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No Stranger to Android. However it is usually on a rooted phone. Now here my scenario. We are looking at issuing Defy's to our inspectors, however we would like to remove the bloatware apps such as Blockbuster, etc. So my question is whether or not there is a way to remove the apps without rooting the phones. I truthfully don't even care if its a paid app we need to do. Thanks!
You can't remove the bloatware without rooting but you could always root the phone using z4root, remove the bloatware and set things up how you like, install the custom recovery, create a backup of the rom then flash it to each of the phones and unroot them.
Yeah.....I was afraid of that. I figured that was the easiest way, but trying to explain that to the director is not going to be fun. At that point I might as well convince him to let me put Froyo or Gingerbread on it. hehe
z4root has a "temporary root" button, and when you reboot root is lost. Unninstall z4root and nothing happened
Perilla_ said:
z4root has a "temporary root" button, and when you reboot root is lost. Unninstall z4root and nothing happened
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Sorry threadstarter for hijacking ur thread, but can you temporary root and remove all those unwanted applications and unroot it ? Is it possible ?
Yes, two options with z4root:
Temporary root: Install program, hit temporary root, remove all the baaaad stuff, reboot, uninstall z4root.
Permanent root: Install program, hit permanent root, remove all the ****, hit un-root, uninstall z4root.
Someone can say me if I am wrong?
Ok so I have z4Root installed and have rooted. Now how do I go about uninstalling apps I don't want. I looked under "Manage Applications" but all I see there are appps that I've installed.
Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out.
Edit: Nope still confused. Cant seem to find the "uninstall" button.
To remove unwanted stuff, the easy way is using rootexplorer, renaming the extension app from apk to bak for example. System apps are in /system/app.
You can too use adb, but it requires more knowledge.
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As another follow up question on this. Is it possible to lock the phone down so that they cannot install any other apps on the phone? I know we could prolly lock the market, but we want it open just in case. Sorry.... never really explored using Android in a corporate enviroment and trying to enforce all the rules that you have under Blackberry and WinMo. Thanks!
Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
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Hey All,
For Work I need to install the app Good for Enterprise so I can get my calendar and work email pushed to my phone. Unfortunately it is company policy that it be unrooted. Presumeably a security issue. Is it possible to unroot a custom rom? i'd rather not go back to stock for the simple reason of app storage. I love A2SD+ and being able to have as many apps as I want installed. Also nandroid backups, that would go away without root too wouldn;t it? Can I just remove the SU.apk? Will that suffice to be "unrooted"? Is that even possible?
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If you want to unroot, you'll need to go back to stock.
The reason they want unrooted phones, is not so much a security issue, as it is they just don't understand or don't wish to deal with possible problems.
If you backup your apps and data you can run the official RUU, and it will put the original unrooted system to your phone. I don't know other method.
Here are the official ROMs: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Removing the SU binaries will unroot you, I don't see the need as to why you have to be unrooted though.
apparently you can't use the new movie-rental feature of google's market, when you are rooted.
Is it possible to stick to a custom rom but unroot it, so that google recognises your phone as a not-rooted device and allows you to watch movies from market?
I don't need root-permissions every day - in fact I only need it for Titanium Backup, so deleting su-binaries and/or superuser.apk would be ok - but it must be possible to restore them (via recovery/adb) to run TB.
This probably isn't what google wants you to do since you can download the movie to watch later and if you have a working recovery you probably could get you hands on the downloaded files, but still - would be nice, if this was possible.
Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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Easiest way to unroot and go back to stock is to stick a PB99IMG.zip on your sdcard, and turn your phone on with volume held down
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Demonic idea
kuroneko007 said:
How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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I like your idea mate! Hahahahahaha....
Edit: Bad boy! Bad bad boy! hahahahahahahaha....
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How about this:
1) Go back to stock ROM via RUU
2) Install Good For Enterprise (I guess your IT department installs this, so they can check you are not rooted?)
