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Hey y'all!
Phone runs damn fast now...2500 with 1.1Ghz /75. Even got as high as 2900 with 1.2ghz BUT... some simple improvements that can be made.
1) Lack of Task Manager that came with the stock 2.2.1 ROM which had auto-end feature. I installed Process Killer app, but maybe one out there that's better? It will kill apps at time intervals, but not prevent from opening again. For example Maps opens up A LOT without me running it (among several others). Eventually, this PK app uses 20% of battery to end these apps.
I tried to install 2.2.1 ROM task manager on CM7 and didn't work. maybe there's another method???
2) I miss the Swipe feature and stock keyboard. Anyway I can transfer these over? I forgot to back them up before CM7.
3) the dialer sucks. No speed dial and doesn't bring up contacts as you type them in the dialer
4) no battery saver mode. i had to download an app. forgot the name.
5) Wasn't connected to 3G at first, but found the answer here and simply is not faster than the stock 2.2.1 ROM. I was easily pulling well over 3Mbps downloads and not uncommon to get 4,5 and even 6mbps on Tmobile 3G. But on CM7 i barely get over 3, if I get there at all. Maybe Tmo throttled back my download speeds? I have been messing with the phone for 2 weeks trying to sort everything out.
Thanks!
1) Android system itself has good memory management, i.e, it automatically closes unwanted apps to free up memory if it really needs. Using task killer apps really do have much effect (at least nothing outright). So there's really no need to have one.
2) you can get swype here : http://beta.swype.com/
3) you can try 'go dialer' or any such dialer apps from market
4) Whats battery saver mode?
5) Have you changed the baseband to your region/provider?
1 & 3 Try the Go apps option,
GoLauncherEX gives a nice launcher very similar to ADW Launcher that comes with CM7 but does add a Running Tab to your app drawer if you wish to close apps down. Although this is not really needed, as mentioned above, Android shuts down apps not needed when needed.
GoDialer/GoContacts as a dialer replacement, themeable, good options, worth a try.
5 Look in the Apps for Defy Baseband and make sure you choose the one best for you. That might help with your 3G problem
Im no expert and still a bit of a novice but switching from Stock to CM7 was one of the best things I did so stick with it and CM7 will shine through
hey guys!
i was trying to figure out if there is any clean, fast rom (gingerbread) for the motorola defy!
i've tried the cm7 2.3.7 but it felt like there was something holding the phone back, plus battery was heating up like crazy.
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tried miui-looks fancy, like quite a few of the options they have like pop up message and the easy customization but not that great for me because theres no app drawer.
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used walter's ms2ginger,like it but not that much. its the fastest of all of these.
so now what i want to know is if theres a rom for the defy that would make me go gaga over my phone all over again!
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not sure if this is the right place for this so apologise my noob-ness
oh and since the defy+ is out, is there a way to get a nandroid of it to install on the older defy???? (since its the same thing except for the 1ghz processor clock speed) :S
Weird, I tried ms2ginger and it's more like a faster defy stock rom with the same random lags.
I haven't tried miui, but cm7 is faster than ms2ginger and (sure) stock rom and almost never lags. If you do not need call recording and you don't care about 720p recording/playback, cm7 is the best of them.
(720p playback in cm7 is not bad, just ms2ginger is better a little)
but the camera app on the ms2 ginger is the best! lol its so much nicer looking and functioning then the cm7! :O
Thanks guys! I actually have 2.3.7 CM7, not 2.3.5
pravarth said:
1) Android system itself has good memory management, i.e, it automatically closes unwanted apps to free up memory if it really needs. Using task killer apps really do have much effect (at least nothing outright). So there's really no need to have one.
2) you can get swype here : beta.swype.com
3) you can try 'go dialer' or any such dialer apps from market
4) Whats battery saver mode?
5) Have you changed the baseband to your region/provider?
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4) I have battery defender app. I shuts off the antenna after 5 min when the screen goes off. It's very similar how T mobile motoblur was on the Defy. They allowed you to set the phone on 3 different performance levels. Now that I have some of the stuff sorted out, the phone will last 2 days no problems (avg/below avg use).
