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Accessing shared files on PC wirelessly. Possible?

Hey guys,
tried to find some other thread about this topic but didn't find anything related. i have also googled it and nothing came up, or at least useful.
thing is: considering that today many computer media players such as itunes, winamp and even ms's windows media player itself have builtin media sharing capabilities for videogame consoles (wii, psp, ps3, xbox) and nokia mobile phones (NSeries)... is this really possible that there's no application for windows mobile capable of doing the same?
if so, please post their names, i'm sure some other folks might be after this too. otherwise, guys give me a hand with creativity to work around efficiently. to get that the user should be able to access library, play and skip tracks as long as they are in the same wi-fi network.
lol is it that too much?

Not too much to ask really, and it has been answered if you did a little search. Depends on what ROM you use, what file explorer you use etc .. but if you follow this post you should be fine. Works for me!

If ya use Resco Explorer as file manager, network shares can be viewed from WLAN.

gomax said:
If ya use Resco Explorer as file manager, network shares can be viewed from WLAN.
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Totally!! Same here man!!

Yep, you can also install the Network Plugin, map the drives and add the files into your media player.
You can also run videos from the network without problems, just make sure you have the codecs.

you see... that's what i'm talking about, accessing files on a shared folder is easy, i could even install IIS on my computer and then access files via HTTP on a home network but this is not worth.
media sharing is the answer cause the library updates itself automatically cause that's all it's need. on a tap you have all your songs, videos and pictures just as if they were there. and the best of all, just one single application.
working with shared folders is always a pain and you have to open various applications to get the things done...
a media player that would automatically scan shared folders could be an option...

Yeah, it is possible.
If you run Network Plugin, find the shared folder with your music and map it.
You can go to (in my case, Pocket Music), go to options then Load, and there you can specify what folder(s) will be the ones that will come up as a playlist, in this case, your shared folder with music.
So everytime you open Pocket Music, the files that are stored on your pc's music folder, will display on your media player.
And you will play them without problem.

SlakerBoi said:
you see... that's what i'm talking about, accessing files on a shared folder is easy, i could even install IIS on my computer and then access files via HTTP on a home network but this is not worth.
media sharing is the answer cause the library updates itself automatically cause that's all it's need. on a tap you have all your songs, videos and pictures just as if they were there. and the best of all, just one single application.
working with shared folders is always a pain and you have to open various applications to get the things done...
a media player that would automatically scan shared folders could be an option...
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I know what you mean about running a media server. I do this with media player 11, and access it from my xbox and roku soundbridge. I don't know of any ppc software which will access the media server though.
I should imagine that an audio player which scanned shared folders to build a library would take some time to scan my 18000 tracks on my pc.

jez83uk said:
I know what you mean about running a media server. I do this with media player 11, and access it from my xbox and roku soundbridge. I don't know of any ppc software which will access the media server though.
I should imagine that an audio player which scanned shared folders to build a library would take some time to scan my 18000 tracks on my pc.
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that's exactly what i think. i have an xbox original converted in media centre that takes ages to scan my entire library, i wonder what would be using a shared folder in my phone and i have just over 3000 tracks.
i'm waiting to get a wireless router to start playing with it, the tests i tried to run using an ad-hoc connection were all a pain in the butt...
well, let's see... still open for ideas.

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I don't need it because I know a way to use the wifi network to share your media libraries and stream the media to your phone. It's way better. I also can do it through Bluetooth.

So it can access the files anywhere? Cause this would be awesome to use with my Epic. I got alot of videos and music on my laptop. So if I was on my 3G network, I can wirless stream my music and videos?

No, wifi and Bluetooth only.

Whosdaman said:
So it can access the files anywhere? Cause this would be awesome to use with my Epic. I got alot of videos and music on my laptop. So if I was on my 3G network, I can wirless stream my music and videos?
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yes that is correct you can access the files from anywhere that you have data service or wifi! and yes wireless stream of them all
XGodOfModzX said:
No, wifi and Bluetooth only.
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incorrect, you can use over 3G and 4G as well with this

Oh I thought you were talking to me......awkward
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and forgot to mention in the desktop dversion of pogoplug you can check an option to have your ps3 and your xbox 360 discover the music and videos and whatever else you may have on your external/s

