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upcoming alternatives to galaxy nexus?

sorry if this isn't the right forum to post this, but wasn't sure where i could ask... my upgrade is due on verizon at the end of the year. i'll be replacing the original incredible, which was a great phone. i like the gnexus except for the size. i would really like something close to the size of the incredible.. does anyone know if there are other alternatives coming out soon from other brands that will be smaller then the gnexus and will be vanilla android? thanks

Try the HTC Rhyme...

Don't know of any vanilla android phones coming out soon. Most,if not all, have a manufacturer UI.
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rabaker07 said:
Try the HTC Rhyme...
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And flash AOSP.

the htc rhyme doesn't have 4g tho, and is it only available in purple? i saw that htc had 3 different colors on their site, but don't see them in the verizon store. i also wouldn't mind if it's a different ui, since i'm experienced in rooting phones, so as long as the phone has a good dev communtiy going, i'd be fine with it, since i'll prob stick cm in there.

anyone know what verizon phones will be announced at ces or mwc? will verizon get the galaxy S3?

iphone 4s
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zeke1988 said:
iphone 4s
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i have considered the 4S, but i'm worried about the limitations. things like not having poweramp (which is the best music player), swype, gapps integration, and 4g... i do really like the camera on the 4S tho, and the camera is one of my important deciding factors. how's the battery life now with the 4S? is it a lot better than the Gnex?

there are no stock android devices coming out anytime soon, so if your looking for something stock, your going to have to, i guess settle for the galaxy nexus in your case, or hope for an AOSP rom for a future device.

There are no 4g devices the size of the incredible.
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GNexus vs. S2?

Hi!
I just wanted your opinion of choosing between those two.
So I just sold my Sony Ericsson Arc S. It was a good phone, but since I'm addicted to my phone, and do everything possible with it(I hardly use computer anymore!), I decided to buy a dual-core phone!(Yeah, I'm always on the later era) Arc was way too slow.
Basically Nexus is 30€s cheaper than S2, but that's not a game changer.
I like the design of Nexus more. On the other hand S2 is more powerful. Nexus has bigger and better screen etc.
But one thing I appreciate the most, is the community. I've had a couple of Android phones before, and I've been pretty active here on Xda lately. I love flashing new roms and so on. S2 is the second most sold phone in the world, so I bet it has bigger community here, but quality over quantity.
Nexus has roms like MIUI and Cyanogenmod too. Also I see hundreds of roms in XDA. Anyway, I can't compare those two by looking at the roms they have, that's why I asked you guys.
It's such a hard decision... Please help!
BTW: I'm too cheap to buy S3 or ONE
And I'm European so I'd be only interested in the international version obviously! (No T-Mobile or Verizon etc...)
EDIT: I read that Nexus has more powerful chipset while S2 has better GPU? Is that correct?

I have both the nexus and the sgs2. And I'd say go with the nexus. The SGS2 is now my spare phone. Although specs wise the SGS2 other than screen resolution. On this note the nexus 720p screen can be the real deal breaker over the wvga screen on SGS2.
People can debate about specs all day but the Nexus is definitely way more fluid. Also you get all sorts of custom rooms and kernels to tweak the nexus to get that little bit more.
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If you like a phone with an appealing UI with vanilla android and is super easy to install and try out custom ROMs on, go with a Galaxy Nexus.
If you want a phone with an ugly UI, Samsung's ****ty firmware yada yada yada, go with an S2.
The Galaxy Nexus also has HD resolution, bigger and better screen there's a ton of support ready for you if you ever need help. Also, pair AOKP with Franciscofranco's kernel and you won't believe how fast this phone is.

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I have both the nexus and the sgs2. And I'd say go with the nexus. The SGS2 is now my spare phone. Although specs wise the SGS2 other than screen resolution. On this note the nexus 720p screen can be the real deal breaker over the wvga screen on SGS2.
People can debate about specs all day but the Nexus is definitely way more fluid. Also you get all sorts of custom rooms and kernels to tweak the nexus to get that little bit more.
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Thanks for answer!
I thought myself that while S2 may be a bit more powerful, it doesn't mean Nexus couldn't run all those nice games, it is anyway a dual-core phone.
What about the battery life?
So far I think I'll go for GNexus... It's more... exotic! and I really like the screen. I just need to be very sure about it, I have bought so many phones just to get disappointed at them after two months... Though these two are pretty high-end phones(for me anyway!)
Thank you too, Theshawty! It doesn't mean that while S2 has more roms, it's automatically better. Nexus has pretty cool roms as far as I know
And I'm pretty damn sure Google's support is more reliable than Sam's

The SGS2 has a worse screen, but a better performance because of it. The Nexus on the other hand, has double the pixels, but a worse performance. SGS2 will run games smoother, but it won't look as good as when the Nexus runs it. Performance vs Great screen.
Dev support is good on both ones, but Nexus will be much better long term compared to the SGS2.