5) There are 3 choices for baseband. They are (not sure of the whole name) XXXX.4, xxxx.9 and 6.0. My phone only works on the xxxx.4 choice. However, one thing i do notice on CM7 is that an 'H' shows up by the bars, whereas 2.2.1 rom just said 3G. This is something that if I had known earlier I would have checked my phone before going to CM7.
Does the APN count for anything?? I did have to enter some values for that.
HytestA said:
1 & 3 Try the Go apps option,
GoLauncherEX gives a nice launcher very similar to ADW Launcher that comes with CM7 but does add a Running Tab to your app drawer if you wish to close apps down. Although this is not really needed, as mentioned above, Android shuts down apps not needed when needed.
GoDialer/GoContacts as a dialer replacement, themeable, good options, worth a try.
5 Look in the Apps for Defy Baseband and make sure you choose the one best for you. That might help with your 3G problem
Im no expert and still a bit of a novice but switching from Stock to CM7 was one of the best things I did so stick with it and CM7 will shine through
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I wonder if the themes for GoLauncher will take care of the dialer issue?
sUpErwHoO said:
i've tried the cm7 2.3.7 but it felt like there was something holding the phone back, plus battery was heating up like crazy.
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check your email settings if you set that up. Mine got real hot and battery drained like crazy because it was set to retrieve every 15 minutes and I was in a place with sh*tty reception. Put those 2 together and your battery won't last long. I set my email for every hour. I also don't have any social sites setup on the phone as I don't use them (T, FB). Also try battery defender app.
I have a live wallpaper on, but it still shouldnt be that laggy. My sensation could handle a lot that was thrown at it without being all that laggy. Even with live wallpaper off it's a little laggy. Keyboard in landscape mode? Laggy. Swipe from one home screen to another? Laggy.
Any fix for this!? I just can't wait until CM9 now to fix all this stuff!
I don't know man. I came from a Sensation (running CyanogenMod 7) and the Nexus blows it out of the water in terms of speed and smoothness...and the Sensation was pretty ****in' fast running stock Android.
Well I still think my Nexus is better. I love it to death! But the sudden lag kind of kills it. I don't know what the deal is either.
I read some of the live wallpapers are laggy but not all of them
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Hi monkey hung
I too noticed some laggyness to begin with the Live Wallpaper turned on. Sounds like your last phone was an iPhone 4?
I've been playing around with settings and have a few concepts on what might be going on:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
2. Disable your Live Wallpaper, I did, it saved battery life and things are much snappier.
3. Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
4. I've noticed that dragging my finger along the screen does not give the same smooth/matte feeling of the iPhone 4. As a matter of fact, it almost jitters/vibrates across the contour glass. If I touch with a less contact force, I tend to find the performance of touch screen to be smooth, rather when I apply more force it tends to jump across the surface of the screen creating a jagged touch slide. I've also noticed the higher sensitivity of the accelerometer. If you have a very steady hand you can see the extra performance, if you hand is un-steady, it almost looks worse than the previous phone, but in reality, it was simply my inability to hold the device in one spot that gave the poor performance, really this a reflection on how responsive the phone is to my dodgy movements.
Thanks but I had HTC Sensation with CM7. I think you must have mistaken when I made topic about my girl friend having an iPhone 4 haha
berglh said:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
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please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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I agree!
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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The rotation delay is intentional.
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I'm experiencing the same thing you are but the delay is intentional. If my screen was rotating all the time I would get really annoyed!
Also, the switching between 3G and 4G is intentional. 3G uses less battery... it kicks over to 4G when you're actually using the data connection.
My galaxy nexus is almost perfectly responsive. It lags on occasion, but I find it to be much smoother and more responsive overall than just about any other android device I've used. (including the galaxy S II)
davidbart said:
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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If your phone is laggy, then it's probably something on it you're running that isn't optimized for ICS. My phone runs just fine and easily outclasses any other phone I've used (and I've used pretty much every high end gsm phone that has come out here in the states). FYI your data isn't "fading from hspa to 3g", the phone idles on UMTS and when it's transmitting data it goes to hspa. This is very normal. Do a search on it if you want to know more.
kwazi said:
please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
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Wow, we are really going to miss that 6 MB with the 1 GB available to the GN. My last phone was an Xperia X10 with only 384 MB of RAM, yes it was chuggy, but comparatively this amount of allocation is small and the feature seems to work well thsu far. I hardly think they are going to miss it, but your point on the Development Settings is valid to a certain degree.
