If someone could just clear few things for me i would gladly appreciate it and maybe users who have the same questions could use this thread maybe in the future to clear any problems or issues as well.
I was on firmware 1.26 before i rooted and flashed the latest ARHD rom. From what i gathered though my HBOOT is still the same. Not sure about radio but Hboot is still on 043. What are the benefits of changing to a newer HBOOT firstly please?
Also regarding flashing boot.img. i know that is the kernel. but my question is why not just make a kernel out of it? or is the way creating kernels different from say samsung phones? Any benefits in flashing that each time we update roms?
Kinda having bit battery drain on latest firmware as well. is that normal now on 1.28 firmware? thought that would be better with the latest batch instead of being on old firmware.
Why do we have to go through fastboot to do things and not just through cwm recovery and how comes no cwm manager app?
Instead of updating through OTA can we not just update through custom roms each time a new firmware gets released? And if not why go through the whole process of going back to stock just to do that then and then reflashing the custom rom again?
Those are few things that i would like clearing up please if possible. I am loving my phone and with research and by reading it is going through the whole process of learning again. But there are few things like i said i would need clearing up and if someone would be kind enough to answer as much as they can would be appreciated. Many thanks much appreciated in advance
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I keep hoping someone would clarify in existing threads, but I guess not; so here is yet another thread, albeit on a vague topic. It is very clear that we need the stock recovery to receive the OTA, but can anyone in the know please answer the following:
Do we need stock recovery to get the NOTICE of the update, or just to process? These are, of course, 2 very different things, and those of us sitting on a rooted stock incredible waiting for the update notice may never even see the OTA if we need to be stock recovery first.
In other words, I know we need to be stock recovery to install, but do we have to be stock recovery to learn that its ready?
jdmba said:
I keep hoping someone would clarify in existing threads, but I guess not; so here is yet another thread, albeit on a vague topic. It is very clear that we need the stock recovery to receive the OTA, but can anyone in the know please answer the following:
Do we need stock recovery to get the NOTICE of the update, or just to process? These are, of course, 2 very different things, and those of us sitting on a rooted stock incredible waiting for the update notice may never even see the OTA if we need to be stock recovery first.
In other words, I know we need to be stock recovery to install, but do we have to be stock recovery to learn that its ready?
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I honestly wish I could answer this question, it is a valid question, and I don't know. Would I like to know, yes. hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
I can however throw my two_cents in for FWIW.
If you are awaiting the 2.2OTA, as I am.
why wouldn't you get the stock recovery, as we know you NEED this for the OTA. as for your question, again I don't know, but why does it matter if you need this, then why wouldn't you do it.
I'd like to know, what hboot is needed,
I am on .79 hboot, s-off, stock recovery, stock radio, blah blah,
I have read you need .77 but I doubt it.
I doubt that Android itself will check the recovery image. The OTA notification should appear just fine even without the stock recovery. If you accept it with Clockwork, I don't know what would happen. Probably, everything except the radio would flash fine and you'd be left with 2.2 but missing some features.
http://imgur.com/EgzxWFI
I think this screenshot should have all of the relevant information. I would tried this sooner, but it was end of college, I got my first full time job, etc etc.
My main issue with this phone is that it does random "soft" resets where everything just comes down and it reboots to the lock screen. This is especially fun when I'm driving and using this as a GPS :laugh:. I'm pretty sure the kernel is involved somehow, but I honestly don't know.
I want to know:
1. What do you guys think would be the most efficient way for me to update both the ROM and Kernel?
2. Is there any way to do this without having to re-root?
3. Would I be better off just choosing a non-stock ROM in order to get to the latest version of the android OS more easily?
That's about it, pretty simple. Just some directions would be nice as I'm quite out of the loop. Thanks.
If you don't want to do the research or take the time to go through the trouble of reading through these forums, then the most efficient way will be to remain stock unrooted and update via the approved methods from your carrier and/or Samsung (OTA and/or Kies usually). All software versions from ICS on up (non international S3s are now officially on KitKat) have been covered extensively by now so I doubt anyone is going to entertain your direct request for information. There are many things you need to be aware of, such as but not limited to how the new bootloaders and KNOX, as well as how custom roms and kernels, are working together in the big picture of things.
NOTE: Regardless of which route you take, no one in this forum, including myself, is responsible should anything happen to your phone. Anything you do to your phone is at your own risk, including official updates from your carrier and Samsung.
xshadowinxbc said:
http://imgur.com/EgzxWFI
I think this screenshot should have all of the relevant information. I would tried this sooner, but it was end of college, I got my first full time job, etc etc.
My main issue with this phone is that it does random "soft" resets where everything just comes down and it reboots to the lock screen. This is especially fun when I'm driving and using this as a GPS :laugh:. I'm pretty sure the kernel is involved somehow, but I honestly don't know.