ArmorD said:
Thank you too, Theshawty! It doesn't mean that while S2 has more roms, it's automatically better. Nexus has pretty cool roms as far as I know
And I'm pretty damn sure Google's support is more reliable than Sam's
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You're welcome! Yeah, the ROMs we have so far here are great, and they're starting to pile up to become even more since afterall, this phone has a "developer-flag".
Samsung's support is ****, in my opinion.

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If you like a phone with an appealing UI with vanilla android and is super easy to install and try out custom ROMs on, go with a Galaxy Nexus.
If you want a phone with an ugly UI, Samsung's ****ty firmware yada yada yada, go with an S2.
The Galaxy Nexus also has HD resolution, bigger and better screen there's a ton of support ready for you if you ever need help. Also, pair AOKP with Franciscofranco's kernel and you won't believe how fast this phone is.
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What a sad misconception. The S2 has AOSP roms just like the Nexus does. They have AOKP just like the nexus does, and they have awesome kernels as well.
What it really comes down to is screen size/resolution and size of the phone. Both will run ICS just fine.

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What a sad misconception. The S2 has AOSP roms just like the Nexus does. They have AOKP just like the nexus does, and they have awesome kernels as well.
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What I wrote first was basically if someone chooses to stay with the stock firmware and not use a custom ROM.

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What I wrote first was basically if someone chooses to stay with the stock firmware and not use a custom ROM.
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It would be true in that case, but he mentions community so one could be lead to believe that he will flash roms

Thanks to evrybody! I think I'll pick GNex... It's just such a hard choice... But it's a lil' bit cheaper and I really appreciate the bigger/better screen.
One thing that I wanna know the answer to, is, how long will Google support GNex? I reckon it'll get the next Android upgrade unless it's tablet-only, but what about after that? Time to move on?

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It would be true in that case, but he mentions community so one could be lead to believe that he will flash roms
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Ah, ok.

If you want a higher camera and you don't care about the os version or blah blah, go with S2
But I recommend you to get GNex! It's awesome!
Better screen quality, Stock Android OS, Will be upgradable to JellyBean, Lots of good roms, ...

[Q] Just about to buy GNexus or should I go for the HTC One X?

Hello All,
First of all allow me to apologise if this is in the incorrect thread, or has been asked before, however this question is time and date relevant.
My contract is up tomorrow (20/06/2012), and i have wanted the Galaxy nexus since it was released. However I am just looking around at phones in the UK, and am torn between the HTC One X and the GNexus.
What are peoples thoughts about the GNexus so far?
Is it still worth taking out a contract on it? (18 months).
I am not super bothered about the quad core, but I need the phone to last, my currect phone (X10 Mini Pro) lasted about 6 Months of the 24 before it became nearly unusable, and I couldn't afford to buy a new one, until now.
Thank you all in advanced,
Technicalevolution.

The Gnex will last you 18 months no problem, and it will have far superior dev support. I had the One X and it is a great phone, but it takes a lot to get it working the way i like. To get AOSP you still have to sacrifice some functionality and stability. The GNex will be first to updates, and more stable running modified firmware. The display is better on the One X, as is all the hardware really. That said, i still prefer the Nexus. I probably won't buy another non-nexus device.
just my .02$

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The Gnex will last you 18 months no problem, and it will have far superior dev support. I had the One X and it is a great phone, but it takes a lot to get it working the way i like. To get AOSP you still have to sacrifice some functionality and stability. The GNex will be first to updates, and more stable running modified firmware. The display is better on the One X, as is all the hardware really. That said, i still prefer the Nexus. I probably won't buy another non-nexus device.
just my .02$
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This quote above is exactly what I think also after having the htc evo lte for a week.

