So, I was just wondering if someone could explain this 'S-ON' and 'S-OFF' thing.
I think I have seen that you want S-OFF due to warranty and stuff, but I don't really understand what it is?
Thanks
DomCowell said:
So, I was just wondering if someone could explain this 'S-ON' and 'S-OFF' thing.
I think I have seen that you want S-OFF due to warranty and stuff, but I don't really understand what it is?
Thanks
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I'm quite a noob to but it has something to do with WHAT you can acces. S-ON means you can only install roms and that's it.
S-OFF you can install new radio's and tweak the device a lot more!
Since we are both noobs I think that's all we need to know ;-)! S-OFF won't be possible through HTCDEV, you need a community build unlocker for that!
H-Cim said:
I'm quite a noob to but it has something to do with WHAT you can acces. S-ON means you can only install roms and that's it.
S-OFF you can install new radio's and tweak the device a lot more!
Since we are both noobs I think that's all we need to know ;-)! S-OFF won't be possible through HTCDEV, you need a community build unlocker for that!
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Hi bro... U r bang on target.... Absolutely correct. Jst added with s off u also can flash bootloader. Bt i dt agree to fact u r noob u did answered very well.
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Hello everyone! I own a desire hd and it's stock (soft. ver. 1.72.405.3), I must say I am ok with it that way but still I'm thinking of rooting it..
but I don't know much about that.. though I like it stock I understand there are some things it can do more...
first of all: what do I lose by rooting? the htc sense? the htc themes/ interface? the dolby surround and srs software?? see, I don't really want to return to the basic android and I like the custom htc interface..do I lose it??
second I heard about the official upgrade to 2.3 so I would be better to wait for that first?
by rooting I am mainly looking for overclocking..god, that's so cool!
so if someone can answer me the questions above, it would be great! also, if I decide to root which is the best way to do that, what programs do you recommend, is there a desire hd based ROM, and what should I do for overclocking?
thanks a lot!
First of all, your current software version cannot be rooted, you need to downgrade to an earlier version to root. You can root without installing custom roms, but most of the custom roms come with sence and all the htc additions
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Hi,
and welcome to XDA.
The software version of your Desire HD (DHD for short) is not possible to root. In order to overclock you will need to downgrade to an earlier version (1.32).
Once downgraded rooting becomes easy. The process of rooting will not break anything, including the stuff you've mentioned. However, there is an additional layer of protection that HTC employ to prevent you from bricking you DHD. This beast is known as S-ON (Security On). In order to make persistent changes to your DHD, such as custom HTC Sense ROM's you will need to disable this, achieving S-OFF. This will break Over The Air (OTA) Updates from HTC or your network/carrier.
Again this is pretty straight forward.
If you wish to flash a new Radio you will need to have ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF.
The guides posted below are not created by me, they are very good and information in them will overlap slightly.
To downgrade, read this guide carefully --> Downgrading to 1.32 - Guide By jkoljo
To root & apply ENG S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Rooting & Applying ENG S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
To apply Radio S-OFF, read this guide carefully --> Applying Radio S-OFF - Guide By jkoljo
Once you have done all the basics we can talk you through the rest.
Let us know how you get on.
hey! thank you both
so I want to know, beside this protection that has to be disabled, the phone will act normal, right? no performance loss?
and also, if i block the update, i won't be able to update to gingerbread?
are you satisfied with the phone rooted compared to the stock?
and i'm planning to move to UK, will I be able to use it in other carrier such as o2 since I've got mine from orange RO?
Thank you
Tib!
You are correct, your DHD will not behave any differently than if the protections were enabled.
The Official Gingerbread update from HTC is still quite a while away, and all of the custom ROM Dev's will include any changes into their ROM's. So don't feel like you will miss out if you root & apply S-OFF.
Yes, I am very happy with it rooted. I can over/under clock my CPU when the situation demands, block in-app ads system wide, perform full backups of my entire DHD. These are merely scratching the surface of what root access can enable.
As for you moving to the UK, once you perform Radio S-OFF using the guide and tool described above, your DHD will not be SIM Locked to a particular network/carrier.
sounds great then.. but: it will erase all the data on the phone, right? i will lose everything
secondly, I am concerned about the rest of the process.. i will root it but after that? I'm sure all the cool stuff isn't free but i don't have access to payed apps on market, just for free ones (this is what is available for Romania at the time..) so i'm afraid i will get stuck..
thanks
Downgrading will erase all data on your DHD.
Some, not all the cool stuff are paid app's.
For instance SetCPU, the app nearly everyone uses to overclock their handsets is a paid app. But for XDA members its free. You can find it here on XDA-Devs, its all above board and legit. Other apps such as Titanium Backup have a paid app version on the Market, but also allow you buy a donate key from within the app.