3) ROOT the stock ROM using UnRevoked
4) Take a Titanium Backup of Good For Enterprise
5) Re-install your custom ROM
6) Restore the Titanium Backup of GfE
-> You have a rooted, custom ROM with GfE installed. And your company will never know!
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Has anyone ever tested this?
Or why don't you just delete superuser via adb or android commander
good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
List:
/system/app/superuser
/system/bin/su
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I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
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yep this works perfectly.
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I tried this method, renamed the 2 files. It has been working for last 24 hours. I'll update again after a week if it still works..
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yep this works perfectly.
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You renamed SU.apk to SU.apk.bak most likely...
What did you rename the libs file to?
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good for enterprise checks for root access/ su every time it starts. It's not an issue of not being able to install the app. It's available for free on the market. The problem is when entering all your info and starting it up, it checks for SU.
I am guessing the best way around this is to install custom rom, set everything up that you need that requires SU/root. Then delete all the su/root related files. Then install Good.
Unfortunately I don't have a list of all the files that have to be deleted for this to work.
There have been reports that other users who have tried this method got it to work but the App stopped syncing after a few days.
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I have rooted my HTC Salsa to get apps2sd which is great, but now my mobile banking app says it will not work on a rooted device, similar to your issue.
I am new to android modding, what commands do i need to enter where to rename the files you mention ?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
wont work good enterprises would more than likely check every time like sky go. you would have to removed a2sd command line i think and all su binarys ( and su.akp ( difficult as its normally a system app and once one of the su has been removed you dont have premition to remove the other/
and to the donunt who said ( the dont understand root) wanna cookie 0. basicly good enterprise is a secure web client for companys to send information to mobiles, i have it on my work (iphone) <<<< scummmy.. anyways as root gives to the option to do what ever you or anyone else wants with the phone in theory you could use that system to breack the law or for instance chaindd could possible put an update in to su that will take data from the company> for google videos ) well with root you can screen record ( basicly ) excuse the spelling im trying to find out how to un root and keep all of my system ui mods and themes and my rom ( proving difficult)
hey I know that this is based on a old post but I have a question did you ever find out how to unroot a custom rom that is pre-rooted?
Hey guys! So I had a Samsung vibrant for years before I got a 920 and rooted it. I would then of course flash roms every week. I looked over the main features of the Roms coming out for the new nexus 7 and don't see anything that I can't already do, but I may he wrong. Can you tell me what is unlocked if I root my amazing new n7? (Apps I can use if rooted , features, etc) Thanks!
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I am more than happy to answer that question for you. First: I want to shed a little light on what 'rooting' a device means, and what flashing new ROMs entails.
First and foremost: root is not required to flash new ROMs. Having root access to the file system is having full control and rights to your files. Think of it like having an Administrator account in Windows. You're free to manipulate all files on your device, including core system files, which is why you don't have root access by default; the normal end-user wouldn't know which system files do what and could delete a very important file that could soft-brick their device, or could download a malicious app that would do the same (think of it as a virus in Windows)(Protip: if you only download apps from the Play store, you're good).
Second: the only thing required to flash a new ROM is your bootloader to be unlocked, and maybe a custom recovery is required, I'm not too familiar with the stock recovery and whether or not you can flash .zips from there. Unlocking your bootloader enables you to flash unsigned images to your device, a custom ROM in this case. Here's where the confusion happens: when you flash a new ROM, it overwrites your old ROM, including the superuser status you had. Most custom ROMs have root enabled by default, which is why it seems like your old root access carried over. Think of flashing a new ROM as re-installing Windows on your computer. All of your old profiles are erased and you need to set up new ones. Having root access is like setting up your Administrator profile and using it.