If you like no bloatware (ie: sense) Go with galaxy nexus, you will always have the latest android version and customization is a dream. And it is plenty fast, if you need something faster then a galaxy nexus then your crazy.
PURE GOOGLE FTW!!!

Some time ago I made the decision to buy only Nexus phones and I dont regret it, they are awesome.
Pros of the GNex:
-Better software
-Updates assured for the next Android versions
-Multitasking work much better than the One X
-Removable battery
Cons:
-Bad camera
-Older hardware (but I dont think it matters that much, since it can easily run everything you can find on Android Market)

If you know are posting on xda then you probably like messing with your phones. So that leaves you with two options. Get the gnex in black or get the gnex in white.
End of story
let us know what you go with
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Thanks to all of you that have replied so far,
Yes i have meddled with my phone before, so that's a good point.
I think you have all convinced me firmly to go for the galaxy nexus then.
Thanks,
technicalevolution.

kevinjgray88 said:
If you know are posting on xda then you probably like messing with your phones. So that leaves you with two options. Get the gnex in black or get the gnex in white.
End of story
let us know what you go with
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Lmao this is actually the best answer I've seen. I am choosing white. Order mine on Thursday with overnight shipping
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Don't care about hardware. The nexus hardware is obviously good enough to have ics running extremely smooth. What you should take into consideration.
- Camera.
- Whether or not you want sense
- Do you hate having outdated software?
- Build quality
- which device looks better to you ( You don't want to pull out your phone and see something that you think is ugly every time.)
Those questions should give you a better answer on which you should get
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I've had my Nexus for the last 6 mo's and probably will have it for the next 18 months! I cant imagine going back to some UI and carrier bloat. Dooo iiiit!

I just love the simplistic look on the Nexus when I hide the status and nav bar. The screen just blends in with the bezel so well when using a black theme and wallpaper. The only thing I dislike about the phone is the camera, but it's good enough to satisfy most people.

Why not just play with both at a store? Get a feel for them.
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I did try to have a play on both, but for the amount of phone stores near me, none of them have a galaxy nexus on display, shambles if you ask me.
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Had the same dilemma, stock ics > sense 4 to me, and nexus runs ics so well! Also, I really don't want to wait for key lime pie to come out before I get jellybean, you know? Go with the nexus, it's fantastic!

Since this is a very common question there is a sticky dedicated to it. Please continue the conversation in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X?

So I know im ought to get some bias asking this question on here but I am wondering whether I should get the Galaxy Nexus or HTC One X.
The HTC One X obviously has the better hardware (screen, processor, BT 4.0, battery, etc) but the thing the Galaxy Nexus has is the stock Android experience and priority OS updates. But im guessing that the HTC One X will have unofficial ports of stock Android.
So I guess the question is, should I go for the Galaxy Nexus that is Google and will get stock Android that is customized for it or should I get the HTC One X that has better hardward but will have to get unofficial ports of Android to it.
Edit: Accidentally posted this in general. Can mods please help me move this into QA. Sorry

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801

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That thread is about specs. If I was looking for specs then I would've gotten the HTC One X already.

I'd go for the Nexus if you can get past the pentile display. I'm a very picky person, and while I do notice it from time to time I can definitely live with it. I'm not too sure why anyone needs a quad core phone to e-mail or text someone. I do like to game, but most don't work well on touch screens, so the high end games that actually tax the thing I don't really enjoy playing. Give me Block Breaker HD over any of the high end titles anyday.
My main reason for going with the Nexus is timely updates and lots of customization. I mean, I'm using Jellybean and it's not even released yet. Coming from HTC and Sony this is definitely a nice change.

Well, if you go for a Nexus you might have to get it used if you don't order soon considering the current ban... which might make your decision a bit easier.

Oxirane said:
Well, if you go for a Nexus you might have to get it used if you don't order soon considering the current ban... which might make your decision a bit easier.
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op is in canada

www.androidcentral.com
www.phonedog.com
www.gsmarena.com
Just few of the websites with professionally done reviews. You should read their reviews and make your decision since everyone has different tastes.
Oh and here's the obligatory "this question has been asked 10239487 times already" comment.