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By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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I would rebut this by saying that most of my paid apps either don't work at all or don't work correctly due to the fact I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich prior to turning this option on on my own phone. There are many other reasons that apps are going to fail, particularly on Android. In retrospect, a disclaimer to this effect might have been appropriate considering the ramifications of the advice, and I direct this at hung monkey:
If you are not smart enough to draw the correlation between enabling the 2D acceleration and most of your apps suddenly not working, then you should probably not turn it on.
I have turned it on, it fixed the laggyness of the default Live Wallpaper, I haven't tested how much it saps the battery yet. Turning it on has only resulted in an improvement to my phone thus far.
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Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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From what I read about your "laggy" screen rotate. That is intended so it doesn't accidentally change orientations.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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Don't be so sure that it doesn't. For example, if I load a relatively heavy game in to memory, such as Pocket Legends or NFS Shift, and I multitask, the app is suspended. I can use the app selection menu to resume that app, and quite quickly I might ad, much faster than the time it takes for the game to load in memory.
If I then kill it with the Task Switcher, it then has to load from the start, like the suspended session was terminated when I removed it from this list. Even Google themselves said that if you like to manage your apps, then this is how you can end them, but ICS will do a good job of managing it for you anyway, the controls are there if you want them.
This behavior does not match your allegation, would you please care to shed some light?
Cheers!
I concur with the Op - the phone by comparison with my Samsung Galaxy S2, it does seem a bit laggy when scrolling between screens - I have everything setup exactly the same way as on the SGS2.
I'm not technical but I can only hope that these reasons of laggyness come down to the apps,etc. haven't been optimised for ICS yet?
When scrolling up and down the twitter, facebook or google reader apps, it just isnt as smooth as the Galaxy S2 or even the Galaxy S1.
Otherwise, very beautiful UI.
Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
case0 said:
Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
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I agree! This phone lags really bad with all the live wallpapers except for the Phase Beam one. TURN THEM OFF and its by far the smoothest phone.....lol
I use wp clock and havent noticed any lag versus having it off....
Hi everyone,
I have my GSM Galaxy Nexus for nearly 2 months, and I'm really pleased with this phone, which replace my old yet good Galaxy S. The device is snappy, smooth, I can play every games and watch nearly every movie files I want etc, perfect for me, especially with its huge wide screen.
That said, I always try to find a little thing to reproach to my phone. Not so easy, but even so, I find something which can be a bit annoying.
We all use our launcher a lot, obviously, it is like the core/bridge app of our Android device. I noticed that the 4.0 launcher has some performances problems, let me explain you how to easily reproduce them (close all your apps in order to have the best performance as possible) :
-The transition between the app-drawer and the desktop panels can be not so smooth as it should with such a powerful device. Try to go in and out the app-drawer, you will notice that sometimes it lag, sometimes not. I asked myself why it behave like that, and I may have found the problem. When you enter in the app-drawer or when you flip your panels on the desktop or in the app-drawer, you surely have notice this little blue bar at the bottom at the screen, which indicate you where you are. If you try to go in/out the app-drawer while this bar is on the screen, the transition will be laggy. Just wait it disappear, and it will be smooth (if not, do it 2-3 more time, and it should be good).
-When you clicked on a widget in the app-drawer, a message will pop out about how to add it to your homescreen blablabla. It also notice that if you try to flip your panel in the appdrawer or the desktop while the message is on the screen, everything will be laggy, especially in the app-drawer, it will have horrible performance, but as soon as this message disappear, everything become smooth like before.
Why ? It don't know. At first, I thought the problem comes from the launcher, but maybe not. Indeed, if messages like the one I talked about above appear anywhere while you're using your device, like in the Web Browser for example, it will lag, maybe less than in the launcher, but it will.
So what ? Maybe the launcher is not fully hardware accelerated, or it lack optimizations ? It may be the case, but I try to run CM9 on my old Galaxy S, and it doesn't have such problems (the performance will depend on the old hardware itself), it is also the same on a friend's Galaxy SII, its launcher is butter-smooth even if you do want I explain.