How exactly does it work? Is there a server?
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Dockstar for PC
It works as a virtual drive. I have one and it is very useful in the house since I dont have to connect my hardrive to anything in order to access it. another useful thing i do with is transfer files...my brother has the password to it so he downloaded the desktop plugin. Now whenever we want to show each other a movie or song...we just copy and paste the file onto the virtual drive like we would a folder on our computer and we have full access to the newly uploaded content...
the only draw back is in playback of your movies and music when not on the same network...it takes a while to load, and you have to deal with constant buffering.

chizzwhizz said:
It works as a virtual drive. I have one and it is very useful in the house since I dont have to connect my hardrive to anything in order to access it. another useful thing i do with is transfer files...my brother has the password to it so he downloaded the desktop plugin. Now whenever we want to show each other a movie or song...we just copy and paste the file onto the virtual drive like we would a folder on our computer and we have full access to the newly uploaded content...
the only draw back is in playback of your movies and music when not on the same network...it takes a while to load, and you have to deal with constant buffering.
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i dont have any troubles with buffering personally, i watch stuff at work from my hard drive at home without any troubles.

+20 Mb without wi-fi

Anyone know if there is a way to install apps/games of over 20 mb without a wi-fi connection. So far i found nothing
Thank you for your help
also zune cant seem to let me sync my music (mp3 format) it says format not supported

strange , I just synced over 1000 mp3 using zune with a usb cable .

You need to tick the box in Zune to have it auto-convert to an acceptable format and you're good to go.
As for apps over 20mb - that'd be via the client and a USB cable.

solo21hd2 said:
You need to tick the box in Zune to have it auto-convert to an acceptable format and you're good to go.
As for apps over 20mb - that'd be via the client and a USB cable.
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Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?

doministry said:
Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?
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no , it is .wmv and if you sync an mp3 it will be converted to .wmv to .

tittieslover said:
Anyone know if there is a way to install apps/games of over 20 mb without a wi-fi connection. So far i found nothing
Thank you for your help
also zune cant seem to let me sync my music (mp3 format) it says format not supported
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To download an app larger than 20 MB, you need to be on a Wi-Fi connection or a connection to your Internet-connected computer via USB. Windows Phone 7 was designed for not only those with unlimited smartphone plans, but for those without smartphone plans or data capped smartphone plans. Therefore at this time, any apps over 20 MB must be downloaded over Wi-Fi/USB.
ceesheim said:
no , it is .wmv and if you sync an mp3 it will be converted to .wmv to .
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Download music from the Zune Marketplace can be in either a protected .WMA format (not WMV, as that is for videos), or an MP3. When you tap a specific song to buy or download, an MP3 will have a little MP3 icon telling you that you are downloading the song in an MP3 format. The same goes for purchasing music through the PC client. If you see an MP3 symbol, you are downloading MP3s, if you don't see that symbol, they are protected WMA files.
Symbol looks like:
Code:
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|MP3|
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If you set up the Zune software to convert files to a lower bit-rate during sync, then your files will be converted to the same format as your original file (though it seems only MP3 and WMA - if your file is not of these types, it will convert to WMA). Your original file, will not be touched on your computer, and only your device will contain the modified file.

prjkthack said:
To download an app larger than 20 MB, you need to be on a Wi-Fi connection or a connection to your Internet-connected computer via USB. Windows Phone 7 was designed for not only those with unlimited smartphone plans, but for those without smartphone plans or data capped smartphone plans. Therefore at this time, any apps over 20 MB must be downloaded over Wi-Fi/USB.
Download music from the Zune Marketplace can be in either a protected .WMA format (not WMV, as that is for videos), or an MP3. When you tap a specific song to buy or download, an MP3 will have a little MP3 icon telling you that you are downloading the song in an MP3 format. The same goes for purchasing music through the PC client. If you see an MP3 symbol, you are downloading MP3s, if you don't see that symbol, they are protected WMA files.
Symbol looks like:
Code:
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|MP3|
¯¯¯¯¯
If you set up the Zune software to convert files to a lower bit-rate during sync, then your files will be converted to the same format as your original file (though it seems only MP3 and WMA - if your file is not of these types, it will convert to WMA). Your original file, will not be touched on your computer, and only your device will contain the modified file.
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So you mean you can buy mp3's from the phone and than just put it on the computer through Zune to have mp3 files there?

This restriction annoys me too, why not just have a pop up saying this is over 20meg, if you have a restricted data plan, it might be benifital to use Wifi or USB, do you want to continue?