Third: the benefits of rooting. I personally use root specifically for Titanium Backup, Cerberus, ES File Explorer, and franco.Kernel updater. If you don't know what those apps do, I'll explain. Titanium Backup backs up all of my apps so when I flash a new ROM, I can easily restore them, instead of having to manually re-install them from the Play store which takes time and sometimes, data. TB needs root because it's installing apps on your device automatically (after you tell it to). You can see why you would need root there. Cerberus is an anti-theft app, which needs root to remotely activate sensors like GPS, camera, take screenshots, show messages, get device info, etc. Again, you could see why root would be needed there: security. ES File Explorer (any root explorer app) needs root because, well, so you can see and manipulate files that you need superuser status to do those things. I use it for many miscellaneous reasons such as renaming my nandroid backups. franco.Kernel updater I use to tweak my kernel settings.
Now, I'm not trying to convince you to root. That is a decision that should be made by you. Having root comes with potentially negative consequences. You could mess up your ROM. The chances are very slim, and very reversible (worst-case scenario: flash new ROM), but still very real. If you don't know your way around the bootloader, or how to restore factory images to the device, it could be frustrating to fix a soft-brick caused by system files being manipulated. Still, you have XDA, full of helpful people and plenty of guides and if you have the patience to read and listen to advice, you should be able to learn how to fix your problem, should one arise.
Ok, sum-up. Having "root" is like having Administrator rights on Windows. Installing ROMs is like re-installing Windows on your computer. Recovery is like the BIOS on your computer. Therefor, root is not required to flash a new ROM, only your bootloader unlocked (possibly custom recovery). Root is nice to have, and poses almost zero risk to hard-bricking your device. Having root could soft-brick your device if you don't know what you're doing, however, and could potentially be very frustrating if you don't know your way around the bootloader and/or recovery. If you have the patience to learn or listen to advice, it can be fixed though. It's up to you to weigh the risks and rewards. One thing to keep in mind: if you only download apps from the Play store, you should be 100% A-Ok to have root. The only way to soft-brick your device then, is if you're in there poking around with files you shouldn't be messing with (so, user-error). If you do decide to root and/or flash new ROM's, I'd advise in doing it manually at first instead of using toolkits. That way, you can see what's happening, which could come in handy if something should come up later.
Well said, Johnmama.
Basically, the #1 reason I root is Titanium Backup. I do also use some additional root apps, like ES File Explorer, but I could live without them. Titanium Backup is the ONE app that I will not do without.
The majority of custom ROMs already come prerooted.
Hi, I'm noob as well as my english.sorry for this. I've just rooted may xperia M, everything OK:good::good: Thank you very much for the guide:good::good::good:
Now, I'm would like to remove factory pre-installed apps. I really don't know which of them is possible to remove.I wonder if it is possible to remve Play memories online, Music unlimited, video unlimited, maps google play movies or youtube, google play books, xperia link, xperia Music links, Facebook, talkbac, kxperia friends music, xperia extension for throw, xperia social engine photosXperia Apps, Sharexperia social engine, Sharing Xperia, FB Setup,,About palystation and much much mor tahat i wonder if they are really necessary.
Thank you
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Hi, I'm noob as well as my english.sorry for this. I've just rooted may xperia M, everything OK:good::good: Thank you very much for the guide:good::good::good:
Now, I'm would like to remove factory pre-installed apps. I really don't know which of them is possible to remove.I wonder if it is possible to remve Play memories online, Music unlimited, video unlimited, maps google play movies or youtube, google play books, xperia link, xperia Music links, Facebook, talkbac, kxperia friends music, xperia extension for throw, xperia social engine photosXperia Apps, Sharexperia social engine, Sharing Xperia, FB Setup,,About palystation and much much mor tahat i wonder if they are really necessary.
Thank you
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No matter what, could you please add a meaningful and precise title to this thread? A thread with no title really doesn't help anything.
You can remove stuff like Xperia Link
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Hi...