Is the OMAP4460 or the PowerVR SGX540 too bad to run it correctly ? I doubt it is the case, since my 2 years old Galaxy S run it good. Indeed, even if I overclocked my device to 1400MHz with the "performance" governor, only the 1st case problem will be partially solved, the 2nd one will still make your device run like crap.
Since those lags can appear everywhere if above conditions are met, the problem may be that our phone can't run correctly if there are 2 "layers" on the screen, the message on foreground and your launcher on background for example. It is probably the case, and even if I study IT, I can't explain it really well, sorry
I obviously try a lot of ROMS : Stock 4.0.2/3/4, AOKP, CM9, ARHD, with stock and custom kernels, and they all have the same problem. If you want to have better performance, try to put the minimal CPU frequence to 700MHz, you will maybe lose 30 minutes of battery, but it is globally more usable if you want my opinion.
Do you experiment the same problems ? Have you any ideas about how to solve them ? Thanks to read me !
PS : The Galaxy Nexus also has performances problems if you are using it in landscape position. Everything will be less smooth and snappy. The best example is if you use the app-drawer, it back absolutely unusable.
Since upgrading to nova launcher prime my UI is very fluid. Landscape is still choppy but less so.
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I forgot to say that I also tried Nova and Apex, it has the same problems
Hey guys,
I've noticed lags and stutters a lot more than I feel I should with a device this powerful. A few areas where I've occasionally seen it:
- Typing on the keyboard
- Multitasking with certain apps (somewhat understandable)
- Recent apps menu
- Opening certain apps
Perhaps I've been a little spoiled in that I'm coming from the Nexus 5 with a lightweight rom, but just a few things I've noticed.
Anyone else noticing some lag? Are there any settings you've tweaked to minimize this lag?
Thanks!
Recent apps and keyboard have always been slow on Touchwiz unfortunately...so for app switching I use Switchr Pro (amazing app btw) and Google keyboard which is always fast as well. You can turn animations off in developer options but yeah, I used a Moto X 2nd Gen for two weeks and that thing is waaaaay faster and smoother than any Samsung I've ever used but I prefer the features that the S Pen brings so I deal with the occasional lag here and there lol
Thanks for the response Composi. A agree, the software value adds like multi-window and s-pen definitely out-weight the occasional lag. This is my second "Stock" Samsung device (had the S3 years back and g-nex) but my first Note device. I'll try your suggestion and use the google keyboard and check out Switchr Pro. Definitely a fantastic phone though and for the power a features it gives me I'm willing to live with the lag.
I have never experienced this much lag and stutter. It's unfortunate but I am experiencing everything you are...
There's the occasional spastic scrolling in the browser, which I don't get. My Note 3 was pretty bad regarding this and the only browsers that would scroll smoothly were Chrome Beta and Opera. At least with the Note 4 it seems to be mostly gone. Strange though how Samsung can't solve this.
The SMS app also stutters a tiny bit, but the Note 3 stuttered like crazy when scrolling through a long conversation. It's not enough to bother me though with this newest handset.
I don't see the specific issues you mention though, OP.
I definitely notice more lag than I'd like or thought I would be, then I look at my RAM and I'm using up over 2GB of 2.7 GB, that's just background stuff! There's so much background processes running from, well, I don't really know but root would be nice to get rid of some of this crap; I've even disabled a lot of stuff. Whats running:
Quick Connect Interactive
Dropbox
TeslaUndrea
Evernote
com.sec.android.app.Smart
DeviceTest
ClipboardUIService
Direct pen input
Fingerprints
Beam Service
Smartcard service
Context Service
Google Play Service
Google play services
S Finder
S Health
Samsung Push Service
SoundAlive
Google Search
Syncronize
Weather
Facebook
com.sec.android.app.FalshBarservice
MyScript Resource Manager
Smart Remote
SwiftKey
I have also had 2 random reboots in less than 1 day. Maybe disabling bloat messes with things
I only experience lag when I press the recent apps button. Other than that, there isn't any lag on my Note 4.
Since I installed apex launcher I haven't noticed any lag except for a little keyboard lag when inputting the contact I want to text in the messaging app
Do you guys have power saving turned on? If you do check in that settings menu and if you have restrict performance on that turns the processor down at all times. I think that's a bug. If you just turn that part off the phone works great. Spent all night diagnosing that one.