For the mp3 i was unable to sync because i was trying top copy and drop them direcly from a usb drive to zune ... I bad to copy them on my computer first and then it worked

The 20mb limit is an operator restriction, not a phone one. It used to be 10mb...

how is it an operator restriction? wasnt limited on the HD2 though the same operate. its WP7 that limits it.

doministry said:
So you mean you can buy mp3's from the phone and than just put it on the computer through Zune to have mp3 files there?
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As long as you make sure you are buying MP3s from the Marketplace, then when your phone syncs with the Zune the next time you plug it into your computer, it'll sync that MP3 file to your computer.

prjkthack said:
As long as you make sure you are buying MP3s from the Marketplace, then when your phone syncs with the Zune the next time you plug it into your computer, it'll sync that MP3 file to your computer.
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Ok, got it....

doministry said:
Why users are not allowed to use their data plan to what they want to?
As for Zune - what about the music bought on the device?
It's not mp3?
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Because some carriers have low data limits (like AT&T's 2GB limit and chain installing a bunch of large applications uses up tons of data). On top of that, if your data connection drops, then the file will have to start downloading all over again, which can lead to ridiculous data usage in low reception areas. Android does the same thing (restarts the download if the connection drops or something happens).
Music brought from Zune on a PC is downloaded in 320 kbps MP3 format. Just buy from the computer. The MP3s are huge, though. Like 10-15+ Megs per song, due to the high bitrate and low compression.

N8ter said:
Because some carriers have low data limits (like AT&T's 2GB limit and chain installing a bunch of large applications uses up tons of data). On top of that, if your data connection drops, then the file will have to start downloading all over again, which can lead to ridiculous data usage in low reception areas. Android does the same thing (restarts the download if the connection drops or something happens).
Music brought from Zune on a PC is downloaded in 320 kbps MP3 format. Just buy from the computer. The MP3s are huge, though. Like 10-15+ Megs per song, due to the high bitrate and low compression.
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Well I know what mp3 is, I'm the musician
Anyway, WiFi can also drop, it actually happens more often.

How does connecting via. USB to download apps works? My PC is connected to the internet.
Phone connected - Check
Zune detects - Check
Login - Check
Browse Marketplace - Check
Buy Apps - Check
... then Zune says 'App will be downloaded soon'??!
Couldn't find any link to download in Zune. No option to sync Apps etc.
I have to:-
1. Disconnect phone from PC
2. Go to Marketplace and search for the App
3. Tap on Buy
4. "You've already purchased this. Would you like to install it again? message"
5. Tap on Install
6. Downloading starts
It's a hassle ... esp when I have bought a couple of apps.

doministry said:
Well I know what mp3 is, I'm the musician
Anyway, WiFi can also drop, it actually happens more often.
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WiFi can drop, yes, but downloading **** off WiFi doesn't go against your data count with the carrier, and you always have the option of downloading with your computer over WiFi or a wired connection and then Syncing your phone via WiFi or USB.
I wasn't telling you what MP3 is. Someone said the files were WMVs. The music you buy off Zune aren't. The Subscription music (DRM'd) are low bitrate WMV files and they weigh in at like 4-6MB each (average). The brought MP3 files are high bitrate and weigh in at 10-15MB each.
I'm simply stating that if you are in a low reception area, or an area where the 3G->2G->3G handoff causes issues with downloads, you can end up using like 40 MB to download one MP3 from the Zune Marketplace. That is a real issue for people with a 2G data plan because they will also be syncing email, social network data, streaming music off Zune, and probably getting documents off SkyDrive, uploading videos to YouTube (that you can do trivially via email), etc.
If that happens 10x a month, that can be 300MB of your 2GB data limit, which is not a trivial number. For people like me who live in low reception areas, it can easily be more than that.
I only get a 1G (GPRS) connection here (rarely bouncing to edge), so don't talk to me about WiFi dropping more than a data connection. I'd probably use a Gig of data in month downloading due to failed connections and the phone restarting the download. WiFi is infinitely more reliable than ANY data network in this area, and I'm only 7 miles out the city. I've bounced between all 4 major carriers. They're all equally terrible - two of them don't get a connection here AT ALL.

numero said:
How does connecting via. USB to download apps works? My PC is connected to the internet.
Phone connected - Check
Zune detects - Check
Login - Check
Browse Marketplace - Check
Buy Apps - Check
... then Zune says 'App will be downloaded soon'??!
Couldn't find any link to download in Zune. No option to sync Apps etc.
I have to:-
1. Disconnect phone from PC
2. Go to Marketplace and search for the App
3. Tap on Buy
4. "You've already purchased this. Would you like to install it again? message"
5. Tap on Install
6. Downloading starts
It's a hassle ... esp when I have bought a couple of apps.
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from what I have seen, if you download apps to your computer, then sync your phone, then they will show up in the marketplace on the first screen, bottom left corner, it will tell you. click on it and you can install them.