You can use titanium backup app. It can be used to back up apps. You can remove unwanted stock apps present. Its safe to back up n then remove apps.. hope this helps
Remove/Freeze Apps
You can definitely remove apps from your android device if its rooted. But there's a possibility that you might require those apps sometime in the future, so if space isint a problem for you, i'd advise you to freeze those apps. Freezing those apps can be done through LINK2SD app, which can be found in the play store. You can just click on the app select actions and select freeze. This will prevent the app from running/executing. But will remain installed on your phone. So its as good as "deleting" the app. But whenever required, you can just go back, and unfreeze the app and start using it from where you left it. This is a method i prefer more because you never know when you might need an app. And you needn't even reboot for changes to take effect.
If you're bent on uninstalling a system app, then you can use Titanium Backup or ES File Manager (Both of which are found in play store).
I personally have freezed the following apps... They consume RAM in the background and are of little value to me...
Devices, Drag&Share, Email, Exchange Services, Google Play Magazines, Screen Mirroring, Smart Connect, Sony Select, Xperia app Share, Xperia Calendar Sync, Xperia FB Setup, Xperia Friends Music, Xperia FB Proxy, Xperia Twitter Proxy, Xperia Social Engine Photos FB, Social Engine Picasaweb, Xperia Social Engine Sharing, Xperia Twitter Setup.
Removing app from Xpera M 1905 & general advices
Many thanks everybody for your fast replies.
First of all, alvinhochun, I apologize. I'm very sorry, it seems I am more noob than I'd thought. It will not happen again, "I hope". Antrikos48, thank you for your advice.
vivek p08, I've already installed Titatunium. At this moment I'm trying to learn how to make a complete backup of my device to my pc instead of the sd card. I want to backup the rom or firmware as well (I don't know the difference). It is just to prevent just in case I brick my phone. I've read it is necessary to revival the phone. (flash it with the original factory set up).
ckrishnakanthc, thank you for your clear and detailed explanation. I wonder if it would be possible to freeze apps, using settings-application- open the app an disable. I've read that LINK2SD app, is very useful to move things to the sd card, too. Actually, I'm trying to get more ram memory. I'm reading and leaning more about all this stuff. Finally, I'll try to swap Internal Memory to External following the guide in the forum. In the meanwhile, I'll begin to freeze apps and back up the entire phone (rom -firmware). Then, I'll start working on swap internal memory to sd card. I'll try to get more ram. I don't know if it is necessary to make sd card partition to get it. But first of all, I should understand what it means xd.
FYI some people posted FTF (firmware) files on the forums but if you want your own use clockworkmod. If you need help swapping the storage I can help you as I've already done it.
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FYI some people posted FTF (firmware) files on the forums but if you want your own use clockworkmod. If you need help swapping the storage I can help you as I've already done it.
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Thank you very much for your offer, I would appreciate your help a lot. Firstly, I'm going to to make a copy of my FW. I've downloaded a C1905 15.1.C.1.17 aerialus indo FW. Now, I'm going to use clockworkmod,to backup my FW, as you recommend me . My next step, will be swap the memory though I really scare to brick my phone
Try the commands on a terminal emulator first before making them on boot. That way there's no way of bricking or reboot looping. Just make sure you have full root.
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Try the commands on a terminal emulator first before making them on boot. That way there's no way of bricking or reboot looping. Just make sure you have full root.
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Hi. Antrikos48, Although, I look forward to be able to do all this, for the moment, I don't have enough knowledge. It gives me a little shame, but I'm still trying to understand how to make the backup with clockworkmod. I do not understand the difference between FW and Rom and I don't know what is an emulator. Currently, I'm still trying to find out which apps should I use to backup the phone: ClockworkMod Tether (non-root) or Rom Manager .I'm absolutely messed up. For now, I'll try to get a backup. Again, I thank your offer and all the help you offer me. Perhaps, you could help telling me what to read first, which post, etc.
Thanks
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Hi. Antrikos48, Although, I look forward to be able to do all this, for the moment, I don't have enough knowledge. It gives me a little shame, but I'm still trying to understand how to make the backup with clockworkmod. I do not understand the difference between FW and Rom and I don't know what is an emulator. Currently, I'm still trying to find out which apps should I use to backup the phone: ClockworkMod Tether (non-root) or Rom Manager .I'm absolutely messed up. For now, I'll try to get a backup. Again, I thank your offer and all the help you offer me. Perhaps, you could help telling me what to read first, which post, etc.