I wouldn't worry about getting stuck, there are hundreds of users here all willing to help if you do.
EDIT: You can find SetCPU --> HERE, obviously if you like it and can afford to, donate to the author.
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
tibrocks said:
my friend, I understand there is a lot of work so I don't expect anything for free... of course I will donate (the app to download is at the end of the first thread, right?) but until now, the only access I had was to the free apps on market.
now.. I want to risk and root my phone.. (for me is an important decision) ) can I do this myself?
first I will follow the three steps you told me above and then I will look for help)
thanks
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You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
ok, but please make clear: by rooting will i have a real froyo or future gingerbread or just sort of system that only acts like one of the two above?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
by rooting it allows you to change the stock ROM (HTC sense) on your phone to another custom ROM either based on Froyo or Gingerbread
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
) well i'm afraid too..
well, have you done rooting your dhd?
dr.m0x said:
You can do it yourself and it's perfectly safe provided you take the time to read the guides and follow the instructions carefully.
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Sent from my pimped up Desire HD in association with Rcmix HD v3.3.
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And It's hard to Brick the Desire HD... And for your Gingerbread Concern, The Chef's here are aware of that.. Just be patience and they will Produce ROMS with Gingerbread on it.... Enjoy Rooting....
xuldigiorgio said:
hi everyone,
i've just bought a DHD a month ago and my software version is 1.32.707.5
I have read quite a lot of thread regarding rooting the DHD but somehow i'm afraid that i brick my DHD if i try to root it because it seems that it is not as easy as running android on my HD2. My question is, is there anything i need to check before i start rooting?
Cheers
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Your on the 1.32 software so routing will be a piece of cake.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
hi , ive been reading the guides and am really keen to root my dhd, was just about to start the process when i read that it wouldn't work with my branded dhd (vodaphone, australia) is this true? was hoping to go from 1.32.178.5 to 1.72.405.3 R2 is this possible using the stock to leedroid guide?
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
xuldigiorgio said:
anyone, please tell me the difference with branded and unbranded DHD? and how to check them out?
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as far as I know, the branded ones show the logo of the company (ex Vodafone, T-mobile.. etc)
The whole thing is really confusing to me. I do have ENG S-OFF, and already flashed a Radio and some Roms. Is ENG S-OFF better than Radio S-OFF? Or what is the difference to it?
I read some threads about it and now I am really confused..
Kick me!
hi
well i'm a newbee here, just got my hands on htc wildfire a couple of week back, after reading a series of threads, here's my question :
1. should i really need to root my device?
2. how can i find my hboot version?
3. if anyone of you senior players have a full rooting video, pls snd me the link.
Thanks
hey its me again..
just found out the specs of my device :
hboot 1.01.0002
microp 0622
radio 3.35.20.10
now the new question :
can i root with this ver of hboot???
What phone do you have and also what version are you running??
gingerbread or froyo??
You don't *need* to root. All rooting does is give you privileges to do things to your phone that you otherwise can't do, like install custom roms & other apps that have extended "root-only" features. You will most likely enjoy your phone more if it's rooted. You will also get more help if you post your question in the Wildfire section.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
I use my phone about 2x more since I rooted it. Rooting the phone gives you access to customize the phone more to your liking. I use the HTC Incredible with CM and I am still looking for different customizations. Overall, I would root the phone if given the ability.
Agreed!
1st. go to Wildfire dedicated section
2nd. Root is not a must but will give you more flexibilities and extra functions of your phone. Consider like having 150% of your phone.
sublimaze said:
You don't *need* to root. All rooting does is give you privileges to do things to your phone that you otherwise can't do, like install custom roms & other apps that have extended "root-only" features. You will most likely enjoy your phone more if it's rooted. You will also get more help if you post your question in the Wildfire section.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
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+1. If you like to tinker around with your phone - root it.
If you want it just be a phone - don't worry about it.
Only way to make the Wildfire and Wildfire S rootable is to use the XTC clip.
Thankx guys for all your suggestions, but i tried rooting it with unevoked, but after wards its says, that your firmware is too new to be rooted,
I use : HTC Wildfire , froyo
hboot 1.01.0002
microp 0622
radio 3.35.20.10
please guys help me out, i need to get 150% control over my cell
Thankx again...
You're in the wrong forum, this is for the Wildfire S...
Exactly, maybe you could find answers in the Wildfire section and also here
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
People say this beta version is working for Wildfire.
But be careful, read and ask questions on them IRC channel.
Good luck with rooting
I need to root my phone (Wildfire S) (Android 2.3.3)
NB : my S-ON
how can I get S-OFF ??
please tell me in details what should I do to S-OFF & root it ??
Buy XTC Clip.
What he says above me ^^^^
Sorry but what is S-off and S-on?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e from somewhere in Pluto.