N8ter said:
WiFi can drop, yes, but downloading **** off WiFi doesn't go against your data count with the carrier, and you always have the option of downloading with your computer over WiFi or a wired connection and then Syncing your phone via WiFi or USB.
I wasn't telling you what MP3 is. Someone said the files were WMVs. The music you buy off Zune aren't. The Subscription music (DRM'd) are low bitrate WMV files and they weigh in at like 4-6MB each (average). The brought MP3 files are high bitrate and weigh in at 10-15MB each.
I'm simply stating that if you are in a low reception area, or an area where the 3G->2G->3G handoff causes issues with downloads, you can end up using like 40 MB to download one MP3 from the Zune Marketplace. That is a real issue for people with a 2G data plan because they will also be syncing email, social network data, streaming music off Zune, and probably getting documents off SkyDrive, uploading videos to YouTube (that you can do trivially via email), etc.
If that happens 10x a month, that can be 300MB of your 2GB data limit, which is not a trivial number. For people like me who live in low reception areas, it can easily be more than that.
I only get a 1G (GPRS) connection here (rarely bouncing to edge), so don't talk to me about WiFi dropping more than a data connection. I'd probably use a Gig of data in month downloading due to failed connections and the phone restarting the download. WiFi is infinitely more reliable than ANY data network in this area, and I'm only 7 miles out the city. I've bounced between all 4 major carriers. They're all equally terrible - two of them don't get a connection here AT ALL.
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So you see, different experience here.
My carrier is very stable most of the time. And fast.
Most of WiFi I use is unstable.
SO, I still think user should be able to decide what size of files are downloaded.
To control it's own device and react according to situation.
Again, treating users like idiots. That's why they cannot learn anything more sofisticated later on.
And using computer, well, that was not part of the question.

doministry said:
Again, treating users like idiots. That's why they cannot learn anything more sofisticated later on.
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To this I say, most users are idiots. Maybe not us here on XDA (at least, most of us), but the majority of people who buy phones do not spend their late evenings browsing the forums of places like this one.
Most people are absolute idiots and the reason why they don't learn is because they refuse to learn, not because someone didn't provide "advanced" options. Everything must be done for them or else they are completely dissatisfied. So to this end, Windows Phone 7 is far more fool-proof than say Windows Mobile 6.5 or Android, and that is simply because most people are idiots. I do wish Microsoft would provide more options, but at this early in the game, we've gotta take what we got and run with it. More options will come as the OS matures, so just hang tight.
You know how we learn? We learn because of these limitations. If these limitations did not exist, we'd have no need for XDA or similar sites. So while I'd love more options, I love the fact that the lack of some options allows us to learn new things and gives people the motivation to learn and solve these issues.
We are, only human, after all.

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I can stream my ENTIRE multimedia library (which is stored on my home Windows 7 machine) to my phone. Flawlessly.
Music AND video files!
All the work is done server side, so it'll transcode (on the fly) files into whatever bitrate mp3 you specify.
For video, I have it set up to transcode into flash video, which works FLAWLESSLY on the Epic Touch!
The Android app can be set to cache ahead so if you lose a data signal your music is still there.
This combined with WoL magic packets means I can remotely turn on my home PC and have instant access to gigabytes - nay, terabytes - of media.
Take THAT iCrap! (Actually, there's iOS clients too, though they'd have trouble with the flash video....)

one of my favorite apps.

love the app, but why? dd-wrt router, vpn setup, network shares... my phone sees it as if i got 1TB sdcard

frifox said:
love the app, but why? dd-wrt router, vpn setup, network shares... my phone sees it as if i got 1TB sdcard
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cool, i bet you'd rather me have access to your subsonic server than your network shares.
there's 25 or so of my friends that have access to my Subsonic with bitrate settings etc, its incomparable.
i have an apple & an orange if you want to debate their similarities.

Yeah, a network share is cool and has it's advantages, but this is something completely different.
On the fly transcoding and cache ahead are huge - especially for drives through the mountains where data is slow / non-existent.
I really like being able to give anyone access too.
Drdrewdon, do you know if it's possible to set up user-level access control? Ex. User a can see all folders but user b can only see one folder?

There arn't user rights yet, but its a common request from what I see.
You can also get gap-less playback on your droid by creating a new transcoder for ogg with a single step 'oggenc --quiet --quality=9 -o - %s'. Then set the player for your doid to use only that transcoder. Now you are streaming ogg instead of mp3.