Thanks
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CWM for Xperia M.
Use Titanium Backup to backup your apps.
Terminal Emulator I was referring to.
Reading this can help.
Lol, yeah Disable function too works pretty much the same way, but you should understand that
1. A downloaded app cannot be disabled. For example, if you have downloaded Subway Surfers, or some such app, it can be Force Stopped, or Uninstalled. You cannot Disable.
2. Not all pre-installed apps can be disabled, for example you'll notice that you can go to settings>apps>all and you can disable themes and many others, but you cannot disable stuff like about playstation certified, etc..
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Lol, yeah Disable function too works pretty much the same way, but you should understand that
1. A downloaded app cannot be disabled. For example, if you have downloaded Subway Surfers, or some such app, it can be Force Stopped, or Uninstalled. You cannot Disable.
2. Not all pre-installed apps can be disabled, for example you'll notice that you can go to settings>apps>all and you can disable themes and many others, but you cannot disable stuff like about playstation certified, etc..
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Yes, you're pretty right. I did it with root uninstaller Pro and woked fine. I'm still trying to understand the android system ( I'm comming from a nokia 5800)
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CWM for Xperia M.
Use Titanium Backup to backup your apps.
Terminal Emulator I was referring to.
Reading this can help.
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Thank you a very useful link.
I accidentally removed my system apps. HELP!
I accidentally removed many important apps through "System App Remover (Root)". And now when im trying to open it and restore them from recycle bin, it keps crashing. Most of my apps (even settings) are not even opeing. Please, help me, i dont care if my data stays or not but help me revive my phone.
I want to start this off by saying that i am totally new to rooting and anything that pertains to phone customization. But i can follow directions very well aslong as they are in lamens terms. I enjoy learning and want to continue to absorb all i can along the way. I dont play games on my phone, i watch movies sometimes, so i am looking to just be able to customize my phones appearance and have it run smooth and fast. So if anybody can lead me in the right direction i appreciate your time and consideration..
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I want to start this off by saying that i am totally new to rooting and anything that pertains to phone customization. But i can follow directions very well aslong as they are in lamens terms. I enjoy learning and want to continue to absorb all i can along the way. I dont play games on my phone, i watch movies sometimes, so i am looking to just be able to customize my phones appearance and have it run smooth and fast. So if anybody can lead me in the right direction i appreciate your time and consideration..
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To truly use root, I would suggest a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM. Then you can flash custom AOSP roms. These ROMS are highly customizable from the settings menu. Always backup your stock setup 1st, in case a ROM doesn't work properly. You can customize without flashing recovery or custom ROM. There are many apps in Google play that require root access, such as ROM toolbox that has a ton of options. You can download adaware off the internet to remove most ads you get on your phone. Also root explorer in Google play will allow you to remove apps you don't use from the system, but be careful with this, because you can bork your phone from removing certain apps, escpecially Google apps.
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To truly use root, I would suggest a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM. Then you can flash custom AOSP roms. These ROMS are highly customizable from the settings menu. Always backup your stock setup 1st, in case a ROM doesn't work properly. You can customize without flashing recovery or custom ROM. There are many apps in Google play that require root access, such as ROM toolbox that has a ton of options. You can download adaware off the internet to remove most ads you get on your phone. Also root explorer in Google play will allow you to remove apps you don't use from the system, but be careful with this, because you can bork your phone from removing certain apps, escpecially Google apps.
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TO BACK UP MY PHONE AFTER ROOT I SIMPLY DO IT IN RECOVERY SETTING?(holding the volume up? right?) and i used the goku tutorial to root( it worked first time!!) and it suggested to nanodroid back up? i wasnt sure but im assuming it is talking about recvery back it up using the philz screen right?