You know what raiu, I do have PowerSaving mode on. I was under the impression that it needed to be toggled on for the auto-enable at x% to work. Turns out it doesn't. I would image this will fix my slight lag issue, and all fix the ridiculously good battery life I have seen since getting the phone.
The long awaited Lollipop update for Samsung Note 4 is here. For some of us. Maybe it could have waited a bit longer; especially the Developer Edition group who suffers some minor setbacks at the moment... But developers are hard at work trying to snuff out a bug dealing with the brightness control, affected by the reflash of the aboot.mbn (the file we use to put the Note 4 in Developer mode - a.k.a. unlocked), as well as fighting the new Lollipop architecture and compatibility of some applications, including but not limited to xposed framework / modules, and some other not-ready-for-Lollipop-prime-time applications (requiring root, and some not...)
But, while there are a few approaches to getting LP on those devices and keeping the developer option - I wish to report at least my take on Lollipop. I like it. I like it very much. My initial "road test" seems to be quite positive...
I will list the no-so-good items I found so far, which are just a few;
1. As stated above, yes I suffer the lack of brightness control too, where the device stays @ 100% brightness all the time. the other part of that is, if you try and adjust the lighting profile like dynamic, cinema, and or photo etc, it also does not work - I think from the same issue.
2. I also want to report that even with the battery cover off, during all the flashing, my unit got quite hot and reported overheating... but, since the flashing completed, the unit get's a tad warmer (that's my perception) now and then, but in either case, the battery life seems unaffected by it - which is good....
3. Lastly the app installations go a bit slower than KK in my opinion, sometimes a lot slower. But, once installed, and running, all is ok...
So, the "road test" - this is based on a developer version, with the OTA of LP, which hit our devices, just like non-developers - same day.
The noticeable benefits:
1. The phone boots quicker. definitely an improvement over KK
2. Major change in Hardware GPS performance and accuracy. The acquisition is similar to KK, but the accuracy is far better than KK even JB, for sure - Using GPS Test Plus, I get consistent 10ft accurace, whereas before, in KK / JB, it'd get to 10ft every so often, yet seemed to bounce between 13ft and 16ft most of the time... I'm very happy bout this.
3. Bluetooth sync / paring - It was like I had a whole new phone, faster sync, it actually found my speakerphone without me having to make the unit visible, nice...
4. Using TWRP, backups to the internal sdcard0 were 94 seconds to completion, and that was with TWRP, SuperSU, and Root Explorer installed. The best time, after I de-bloated the phone, removing a bucketload of Samsung apps, Some Google, Some Verizon, Virtually all Location Service Software (I'll explain briefly later) and a great handful of applications - brought the TWRP backup time to just 72 seconds - just amazing!!!!
5. DE bloating went smooth, no app stoppages upon reboot, pretty dang clean... Aside from SuperSU and Root Explorer, I was down to about 18 visible apps - "The Naked Lollipop!!"
6. I think I am seeing an improvement on fast charge, if anything, it's not getting worse, which is great...
7. I like the whole UI / UX of Lollipop better than the other OS's, more ergonomic, more notifying, flatter look n feel - but, maybe it's me, cause it's new...
8. Native Call Recording works great (have to be rooted) - this is an app flashable if rooted, not associated w / xposed. General phone use seems to be cool - still getting used to the end button in the middle of the screen...
I have not tried a full audio / video / media test yet, on fidelity etc... that will be a bit later on...
What is everyone's experience with LP, rooted / non-rooted etc.?
The talk in the other Lollipop Threads is that battery life is a lot worse. Do you think that might be a Retail Edition problem that doesn't affect DE's? Maybe caused by the OTA flash? When I tried it I found an unacceptable problem that I may have missed the fix for. Possibly it'll be OK the next time I try. The real problem was I was unable to restore my KK backup in TWRP 2.8.5.0. I ended up having to start fresh. Another real problem is the inability to turn down the screen brightness on all of the white backgrounds gives me a headache. I'm probably going to wait for the fix for that.
Starting from scratch isn't a real problem because I usually think of improvements for my new installation. I am concerned about not being able to restore though. I'm going to replace my last back-up but I was wondering if TWRP 2.8.6.0.might be better. Are there any thoughts on that matter?