For everlasting support, go Nexus, anything else, go One X.
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I have the One X now, have had the Gnex before and, am getting it again from the play store.
The One X is a very nice phone design-wise. I like the design better than the Gnex. It has HTC sense which is not that bad this time and runs very well with ICS, this is one of the reasons I got it. The One X doesn't have the software buttons like the Gnex so your getting all the use of the 4.8 inch screen, making it seem bigger. You can't remove the battery but from my experience, the battery will last all day once you charge and discharge it a few times. The One X has LTE and can fall back on HSPA+ (the faster version).
The Gnex is a pure Google phone and with Jellybean running on it that makes the choice easy for me. I'm a fan of pure Google. The Gnex is also nice design-wise with it's black screen with no logos on the front and, slim curved shape. From the videos I've watched, the Gnex running 4.1 (jellybean) runs just as good, if not better than the One X. The Gnex only has HSPA + and it seems like the slower version form my experience.
Overall I like the Gnex but, it just depends what you looking for. You can't go wrong with either. When I get mine I'll be able to really compare them side by
side. In my opinion, what ruins the carrier phones is how they put the skins on them without giving people a choice to run pure Google. A One X or S3 running pure Android 4.1 would be super phones.

HTC One X vs Galaxy Nexus
Jelly Bean

Took my Jellied out Nexus to the store the other day.
Honestly thought my Nexus was faster than the AT&T One X.

I had both (AT&T One X BTW). And although the HOX has better hardware no doubt, I like the GNEX better overall and heres why
*Its a Nexus... Updates galore!!!
*On screen buttons are more attractive to me (beats the lazy menu button the HOX uses on un-updated apps)
*Jellybean..... OMFG Jellybean!!!! I used to hate that the GNEX had a weak-ish processor but project butter made me shove my tounge down my throat. It is smoother than the HOX with ICS overall and its gonna take a while till an official update for HTC, when they smear Sense all over it. I am more than pleased with the performance
*No S-ON/S-OFF woes like HTC phones
* $10 unlimited data :-D
What i miss from the One X. The camera quality, the smooth curved feel of the screen when you glide your finger to the edge, the soft touch texture of the body, LTE speeds
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Get the Nexus. Fastboot oem unlock FTW.

I bought a HTC ONE X and used if for 14 days before selling it for a Galaxy Nexus. While the HOX was a beautiful looking phone and had a better screen and faster processor I just couldn't adjust to sense ui after coming from stock android on my nexus s previously. Apart from this the set i had was suffering from overheating issues...don't know if its with all quad core processors but that phone really cant handle the hot weather here in Pakistan (46 Degrees Celcius today) and was more often than not running at 50 to 56 degrees with wifi on or when charging. This overheating was also causing weird screen issues which i researched and found was common in the HOX. Overall I dont regret getting rid of the one x and getting a galaxy nexus

I liked the One X, I had three of them. All had different hardware faults. The battery drained too fast for my liking as well. Amazing idle time, soon as you use it... drains like crazy. Even worse than the Nexus does, if you can believe such a thing.
New Nexus is a seemingly perfect phone. The Note would have been if it didn't have Touchwizz on it.

I had a htc one x but also had loads of issues with quality control. This only seems to affect the quad core one x so I think you will be fine if you get the XL. I prefer sense to stock myself . But jellybean on the nexus looks amazing and I'm getting mine this week

one x
I have them both, and love them

To be perfectly honest, you're a fool if you get a non-Nexus Android phone.
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Am I really the only one who thinks the One X is Fugly?! The One S is far better easier on my eyes. I have two friends who own both versions and it's just an ugly ass device and lags stupid. The Nexus is so gorgeous. Get it. Who the hell really needs a quad core anyways..?! Unless MAYBE if you're running it on a tablet..
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There is already a thread for comparing devices to the Galaxy Nexus here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642801
Please continue your discussion there
Thanks
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[Q] Should I sell my S4 and get an HTC One?

I am thinking about selling my S4 and getting the HTC One off eBay. I would like some people's thoughts on the One.
Do you like it? What don't you like about it? How is the cell signal reception? How do you think it compares to the S4? How is the ROM community on here?

