect one so badly! if thats not clear enough!
i bet your screen have so sort of defect and u didnt even bother looking
i can flood you with HOX serial photos if you want
its just like saying the One S has no MAO chipping issue! which i does, i saw one in store with the USB port edge already peeling off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25612660&postcount=307

htc are PISSING ME OFF

i really wanted to get this phone and now with all these issues with screen problems, storage space corruption etc. is seriously putting me off, i mean what the heck is this, it's meant to be their flagship device

Fcukin chill out, mine is fine what u complainging about, u havnt even got one so why complain
Sent from my HTC One X

Because I was going to get one today and now I'm not, it's a lovely device yet they can't get it right, you think I want to risk purchasing a handset that has flickers, screen issues, missing storage? Don't you realise that I actually USE my phone for pretty much everything from work, to uni, to my life?? AND I NEED IT TO WORK GOD DAMN IT NONE OF THIS BS

Boo hoo.
Try having one with issues before you complain. There are plenty of people with perfectly working ones, just a big majority on here that got them in the first week or so have early problems. Such as my self.
Most things aside from the screen flicker can be resolved.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Get one , you will get one like me a faultless one . No worries. Newer batch phone has no errors and btw prefer Taiwan made and serial ht24 or greater batch.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Mine is perfect no problems here

Lol, I hope he doesn't get one,... then maybe he will piss off from the HOX forum.
Creating bashing posts like this and the clown doesn't even have the device, nor has he even used it.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk 2

Waiting for threads like this to pop up when the S3 is released

I'm inclined to agree with the title, while I dislike the phone for other reasons HTC have annoyed me hugely with the whole "we've listened to the customers and unlocked the bootloader" lie.
The handset itself has been fine, no flex or screen problems and it takes a good picture. I suspect it will scratch the camera lens in regular use though (as did my Desire) but that's not the killer. While some people may find the built in memory and sealed battery to be fine, I don't.
It's being returned after six days of use/learning the foibles of the phone and I'll go back to my old handset for the time being. This isn't aimed at bashing the One X for all those who are about to jump on me for posting an opinion, just pointing out that there are those of us who have tried it and found it wanting. What will I look at next? Dunno and this isn't really the place to speculate. Quite sad about it really as the HOX has already attracted a decent developer base, there's quite an impressive who's who of developers from the Desire ROM sub forums around.

I have had mine for at least a month and have yet to have any problem that you described above. Go get one and see for yourself. Its definitely a great device, probably best I've ever had and thats hard for me to say considering I usually prefer Samsung. HTC did an excellent job with this phone.

Now is a good time to get one. Just got mine from Phones4U free on a 12mo contract at £36 a month
Get a drop box account and earn us both 500mb extra space http://db.tt.oxXI5hNk

mox123 said:
Because I was going to get one today and now I'm not, it's a lovely device yet they can't get it right, you think I want to risk purchasing a handset that has flickers, screen issues, missing storage? Don't you realise that I actually USE my phone for pretty much everything from work, to uni, to my life?? AND I NEED IT TO WORK GOD DAMN IT NONE OF THIS BS
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It's a phone, not a life-saving drug. If you don't want to even try it, just buy something else.

Don't feed the troll. He's just being a ****.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Yeah I'm being a ****? have you noticed the forums full of posts with htc one x faults? are you blind? ok you might have a good one, but a considerable amount of users are having serious issues,
ok, I guess you have a bigger **** than me since you call me a clown and state I'm being a ****, nice one,
I'm glad someone agrees with me in the fact that there are flawed models out there with no way to guarantee which model I will get,
What the arseholes who have replied to this post negatively are basically saying is I should get the phone then ***** about whatever flaws it has (if it has any),
How about all HTC ONE X models should be flawless rather than me worrying about whether I get a faulty model or not
I've never used one? are you ****ing serious, You think I would have made my mind on purchasing a phone without using it, now whos the clown making assumptions here,
I'm not saying I will get a faulty model but the fact is there are faulty models out there,
who the **** wants a phone with flickering screens, flex display, missing storage, etc.?? not me for a start
if you want to swear, I'm letting you know I can swear too

No problei here despite reading the stories on here before. I experienced the issues that the large HTC windows mobile had, can't remember its name now. Had no problems with desire and desire hd or sensation. Got mine off eBay for 350 including the beats headphones new, bargain in my opinion. A work of art this phone. Light as a feather.
The only thing that's noticeable is the off white screen colour, I cant tell if its a yellow tint or blue tint really. Should be fixed with software upgrades? Fingers crossed!
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mox123 said:
Yeah I'm being a ****? have you noticed the forums full of posts with htc one x faults? are you blind? ok you might have a good one, but a considerable amount of users are having serious issues,
ok, I guess you have a bigger **** than me since you call me a clown and state I'm being a ****, nice one,
I'm glad someone agrees with me in the fact that there are flawed models out there with no way to guarantee which model I will get,
What the arseholes who have replied to this post are basically saying is I should get the phone then ***** about whatever flaws it has (if it has any),
How about all HTC ONE X models should be flawless rather than me worrying about whether I get a faulty model or not
I've never used one? are you ****ing serious, You think I would have made my mind on purchasing a phone without using it, now whos the clown,
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as much as i disagree with the way you are handling the whole issue here specially with your language i also have to agree with you with the whole HTC thing though. if i knew what kinda faults the phone had from the start i would of gone for the Nexus. But as time goes and after 3 replacements i still kinda have a phone with a very thin gap...not noticeable but still you know it is there and a tad creak if you press hard on the left hand side of the phone..but still i will keep this as everything else is functional and the phone is a beast...with a nice case i bought and the pouch i have a great phone....it is down to you what you want to do but i would advice to handle your frustrations in a better manner good luck with what you choose

Im pissed off cos ive not really got any problems to report and feel as if ive been left out the party!!
Dam you HTC, why did you make my device fault free?
;-)

Well I admit maybe I shouldn't have freaked out, I've been eagerly awaiting this phone and then whilst checking these forums to ensure no major issues, I find there are a ton of issues, I mean wtf??
I'm not going to risk buying a phone unless I know there's a chance it will be a good working model.
Anyway sorry to have started this thread on a bad note and sorry for swearing, I can man up and admit I was wrong initially

forumhookersdotcom said:
Newer batch phone has no errors and btw prefer Taiwan made and serial ht24 or greater batch
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That is not entirely true. My last one was a ht242 and had this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLrWWFVNOM

You do realize anytime you have a lot of phone enthusiasts buying the same phone in an area such as a phone forum you are more likely to see more incidents of problems arise?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Finally got my one X back from HTC. Fixed but service was terrible.

I was one of the unfortunate guys to develop the wifi issue, did the test where I pushed gently on the top right of the screen to confirm it was indeed hardware related so off it went to HTC. The last time HTC repaired a device for me was my DHD and I couldn't fault the service in one area, the phone was picked up next day and then repaired almost instantly and delivered back to me a couple of days after pickup. The experience I had getting my One X repaired was a different story altogether, It took 2 and a half weeks from beginning to end just to repair a simple fault, had they actually had some decent answers for me when I queried it I wouldn't have minded but all I got was "Hmmm it seems to be taking far longer than usual for your repair" thank you captain obvious, "we will investigate and get back to you today with an update", got fobbed off with that line 3 times.
Finally when waiting for a response from them the UPS guy appeared with my phone, glad to say the phone is now picking up wifi no problem and I'm pleased that its fixed but being without my smart phone for so long was crippling. The fact the phone has a hardware fault right off the bat and then HTC were so poor with their efforts to fix it in a decent time frame has soured my view on them, may be venturing elsewhere for my next phone.

Their customer service went out the window when the incredible S was released I had a horrible time with my desire z getting repaired.

they were a little overwhelmed this time mate

That is true there must be loads of people complaining.

hamdir said:
they were a little overwhelmed this time mate
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yup regenesis seem to be cocking a lot up recently,

hamdir said:
they were a little overwhelmed this time mate
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Timeline:
June 2 - Massive Wi-Fi hardware fault thread started
June 18 - HTC acknowledges the problem
July 4 - The UK carrier 3 discloses what the fix entails meaning they've received communication from HTC
So from when the problem was first reported to the time a fix was filtered down to field service centers was about a month. Once the problem was identified HTC had to design and manufacture parts, develop procedures for field support people to apply the fix, and get both out to repair centers all over the world. That's pretty reasonable speed for a multi-billion dollar corporation. During that period, and before the fix was announced, many people sent their phones to HTC for repair multiple times getting it back with the problem unresolved. An expected outcome. Personally, if my phone was affected, I'd have waited until the fix was announced and probably a bit after to ensure all the parts and procedures were in place before sending my phone in. From reading people’s experiences with HTC’s UK service centers there’s clearly some issues. But those issues are separate from the timeliness of the specific repair for the Wi-Fi problem.

hamdir said:
they were a little overwhelmed this time mate
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I'm honestly not trying to pick a fight here, I am just curious, why are you always defending htc?

JJbdoggg said:
I'm honestly not trying to pick a fight here, I am just curious, why are you always defending htc?
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He´s not. if you were the only one the service would be great...

Two and a half weeks? That's quite fast. They took about five and a half to repair mine.

zuadao said:
He´s not. if you were the only one the service would be great...
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I'm not talking about this thread alone. Also their competitors have much faster turn around times e.g. samsung with the s3 which has shipped over 6.5 million units of a single mobile phone.

JJbdoggg said:
why are you always defending htc?
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If they suck, why do you buy their phones?
Hamdir's a big boy and doesn't need anyone to speak for him. Speaking for myself, I defend HTC on the forum where it's warranted. Many of the gripes and complaints are petty and could easily apply to any mobile device manufacturer. It's a public forum and people with issues should voice them. But the repetitive posts and pile-ons over some of the less significant issues would lead people looking to buy a One X that it's a piece of garbage. It's not. HTC rushed the One X to market, I'm guessing to beat Samsung and the SGS3, and it had more s/w and QC issues than it should have. Any reasonable person reading this forum could draw that conclusion. But the amount of threads and posts dedicated to repeating the same problems, issues, and experiences ad nauseam is unwarranted, doesn’t represent the majority of user’s experiences, and is a violation of XDA's forum rules. I've been on XDA since 2009 and this forum is the most emotional and overwrought of any I've participated in. And I’m not a HTC “fanboy.” My previous phone was a i9100 I had for eleven months and I own a UK G-Tab 10.1 which I think is great. The One X is my first HTC phone since the WinMo HD2.

Edit. Never mind

BarryH_GEG said:
If they suck, why do you buy their phones?
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A manufacturer can still make a brilliant product and suck at every other part of it's operations.
Lenovo make some of the most well-built laptops but their after-sales is quite simply chronically poor.
My opinion on HTC is that they make good phones if you're prepared to hand over the dough but after that, they're generally lousy with major Android updates outside their latest and greatest (for example). Also heard bad things about HTC's repair service so this thread comes at no surprise.
Also, it's anything but bad that HTC is being criticized. It makes it public that they need to improve.

I need to send mine off for repair as the screen is coming away from the case, but with stories like this it puts me off.
I need to get it sent in at some point though!
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Id send it away not everyone has a bad experience just some people do.

droident said:
My opinion on HTC is that they make good phones if you're prepared to hand over the dough but after that, they're generally lousy with major Android updates outside their latest and greatest (for example).
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???
Come on, the Incredible S just got ICS, name one other phone released in that time that has gotten an ICS update.

BarryH_GEG said:
If they suck, why do you buy their phones?
Hamdir's a big boy and doesn't need anyone to speak for him. Speaking for myself, I defend HTC on the forum where it's warranted. Many of the gripes and complaints are petty and could easily apply to any mobile device manufacturer. It's a public forum and people with issues should voice them. But the repetitive posts and pile-ons over some of the less significant issues would lead people looking to buy a One X that it's a piece of garbage. It's not. HTC rushed the One X to market, I'm guessing to beat Samsung and the SGS3, and it had more s/w and QC issues than it should have. Any reasonable person reading this forum could draw that conclusion. But the amount of threads and posts dedicated to repeating the same problems, issues, and experiences ad nauseam is unwarranted, doesn’t represent the majority of user’s experiences, and is a violation of XDA's forum rules. I've been on XDA since 2009 and this forum is the most emotional and overwrought of any I've participated in. And I’m not a HTC “fanboy.” My previous phone was a i9100 I had for eleven months and I own a UK G-Tab 10.1 which I think is great. The One X is my first HTC phone since the WinMo HD2.
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Where at any point in my two replies did I state they suck? I am a big boy too so my reasons for purchasing my phone do not concern you. Secondly I have had good experiences with htc and I read several reviews (some from xda) praising this phone to no end. As you mentioned this phone was rushed to market and has several flaws, if htc really cared about the customer and wanted to provide a good user experience they would have waited until it was ready to release it. I don't see your problems with the threads being created, in my opinion they are a good thing to inform anyone considering the phone of the amount of issues it is facing, it is like you are trying to sweep it under the carpet. I am not a fanboy either I have owned a device running pretty much every os on the market right now but this is one of the worst quality control problems I have seen.

Mine came back from its second repair yesterday for a dead pixel and missing front camera lens. For the THIRD time I have a dead pixel. That's three screens with dead/stuck pixels in a row. Either I'm unlucky or these screens are prone to it. To top it off, they replaced the body of my phone with a white one with scratches on the camera lens.The serial number matches so I can only imagine they've mixed ny case up with someone else's. Lucky for them really as my case was in perfect condition.

I will add one thing to my original post, I have unlocked ny bootloader so am glad they still repaired it for me
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Daley87 said:
I will add one thing to my original post, I have unlocked ny bootloader so am glad they still repaired it for me
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same here fella..i had an unlocked bootloader and they still fixed my phone:highfive:

HTC sales go down Q3 2012

HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
What is happening?

seriously a new post for this? its been discussed in many threads
everyone hates HTC for the lack of SD expansion despite the big storage, the battery issues despite rushing for the slim SGS2 last year which seems to have confused HTC about which is more imporant, they also hate it for not providing OTA faster than google
and the defects on the One X early launch and the US import block from apple on the One series
finally HTC can't afford the mass advertising of samsung
so yea, we all wanted HTC down and it is going down

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HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
What is happening?
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You wonder about it? I don't. HTC does the same mistakes over and over again, losing customers, maintaining their bad image.

its ok they are going back to their windows root as you can see by their 8x

Also S-On. That alone has caused many to not buy HTC devices anymore. I won't be buying their devices that are S-On ever again. (Not that you care what I think, just if enough people think like I do....their sales will drop even more)...
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Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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I am really sorry I honestly don't find the point about this thread.
If HTC goes bankrupt that is their thing, or are you their spy sent here to discuss and try to convince us to buy more of "your" product?
Too bad you fai....

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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:good: super post

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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oh my god this guy is spot on. exactly what i wanted to say for a long time, to be honest i think they died mostly because of marketing, i dont see much of HTC's marketing compare to Samsung, everyone agree the HOX is an awesome phone but not so many people know about it, combined with the money lost from buying Beats. I'm kind of tired of people *****ing about sense, 32gb is not much, no sd card, removable battery, seriously MOST normal user (not the geek like us here on XDA) dont care about those things, oh yeah and one more thing, i love sense. LOL

Possibly also gonna be one of my last phone by HTC - for now... My phone is getting repaired for 250 euros and then i'm going to sell it for 250 euros (basically giving it away without profit). I already have a buyer and i will get the nexus 4 from google for only 300 euros. (i'm only doing this because it costs me 50$ more to get a nexus 4, since i have to get it repaired either way, eh?). If the nexus4 didn't have such a great money/specification ratio i would have probably stayed one x.
pros: I love htc's design, i love sense, it does feel different.
cons:
Their UI is good, but it comes with consequences, sadly due to my screen breaking i don't think i'll be experiencing sense with jelly bean. As good as 2.17 has gotten, IMO it's not there yet in terms of performance. I can't describe how much the app drawar annoys the living crap out of me. (I think JB fixes it though)
Display is wonderful, but why in their right mind would they put a 1800 mAh battery in a quadcore phone with a 40nm processor? I monitor my battery whenever i use it as if there's no tomorrow. You end up reaching a point where you think, okay can't touch this or that. Might get a sporadic % drop that will leave me with nearly no juice at all.
Even before rooting my phone, it would drop by 5 sometimes even more % at a time. This fault seems to not only be in the one x, but it also seems to show same crappy stats on the HTC Cha Cha(given to me by my provider) which i'm using now till my one x comes back.
IMO they seem to be doing a lot of things right and well, but if you are doing more wrong than right then that's where a company has two think twice about what they are doing.
That's not to say that other companies do not have their problems. Samsung has its faults too. But i feel as though with that company the wrongs don't outweigh the rights. I feel as though they(HTC) still haven't learned about simple things. I remember reading their blog about how important a thin phone is. It is important, but those 0.2~3 mm for the sake of a little bit more battery would satisfy users much more than having a device with 0.2~0.3mm less thickness and therefor less battery.
There's a reason they are not earning money and they should look into it asap.
edit: this seems like a rant. No! I honestly have not seen a nicer screen than the one on my ONE X. But despite the gorgeous screen i can't see it justifying those few faults by htc. (One thing i must admit - once i went SLCD2 i can't convince myself to go back to amoled that's one of the only main reasons i've also considered for going with the nexus4 is also because of the IPS screen which is said to be good. If it were amoled i honestly would have canceled this decision and stayed with the one x this round)
This is my first HTC device, and this is the opinion of a first time HTC user. Me and a friend had WiFi issues and screen gap etc. etc.
This doesn't leave us with a good taste in our mouth. I can really imagine long term users wanting to stay with HTC and that's understandable. This small mistake at the beginning though, has left people still worried about buying an htc one x to date. Still posts pop up about concerns. The first impression is the most important - especially to users wanting to convert to a new company - and as a company that was already in a bit of a trouble they really messed it up this time around. Lets hope htc does it right with tegra 4 a15s. Maybe faith can be restored. Hope it gets back on track because a world with samsung and apple only would suck major balls.

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.

always wise my friend shehadeh

HTC used to be the top...
My kaiser, my N1,, and now my Senny, are all real good phones.
The sensation form factor with the curve edge screen and removable battery/entire case should have been the standard going forward.
Unfortunately, they are not pushing out anything ground breaking anymore, just following the curve, not creating it, not to mention, their ads really suck compared to the Samsung ones.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk 2

omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
thekillingroad said:
One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.
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It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
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No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.

thekillingroad said:
No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.
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You know, in marketing theory, it`s even needed to have fanbase of market`s pioneers, but mobile area is to specific. You see it with apple. They going straight to the consumers, passing all the pioneers

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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I'm assuming hox is HTC one x ?
Ads are very influential in certain ways for the mainstream. I remember seeing the ad for the sensation, with the little girl playing the piano, wondering what the point was. Samsung is doing very well at being the anti-Apple.
Another problem is that Samsung and lg make other products besides phones, which can influence their buying decisions, like TVs and washers. What else does HTC make?
I love HTC, but honestly, in a month or so, I'm picking up either an N4, or a GN2.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk 2

Its just the marketing, you all hate iPhone but that makes the most money does it run android no, but people still buy it you lot are not the average tech consumers. HTC is doing bad because of marketing due to the lack of spending money. They spent their money on the wrong things. You cannot compare apple and samsung to HTC, a smartphone manufacturer you idiots. Someone said they are not doing well because of the lack of sd card and s-off you must be seriously stupid. After reading all of these comments I can tell you all one thing business lessons didn't do you a favour did it. I'am a business student I have experience believe me it's just marketing and brand image.
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After service very suck in my country.
You can only sell me one time!
Repaire part very expensive!
Used to love this brand but not anymore.
Wifi problem,broken color in phone's body,USB problem,battery sucker.
No warranty cause unlocked bootloader but you never check my phone yet but only telling unlock you will never check anything.
Bye bye.

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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Maybe we are a small percentage of users...but as someone else mentioned, we do influence family and friends buying habits. Not only that but I've seen quite a few devs drop HTC devices for Samsung BECAUSE of the locked bootloaders.
There are 4 million xda users. If a small percentage of us influence others it does add up. All of these decisions add up.
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