I want to know:
1. What do you guys think would be the most efficient way for me to update both the ROM and Kernel?
2. Is there any way to do this without having to re-root?
3. Would I be better off just choosing a non-stock ROM in order to get to the latest version of the android OS more easily?
That's about it, pretty simple. Just some directions would be nice as I'm quite out of the loop. Thanks.
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You can get all the info you need here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
As for having to re-root, you won't if you flash a custom ROM. Getting the OTA (or Kies) update will require a re-root which can be easily done with Towelroot.
As for the "most efficient", just follow the ROM's OP instructions to a T - it''s usually straight forward and easy to follow.
BWolf56 said:
You can get all the info you need here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
As for having to re-root, you won't if you flash a custom ROM. Getting the OTA (or Kies) update will require a re-root which can be easily done with Towelroot.
As for the "most efficient", just follow the ROM's OP instructions to a T - it''s usually straight forward and easy to follow.
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Thank you for the reply
Okay so basically the most (time) efficient way for me to update is to get some custom ROM. That's fine, all I need to work on my phone is a few programs nowadays. Namely Google maps and the phone (well and the browser). Is Kernel updating the same? What's one of the good kernels and roms these days for the purposes battery life?
The main reason I'm making this topic is I'm fine with just going out and following directions, but I'm updating from such an old version that I'm wondering if there are any "gotchas". Like I update it to this with my old kernel and the thing is suddenly bricked. That's really what I'm worried about.
xshadowinxbc said:
Thank you for the reply
Okay so basically the most (time) efficient way for me to update is to get some custom ROM. That's fine, all I need to work on my phone is a few programs nowadays. Namely Google maps and the phone (well and the browser). Is Kernel updating the same? What's one of the good kernels and roms these days for the purposes battery life?
The main reason I'm making this topic is I'm fine with just going out and following directions, but I'm updating from such an old version that I'm wondering if there are any "gotchas". Like I update it to this with my old kernel and the thing is suddenly bricked. That's really what I'm worried about.
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Kernel will be overwritten in the flashing process. All you gotta do is make sure you recovery is up to date if you go the custom ROM way.
We don't make suggestions as for what ROM/kernel to use to avoid flaming and it also comes down to user preference. Although, I do suggest starting to look at some custom ROMs (most of them come with their own kernel but can also flash another one). It will most likely come down to AOSP vs TW (stock) base.
The closest to a suggestion I can make is to look at the top threads in the Dev section, those are the most "popular" ROMs/kernels.
Alright, looking around at the various threads in the development section I see that most of them look pretty simple to install. Just download the zip, reboot into clockwork and install after doing some resets.
I notice that some of these require a new bootloader/modem, though... I haven't seen those terms when I last did this. What are the general installation instructions for those; the same as custom roms? Can they brick your device (assuming that I even pick the one for my device)? I'll probably just install something that doesn't need me to update the bootloader/modem to make things simple.
For the most part, if you've updated to 4.3 you will be able to flash any available roms. The catch is once on 4.3, you cannot downgrade your firmware.
Firmware is updated either by ota or flashing with Odin.
I went ahead and got the Slimkat because the instructions for it were pretty easy. There are some unpleasant changes about it that I would like some assistance on, but I suppose that would go in the dev thread to ask about those. Thanks for the info, it helped give me some confidence about just trying it out. Like I said a little iffy about some of the things but overall I like. At least it hasn't randomly crashed on me yet, and getting all of my apps back was as easy as having TitaniumBackup extract them from my Nandroid backup.
Hi there geniuses of XDA! (somewhat of a noob here)
Need some help. I want to update my VZW HTC One (m7) to the Android L version (I think its out now, maybe not though, if not 4.4.3). I currently have Android 4.2.2. I am rooted, unlocked, and S-Off. I am running ClockworkMod Recovery and have a nandroid backup in that, that I would like to maintain in case things go wrong. It is my understanding that if I were to switch to TWRP my backup would not work, so I would like to stay with CWM. So can anyone provide a suggestion of a good ROM to get that will bring me up to current version and will still work with CWM?
Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.
Steve
Also let me point out that I am still on Firmware 1.10.605.8. How do I get this updated? Looks like most of the current ROMs require later firmware. Basically I rooted last year, day one when I got the phone and have not updated anything since then. So I really need some help on getting current. Step by step instructions would be most helpful.
Thanks
lostnsound said:
Also let me point out that I am still on Firmware 1.10.605.8. How do I get this updated? Looks like most of the current ROMs require later firmware. Basically I rooted last year, day one when I got the phone and have not updated anything since then. So I really need some help on getting current. Step by step instructions would be most helpful.