Gonna get a lot of bias here. What's making you contemplate switching? And the community here is pretty damn good. Very helpful and haven't seen any douchey arguments for this phones forums at all. Signal is great as it has been for me with Verizon for years. The biggest difference I'd say is the feel of the phone physically and the low light pictures. The screen IMO looks better on the S4 for lack of depth but the one is more vibrant. Other then those its just touch wiz or sense in differences for the most part. Unless you're like me and stick to aosp type builds. Then it really is about the same.
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zeropally said:
Gonna get a lot of bias here. What's making you contemplate switching? And the community here is pretty damn good. Very helpful and haven't seen any douchey arguments for this phones forums at all. Signal is great as it has been for me with Verizon for years. The biggest difference I'd say is the feel of the phone physically and the low light pictures. The screen IMO looks better on the S4 for lack of depth but the one is more vibrant. Other then those its just touch wiz or sense in differences for the most part. Unless you're like me and stick to aosp type builds. Then it really is about the same.
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I am thinking about switching because of a number of reasons. I had 3 HTC phones before the S4, so it could be that I am just used to the way HTC does things. For 1, I hate touchwiz. I have CM10.2 on my S4 now. But the camera on CM10.2 is not as good as it is on a touchwiz ROM. From what I have heard (maybe I am wrong) but dev's have been able to port the camera from the GPE ROM's into the AOSP ROMS, is that right? Sense is so much better than touchwiz. I can live just fine with a Sense ROM, but it took me less than a couple of weeks with the S4 before I had CM on it. 2, the signal reception isn't the best. Saturday night, my gf was getting group messages just fine on her iphone 5, while I wasn't getting shii. 3, the phone is fragile. I dropped it this weekend and the glass cracked. I know the same can happen to the One, but the One feels a lot more solid in hand. 4, I hate the blue-ish tint on samsung phone screens. I miss the vibrant white's of a HTC phone.

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I am thinking about switching because of a number of reasons. I had 3 HTC phones before the S4, so it could be that I am just used to the way HTC does things. For 1, I hate touchwiz. I have CM10.2 on my S4 now. But the camera on CM10.2 is not as good as it is on a touchwiz ROM. From what I have heard (maybe I am wrong) but dev's have been able to port the camera from the GPE ROM's into the AOSP ROMS, is that right? Sense is so much better than touchwiz. I can live just fine with a Sense ROM, but it took me less than a couple of weeks with the S4 before I had CM on it. 2, the signal reception isn't the best. Saturday night, my gf was getting group messages just fine on her iphone 5, while I wasn't getting shii. 3, the phone is fragile. I dropped it this weekend and the glass cracked. I know the same can happen to the One, but the One feels a lot more solid in hand. 4, I hate the blue-ish tint on samsung phone screens. I miss the vibrant white's of a HTC phone.
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I had the s4 for a week and ended up switching to the htc one. They are both good phones but the huge thing for me was the software. Touchwiz to me just seemed bogged down with extras I didn't need and to me sense has all the software features I want and is a bit more attractive imo. Plus the added bonuses like the good external speakers with beats audio and the metal body of the phone are really good in my opinion. The only thing I wish the htc one had was a bit larger/wider screen like that of the s4 and the button layout is a bit better on the s4 imo but I'm glad I switched! As far as your concerns go I've always had a really good experience with signal on this phone and the development is pretty good, I feel there could be more eventually but for now there's definitely a good amount of good work being done!

Who would want an S-4 when they could have a one.
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Richard_Danger said:
I am thinking about switching because of a number of reasons. I had 3 HTC phones before the S4, so it could be that I am just used to the way HTC does things. For 1, I hate touchwiz. I have CM10.2 on my S4 now. But the camera on CM10.2 is not as good as it is on a touchwiz ROM. From what I have heard (maybe I am wrong) but dev's have been able to port the camera from the GPE ROM's into the AOSP ROMS, is that right? Sense is so much better than touchwiz. I can live just fine with a Sense ROM, but it took me less than a couple of weeks with the S4 before I had CM on it. 2, the signal reception isn't the best. Saturday night, my gf was getting group messages just fine on her iphone 5, while I wasn't getting shii. 3, the phone is fragile. I dropped it this weekend and the glass cracked. I know the same can happen to the One, but the One feels a lot more solid in hand. 4, I hate the blue-ish tint on samsung phone screens. I miss the vibrant white's of a HTC phone.
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I have SG Note 2 and HTC one. HTC one is the one I use the most just because I love the way it feels, sense is much more responsive and signal is definitely better. I even compared both: I ran speed test on both, htc always has a couple of mb more of the download speed and a good FEW of upload speed, but keep in mind i'm comparing Note 2, not the s4.
Don't expect ONE's camera to be very good because it's simply not. My friend's S4 shoots much better pictures. When it comes to community and Devs, oh my goodness, we have bad*ss devs! We have some 4.3 android with sense 5.5 and I must say devs done very good job (i'm running EclipticOne by Hawk and it is smooth, fast and battery friendly). Just my 2 cents
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ivanov13 said:
I have SG Note 2 and HTC one. HTC one is the one I use the most just because I love the way it feels, sense is much more responsive and signal is definitely better. I even compared both: I ran speed test on both, htc always has a couple of mb more of the download speed and a good FEW of upload speed, but keep in mind i'm comparing Note 2, not the s4.
Don't expect ONE's camera to be very good because it's simply not. My friend's S4 shoots much better pictures. When it comes to community and Devs, oh my goodness, we have bad*ss devs! We have some 4.3 android with sense 5.5 and I must say devs done very good job (i'm running EclipticOne by Hawk and it is smooth, fast and battery friendly). Just my 2 cents
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Not doubting you've checked the camera but I would suggest using an app called camera awesome to really compare them. The app makes controlling the quality much better. And will improve on both to be honest. But I also have to disagree a bit as the stock cameras both have their strong suits. The one takes better low light and the s4 has better HDR. But they both balance out with that app. But the feel of the one is unbeatable to me. It was what made the decision ultimately
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Just do it you won't regret it.

Owning both phones currently, and as much as I did enjoy my stay on the SG3 and SG4, the build quality of the HTC One compared to Samsung is ridiculous, and we have root AND S-OFF, meaning we are set, this is a great community, and I look forward to what 4.3 brings.

After being on the gs3 then gs4 since release switching to HTC one has been some getting use to. I keep hitting volume to power the screen and keep looking for the home button. Overall the HTC one feels to be of much better build. Both the gs4 and HTC one I had rooted and all that fun stuff asap. If I had to choose right now I would stick with the HTC one but the gs4 has much more dev support from what I can tell so far.(been on HTC one less than a week) both phones are on 4.4 gummy and are pretty much on par with each other so far.
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I had a thread just like this trust me I don't regret the switch one second. Only hard thing to get used to is having a phone that feels like its worth 200 + dollars such a nice change! Any questions about how I like my one better feel free to ask, I just got my one a week ago
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After being on the gs3 then gs4 since release switching to HTC one has been some getting use to. I keep hitting volume to power the screen and keep looking for the home button. Overall the HTC one feels to be of much better build. Both the gs4 and HTC one I had rooted and all that fun stuff asap. If I had to choose right now I would stick with the HTC one but the gs4 has much more dev support from what I can tell so far.(been on HTC one less than a week) both phones are on 4.4 gummy and are pretty much on par with each other so far.
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SG4 started out pretty hot, then the bootloader couldnt be cracked so it slowed down a bit,
with htc one and being s-off we dont ever have to worry about losing root.
on the sg4 all you can do it root, no more flashing roms (unless they break open bootloader)
so this phone will actually see much more development due in large thanks to Sonic for this clip and beaups for the software unlock

Really the only downfall of the one is the camera. There is a great possibly of getting the purple haze in low light as many of us have. If you get it then it's simply just call HTC abd listen to their lies of software issues abd will be fixed with the 4.3 update which is a lie as gsm version of the one has 4.3 and it still hasn't fixed it. It's hardware issue and tell them you want it fixed and they will allow you to send in the phone. If you wonder what the purple haze is here is an example.
Other than that it's a great phone and we may not have as many roms as our gsm counterparts but the ones we have are top quality. Don't think you will be disappointed with the one.
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More questions for HTC One users
I am saving up to replace my S4 and the HTC One is my current target. My current questions are:
1. Can a future update block S-Off(or block downgrading to a version that can S-Off)?
2. Is the phone stable while on S-Off? Can you receive updates from HTC while s-off?
3. Any major setbacks to running custom roms right now(ie stability)?
4. Is it possible to factory reset the phone to how HTC would ship it? Can we turn S-off back to S-On?
5. Finally the clincher - I live in a low signal area and custom roms always seem to hold signal worse than official roms. How's data reliability on custom roms?
Sorry to bother with sooo many questions, but since I suspect most of you are big htc one advocates, I'm sure someone would enjoy answering. I really want this phone and I'm aware of its limitations (like camera resolution) and other things reviews have noted. I'm just checking to see if there's any setback that might blindside me after I put my money down.
Thanks!