Cant get this app to connect for some reason. Anyone have any setup instructions?

dabezt1 said:
Cant get this app to connect for some reason. Anyone have any setup instructions?
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can't connect to your own subsonic server? explain what you've done so far

I Figured it out, I had to change some of the settings on my router. The app is great but Im liking Audio galaxy a little bit better, besides the fact there is no options to add users.

How can I have my music automatically downloaded?

Here's the situation...
My wife wants to listen to music at work without using the data plan. She would like to have all of her music on the phone at all times. When she rips CDs (yes she still buys CDs) or buys new music on Amazon she'd like it to just show up on her phone. The CD rips and Amazon purchases go to a folder on a PC which automatically gets uploaded to Google. She has 9500 songs and a 128gb card so there's no space issue. I have tried two plans but am not happy with either one. If you have any ideas I'd appreciate it.
Plan 1:
Use Google Play Music. The only way I could figure out how to get all of her music to her phone was to create a playlist that had every song in it and then click on the download icon. That works but it's static. Any new songs aren't downloaded and she must manually go in and download any new songs. That doesn't make her happy. (Happy wife, happy life.)
Plan 2:
Use any other MP3 music player. Lots of good choices out there. However, maintaining the music is a pain in the buttocks. To get the files there initially I just put the 128g chip in my computer and drag all of the files to the chip. That works. But I can't find out a way to get new songs onto the chip without manual intervention. I thought I could use a folder sync application but none of them have the authority to write to the external SD card (thank you Google) and new files won't get to the SD card without a lot of manual hand holding. That's a no go. I guess I could root and then use a folder sync application but this is her phone, not mine, and I'm not going there.
So, if any of you have any brainiac solutions, I'd love to hear them.

Have you played with Samsung link yet? It will allow you to link your (her) phone to your computer (provided it's turned on and connected to the internet) so any new music loaded on to the computer will be available to the phone.

TabGuy said:
Here's the situation...
My wife wants to listen to music at work without using the data plan. She would like to have all of her music on the phone at all times. When she rips CDs (yes she still buys CDs) or buys new music on Amazon she'd like it to just show up on her phone. The CD rips and Amazon purchases go to a folder on a PC which automatically gets uploaded to Google. She has 9500 songs and a 128gb card so there's no space issue. I have tried two plans but am not happy with either one. If you have any ideas I'd appreciate it.
Plan 1:
Use Google Play Music. The only way I could figure out how to get all of her music to her phone was to create a playlist that had every song in it and then click on the download icon. That works but it's static. Any new songs aren't downloaded and she must manually go in and download any new songs. That doesn't make her happy. (Happy wife, happy life.)
Plan 2:
Use any other MP3 music player. Lots of good choices out there. However, maintaining the music is a pain in the buttocks. To get the files there initially I just put the 128g chip in my computer and drag all of the files to the chip. That works. But I can't find out a way to get new songs onto the chip without manual intervention. I thought I could use a folder sync application but none of them have the authority to write to the external SD card (thank you Google) and new files won't get to the SD card without a lot of manual hand holding. That's a no go. I guess I could root and then use a folder sync application but this is her phone, not mine, and I'm not going there.
So, if any of you have any brainiac solutions, I'd love to hear them.
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I use iTunes and isyncr. Haven't tried it with an external SD but does what you want. Syncs just new tracks. Only had iTunes cause I came from iPhone but to me is the best for managing playlists.

stevenj05 said:
I use iTunes and isyncr. Haven't tried it with an external SD but does what you want. Syncs just new tracks. Only had iTunes cause I came from iPhone but to me is the best for managing playlists.
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I went with plan 1. Turns out that to download music a playlist can only have 1,000 songs. I created 10 playlist to get all of the filed to her phone. Sending new music is relatively easy as there's a "recently added" playlist to use to download new music.
Plan 2 doesn't work well as KitKat and external SD cards are not user friendly.

I use SyncMe Wireless to transfer all files to my phone anymore. You can set a schedule to automatically sync any file from a shared folder on your PC to any directory on your device (not sure about an external sd card, i just use the internal storage). It's worked seamlessly for me. I just drop files in my "Send to Android" folder I made on my computer and in the middle of every night it will check to see if files need to be sent over. It can work in reverse too and send files from your phone to your PC.
Here's the link to the app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bv.wifisync&hl=en
It's nothing too flashy but it works very well. :good: