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I have a PDA2K and am being driven mad by my inbox getting emptied.
I have my home pc outlook express set on leave a copy of messages on server.
When I receive an email on the imate it goes into my inbox - great
When I look at mail on my home pc - it also goes into my inbox - great
When I next do a send & receive on the imate it removes the email I have received on the pc from the imate inbox
Is this normal?
Can I keep my Imate inbox intact and delete only what I want to?
Apols if this has been covered before - I have searched but am going crazy
TIA
Paul
half the problem is sorted
I discovered that I was not leaving a copy of my messages on my email server because I had 2 outlook express accounts going for the same mail and only one was configured to leave a copy on the server
However I would still like to know if it is possible to keep my Imate inbox intact (& under my control) even when the messages are no longer on my pop3 server
Paul
Email being deleted
Is there not a tick box in Pocket Outlook on your iMate that chooses whether email is deleted on PC? In email account settings or something like that.....Don't have my 2i with me so not entirely sure, but think it right. :?
Still perplexed
Hi Shane
I am using the Pop3 mail but even when I tried Outlook I cannot find any option like this
Are there any other users who have an Inbox that does not de-populate
Thanks
Paul
On Server
what email provider do you use? I'm use gmail, and "leave downloaded email on server" option is on email setting. You should log on on your email account and go to setting, search for "leave downloaded email on server", thick on it. :wink:
Thanks
Yes I have set the server to leave a copy - however after around 3 months they will be deleted when my mailbox gets full. I presume they will then be deleted off my I-mate. What I want is a way to permantantly store them in my Inbox unless I manually delete them.
Paul
It sounds like exactly the same issue I have.
I have one PC where I download my emails to - which deletes off server once downloaded. This is fine.
Though on my XDA2i when I go to the POP3 account in messaging I can see all my emails - but when I attempt a send/receive, it deletes all previous emails from the inbox and donwloads any new if there are any.
It is like it is synchronizing the inboxes of what is on server. This should not be the case - I would expect this behaviour if it was setup to be IMAP , but not POP3.
Thanks
I agree nsm - it behaves differently to other Pop3 accounts - I wonder if there is a way to send the inbox to SD storage and protect it that way.
The whole lot went again today when I set up a pop3 a/c on a new pc at work and forgot to leave a copy of messages on server
The only (in-elegant) way round this I have found is to create a new folder on my Imate called inbox copy and manually copy the important messages over as they arrive.
Surely there must be an easier way
Paul
Me too
Hey,
I am facing the exact same problem as u guys... moment I download the entire mail... Even aster I check the leave a copy on the server checkbox. Is there a way to keep the mails?
In messages/inbox on your Blue Angel, tap accounts and then accounts again.
Tap the Storage tab at the bottom of the screen
make sure that delete items is set to manual. Otherwise the emails are deleted automatically when it sees that they are no longer on the server.
Also, try setting the email account to show all messages, and not just from the last x days (in advanced settings for each account)
It's usually these two that cause this.
have you tried...
setting "receive message headers only" on the handheld? This works fine for me...
rhedgehog - thanks - have made sure items are only deleted manually
quote "Also, try setting the email account to show all messages, and not just from the last x days (in advanced settings for each account) "
Is this setting on the pda
Paul
Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:
The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!
Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.
Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.
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jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve
Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743
Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.
4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks
You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.
And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.
4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.
When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.
4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me
I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.
paulrockliffe said:
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!
HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks
I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.
See post 3 for update
If i create appointments on the phone and save them, they are put in outlook out box and not sent. I ave gmail imap setup and cant seem to get it to take over for the calendar. Current rom in sig
carhigh said:
If i create appointments on the phone and save them, they are put in outlook out box and not sent. I ave gmail imap setup and cant seem to get it to take over for the calendar. Current rom in sig
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I have a really really awesome answer for you.
Don't setup your email anymore, just go here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
This will setup an Exchange-like server and will enable you to do that. At least I am pretty sure that isn't what you are already doing, because this will setup the email and sync Calendar, Contacts and Email with PUSH. Let me know if you need any help.
I dont think you understood the problem, but thanks for reading and suggesting something.
Part of the issue is resolved. We can now add to the calendar and it sends the email to those attendee's we add to that event, thru our gmail accounts. How i fixed that was going into the office folder and using the calendar link in there. In menu/tool/options, appointments page, there is a "send meeting requests via: (email account)". I just changed it from outlook email to our gmail account. So now it sends them out with the gmail account rather than sitting in the outlook outbox.
THE NEXT ISSUE is that when anyone sends you a meeting request, from outlook(pc) OR from the phones calendar thru gmail, if you recieve that request on the phone, there are no buttons to "accept/tentative/decline/propose new time", like there is in outlook pc. It just comes in as a regular email that looks very useless. The only way to accept or decline is to read the email in outlook on the pc where you have buttons "accept/tentative/decline/propose new time".
carhigh said:
I dont think you understood the problem, but thanks for reading and suggesting something.
Part of the issue is resolved. We can now add to the calendar and it sends the email to those attendee's we add to that event, thru our gmail accounts. How i fixed that was going into the office folder and using the calendar link in there. In menu/tool/options, appointments page, there is a "send meeting requests via: (email account)". I just changed it from outlook email to our gmail account. So now it sends them out with the gmail account rather than sitting in the outlook outbox.
THE NEXT ISSUE is that when anyone sends you a meeting request, from outlook(pc) OR from the phones calendar thru gmail, if you recieve that request on the phone, there are no buttons to "accept/tentative/decline/propose new time", like there is in outlook pc. It just comes in as a regular email that looks very useless. The only way to accept or decline is to read the email in outlook on the pc where you have buttons "accept/tentative/decline/propose new time".
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Actually, I did understand the issue.
You aren't setting the email up correctly. If it is showing up as Gmail, and not Outlook it isn't setup for Exchange. You need to remove that account and follow my link to setup Exchange features...
Im not following you on this exchange stuff. What does an exchange have to do with poutlook not showing an email with the same options as outlook on the pc?
ok i just set this up on phone. active sync on phone says attention required.
result: the config on your exchange server prevents you from sync'ing. please contact your serv admin.
BUT getting and sending email is working right. Syncing is working for email.
Creating a calendar event and adding attenees is not working at all now. The emails never go out. Sending an event to myself from my wifes phone somes into the phone the (no good). But comes into my outlook pc correctly
Setting up sync has its own issues. I sent an event from my phone to my wifes phone. Oh joy, i get an html page i can accept with on her imap email.
I accepted it on the wifes phone and it NEVER went onto her calendar on the phone. Which leads me to beleive she must have sync setup too. What a joke!!!!!
It would be so much easier if google mail would include the MS office option buttons for reading and responding to event emails.
Not only that, but now i have to create events either on the phone, or in google cal. I can not setup events in outlook and have them all sync UNLESS i pay and use google apps.
Google has a big problem with MS. If i send an event to a google account, if i read that event email in gmail, its also striped of any way to open or respond.
The way this works best if WANTING to use gmail and outlook, while still wanting to use outlook for events cal, is to only reply, respond or accept events within outlook on the pc.
/joke
You have to ONLY select Contacts, Calendar and Mail. Try that and let me know if you still get that Att Required... Also, if all else fails I can give you my email and we can test it that way.
i've got my own beautiful desire.
wonderfuk thing, but i've got a problem.
i've got 3 email accounts from hotmail and 1 gmail in my phone.
it all works great, and i like it very much.
except for 1 thing, if a delete a message on the server, my phone still saves it.
i want it so sync and delete the messages that are removed from the server.
i check my mail during the day with my phone, at night i check it on my laptop.
there are often emails in my inbox that are rubish, so i delete them.
usually i do this at night (don't know why, but i just like to do my paperwork at night).
so when i want to check my email during the day, my phone syncs with the account i select but still shows all the email i deleted.
so i have to manually delete them from my phone.
i hate this stupid way they made this.
why in *****'s name would i want to save a message that i deleted from the server?
does anybody have a solution to this problem?
because there aren't a lot of good email clients for android.
supervinnie40 said:
i've got my own beautiful desire.
wonderfuk thing, but i've got a problem.
i've got 3 email accounts from hotmail and 1 gmail in my phone.
it all works great, and i like it very much.
except for 1 thing, if a delete a message on the server, my phone still saves it.
i want it so sync and delete the messages that are removed from the server.
i check my mail during the day with my phone, at night i check it on my laptop.
there are often emails in my inbox that are rubish, so i delete them.
usually i do this at night (don't know why, but i just like to do my paperwork at night).
so when i want to check my email during the day, my phone syncs with the account i select but still shows all the email i deleted.
so i have to manually delete them from my phone.
i hate this stupid way they made this.
why in *****'s name would i want to save a message that i deleted from the server?
does anybody have a solution to this problem?
because there aren't a lot of good email clients for android.
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+ 1 here; my deleted emails are also shown :-(
What type of email you have setup?
POP3, IMAP?
POP3 will not delete emails (if you delete an email from server, it will stay on the device, and vice versa).
In IMAP, if you delete email from server, it will be deleted from the device too (or vice versa -> device-server, on the next sync)
like is said, it's hotmail so it's pop3.
who came up with the brilliant idea to sync imap and not sync pop3?
again, one of those things i so ****ing hate with software.
why does my windows vista mail program (on the laptop) sync beautifully with my account, but not my android mail program?
is android just to retarded to understand how to sync with pop3?
the day somebody comes up with a program that just works.....
it just pisses me off that nothing with the desire is made to be just right, every little rotten thing needs tweaking to make it work right.
ljesh said:
What type of email you have setup?
POP3, IMAP?
POP3 will not delete emails (if you delete an email from server, it will stay on the device, and vice versa).
In IMAP, if you delete email from server, it will be deleted from the device too (or vice versa -> device-server, on the next sync)
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..hm I came from a windows mobile device and I synched the same account; deleting an email in outlook has been also deleted on the device - and vice versa!
It's not about android, Desire, or Windows XP. It's how POP3 works.
Even if you setup the same account on 2 different PCs as POP3, you wont be able to delete emails from one PC to the other.
What I suggest is enabling IMAP on gmail and see how it goes.
cyron_at said:
..hm I came from a windows mobile device and I synched the same account; deleting an email in outlook has been also deleted on the device - and vice versa!
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If it's a gmail account and it used to work on WM but not on Android, then I would delete and re-add the account. My gmail account works great. I delete or mark as read an email on my PC or webmail, and the same goes to my Desire on the next sync.
If we're talking about personal domain (not gmail, hotmail...), then during setup in the Mail application choose the IMAP protocol.
that still deosn't solve the issue with hotmail on the desire.
hotmail is pop3, doesn't do imap.
but it works great with windows mobile.
on android it works like it's just rubbish.
I don't know about that really, I don't use hotmail.
I use gmail, and personal domain/server.
I hope someone else can help you with your hotmail issue.
so nobody knows anything about this?
they can figure out how to get the bleu led to switch on and off, but nobody can make a tweak so hotmail gets synced properly?
I think it's because in the WinMob email app you can tell it to download emails from the last 3 days and anything older disappears automatically.
The Android email apps don't do this but you can set them to delete emails from the server so if you delete the email on your phone it will delete it from the server but you can't do it the other way round.
has anyone found a solution for this.
Starting to annoy me now as well
After updating to HTC froyo my mail app now deletes all previous messages in inbox when refreshing!! Anyone else had this problem??
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I was just looking for the same answer as you...flipping annoying as now it seems to purge my emails on my desire after the update once i've downloaded them on my home PC in Outlook. Never did this before the update and i've checked in the phone email settings how long to keep the mails in the inbox (set to 7 days at the mo) but it makes no difference. At least on WinMo you have a folder called outlook mail that keep them for a defined period.
I hope this can be fixed as i'm starting to not like the Android OS at all after being a WinMo user from day one.
It's just the simple things that let this OS down i think.
I have this prblem too.....any known fix???
You can try this.
"I was having the same issue,but have resolved it by changing my account settings from POP3 to IMAP."
Didn't work for me but who knows.
Experiencing the same here, after froyo update messages from my pop3 account seems to purge when deleted from server.
Needs a fix
Crap. I have the exact same problem. As soon as you download to your pc from the server the emails are gone. No solution yet? There is a workaround you can go to your native client (outlook) go to advanced setting and check "leave emails on server". Until this is fixed this is all we can do.
Here is a brief tutorial for Outlook 2003:
Under the Delivery section of the Advanced tab, Outlook 2003 lets you define how to handle downloaded and old emails on the mail server.
By default, Outlook 2003 downloads your emails from the server, and in effect deletes them from the server after successful downloads. Without needing access to the mail server itself, you can customize Outlook's email deletion behavior. Outlook 2003 gives you thee options.
Checking the Leave a copy of messages on the server checkbox instructs Outlook 2003 to leave a copy of your emails on the server indefinitely. You or your System Administrator will then need to delete the emails from the mail server itself.
Complementary options can refine how long, and under what conditions Outlook 2003 should leave a copy of your emails on the mail server; I have mine set to 30 days.
I have another workaround.
I forward emails to myself and the emails get stored in my SENT folder. Irritating, I know, but at least I have a copy of it on my phone.
same problem here
same problem here, sucks!!
Hope the fix it soon
Sorted problem on mine it was problem with server. I am on ntlworld.com and have to put "recent:" in front of username and now all ok.(not quotes)
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Went over to Modaco and installed a completely stock based rooted ROM. Still doing the exact same thing.