Noremacam said:
I am saving up to replace my S4 and the HTC One is my current target. My current questions are:
1. Can a future update block S-Off(or block downgrading to a version that can S-Off)?
2. Is the phone stable while on S-Off? Can you receive updates from HTC while s-off?
3. Any major setbacks to running custom roms right now(ie stability)?
4. Is it possible to factory reset the phone to how HTC would ship it? Can we turn S-off back to S-On?
5. Finally the clincher - I live in a low signal area and custom roms always seem to hold signal worse than official roms. How's data reliability on custom roms?
Sorry to bother with sooo many questions, but since I suspect most of you are big htc one advocates, I'm sure someone would enjoy answering. I really want this phone and I'm aware of its limitations (like camera resolution) and other things reviews have noted. I'm just checking to see if there's any setback that might blindside me after I put my money down.
Thanks!
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1. Yes. More than likely the 4.3 update will block the s-off method we currently use. Although, if you s-off when you get the device, you don't have to worry about updates.
2. Just as stable as untampered, and you can receive updates, but its better to just use ROMs our devs put out
3. Most of the custom ROMs available now are rock solid. I'm currently running KitKat with Sense. Not a hiccup
4. Yes, you can go back to s-on
5. I've not had any issues with data. The only ones that might affect data would be AOSP ROMs as the RIL is reverse engineered and isn't quite as good as the closed-source one we get officially in sense. However, it's not too noticeable from what I understand.
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andybones said:
SG4 started out pretty hot, then the bootloader couldnt be cracked so it slowed down a bit,
with htc one and being s-off we dont ever have to worry about losing root.
on the sg4 all you can do it root, no more flashing roms (unless they break open bootloader)
so this phone will actually see much more development due in large thanks to Sonic for this clip and beaups for the software unlock
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On the rooting the gs4 are you talking about the latest or most updated ones? Luckily I haven't ran into this issue as mine was rooted rom'd from long ago.
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I owned both, ended up selling my S4 because owning 2 phones was dumb. Both are great phones and have different pros. I kept the One because of the hardware and feels better in the hand. I do miss the camera on the S4, and the 5 inch screen is nice, just not when your on the go... Development was slowing down on the S4 because of the OTA updates and growing here because we achieved s-off. Not sure if this helps...

tylerlawhon said:
1. Yes. More than likely the 4.3 update will block the s-off method we currently use. Although, if you s-off when you get the device, you don't have to worry about updates.
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Thanks. Does the htc one prohibit downgrading to earlier firmware?

Richard_Danger said:
I am thinking about selling my S4 and getting the HTC One off eBay. I would like some people's thoughts on the One.
Do you like it? What don't you like about it? How is the cell signal reception? How do you think it compares to the S4? How is the ROM community on here?
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ROM Community is awesome sauce on this phone.
As far as should you sell your S4 for the One... Yes. Wait! No. Okay yes. Wait... N-yes
In all seriousness the phone is amazing. There's only one thing I don't like about it and that's no SD card slot. That sucks. Signal reception is going to be entirely dependent on where you are just like every other phone on the planet. Since you have VZW you should get the same signal strength. I haven't noticed much difference either way from my old S3 or iPhone. I can't speak to the quality of the S4 as I've never owned one but it was a marginal upgrade from the S3 if I were to judge based off of reviews I've read. I love the device. Hands down the best android device I've ever owned.
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Noremacam said:
Thanks. Does the htc one prohibit downgrading to earlier firmware?
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Yep. Sure do. Once on .15 you can't go back down to .10. I had the same question awhile back and one of the devs informed me that's the case.

UPDATE: So I ordered a HTC One off of Ebay Tuesday night. It should be coming in tomorrow. Luckily for me, the previous owner had already rooted and s-off'ed (idk if thats a word) the phone. I am excited. It's crazy seeing how many people have done the same thing I am doing now. Thanks for all the replies.