Thanks
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See people's response in your other question thread. Furthermore, I would like to add that after you update your firmware from santod's thread - you will want to update to the latest ROM. We do not have L as you have requested. There is a preview floating around in the international forum, but it is not for daily use and not for VZW. I suggest - if you want stock to either use Santod's stock rom's as they are stock completely or Andybone's which are stock with minor tweaks. Outside of that there are stock based ROM's that have an abundance of tweaks - NuSense, Ecliptic, Viper, etc.
If you run into recovery issues (due to potentially outdated CWM) - I suggest trying Philz. It is CWM based but easier to use. You should be able to access your backup. You can also pull the backup off your phone and save it on a computer. It will be saved in clockworkmod/backups or something.
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See people's response in your other question thread. Furthermore, I would like to add that after you update your firmware from santod's thread - you will want to update to the latest ROM. We do not have L as you have requested. There is a preview floating around in the international forum, but it is not for daily use and not for VZW. I suggest - if you want stock to either use Santod's stock rom's as they are stock completely or Andybone's which are stock with minor tweaks. Outside of that there are stock based ROM's that have an abundance of tweaks - NuSense, Ecliptic, Viper, etc.
If you run into recovery issues (due to potentially outdated CWM) - I suggest trying Philz. It is CWM based but easier to use. You should be able to access your backup. You can also pull the backup off your phone and save it on a computer. It will be saved in clockworkmod/backups or something.
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Thanks for the assistance brymaster5000. This is all very helpful information.
lostnsound said:
Hi there geniuses of XDA! (somewhat of a noob here)
Need some help. I want to update my VZW HTC One (m7) to the Android L version (I think its out now, maybe not though, if not 4.4.3). I currently have Android 4.2.2. I am rooted, unlocked, and S-Off. I am running ClockworkMod Recovery and have a nandroid backup in that, that I would like to maintain in case things go wrong. It is my understanding that if I were to switch to TWRP my backup would not work, so I would like to stay with CWM. So can anyone provide a suggestion of a good ROM to get that will bring me up to current version and will still work with CWM?
Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.
Steve
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I would recommend Viper for sense 6 / 4.4.2, Santod's GPE 4.4.4 for gpe, or CM11 4.4.4 for a great aosp experience.
Just one thing to point out - if you move away from sense roms, you will lose some camera function. Only the sense camera(which only works on sense roms) really works well. If you go GPE or AOSP you will see a noticable drop in camera boot times, focus times and flash timing.
venturing into these waters again? I have an old T-Mobile Galaxy S3 that I'm basically trying to turn into a gaming phone, just to play games on for my niece. However this thing hasn't been updated in forever and some of these newer games won't run on the firmware I have installed currently. I'm sitting on Android 4.1.1, running an old version CMW recovery. I just want to update to perhaps KitKat so that the games will run. As it stands now, trying to install leaves certain apps hanging on installation or simply incompatible with my version of android. I've been reading various threads in this forums and I'm seeing things about needing certain recoveries to upgrade, so forth and so on so I wanted a little expertise knowledge before I tried anything.
Would I be ok just picking a KK Rom, doing the wipe routine, flash and be good to go? Or have things changed and more steps are necessary, or newer versions of recoveries and what not are needed? Really don't want to brick this S3 so any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I've found you need to update the recovery or you have install errors when trying to put a newer ROM on the phone. It might also be worth updating the modem even if you never use data or the phone features. So, yeah you kinda need to update everything or else you run into issues since a newer rom relies on features that might not exist in older firmware.
Thank you for the reply, my recovery was severally outdated and I wonder what took me so long to upgrade to TWRP. It's great. I was able to flash with no issues and glad I did.
So I'm rooted sitting on 5.1.1 and I have a backup. One of the main reasons for rooting was to enhance performance and cut the fat without loosing my S-Pen. That being said I've noticed my data speed steadily dropping over the months and I'm attributing that to the old radio firmware. I understand how to flash the firmware from odin but it is safe to flash the 6.0.1 PF3 radio over my 5.1.1 PA1. Could i also flash a Kernel that may help with performance or battery life. Is flashing portions of a full firmware safe in general. We all know the bad things that can happen when just doing these things without asking, and i'm not finding clear answers. Any help is greatly appreciated.
same boat almost
dam man I was just trying to hunt down some of the same answers hopefully someone can chime in here ... but I'm kinda looking at trying to go backwards and trying to find some clear answers about the fact that the note 4 does have dual radios and newer phones don't ... my question is looking at does the newer firmware turn off one of the modems to preserve battery ... the BPA1 moden really seems ****ty but I'm running stock rooted 5.1.1 i may be trying to reflash the modem itself first