PLEASE, can the moderator of our forum delete this post and the tons of others asking how to root and S-OFF the Wildfire S?
This question has been answered a ton of times and it's a pity for the forum to get full of junk posts like that!
I second that.
is it posible
Hi
I have wildfire S with android 2.3.3 and HBOOT menu 0.90.0000 S-ON
I want to ask is there a way to gain S-OFF and root the phone somehow
i am trying with revolutionary but mi HBOOt menu is lower and i dont know is there a way to upadete it to 1.01.0001
people say that the S-OFF is gain with XTC-Clip but dont know if there place where i can buy it
Please tell me a way
Oh come on!!!!! Checkevery thread before even thinking of posting!!!!
you guys make me wanna shoot a bullet in someone's head!!!!
androidsupporter said:
Sorry but what is S-off and S-on?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e from somewhere in Pluto.
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I think S-on means that the nand is locked, soff means its unlocked
Sent from VercettiM's HTC Wildfire S.
+1 DELETE!
eng Mido said:
I need to root my phone (Wildfire S)
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We all do.
You might have better luck if you search the forums before posting questions that have already been answered.
OMFG.
Do people even read the other threads before starting a new one?
IMHO this thread is useless and should be deleted.
People should first SEARCH and then ASK.
XDA already has enough threads about this matter.
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eng Mido said:
I need to root my phone (Wildfire S) (Android 2.3.3)
NB : my S-ON
how can I get S-OFF ??
please tell me in details what should I do to S-OFF & root it ??
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Have you at least tried to read the other threads/topics?
There are LOTS of people that need to root their WFS.
In order to root you need to S-OFF (turn off security in laymans terms) your phone that is something only possible (at least until now) with a hardware device called "XTC Clip".
If you Google "XTC Clip" you will find lots of info on this subject, stores selling them, etc.
Rule of thumb, first search (really take some time reading) and then ask if no other person has already posed the same question.
What you want is what most of the XDA community WFS owners want.
S-ON = Very difficult to root
S-OFF = Easy to root
(these aren't actually the meanings. But it's a simple explanation.)
hello,
is there someone who can help me rooting my wildire s?
I'm a complete noobie when it comes to that and I don't wanna break it
grtz
ps it's also not s-off (I guess)
Probably your best bet would be to actually search through the forum. If you even bothered to take a look at the stickie, you would of seen a few threads. You first need to unlock the device. The only possible way is to use an XTC Clip. Next, you want to root the device, so please look here.
Again, for all the new users, please, look at the stickie on the first page!!!
I've read about the xtc-clip. Honestly I think it's a waste of money. I was curious if there's a way to do it without the xtc-clip. because the problem only seems to exist on the european phones :s
I think I'll just wait for more news
grtz
Currently, there is no other way of unlocking the device without the XTC Clip.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using XDA App
Hi guys,
I have a Galaxy S and its very easy to install custom ROM's on it but.
A friend of mine has One X and wants 4.1/4.2 with sense
I rooted it but he has a weird CID, how important is the CID not to brick the device?
he has HBOOT 1.12 and from what i know he need a higher version for JB sense. The upgrade i read that is very risky.
Can someone who has patients tell me all the things i need to be carefull if i want, or if i can, to install ca custom ROM with sense+ so i wint brick it.
Before flaming me to search, i did but I'm not confident enough to do it and i cant brick anotherones phone.
Thank you
2dy said:
Hi guys,
I have a Galaxy S and its very easy to install custom ROM's on it but.
A friend of mine has One X and wants 4.1/4.2 with sense
I rooted it but he has a weird CID, how important is the CID not to brick the device?
he has HBOOT 1.12 and from what i know he need a higher version for JB sense. The upgrade i read that is very risky.
Can someone who has patients tell me all the things i need to be carefull if i want, or if i can, to install ca custom ROM with sense+ so i wint brick it.
Before flaming me to search, i did but I'm not confident enough to do it and i cant brick anotherones phone.
Thank you
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Go
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957376
and find your answer whether your CID is compatible with JB roms or not? If your CID doesn't match with the list then you can't upgrade your HBOOT and please keep in mind that this is developer section please ask your queries in Q&A or general section from next time.
Thak you for the answer
Sorry for that, i don't use the forum for posting that much only for info. Please someone move it to the apropriate section.
The CID is not on the list, its H3G_004
So the only way I can upgrade to JB is to wait for official release?
2dy said:
Thak you for the answer
Sorry for that, i don't use the forum for posting that much only for info. Please someone move it to the apropriate section.
The CID is not on the list, its H3G_004
So the only way I can upgrade to JB is to wait for official release?
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Yes, that's the only way
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Yes of course wait for official release as HOX doesn't have S-OFF.